thrshjffffff

They bitch about the term “female”, not doing anything to challenge the validity of the statement.
The meaning attached to a term like "female" in its incel existence is subjective. It's not like "sun" which means the same thing to everybody. It's a nuanced term and we're all introduced to incel use of the word "female" in different ways which shape our opinion of it. Most things are subjective like that.

Historically and currently, they are the vast minority of the world’s inventors, innovators, and engineers.
Most human beings have been unable to receive higher education and have been unable to obtain the resources to pursue it themselves. What we call modern human history is still young, and as women are now more able to take their education seriously I am sure we will have more innovations by the hands of women. :)

They’re almost absent from the hard sciences paving our path to the future.
It's improving! I can't talk though. I go to school to be a lighting technician...

They are the vast minority of politicians, most of which are complete embarrassments (look at Hilary Clinton, Theresa May, and Park Geun-hye).
Yeah, women have not been fairly represented in politics. In Canada women were only able to vote in federal elections in Canada during 1918. There's a lot of catching up to do. As for the corrupt politicians you mentions, both sexes have their fair share of complete wads.

They are heavily underrepresented in all of the arts, from painting, to music, to film, to literature (actual literature, not romance and YA).
There was a long while in the Western world where women who were able to publish used a masculine pseudonym, too. Opportunity breathes change. Also I think those crappy YA novels are important. It keeps teens reading, and as they get older their interests will nautrally evolve to be more sophisticated. As for romance novels, some of my favourite ones were written by men (see: Nicholas Sparks).

Women will blame the patriarchy for all of this, despite even the most independent feminist women unable to create anything more than virtue signaling trash.
What I think you really have an issue with is "Facebook activism", not women. Think Kony2012.

They are physically weaker than men, yet still demand equality in positions demanding strength.
I'm assuming you mean such as firefighter or bricklayer. It's enough to get the ball rolling though. If the women who are serious about these careers are able to reach their best possible physique, then let them save people!!

They want absolute equality in general, regardless of actual merit and ability.
Women worry about equality, but it sounds to me like you are worrying about equity.

Women peak in beauty by their 20s, and become a constantly declining asset, never reclaiming their physical peak.
Women used to be married off quite young and still are in many parts of the world, but in Western society we consider children untouchable by adults because they lack the maturity and mental stability to handle an adult relationship. Suck it up or move somewhere else.

Women constantly bitch about objectification in media, but constantly objectify themselves (slutty clothes, fakeup, etc).
I think this varies from person to person. If you are discussing a specific trend or have a journal/article you can provide I would be interested in checking it out.

Single mother’s do incredible damage a child’s upbringing, yet women mostly support women’s choices.
It takes two to tango.

Women have killed millions upon millions of fetuses simply because they don’t want to be a parent.
Men leave their families or give the family reasons to flee, like the other throwaway who replied stated.

Women will call me a misogynist simply for being hyper protective of fetuses, despite being hyper protective of babies no more intelligent than a chimpanzee.
This is once again too subjective to argue properly.

They’re extremely gossipy, yet never have anything interesting to say.
Subjective.

They’re passive aggressive and petty, and are often worse bullies than men.
This is a legitimate trend. I truly hope that as we open the door to converse with other people that the amount of empathy and understanding among humans in general will increase.

They share no interests with men, doubly so for nerdy men.
I will give a subjective reply since you use subjectivity too: OH I GOT THIS! I'M IN AV CLUB! I'M PURSING A CAREER IN LIGHTING DESIGN! I WORK A JOB AS A BROADCAST TECHNICIAN! Nothing makes me happier than well coiled cables <3

They become much more interested in things only after they become popular.
Yeah... being popular means people like it.

They are wired to Facebook and Instagram, primarily for social competition for popularity – not learning anything new or forming real connections.
...........You're on a forum called "involuntary celibates" bro.......

They’re flakey as fuck, and think promises can be broken depending on the situation.
As the previous cool lady said, this is a people thing.

They’re only attracted to the top 20% of men.
This is also very subjective. Maybe you only know shitty people. Get out there man, join an AV club.

Women are far more attracted to a man’s looks, money, and status than his own personality.
Upon first meeting someone all you have to base your judgement on is superficial. You could also include body language, tone of voice, and style in this category.
But I also truly urge you to go and talk to more people face-to-face. People are usually kinda okay once you get to know them.

