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  1. Lesta Nediam LNC2016-06-04 1100 +nationalparksign
  2. https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LestaNediamHQ/posts/7CgFoUQi1so
  3. https://pastebin.com/XcsNV59R
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  7. +nationalparksign __ [Uh - so this turned into a ramble - a repetition of ideas you are already familiar with. But since I wrote it - I'll send it anyway!]
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  11. Although I have not had a chance to read any other threads from that person - from the interaction I did read - my first impression was you could have picked up a *"shadow"* (a "lie system shadow").
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  15. A "shadow" meaning someone who is keeping an eye on your posts [even if casually] and when the opportunity avails itself will waste your time and derail any productive threads you may have.
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  19. _"There are many worthwhile conspiracies - but please trust me - the 'ISS' has nothing to do with them."_
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  23. Everyone except for Terran and yourself keep missing the point: what is happening on a daily basis is the *intentional* withholding of "sufficient proof". That is the common denominator between *all* lie system events and claims. Especially news events but that is dismissed, ignored and "forgiven" because of the so-called "24-hour news cycle". (How convenient - who coined that term?!)
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  27. But that's why the "ISS" is so important - *because it is not subject to the "24-hour news cycle" and so there should by now exist sufficient proof for it*.
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  31. It is not that events or claims are necessarily fake/fabricated - it is that we cannot know with certainty from where we sit in the audience! *We have no right to believe what we're invited to believe!*
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  35. Withholding sufficient proof forces us to trust the "source" (the story teller) - which in turn causes us to believe/accept *everything* we are told (if we trust the story teller - we believe all of the stories).
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  39. If a person believes just one news story that lacks sufficient proof - *that person will believe them all*. They sure will.
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  43. What that person will doubt - however - are only the trivial details. They will accept a story may be exaggerated, embellished or contain incorrect details - but they cannot doubt it happened in the first place.
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  51. When we talk about the "ISS" the opposition will always try to get us to assert that the "ISS" is fake. Then their job is easy. All they need us to do is state a negative position. But they become rendered useless when we don't do that and instead press them to explain/justify why it is they are certain there is a real and manned "ISS".
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  55. (I would say that's why the Samyfox69 brought up the hoverboard video. To get you to call it fake - or at least state an opinion about it. Then you have been distracted with something else and your time wasted.)
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  59. We are not making claims - *we are disputing and rejecting them*. We are curious as to why anyone would accept - _in the first place_ - extravagant claims with such dubious "evidence"!
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  63. We need to relentlessly identify and point out the lack of sufficient proof ("what is it we need to know/see in order to justify a belief in an event/claim - and why aren't we seeing it?!") and then ask those who seem to believe it - why?!
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  67. (Though - that is why I will call something BS - not to assert a position but to initiate a conversation. I want those who believe something without justification to realise they are not justified *and are thus vulnerable to the machinations and manipulations of liars and exploiters*.)
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  71. What is the simplest thing that would prove this is real? Why haven't we seen it?!
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  75. If I were aboard the "ISS" I would take an object and spin it in the air and film it for tens of minutes. *I would find it fascinating!* And I would share it with friends and family.
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  79. I would do all kinds of things like that. Who wouldn't?
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  83. There are old "ISS" videos where you see alleged crew doing dozens - hundreds - of interesting "experiments" such as flying paper planes, floating magnets and so forth. These are fascinating - but each clip doesn't go for more than 10 to 30 seconds. Where is the fascinating experiments that go for five minutes [without a cut/edit/glitch/etc.]?
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  87. If I were aboard the "ISS" - I'd be doing that. If I were "NASA/ESA" I would have a library of video showing such things - with the original footage.
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  91. If it's real - then how p!ssed must those "astronauts" feel to be used in this way!
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  95. So - the withholding of sufficient proof - it must be a *POLICY.* It must be a policy that we are never permitted to see what we need to see to justify a belief.
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  99. It must be important for our farmers that we remain wholly under the influence of their trust. That we must use our imagination to fill in the blanks and make things real. That we must end up convincing ourselves of events and claims (whether real or fake - *though as genuine skeptics our position must always be neutral* if there is a lack of sufficient proof!).
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  103. >>>>> Withholding sufficient proof must be a *policy* like "no swearing on children's television" or no "adult themes before 10pm" etc. Withholding sufficient proof must be a "farming best practice". <<<<<
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  107. If we can prove there is this "policy" (albeit unwritten/undeclared to us - we'll never be able to point it to others in a book) then more progress can be made with everything else.
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  111. I'll end with a deduced insight about our farmers: If there really is a "policy" to withhold sufficient proof *as a strategy* to farm and exploit us then it *must be an oral tradition*.
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  115. (Hence we can never point this out to people in a physical sense - we must find a way to get others to realise it for themselves.)
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  119. _Anyway! You already know all of this!_
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  122. __________________________________________
  123. Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's posts, comments, videos and discussions:
  124. https://pastebin.com/Bfr5RMSg
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  126. Here is Lesta Nediam's Google Plus posts (i.e., blog) - this is where Lesta is most active:
  127. https://plus.google.com/+LestaNediamHQ
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  129. Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's video uploads:
  130. https://pastebin.com/WV42jUb1
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  132. Here is Lesta Nediam's YouTube channel - for videos about the lie system:
  133. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3DalBOEZ6RqSyHk8_mGV7w
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