#zeronet logs

--- Log opened Fri Nov 08 15:46:02 2019
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15:46 < zeronet> Ahha
15:46 < ur_0x6a73> Hm?
15:46 < zeronet> Here we go
15:46 < ur_0x6a73> So you're @antifa, right?
15:46 < zeronet> I'm not antifa
15:46 < zeronet> I'm zeronet as you see
15:46 < ur_0x6a73> Oh, so that guy on the github issue was lying, right?
15:47 < zeronet> Maybe XD
15:47 < zeronet> What are you talking about?
15:48 < ur_0x6a73> Nevermind. So, what do you want to talk about?
15:48 < zeronet> About the license?
15:48 < zeronet> Yes!
15:48 < ur_0x6a73> Also, it'd be great to an unofficial channel. We don't want to litter people's logs or get banned here, right?
15:48 < zeronet> Which part is difficult to understand?
15:49 < ur_0x6a73> 1 - Why do think that software which is in public domain can't be relicensed to any other license?
15:49 < ur_0x6a73> 2 - Do you still claim that you own the Zeronet project as a whole?
15:49 < zeronet> Everyone should know it that ZeroNet violated other peoples licenses and copyright for years and now all license which shipped with ZeroNet souce code is terminated
15:50 < zeronet> I was banned and censored on GitHub because I reported this violations and discredited as well
15:50 < zeronet> The upgrade of the license to GPLv3 is INEVITABLE!
15:52 < zeronet> GPLv2 terminates all copyright permissions at the moment of violation, and
15:52 < zeronet> that TERMINATION IS PERMANENT!!!! You voting about something what you
15:52 < zeronet> don't have anymore! YOU HAVE LOST ALL COPYRIGHT IN THE ZERONET SOFTWARE! Everyone! Including me!
15:52 < ur_0x6a73> I agree that the Zeronet project did commit some license violations. However, since the license was terminated for several years now, it also terminates its statement about how it can be only relicensed to the next GPL license :>
15:53 < ur_0x6a73> Also, what do you mean by "Inevitable"? Also, why don't you just go to court if you believe that your copyright was violated?
15:53 < ur_0x6a73> Also, another question: Do you believe that Hello World can be copyrighted?
15:54 < zeronet> No, that can't be copyrighted bad example.
15:54 < ur_0x6a73> Then what about a short if statement?
15:54 < zeronet> GPLv2 terminates all copyright permissions at the moment of violation, and that TERMINATION IS PERMANENT!!!! You voting about something what you don't have anymore! YOU HAVE LOST ALL COPYRIGHT IN THE ZERONET SOFTWARE! Open Users are free to use GPL-2.0 code in combination with Apache-2.0 or even commercially licensed code. Use is not the issue. The
15:54 < zeronet> issue is distribution. If you want to distribute a combination of code using GPL and Apache-2.0, you’d need to do that as GPL-3.0 or GPL-3.0-or-later. What you are doing is a violation of the GPL-2.0 license.
15:55 < ur_0x6a73> It'd be great if you could stop copy-pasting stuff. Also, since we lost all copyright, you did so too. You've commited some code to the project when it was still GPLv2 licensed and no violations were detected, so your copyright is revoked too :)
15:56 < zeronet> This what I'm talking about
15:56 < ur_0x6a73> Also, did you even read what I said?
15:56 < ur_0x6a73> I agree with "GPLv2 terminates all copyright permissions at the moment of violation", but why do you believe that it doesn't terminate the relicensement statement?
15:57 < zeronet> since I was who found out the termination and I was who notified the repository I'm actually able to keep GPLv3+ license on the software which is compatible with all other licenses in the source code. The violated GPLv3 and AGPLv3 automatically REACTIVATES when you have a upgraded your repository to GPLv3!
15:58 < ur_0x6a73> Nope, there is no such thing as "reactivation" of a license. What if Zeronet suddenly lost all people able to push stuff into the repo? Would it mean that it's in some kind of "no man's land" license?
15:58 < ur_0x6a73> If I'm wrong, link to an appropriate legal document.