My attractiveness to women is almost entirely merit-based or biology-based, which means my life/body must be perfect before they can consider me attractive.
Everyone does this to their preferred sex. Like I said before, until you get to know someone ALL you have are superficial cues.

Women spend their husband’s money on bullshit clothing, fakeup, and other consumerist goods.
If someone is in a relationship where one partner is able to financially support the other, bullshit consumerist goods probably aren't a worry (in this day and age--when the rate of women who work is at its highest).

Women spend around $20,000 on a wedding, and want even more for their diamond ring, and more to tingle her hypergamy.
Once again subjective and a little out of touch with the times.

70% of divorces are caused by women.
I looked this one up and read the Telegraph article on it. My personal opinion on this subject is that, like I said before, it takes two to tango. If divorce is the only option there must have been someone deeply flawed with the marriage anyway.

Women are completely willing to kill the sex in their marriage despite her husband’s need to be sexually validated.
And men are willing to beg for it despite a woman's low libido or lack of satisfaction. Really, sex shouldn't be used as an ultimatum though. In that kind of relationship you can probably assume that something is wrong with both partners regardless.

Women will divorce rape their husbands, stealings tens of thousands or more because their relationship wasn’t perfect.
What the fuck is divorce rape.
Okay I looked it up.
Some people are really fucked up, I agree.

Women all want dominant men, despite constantly saying they want an equal relationship.
It sounds like you have mixed up individuals as being representative of an entire group?

Women often love assholes.
Subjective

Women will call YOU the asshole for claiming this, despite the universal success of criminal men and bullies in the dating market, and the nearly infinite number of cocky assholes and bad boys gracing romance novels.
You should read some romance novels. I don't think you really know what they're like.

Women have made the word “nice” a slur.
That's not a slur. It's a fucking meme.

Women still want you to be nice, even when it always blows up I your face.
Subjective. Please go out and meet all kinds of new people. Over population is a huge issue but it means you will be able to experience all kinds of unique individuals.

Women want to be lead in a relationship, making them appear more like an agentless object than a human being.
Takes two to tango

Females bolster the numbers of the shittiest corners of the internet, like Tumblr, Jezebel, and The Mary Sue.
That is once again subjective.

Women invented the terms mansplaining, manspreading, and manflu – creating a minefield (manfield?) for the socially unskilled autist.
We lack a lot of words for things. We don't have an English equivalent of schadenfreude. If you're autistic and need to learn how to behave in public join AV club. I'll explain everything to you clear, concise, and one time. Our motto is "teamwork makes the dreamwork". Take notes when I speak.

Women have even claimed air conditioning is an element of the oppressive patriarchy.
Women are on average colder than men. I even have something called Raynaud's which means I get so cold sometimes my limbs turn pure white, this is more common in women as well. Look it up if you have the time. It could be useful information later in life.

Women demand you stand up for feminism, but have never stood up for men’s rights.
For most of history they were standing up for their own rights. I for one believe in equity and equality, and will proudly support a man if he faces abuse, sexual assault, is fighting circumcision, and many other issues. I do not know how to help though since most of my time is spent in school or at work. I will look into these causes next time I am able.

In fact, women usually call any man who is interested in male issues misogynists.
Wording is important.

Women think there is a rape culture in a country that punishes rape harder than most other nations.
I'm happy that the West has this kind of protection for victims. However, if someone feels like there is more to be done to help others and maintain justice, I do not see how that is an issue (you do not mention use of money or resources in your statement, so I assume you are talking about internet posts).

Women have done nothing about the REAL rape culture – the one in our male prison systems.
Once again, my own life is dominated by work and education. If there is something I can do to help, I'll try. Nobody can support everything but if there are some causes you feel passionately about and can guide me in how to help, I will put forth effort.

Women nag a LOT. Even my own mother.
So do men. So does my dad.
But jokes aside, most of your posts and comments are in a thread called "incels". Anyone who cares would do this. It hurts to watch someone suffer by their own choices.

Women try to peddle the gender pay gap despite doing less work at every turn.
Citation needed.
Unless you mean taking mat leave or something, which is completely understandable and important to raise a child.

