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  1.  
  2. Can you check twitter for me, see how Tommy's getting on?
  3.  
  4. AW
  5. no
  6.  
  7. JS
  8. Matthew I have to be honest I'm disappointed by Tommy
  9.  
  10. MW
  11. How come Smithy
  12.  
  13. JS
  14. This morning has shown the white people are finally ready to fight back, and Tommy isn't showing them the support I believe he should
  15.  
  16. MW
  17. Yeh I see where you're coming from, Tommy goes about things in the right way though
  18.  
  19. AW
  20. by doing what?
  21. he does nothing
  22.  
  23. MW
  24. When did you last organise a protest of 5k people
  25.  
  26. JS
  27. Listen, let's get a van, nail bomb a Costa, get this civil war rolling
  28.  
  29. AW
  30. what did the protest achieve?
  31. smithy what time you want start tomorrow?
  32. painting that is
  33.  
  34. MW
  35. Spread the message
  36.  
  37. AW
  38. what message?
  39.  
  40. MW
  41. So people wake up and do something
  42.  
  43. AW
  44. do what?
  45.  
  46. MW
  47. Like our mate this morning
  48.  
  49. AW
  50. dumbass mfer
  51.  
  52. JS
  53. JE SUIS TOMMY
  54.  
  55. MW
  56. Adam
  57. What do you think of the imam of peace?
  58.  
  59. AW
  60. the what/
  61.  
  62. JS
  63. Smh...
  64.  
  65. MW
  66. Ffs
  67. Why are you happy to see the country blown up?
  68.  
  69. AW
  70. please quote me
  71.  
  72. MW
  73. Every day I see you say something where you sympathise with these terrorists
  74.  
  75. JS
  76. Well your countrymen are dying and all you can do is cry racism when someone speaks up
  77.  
  78. AW
  79. please quote me
  80.  
  81. MW
  82. Exactly I've had enough of it Smithy
  83. He's got nothing to say for himself
  84.  
  85. AW
  86. you're making up false accusation
  87. unless you can prove what you're saying i wont be replying to any of your nonsense
  88.  
  89. MW
  90. Says it all for me
  91. Just bury your head
  92.  
  93. AW
  94. pretty much what i expected, because tommy says nothing of substance and that apparently says it all for you too
  95.  
  96. JS
  97. What do you believe he should be saying
  98.  
  99. MW
  100. Tommy would give you a smack
  101.  
  102. JS
  103. It's a simple issue that requires a simple response, just no one's willing to go through with it
  104.  
  105. AW
  106. not for me to say what he should be saying
  107.  
  108. JS
  109. So what would your stance be to your 300k followers who are in fear just going about their day
  110.  
  111. AW
  112. i honestly hope this is all one elaborate troll
  113.  
  114. JS
  115. So just ignore it and hope it stops
  116.  
  117. AW
  118. well no-one has explained what tommy's actual suggestions are
  119. other than politicians need to be more outspoken about it
  120.  
  121. JS
  122. He's creating an environment where its safe to talk against certain groups
  123.  
  124. AW
  125. is he?
  126.  
  127. JS
  128. I don't know I haven't looked at a single tweet he's made
  129.  
  130. AW
  131. matt doesn't know either but he's read every tweets tommy's ever tweeted
  132. Seen by Jude Kuma at 17:38
  133.  
  134. MW
  135. Oh Adam
  136.  
  137. AW
  138. see, you keep bringing this back to me
  139.  
  140. MW
  141. I don't know what we're going to do with you
  142.  
  143. AW
  144. without saying anything of substance
  145.  
  146. JS
  147. So when the Muslims rise up, you won't be fighting with us
  148.  
  149. AW
  150. no, i wont
  151.  
  152. MW
  153. Why is it up to me to say what to do
  154.  
  155. AW
  156. well you keep saying tommy does this tommy does that
  157.  
  158. JS
  159. What's 10 foot long and wrapped around a cunt
  160.  