15:59 < zeronet> The thing is that the voting is about nonsense! @krixano (who don't know shit about licenses) first opened his own issue and than started a voting without infroming anybody about the reason of the voting
15:59 < zeronet> pretty shameful if you ask me
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15:59 < zeronet> You don't understand do you?
16:00 < zeronet> Not only that ZeroNet lost its license and copyright! But everyone who forked and distributed that software!
16:00 < zeronet> Everyone!
16:00 < ur_0x6a73> What do you think about avoiding the "argumentum ad hominem" thing for now? Let's first resolve the license stuff.
16:01 < zeronet> Every single contributor lost its license and copyright in ZeroNet! And this is PERMANENT!
16:01 < ur_0x6a73> Also, don't assume that a delay longer than 10 seconds means that I have nothing else to say :)
16:01 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: So, is it PERMEMANT or possible to REACTIVATE now?
16:02 < zeronet> IF you have a GPLv3 or GPLv3+ license in your repository than you are good to go and use distribute and sell the software!
16:02 < ur_0x6a73> so it's REACTIVABLE and not permament, right?
16:03 < zeronet> you don't need anybodys permission for the upgrade because everyone lost already all copyright and licenses in ZeroNet the faster you upgrade the faster you stop license violations and you are good to go and do whatever you want with the software!
16:03 < ur_0x6a73> What would happen if we waited for the license change for, let's say, ten years?
16:04 < zeronet> You want to know?
16:04 < zeronet> Millions in penalties!
16:04 < ur_0x6a73> Sure, that's what I'm here.
16:05 < zeronet> The more people receives a software which is violates other licenses the more penalties will need to pay for the legitimate copyright owners and the licensors!
16:05 < ur_0x6a73> Milions in penalties? Huh? None of the library owners have asked to remove their software from Zeronet yet, and I've already sent emails to them about this situation. None of them said "no".
16:05 < ur_0x6a73> You can sue them though, and that's what I'm waiting for.
16:05 < zeronet> They don't need to ask!
16:05 < zeronet> YOU NEED TO STOP DISTRIBUTING THE SOFTWARE
16:05 < ur_0x6a73> They have to take action though ;)
16:05 < ur_0x6a73> also
16:06 < zeronet> You have knowledge about the violation and so you can be held liable!
16:06 < ur_0x6a73> SAYING STUFF IN BOLD LETTERRS DOESNT MAKE YOU ANY BETTER
16:06 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: And? That's exactly what I'm waiting for.
16:07 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: BTW, creating new Github accounts and instantly forking or creating repos with "Zeronet" in them isn't especially wise, since I can track and automatically report them using a simple Haskell script runing on one of my servers.
16:08 < ur_0x6a73> And it seems like the Github Legal team isn't exactly on your side either ;)
16:08 < zeronet> I will not distribute the software under a license which violates other peoples copyright and licenses and I'm legally responsible for complying with all of them! And so YOU! I keep ZeroNet under GPLv3+ no matter what! The shady, misleading voting is a joke! Voting about something you don't have! Also as I said the voting doesnt infromed anyone
16:08 < zeronet> about the REASONS! Why? Because everyone want to hide the truth and for this even MISLEADING OTHER CONTRIBUTORS! What a shame!
16:11 < ur_0x6a73> We're not hiding the truth or blocking you for the sole reason of blocking your or "muh neonazis". If you would've tried to post without harassing other Github users, creating 20 different issues on the repo or just breaking Github's Terms of Service, you'd still be able to talk there on your old @antifa account. Try to learn some common sense and respect for other people, no matter what their
16:11 < ur_0x6a73> technical or political opinions are.
16:11 -!- Ivanq [b00ef3d6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.14.243.214] has joined #zeronet
16:11 < Ivanq> Hello to everyone
16:12 < ur_0x6a73> Hello.
16:12 < Ivanq> Has the spam finished already?
16:12 < Ivanq> It looks like I'm late to the party, lol
16:12 < ur_0x6a73> Not quite. Thankfully, we've managed to make into a discussion (for now)
16:13 < ur_0x6a73> Also, please read this: https://www.fsf.org/news/android-termination-upgrade-gplv3
16:13 < Ivanq> Psst, can you send me discussion logs somewhere?