Women, especially unmarried women, support the identity politics ruining liberalism.
Citation needed. If you have a journal/article which supports this claim I will be happy to read it. Until then I can't respond.

Women get offended at EVERYTHING.
"Females bolster the numbers of the shittiest corners of the internet, like Tumblr, Jezebel, and The Mary Sue." is what you said about a website you don't like bro.

Women are not offended by Islam, the most misogynistic religion in the world.
Okay because the previous lady worded it well I'll keep her quote: in north america that kind of misogyny proliferated by "political islam" (which is wholly different from the religion) isn't tolerated.


Women often have nothing to add in conversation that isn’t about themselves or popular opinion.
Please meet new people.

Women cry over the tiniest of events while men suffer in silence.
Encourage men to be more open then. It is unhealthy to keep everything bottled up.

Women care about a guy’s low partner count, but you can’t care about her high partner count.
What? Perhaps what they care about is a man's insecurity regarding women? I have not heard of this.

Women want men to hold up traditional masculine roles, but don’t want to hold up feminine gender roles.
You may be confusing two kinds of people. I would not say "Soccer fans want New Castle to win but do not want to support Manchester United".

Women have tons of casual sex with Chads during their 20s, then settle down with men they are less attracted to in their 30s.
Shouldn't the incel base be rejoicing. You lot seem like the kind of guys who would be happy about this.

Women will always try to hide what they are sexually attracted to, and recommend men to “be themselves”.
I am sexually attracted to someone who is not a douchebag when he is himself.

Women find emotionally vulnerable men EXTREMELY unattractive, and will abandon you are your darkest moment.
Bruh. You REALLY need to read those romance novels you were talking shit all over.

Women think that being a mom is a hard job.
Uppity women think that. Uppity men think that being their son's football coach is the most important part of life, as well. I hate uppity people and suggest you meet more kinds of people.

Women think their “emotional labor” is a part of their job, not a part of their relationship.
"Emotional labor or emotion work is a requirement of a job that employees display required emotions toward customers or others." An example might be your considerate Uber driver, not your girlfriend.

Women make no distinction between “lonliness” and entitlement.
I'm trying to follow. So when a women feels lonely, they actually feel entitled to have attention? This does not seem like a women's problem to me. It seems like a humankind thing.

Women ALWAYS treat low-value men like GARBAGE.
You mean low value as in fat, ugly, no job, no education on this sub I think. If someone is content with being a shitty person and does not work to improve then I will not like them. However I feel this way to men and women.

Women have never honestly listened to the detailed breakdown of Incel issues, but legitimately believe troll posts on Eliot Rodgers.
I am trying to do so right now.

None of the women I knew helped me in times where I was drowning in issues (while at least a few guys tried or had a few beers with me)
Okay, I really really suggest you meet new people. I am serious. This is where your argument completely falls apart. It's too subjective. If you have been hurt by women, your despair is valid. But as you read your own words, reflect on how flimsy the argument is and try to meet new people who will convince you otherwise.

Women hate TRP/PUA, but have utterly failed to create a viable alternative.
People meet their SOs in all sorts of places. Go out please and meet new people. Say hi to the bus driver. Anything!

Women will deny Red Pill Truths at every turn, even when scientific articles on hypergamy and women’s sexual tastes are shoved in front of them.
Citation bro.

Women think their singular experiences discredit wider social trends (I am a woman, and…).
I keep asking you for sources.... and calling out your own subjectivity as well. It seems like none of us have made strong arguments.

Women have shifted the discussion and analysis of media from their quality to their social qualities (I.E. – Wonder Woman isn’t great because it’s a great film, but because it’s the first big female-starred comic movie).
Never saw it. I'm more of a scifi gal than a superhero one. If it's successful then maybe more good movies will be made. My personal favourite movie is Drive, I like the lighting. If you want a quality film watch that.

Women will discredit entire characters because they’re sexually portrayed for men’s viewing.
Well then that's their opinion. Play however you want.

Women claim men slut shame despite women doing the brunt of slut shaming.
This a real problem. You've probably picked up on the fact that I'm optimistic, but I think it's getting better.

Three words: False. Rape. Allegations.
Three words: Actual. Fucking. Rape.
Humans are capable of all kinds of deceitful things. It has nothing to do with gender.

