Randy Credico Interviews Roger Stone (03/28/2017) excerpt

Supplemental document for: "Theory that Roger Stone's go-between for Wikileaks was Randy Credico", link: https://wakelet.com/wake/2d352ae9-febe-44a1-a7bb-51674a2e4bf5

Excerpts from "Live on the Fly" with Randy Credico, broadcast date March 28, 2017. First excerpt from 1:36-5:18. Second excerpt is from 37:47-41:47.

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First excerpt:

CREDICO
So, let me begin...you know, I was watching these herings over the last week, and it's just been getting so crazy, you got the Democrats, you got the Republicans, you got the deep state, you know, potential dictators...it's just like, we're not getting anything out of this. Of any substance. You've got three people being called, by Adam Schiff, and it's Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia. I mean, you get more talk about Russia, on CNN now, on CNN and on MSNBC, than you do on RT [Russia Today]. It's all Russia.

So, one thing I want to clear up. Roger Stone, who is going to be on this show, on the second half, along with William Binney of the NSA, Roger Stone, uh, who I've known a long time, and a lot of people get upset when he's on this show, but he's a great guest, he's a showman, uh, and he's a poltiical trickster, and, so, the latest is, he's involved, he's in the crosshairs of Adam Schiff, and John McCain, and that is because he supposedly had this conversation with this person who was _supposedly_ a Russian hacker, who, I don't believe is one, by the name of Guccifer...Guccifer, who supposedly gave stuff to Julian Assange. And then a couple of weeks later, Roger Stone says that "John Podesta is going to be in the barrel," his time in the barrel is coming, and then he says at some Young Republicans For Freedom, that "I have a connection with Julian Assange." That, "I have a backchannel." Well, he keeps changing. Now, you know, I get calls from people, I got one from Howie in the Bronx yesterday, that I am the guy between Julian Assange and Roger Stone. I don't think anybody is. I don't think anybody is in between Julian Assange and Roger Stone. I think it's a, it's just Roger Stone being a showman here.

Now, I know Julian Assange, I had him on the show _one time_. That was August 25th or 26th. _One time_. That's the only conversation I've ever had, with Julian Assange. That's it. And then, sometime in September, my good friend Barry Crimmins, who I've known for about thirty years, thirty five years. In 1986, in September of '86, I was in London, with Barry Crimmins. And he just so happened to be there again in late September. Thirty years later. For a week, at the Leicester Square Comedy Club. So, a friend of mine who also knows Barry, says "Why don't we go?" And he paid for the ticket. And we went there, paid for the room...by the way, the guy didn't show up. He just paid for my trip there. And, so I spent three days with Barry Crimmins. I also got a letter from Bertold Reimers, the program director- or, the general manager here, asking me to drop it off at the embassy, where Julian Assange is, now, for two thousand three hundred and three days, can you believe it? And so, that's what I did on my last day there I dropped it off at the embassy. So I've never had any communication with Julian Assange, other than dropping it off at the embassy, trying to get him back on the show for the last six seven months...so I don't know who the backchannel, I don't think there is a backchannel. I guess I could be a backchannel for _anyone_...who wants to get Julian Assange on. "Can you get him on? Credico had him on. Let's go to him." Alright.

Second excerpt:

CREDICO
And then later on, you speak, and you say, that you had a backchannel to Wikileaks-

STONE
Yeah, I mean, look-

CREDICO
That conflates- That's a very vague term-

STONE
-Miami Herald-

CREDICO
-that's a _vague term_, isn't it?

STONE
I've been very honest about this.

CREDICO
That's a very vague term, a backchannel, you could say-

STONE
Well-

CREDICO
You could say-

STONE
I have described it various ways on the record. In a speech to a large number of Trump supporters, I described it as a backchannel. I think in another interview, I might have said "intermediary", in a third interview, I said "a mutual friend".

CREDICO
Right.

STONE
They're all true. They're all consistent. And what I learned from this person - and don't blame me if I have better sources than the mainstream media - was very simply this: that Assange had a substantial trove of information on Hillary Clinton, and he would drop it in October.

CREDICO
He said that, though, right? Didn't he say-

[cross talk]

STONE
And he'd already said that on the record-

CREDICO
-to put her in prison, right?

STONE
-elsewhere.

CREDICO
He said that he had something-

STONE
-on the record, elsewhere.

CREDICO
He said that he had something to put her in prison. So there was a lot of stuff that pre-dated this connection-

STONE
Exactly. So, this allegation of any co-ordination with Wikileaks is false. Now, people can believe what they want, but let's go back to the charge. Stone colluded with Wikileaks and Wikileaks is the Russians, therefore this is Russian collusion. I'm sorry, none of that holds water. I have no co-ordiation nor knowledge...or understanding of the scope of what Wikileaks had...I think they exposed the deep state. I do not think they work for the Russians. It's funny, all my liberal and progressive friends loved them when they were leaking on George W. Bush...

CREDICO
Right. And everything that he's put out there has not been challenged. Everything is genuine-

STONE
And I must tell you, Randy, this entire Russian meme, which is very clearly based on a campaign press release of Hillary Clinton...I think on January 20, when the New York Times reports in their print edition headline, "Wiretapped Data Utilized in Probe of Trump Associates", there it is. So. And it names three people, Paul Manafort, myself, and someone named Carter Page, who I don't know, and it is clear then, that my civil liberties have been violated. I don't care what you think about my politics, nobody's phone calls to their wife, and their children, and their grandchildren, business associates, or with reporters, should be monitored without probable cause of some crime. And they will find none. There are no Russian contacts, or any other Russian associations within any of my records, because I have none-

CREDICO
Alright-

STONE
-that I know of, and I know of none. This is a head fake.

CREDICO
Getting back to this deal with Schiff, basically vilifying Julian Assange, vilifying you, then tying the two of you together...now, when you go out and say, "I have a backchannel," you have a hundred reporters that you know. Two hundred reporters. If some reporter says to you, "Look, I think he's going to come out with some crazy stuff soon," would that be consistent with being a backchannel?

STONE
First of all, Guccifer 2.0 was giving interviews to _many_ reporters.

CREDICO
Right.

STONE
Are they also accused of collusion? That's number one, and number two-

CREDICO
So Guccifer could be your so-called backchannel, if in fact he was even involved with Wikileaks?

STONE
No, because I only had one communication with-

CREDICO
Oh, I see. Okay. Alright.

STONE
I have made it public. Look, the whole thing is a ruse. A design to distract from the crimes of Bill and Hillary, and the Podesta brothers.

CREDICO
Right.