16:13 < ur_0x6a73> Ivanq: Yep, I'll post them somewhere as soon as this problem ends.
16:14 < ur_0x6a73> Or maybe I'll just create a Haskell script for automatic upload of these logs (to pastebin or some FTP server)
16:14 < ur_0x6a73> ` Parties who violate the license have their rights restored provisionally as soon as they come back into compliance, and permanently if no copyright holders terminate those rights within sixty days of the last violation.`
16:15 < ur_0x6a73> The violations were commited years ago, so they still retain those rights.
16:15 < zeronet> this is from Gplv3
16:15 < ur_0x6a73> Nope, this is about upgrading from GPLv2 to GPLv3.
16:15 < Ivanq> @zeronet Are you the guy I hate?
16:15 < zeronet> imachug?
16:15 < ur_0x6a73> At least read the headline: " Android GPLv2 termination worries: one more reason to upgrade to GPLv3 "
16:15 < zeronet> X-P
16:16 < Ivanq> Hi @fukcyouintheass
16:16 < Ivanq> Did you mistype the name?
16:16 < zeronet> yes
16:16 < ur_0x6a73> Ivanq: Let's keep this a bit less violent for now.
16:16 < Ivanq> Sorry
16:16 < zeronet> ifuckyouintheassimachug is my username
16:16 < ur_0x6a73> Np.
16:16 < zeronet> :')
16:17 < Ivanq> It looks like all the big ZeroNet guys are on IRC... I should probably come here more often
16:17 < zeronet> :)
16:17 < ur_0x6a73> Not really, it seems like it's a bit dead now.
16:17 < Ivanq> I might have been wrong about someone though, I thought that @zeronet was nofish or someone
16:17 < zeronet> :o
16:17 < Ivanq> Anyways, it's nice to see megfault and valdikss here
16:17 < zeronet> :O
16:17 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: Hm?
16:17 < zeronet> yes but they are not active
16:18 < Ivanq> Well, many people run IRC clients in background 24/7 to save logs
16:18 < zeronet> you copied the text from GPLv3
16:19 < zeronet> GPLv2 termination is permanent!
16:19 < ur_0x6a73> That's right. Hopefully, IRCv3 will soon merge its CHATHISTORY extension.
16:19 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: Because... ?
16:19 < ur_0x6a73> We're going in circles right now.
16:19 < zeronet> What because?
16:19 < Ivanq> Well you told us to switch to GPLv3
16:19 < zeronet> You can't read what we talked before? Roll back
16:20 < Ivanq> And now you're saying that we copied text from GPLv3 and thus we can't switch
16:20 < Ivanq> Uh?
16:20 < ur_0x6a73> That's what I'm talking about. We're going in circles right now
16:20 < ur_0x6a73> Without a common conclusion.
16:20 < zeronet> Yes imachug because that is what you need to do! REQUIRED
16:20 < Ivanq> Oh, btw
16:20 < ur_0x6a73> BTW, I'm gonna email RMS today about this entire situation and ask for his opinion on this.
16:20 < Ivanq> You once told me that we can only switch from GPL to GPL
16:20 < Ivanq> right?
16:20 < zeronet> Not you! 0x6a73
16:21 < Ivanq> ur_0x6a73 filips has mailed GNU btw
16:21 < zeronet> That is very correct
16:21 < ur_0x6a73> AFK for a few minutes
16:21 < Ivanq> zeronet Can you prove this? I couldn't find any references.
16:22 < zeronet> I don't need to pove anything! It is in the terms of the license itself! You are not allowed to change it and can't be revoked the rights which already granted under GPL! If you get rid of the libraries and relicenses lets say MIT you violate the rights of every single person who has a copy of ZeroNet
16:23 < Ivanq> Oh, I got it
16:23 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: Actually, you have to prove it if you want your changes to be accepted. Moreover, even in court, you need to justify your claims. So it'd be better if you could do it right now.
16:23 < Ivanq> I might have used a wrong word...