They get much lower sentences for the same crimes compared to men.
Yeah this is terrible. They're also more likely to get custody of their kids. I wasn't able to vote in my most recent election but if I ever see this addressed on a platform, I will seriously consider the issue.

They believe in religion more often than men.
Source pls.
Also, I find that people who believe in religion are the ones who NEED it. I would never bash someone for being religious. It may be corrupt but there is a purpose.

Most are fat these days, despite LOOKS being the #1 attractor for women.
Obesity is an epidemic and does not only impact women. We should ALL do our best to end this!

They still think all men want 10/10 supermodels, despite us just wanting someone’s who’s not fat and not a bitch.
Subjective

They have an advantage in the school system simply because its memory based vs performance based.
Oh boy.... I wish I was in that group. I'm way more performance oriented. But, to be hopeful, in my area schools are introducing things like active lessons and even using graphic novels to engage boys more. It's a great start.

They are more responsible for the popularity of SHIT pop music and stagnating culture.
Nah, that's got to do with wanting $$$$$$$.

They protest toxic masculinity, but love toxicly masculine men.
This is a poetic sentence but it makes no sense. Please rephrase this.

They need drama in the relationship, and would rather have a shitty rollercoaster than a stable relationship.
Boi this is a case-by-case thing. Men love it too.

Illegal prostitution keeps sexually unsuccessful men starving.
I think it should be legal.

Women still think virgin men just want sex.
Humans are multi faceted.

Get more attention in every way.
Do they put themselves our there more? Are the women you are thinking of more personable? There are reasons for these kinds of things.

Claim female Incels exsist, but don’t want to date male Incels.
Why tf would anyone want to date someone who's online group has a term called Lie Down And Rot?

Literally don’t find smiling men as attractive as brooding Alphas.
Yeah I remember the study on this. Well then don't smile.

Women didn’t demand for equality with men until AFTER the Industrial Revolution made things millions of times easier.
It made life as a whole easier. Nice.

Women suck at Chess? It’s the patriarchy’s fault.
Okay so this is how women blame everything on the patriarchy. My true suggestion is to meet new people. Seriously.

If she’s not a feminist, she still expects you to beat your ass off as her provider.
Yeah if she does not believe in equality that makes sense

You also have to be her handyman and do the heavy lifting around the house while she cleans dishes.
Women are on average smaller than men. I'm pretty tall and kind of handy so I can do it myself, but if my boyfriend were short I wouldn't make him do heavy lifting. That's just being considerate.

They take up the majority of our welfare and spend the most money.
Then how about we support them?

Not one ever bothered expressing any attraction to me.
MEET MORE PEOPLE MAN. I SWEAR THERE IS A WHOLE WIDE WORLD OF INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE. NOW MORE THAN EVER BEFORE. IT'S AMAZING. I LOVE THEM. YOU WILL TOO.

They do not differentiate between “evil” and “socially awkward”.
This is culture as a whole.

Popularized “The Selfie”.
How is this a problem

Are more aroused by Jeremy Meeks than average Joes.
This is not important man

Men see love as romantic, while women see it as a transaction (I.E. – What is in it for me?)
Longterm relationships should be taken seriously

Want freakishly tall men. How could I forget that!?
I'm 5'8" and shorter guys ignore me. Surround yourself with better people.

Refuse to acknowledge shortness is a death sentence for most men.
Tallness can be a problem for a women.

Have insane racial preferences that kick Indians and Asians out of the market.
I'm in an interracial relationship with one of those two races. It'll become more common over time.

Have never inspired me.
Meet more women. Research more women. If you feel uninspired it's your fault. Inspiration does not magically appear, it must be sought out.

Even my own mother gave up on me for one day.
This is the root of your issues. Personal problems=/=an entire gender.

Either hypocritical or has a false sense of insight (like Muslim women in headscarves wearing fake up)
Or they have different religious views maybe.

Can’t even make a Youtube video that’s unique and interesting.
SUBJECTIVE

Increasingly unable to cook or clean.
That's because of the society we live in.

Never given actually useful dating advice throughout human history.
I think before you try dating you should maintain simple friendships with women. That's my advice.

Want equal rights, but not equal lefts.
Is this one a joke?

Will respond to this post not with arguments, but shaming.
I tried my best.