  161. AW
  162. matt, tell me, what is tommy's solution?
  163.  
  164. JS
  165. It's a turban
  166.  
  167. JG
  168. sounds like someone hasn't read his book
  169.  
  170. MW
  171. Close down the Saudi funded mosques
  172.  
  173. JS
  174. *terrorist training camps
  175.  
  176. MW
  177. Stop hate preachers from preaching in the UK
  178.  
  179. JS
  180. *all Muslims
  181.  
  182. MW
  183. Sort the Islamic schools out, there's undercover videos where they are told all sorts of shit
  184.  
  185. AW
  186. where are these videos ?
  187.  
  188. MW
  189. On the news I saw one
  190.  
  191. AW
  192. ah ok, of course you did
  193.  
  194. MW
  195. I'll find it when I'm not driving
  196.  
  197. JS
  198.  
  199. Secret Filming Reveals Hatred Been Taught At UK Muslim Schools
  200. An undercover reporter captures on camera the hate that's been taught to Muslim students at a faith school in Birmingham UK. It's disgusting to say the least.
  201. youtube.com
  202.  
  203. MW
  204. Think that's the one
  205.  
  206. JG
  207. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiaEWHR2K-w
  208. is that a different one?
  209.  
  210. JS
  211. Chances of us getting the same are very slim, there are many
  212.  
  213. MW
  214. Thanks guys
  215.  
  216. JG
  217. seeing as wootten puts his fingers in his ears and denies these things rather than using google, thought I'd do my bit
  218.  
  219. JS
  220. JE SUIS  JOE
  221.  
  222. AW
  223. yeah ok lets close 2000 schools
  224.  
  225. JG
  226. mattt never said that?
  227.  
  228. JS
  229. Well that's a start year
  230. I mean no that's silly Adam
  231.  
  232. AW
  233. sort them out? you cant just 'sort out' 2000 schools with 100000 pupils
  234.  
  235. JS
  236. Fucking try me
  237. I'll go columbine in every single one
  238.  
  239. MW
  240. K let it carry on, radicalise kids from the age of 4
  241. Good idea yes?
  242.  
  243. AW
  244. wont happen
  245.  
  246. JS
  247. The radicalisation?
  248.  
  249. AW
  250. yes
  251.  
  252. JS
  253. So no one's being radicalised?
  254. Thank goodness I was worried
  255.  
  256. AW
  257. ok then go in to more detail, how do you 'sort out' the schools that are apparently doing this?
  258.  
  259. JS
  260.  
  261.  
  262. JG
  263. only apparently? does the video evidence not count?
  264.  
  265. AW
  266. where does it say kill white men?
  267.  
  268. JG
  269. did you click the second video?
  270. not specifically white
  271. and I haven't watched it myself
  272. but it says kill him a lot
  273. so im enraged
  274.  
  275. AW
  276. ohhh the video with 700 views
  277.  
  278. JS
  279. Adam so it's only radicalisation if they teach to kill white people
  280.  
  281. AW
  282. with 0 comments
  283.  
  284. JS
  285. Tommy wouldn't stand for that kind of racism
  286.  
  287. AW
  288. that 100% isnt staged
  289.  
  290. JG
  291. Does 'Radical Patriotic Conservative.' sound like someone that would stage something to you
  292.  
  293. AW
  294. na probably not now you mention it
  295.  
  296. MW
  297. So Adam I think we've given enough evidence
  298.  
  299. JS
  300. See you keep saying we have no solutions bit we are at least trying what's your suggestion
  301.  
  302. MW
  303. I'd like to know what you think
  304.  
  305. AW
  306. as i said on saturday, tommy says simple things about complicated subjects that appeal to the simple minded.
  307.  
  308. MW
  309. So it's not a problem and we just carry on?
  310.  
  311. AW
  312. did i say that?
  313.  
  314. MW
  315. You didn't answer my question?
  316. Stop avoiding it
  317.  