16:23 < Ivanq> See, *of course* you can't change a license
16:23 < Ivanq> But you can *switch* to another license for *future* versions of the software
16:23 < zeronet> Everyone is obligated to comply with every license which included in the software
16:23 < Ivanq> So you don't revoke anyone's rights because old versions are still available under GPL
16:24 < zeronet> and so I personally (sho reported the license termination) are obligated to upgrade GPLv3
16:24 < ur_0x6a73> BTW, what you're talking about is relicensing without permission, in which case your statement is true.
16:24 < zeronet> whatever is + or not
16:24 < zeronet> everyone including you right in this moment committing an intentional license violation
16:24 < ur_0x6a73> However, you can relicense your code as many times you want from GPL to something else and back, at least according to the USA/EU's copyright/contract law.
16:25 < zeronet> Not my code!
16:25 < Ivanq> Sure
16:25 < Ivanq> !
16:25 < Ivanq> We'll remove your code
16:25 < ur_0x6a73> Not your code. That's why we can just remove it.
16:25 < zeronet> I have contributed to ZeroNet and I will not allow to license anything but GPL!
16:25 < Ivanq> Aw
16:25 < Ivanq> You've contributed to a part of ZeroNet
16:25 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: Do you want us to remove your code from Zeronet?
16:25 < Ivanq> You've added some code
16:25 < Ivanq> So we can remove that code as if you haven't contributed
16:25 < Ivanq> Your contributions = the code you added
16:25 < zeronet> Actually far as I see GPLv3+ got the most vote
16:26 < zeronet> You can remove my code
16:26 < Ivanq> zeronet The statistics are a bit counterintuitive
16:26 < zeronet> you can also change your license and get rid of those libraries
16:26 < ur_0x6a73> It's a multiple choice voting. If you take a look, most people have selected "GPLv3 + Lax"
16:26 < Ivanq> GPLv3+ includes people who voted for GPLv3+, GPLv3, GPLv3+ and Lax, GPLv3 and Lax and I don't care
16:26 < zeronet> but I'M NOT REQUIRED TO DO THE SAME!
16:26 < Ivanq> zeronet Sure, you'll be able to distribute old ZeroNet versions under GPLv2!
16:26 < Ivanq> zeronet Sure, you'll be able to distribute old ZeroNet versions under GPL!
16:27 < Ivanq> Aw, Kiwi IRC UI is a bit counterintuitive
16:27 < zeronet> Exactly!
16:27 < zeronet> You see?
16:27 < ur_0x6a73> Ivanq: that's why I'm using irssi :3
16:27 < zeronet> I'm able to distribute under GPL but not on GPLv2! This is why you have a problem!
16:27 < Ivanq> Wait...
16:27 < Ivanq> We *do* have a problem, and we know it
16:28 < ur_0x6a73> That's why we're solving it right now.
16:28 < zeronet> Know it because I informed you
16:28 < Ivanq> Sure
16:28 < Ivanq> And we're trying to solve it; namely, we're deciding what license to use for future versions
16:28 < Ivanq> See? What's the problem here?
16:28 < Ivanq> Why do you keep saying we *must* use GPLv3 for later versions?
16:28 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: Also, do you consider the old ZeroNet license to be GPLv2-only or GPLv2+?
16:29 < Ivanq> We can use whatever we want for later versions as long as we follow all licenses' terms and conditions
16:29 < ur_0x6a73> Asking just in case.
16:29 < zeronet> You can do whatever you want but the software I have I'm legally obligated to distribute under GPLv3! You got it? I can't be forced to get rid of any library and change anything
16:30 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: If you say that you can't be forced to get rid of any libraries, then why would we have to be forced to do so? ;)
16:30 < zeronet> This is where the real problem arise!
16:30 < zeronet> You can't just use any other license than GPL
16:30 < ur_0x6a73> Why?
16:30 < ur_0x6a73> Sure, you can relicense your repo to GPLv3 because the license permits you to do so.
16:30 < zeronet> because other people already have they copies on GPL!
16:30 < zeronet> You can't revoke those rights!
16:31 < ur_0x6a73> We're not revoking their rights to use the OLD versions of Zeronet.
16:31 < ur_0x6a73> They'll remain legally GPLv2 no matter what.