  318. AW
  319. i don't think it's a big enough problem that requires something that could incite a race war, the same as the government
  320. negatives outweigh the benefits
  321.  
  322. JS
  323. Say that to the families of the victims
  324. Sorry your kids died but muh racism
  325.  
  326. AW
  327. i don't have to, the government already does that for me
  328.  
  329. JS
  330. I don't see why you value the lives of terrorists more then good normal people
  331.  
  332. AW
  333. quote
  334. me
  335.  
  336. JS
  337. i don't think it's a big enough problem that requires something that could incite a race war, the same as the government
  338.  
  339. MW
  340. But what happens when the Muslim population gets to 20/25 %, surely it's easier to tackle it now
  341.  
  342. AW
  343. doesn't mention the value of anyones life
  344.  
  345. JS
  346. Read: the people who have died don't matter enough to warrant a response
  347. How does that not mention the value of anyone's life
  348.  
  349. AW
  350. fuck me its going take a while to get to 20-25% from 4.4
  351. the worlds going to be a completely different place by the time that happens
  352.  
  353. JS
  354. Just keep changing the subject then
  355.  
  356. AW
  357. 9/11, 3000 people died, action: go to war in afghanistan! result 3500 allied solders dead
  358. result? absolutely fuck all
  359.  
  360. JS
  361. ... Sorry what are we talking about?
  362.  
  363. MW
  364. What's he on about
  365.  
  366. AW
  367. zzzzzzzzzzz
  368. you just think everything is so simple
  369.  
  370. JS
  371. No seriously now
  372. What does that have to do with anything
  373.  
  374. MW
  375. Where the fuck did that come from
  376.  
  377. JS
  378. No one has suggested invading anybody
  379. Even if those incidents were comparable which they are not
  380.  
  381. MW
  382. Quite the opposite Adam
  383.  
  384. AW
  385. america valued the 3000 people's lives enough to go to war with another country, as  a result they lost more lives than were originally lost in 9/11 and nothing changed as a result
  386.  
  387. MW
  388. Nah
  389.  
  390. AW
  391. negatives outweigh the benefits, time and time again
  392.  
  393. JS
  394. I can't think of a response to that
  395.  
  396. MW
  397. They got their oil
  398.  
  399. JS
  400. I honestly don't know what you're talking about
  401.  
  402. AW
  403. ok then, what would you say to the families of the bombing victims?
  404. WE GON GET DEM MUSLEMS?
  405.  
  406. MW
  407. I'd join them in asking why absolutely fuck all was done after the bomber was reported numerous times
  408.  
  409. JS
  410. Me personally I would offer my sympathy and support anybody with more influence than I who is trying to do something about it
  411. What would you say? Shit happens?
  412.  
  413. AW
  414. they did do something after being reported
  415. they investigated him, and found nothing
  416.  
  417. JS
  418. So clearly the current mode of operation isn't working
  419.  
  420. AW
  421. there's nothing yo ucan do to stop 3 people just deciding to hire a van and run in to people with knives
  422. sure, they may have been known about previously however thankfully in this country, you're innocent until proven guilty
  423.  
  424. MW
  425. How about if he wasn't radicalised in the first place?
  426.  
  427. JS
  428. So it's always been like that in this country? We've always had this volume of terrorist attacks?
  429.  
  430. AW
  431. we don;t live in a perfect word, and never will
  432.  
  433. MW
  434. If his didsbury mosque didn't host fucking hate preachers
  435.  
  436. AW
  437. everyone has access to the internet 😮
  438.  
  439. JS
  440. Adam how many Muslim terrorist attacks were there in England before world war 2
  441.  
  442. AW
  443. dumb people follow slightly less dumb people
  444. what does world war 2 have to do with anything
  445.  
  446. MW
  447. I think he's just using it as a point in time
  448.  
  449. AW
  450. oh ok, well there weren't any before the romans invaded either
  451.  
  452. JS
  453. It's in the period of prosperity following the second world war we started letting anyone in, look at the rates of terrorist attacks since that time
  454.  