16:31 < zeronet> and because of the license termination everyone SHOULD be informed accordingly to upgrade to GPLv3 in they repositories!
16:31 < ur_0x6a73> And how are you supposed to do that?
16:31 < zeronet> No they NOT remain under GPLv2!
16:32 < ur_0x6a73> Some people's accounts are dead and therefore they'll remain GPLv2 forever,
16:32 < zeronet> They CANT
16:32 < zeronet> what you dont understand?
16:32 < ur_0x6a73> Actually, they CAN.
16:32 < zeronet> No they CAN'T!
16:32 < zeronet> Than everyone should stop distributing it!
16:33 < ur_0x6a73> Off-topic: Also, don't assume that you're some kind of arch-genius that knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING.
16:33 < zeronet> This is why there is no way to use any other license on ZeroNet than GPLv3+ (as most people voted on it already)
16:33 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: Can't you read? We've already explained to you that they didn't.
16:33 < zeronet> I don't know everything and I never claimed
16:33 < zeronet> but I did informed you that what you are doing is illegal!
16:33 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: Actually, just did so ;)
16:33 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: If it's illegal, then again, why don't you go to court?
16:35 < ur_0x6a73> After all, that's the purpose of courts - to solve conflicts between people.
16:36 < zeronet> Look
16:36 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: Also, why don't you sue Apache? They've included your code in their web server.
16:36 < zeronet> I want to deploy ZeroNet on hundreds of servers
16:36 < zeronet> you don't understand?
16:36 < zeronet> I can't do it because of this license problem!
16:37 < ur_0x6a73> So instead of peaceful discussion you're shouting at people and harassing them? Sure...
16:37 < zeronet> Well I actually do but can't link to zeronet.io to promote the software!
16:37 < zeronet> I'm able to distribute my version under GPLv3+
16:37 < ur_0x6a73> We don't care about your repo though.
16:37 < valdikss> -_-
16:37 < ur_0x6a73> valdikss: Oh, hey.
16:38 < zeronet> What peaceful solution?
16:38 < ur_0x6a73> Not solution, but discussion.
16:38 < zeronet> I was banned and attacked in the main repo because I reported this
16:38 < zeronet> that is a real shit if you ask me
16:38 < ur_0x6a73> You were banned for attacking people.
16:38 < zeronet> Bullshit
16:38 < ur_0x6a73> And we've reported you too.
16:39 < zeronet> I was reported the license termination and there was two issues open with more than 300 comments
16:39 < ur_0x6a73> Github Support didn't remove the main Zeronet repo while they did ban your old accounts.
16:39 < zeronet> where are they?
16:39 < zeronet> they are deleted
16:39 < zeronet> and @krixano opened a shady voting
16:39 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: They're on my HDD, as screenshots.
16:39 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: Why do you consider it "shady"?
16:39 < zeronet> he did not informed anyone about the reason of the voting
16:39 < zeronet> no links to the reports I sent
16:39 < zeronet> nothing
16:40 < zeronet> and how many options are there
16:40 < ur_0x6a73> `ZeroNet project has recently been informed of some license incompatibilities. Namely, we are using some Apache 2.0 and GPLv3 dependencies, whilst the current ZeroNet license is GPLv2. Thus, I would now ask the contributors to support GPLv3 switch.`
16:40 < zeronet> you fucking kidding me
16:40 < ur_0x6a73> He's informed about them.
16:40 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: What more options would you like to get included there? 20x copied "GPLv3+"?
16:40 < zeronet> Why he not linked the conversations with more than 300 comments?
16:40 < ur_0x6a73> Because they've been deleted by the Github team :>
16:40 < ur_0x6a73> for a lot of reasons.
16:40 < zeronet> Because he is a little piece of shit who want to mislead people
16:41 < zeronet> when the voting started they was not deleted!
16:41 < ur_0x6a73> If you believe it's wrong, go ahead and ask Github to recover them. They're still on their servers, as required by the EU law.
16:41 < zeronet> bad excuse
16:41 < ur_0x6a73> Bad excuse?
16:41 < zeronet> when the voting started they was not deleted!