  455. AW
  456. 14.3. After the war, immigration increased, but this did not have a marked effect on the size of the foreign born population between the 1951 and 1961 census, with the number only increasing by about 225,000.
  457. i think in comparison, we're doing OK
  458.  
  459. JS
  460. How many deaths is OK
  461.  
  462. AW
  463. less than previous years
  464.  
  465. JS
  466. So we're not doing OK this year then
  467.  
  468. AW
  469. no, we're not
  470. however my original statement said that compared to the 70s, 80s and 90s, we're doing ok
  471.  
  472. JS
  473. So we need to ensure that it improves in the years to come is what you're saying
  474. We're doing OK if there are less deaths than the previous years
  475.  
  476. AW
  477. yes, it needs to improve.
  478.  
  479. MW
  480. By doing nothing?
  481. You said you can't do anything about 3 men in a van
  482.  
  483. AW
  484. no, you cant
  485.  
  486. JG
  487. how come the numbers dropped in the past?
  488. did we do something about them, or did we just let them carry on
  489.  
  490. AW
  491. brb reading up on the troubles
  492. seems quite detailed and complicated
  493. Seen by Ben Ingram at 18:29
  494. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles feel free to join me
  495. The Troubles - Wikipedia
  496. The Troubles (Irish: Na Trioblóidí) was an ethno-nationalist[12][13][14][15] conflict in Northern Ireland during the late 20th century. Also known internationally as the Northern Ireland conflict,[16][17][18][19][20] it is sometimes described as a "guerrilla war" or "low-level war".[21][22][23] The…
  497. en.wikipedia.org
  498.  
  499. JS
  500. Very different situation
  501.  
  502. AW
  503. is it?
  504. i think joe was arguing otherwiese
  505.  
  506. JG
  507. I was just wondering why numbers dropped in the past
  508. was an actual question not an argument
  509.  
  510. AW
  511. not really because you knew that we didn't 'just let them carry on'
  512.  
  513. JG
  514. I didnt realise it was solely IRA
  515. I know specically that we dont surrender to the ira
  516.  
  517. JS
  518. Well said Joe
  519.  
  520. AW
  521. a lot of them were
  522.  
  523. JS
  524. That was specifically a political war, incomparable to religious extremism
  525.  
  526. AW
  527. so it had nothing to do with diferent types or christianity?
  528.  
  529. JG
  530. theres a lot over all, but the highest year on your last picture was 1980, which if I'm being blind isn't even mentioned there?
  531.  
  532. JS
  533. I thought it was to do with weather or not Ireland became independent
  534. I don't claim to be an expert on Irish history
  535.  
  536. AW
  537. i don't know what you're saying joe, sorry
  538.  
  539. JS
  540. Not an expert on why we're talking about it either
  541. Falklands war amiright
  542.  
  543. AW
  544. A key issue was the constitutional status of Northern Ireland. Unionists/loyalists, who are mostly Protestants and consider themselves British, want Northern Ireland to remain within the United Kingdom. Irish nationalists/republicans, who are mostly Catholics
  545. i'd consider religion to be involved
  546.  
  547. JG
  548. I was still just thinking this was general terrorim not just IRA
  549. 1980 on your first picture shows like 300 deaths in terrorist attacks
  550. then you said a lot of them were IRA
  551. then posted another picture that showed nothing for 1980
  552. or have I just not read properly because I'm on wow?
  553.  
  554. AW
  555. im just posting photos from the internet, i never specifically mention the ira doing something in 1980
  556. i said a lot of the terrorist attacks between 70s and 90s were to do with the IRA, which my second photo backs up
  557.  
  558. JG
  559. but when I questioned how they ended, you made a snide remark about me knowing we didn't just do nothing
  560. when I dont even know what the attacks are
  561.  
  562. AW
  563. learn history then
  564.  
  565. MW
  566. Adam shut the fuck up you lefty cunt
  567.  
  568. AW
  569. and that, is exactly what tommy robinsons 'silent' protests result in
  570.  