16:41 < zeronet> but closed
16:41 < zeronet> hidden
16:41 < ur_0x6a73> And? They were in the issue tracker.
16:41 < ur_0x6a73> People aren't blind, you know.
16:41 < zeronet> hidden because its embarrassing!
16:42 < ur_0x6a73> Hidden because of you saying that people commiting to Zeronet are, as quoted: "Nationalist polish-hungarian neonazi scum"  :>
16:42 < ur_0x6a73> Which is forbidden by Github's terms of service.
16:42 < ur_0x6a73> https://help.github.com/en/github/site-policy/github-terms-of-service
16:42 < zeronet> the big ZeroNet what advertise itself "censorship-resistant" censoring people
16:43 < zeronet> and the voting options?`
16:43 < zeronet> What about the voting options?
16:43 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: It's censorship resistant because you can just fork the project and continue it as you see ift.
16:43 < ur_0x6a73> fit*
16:43 < zeronet> there is TWO times mentioned GPLv3+ and 6 times GPLv3-only
16:44 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: People can read, you know.
16:44 < zeronet> for that matter the very first person who voted was @krixano
16:44 < ur_0x6a73> Sole count of mentions of a word doesn't mean that they didn't get enough chances.
16:44 < zeronet> and he voted for GPLv3+...
16:44 < zeronet> sorry
16:44 < zeronet> GPLv3-only!!!!
16:44 < zeronet> He started the vote and he voted first
16:44 < ur_0x6a73> GPLv3-only + Lax, to be exact :>
16:44 < zeronet> absolute manipulation
16:45 < zeronet> misleading every single previous contributor
16:45 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: what kind of manipulation? did he remove other people's votes or something?
16:45 < zeronet> shameful and immoral
16:45 < ur_0x6a73> don't assume that people can't read.
16:45 < ur_0x6a73> Also, it's not a voting in a traditional sense
16:45 < ur_0x6a73> It's more of a survery
16:45 < ur_0x6a73> survey*
16:45 < ur_0x6a73> where people tell what licenses they can accept
16:45 < zeronet> I can show you that I'm not the only one who criticized the vote and its options
16:46 < zeronet> At least I can show you two person
16:46 < ur_0x6a73> zeronet: Go ahead
16:46 < zeronet> one is JeremyRand
16:46 < ur_0x6a73> Quotes?
16:47 < zeronet> Link
16:47 < zeronet> Just a momnt
16:47 < ur_0x6a73> Also, he's criticized the voting for other reasons, which are already resolved.
16:48 < zeronet>
16:48 < zeronet>   camponez
16:48 < zeronet>
16:48 < zeronet>     commented
16:48 < zeronet>       4 days ago
16:48 < zeronet> @sirMackk @ysc3839 @mkg20001 @xfq @6543 @d14na @camponez @kseistrup @eduaddad @probonopd @skwerlman
16:48 < zeronet> I have just noticed that you voted for GPLv3+ . I want to make sure
16:48 < zeronet> that the GPL options were clear enough, so let me explain it again:
16:48 < zeronet> GPLv3-only allows us to license the project under the standard GPLv3 licenseGPLv3+ allows us to license the project under "GPLv3 or later" but not the standard GPLv3 licenseGPLv3 allows us to use either "GPLv3 or later" or the standard GPLv3 license, whatever we find better or more compatible
16:48 < zeronet> I'm not sure why that needed explanation.... but my vote is the same.
16:48 < zeronet> :@
16:48 < zeronet> go and read the people on GitHub
16:49 < ur_0x6a73> I've read these commments already, you know. Scroll a few comments down and you'll find out that they've finally agreed that it's OK :>
16:49 < zeronet> camponez, JeremyRand, cclauss and some other also criticized the voting
16:50 < zeronet> all of them voted to GPLv3+
16:50 < ur_0x6a73> BTW, I've gotta go. I've got more interesting stuff than talking with a braindead communist. Last thing - I'm still waiting for you to sue us.
16:50 < zeronet> I'm a communist you fascist shit
16:50 < zeronet> yes I'm a communist
16:50 < zeronet> and I'm proud!
16:52 < ur_0x6a73> BTW, I'm uploading logs to pastebin before I leave.