  571. MW
  572. Do you wanna go?
  573.  
  574. AW
  575. ive never stated that we should do nothing, simply that you shouldnt follow tommy robinson because anything he does results in nothing good
  576.  
  577. MW
  578. Everyone else is too scared to say anything
  579. Cus they get labelled racist etc
  580.  
  581. JS
  582. Yeah we're sick of being labelled you lib-tard
  583.  
  584. AW
  585. except they aren't, they do things the proper way (whether you agree with them or not) e.g. theresa may wants more powers to snoop on everyone's internet usage and communications
  586. through the government, who you elect or don't elect
  587. because you didn't vote
  588.  
  589. JS
  590. You think that has anything to do with stopping terrorism
  591.  
  592. AW
  593. i don't agree that stopping terrorism is it's primary objective
  594. but it is one of
  595. i'm not even for it, it's just an example of how to do things properly
  596.  
  597. JS
  598.  
  599. Jaden Smith Laughing for 10 Hours
  600. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
  601. youtube.com
  602. So a man walks up to another man and punches him in the face, your response is to jail the man who received the punch to protect him from the bad man who walks free
  603.  
  604. AW
  605. what?
  606.  
  607. JS
  608. You think the response should be to restrict the freedoms of the victims, and do nothing about the criminals
  609.  
  610. AW
  611. i said that I wasn't for it.
  612.  
  613. JS
  614. So you disagree, so can you understand that there might be better methods that the government aren't doing
  615.  
  616. AW
  617. people voted for the government if you want the government to do something different
  618. vote for someone else
  619.  
  620. JS
  621. I did
  622.  
  623. AW
  624. matt didn't
  625.  
  626. MW
  627. Oh yeh
  628.  
  629. JS
  630. So?
  631.  
  632. MW
  633. Cus they always do what they say
  634.  
  635. AW
  636. so tell me, if the government aren't doing what you expect them to do
  637. what are you going to do?
  638. something similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots ?
  639.  
  640. MW
  641. Hire a van
  642.  
  643. JS
  644. Nothing! I want better minds than mine to be able to discuss potential solutions without fear of being prosecuted for it
  645.  
  646. AW
  647. then write to your MP
  648.  
  649. JS
  650. Again?
  651.  
  652. AW
  653. they most probably are already discussing this, if you don't think that they are. question the person responsible for it.
  654.  
  655. JS
  656. I have trust me
  657.  
  658. AW
  659. well, as you haven't - https://www.writetothem.com/ will help you to do that
  660. WriteToThem
  661. WriteToThem is a website which provides an easy way to contact MPs, councillors and other elected representatives.
  662. writetothem.com
  663.  
  664. JS
  665. You're just reading what you want to aren't you
  666.  
  667. MW
  668. Just so their secretary can choose which template to send you back...? OK
  669.  
  670. AW
  671. when did you write to your MP?
  672. Seen by
  673. JG at 18:57
  674.  
  675. JS
  676. Hang on I'll get the email I did signed delivery
  677.  
  678. AW
  679. ok, cheers
  680. matt, you didn't answer my question. i'll repeat it for you, if the government aren't doing what you expect them to do, what are you going to do?
  681. well you did answer, but it wasn't an appropriate response im afraid
  682. that would have got you a F-
  683. an*
  684.  
  685. MW
  686. Get their attention with a protest like in Manchester
  687.  
  688. AW
  689. didn't work though did it
  690. what else are you going t odo
  691.  
  692. MW
  693. I don't know what you're getting at? It's clear there is a problem and I'm just highlighting it?
  694.  
  695. AW
  696. you're highlighting it in the same way breast cancer awareness adverts highlight breast cancer
  697. no-one is denying that teorrism is an issue, its just a lot more complicated to solve than you think it is
  698.  
  699. MW
  700. Sorry you know best
  701.  
  702. AW
  703. apparently so, yeah
  704.  
  705. MW
  706. So who wo
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