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  1. [quote='Sammyfc' pid='273233' dateline='1556221605']
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  3. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]I’ll respond to all the statements in following paragraphs.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  5. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]Pufitee, you did state that there was no evidence proving that I demoted you from your job for that exact reason. But the screenshot posted in evidence does prove my claim. For your convenience, the link:[/font][/size][url=https://gyazo.com/5a06e100ec16cc6a3404ad5ca02a4bb0] [size=small][font=Arial]https://gyazo.com/5a06e100ec16cc6a3404ad5ca02a4bb0[/font][/size][/url][/font][/size]
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  7. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]If it was invalid, then you would have reported me for having an invalid reason to demote you. Might I also add that I have no reason to lie in the courthouse, as it’ll only worsen my case.
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  9. [size=small][font=Arial]As stated in the report instructions: Keep in mind: Fabricating or tampering with evidence with intent to mislead is under zero tolerance and will result in a permanent ban. Providing false statements in the courthouse may also result in a ban or a significant forum warning.[/font][/size]
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  14. My bad then, forgot that part occured, though I do not like how you imply that it is a direct and malicious lie on my part instead of simply being a misspeak
  15. [quote='Sammyfc' pid='273233' dateline='1556221605']
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  17. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]You appointed both Nemesis and Forceghost to appear as a superior to me and therefore the entire force. In other words, you took the role from me to give it to both your friends. You could have easily demoted me from my role in an attempt to give it to either Nemesis or Force. It would have had the same effect.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  19. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]However, that is not allowed on this server. This, in my eyes counts as powergaming. Because you enabled both of your friends to abuse your power I find them equally guilty of the rule breakage.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  23. Could you please cite evidence to back this claim of powergaming? Simply giving anotherplayer more IC power is not powergaming.
  24. Whether or not I wish to create a new position within the police force is entirely at my discretion as the chain of command when it comes to police matters goes:
  25. President
  26. Chief of police
  27. Various underlings
  28. If I feel a new position is needed, and said poistion is above your own, then so be it and should you disagree with this please file your complains regarding the matter with my secretary ICly in the future or by bringing it to me directly.
  29. [quote='Sammyfc' pid='273233' dateline='1556221605']
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  31. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]I also believe you to have been roleplaying as a dictator. After a quick research I have come across several dictionaries that prove my point.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  33. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]“A dictator is a political leader who possesses absolute power.”[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  35. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]You held absolute power over the entire police force by appointing your own chiefs. I doubt you were granted permission to conduct such a roleplay. This is why I think you also broke rule 11.8.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  39. This is the default setting of LL's president system, there is no electrion system beyond an RP that players can do, but are not required to do, they have complete and absolute power over all of their underlings, and the very laws of the land with zero oversight or control beyond an uprising or a crime being committed on their part.
  40. It deserves repeating, by default, this is not a dictatorship under LL policy as this is how ALL presidents spawn in.
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  42. [quote='Sammyfc' pid='273233' dateline='1556221605']
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  44. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]Additionally, I feel you broke rule 3.3 as shown in the video. You were recklessly driving in a hot pink school bus to get to the scene immediately to stand on several vehicles. You even hopped on the roof of the vehicle, what I do not expect a president to do.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  46. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]Albeit it’s allowed to drive yourself around as the president you have to do so in a manner appropriate for a president. Which clearly, you did not.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  50. Please provide further evidence to back your claim that this action was out of context for the situation at hand and before for prior inccidents and RP situations?
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  52. Considering the huge variety of various crummy president type RP that exist on LL this may very well be entirely within character and context.
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  54. You are required to back such a claim with evidence prior to this report being posted, and cannot simply request a log check due to logs themselves not showing a full story or context.
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  57. PR Policy #2: Evidence is a requirement, do not request log checks, include solid evidence for your report or do not post one.
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  60. [quote='Sammyfc' pid='273233' dateline='1556221605']
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  62. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]I used in-game mechanics to demote you, for it was I that was in the police slot. I believe the role Pufitee gave you with invalid in both the In-Character sphere and Out-of-Character sphere. If you’re still wondering why, I’d urge you to re-read my paragraphs.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  65. Useing your own logic in this situation as you have now reminded me that you we're infact demoted after the fact:
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  67. (I used in game mechanics to demote you, for it was I that was in the president slot, I believe the role you had at the time was no longer suitable in an IC sense as you had clearly gone against my policies and instructions)
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  71. Still not entirely seeing why this is an issue for either case, as both actions are IC, and we're handled with their associated consiquences as such.
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  73. [quote='Sammyfc' pid='273233' dateline='1556221605']
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  75. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]Because you so happened to ask for the rules that were broken, find all rules listed below:[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  77. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]3.4 - Powergaming is not allowed. E.g do not write “/me pulls out a gun and shoots his opponent right in the head” when it hasn’t actually happened in the game. Instead of “/me kicks the man in the groin” use “/me attempts to kick the man in the groin” and let the other player decide the outcome; alternatively you can use /roll to decide the outcome. Other examples of powergaming – changing jobs just to buy something from the market for yourself, abusing the /demote command to get rid of a police officer holding you at gunpoint.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  79. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]3.3 - Do not do unrealistic things out of context (FailRP). Think of reasons for your actions and what you do and ask yourself if it’s realistic – e.g running around the city punching everyone as the President is FailRP. This also applies to unrealistic buildings out of context.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  81. [size=medium][font=Times New Roman][size=small][font=Arial]11.8 - You require admin permission to become a dictator as President.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  84. [size=small][font=Arial]Regards,[/font][/size]
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  87. [size=small][font=Arial][size=small][font=Arial]Sammy.[/font][/size][/font][/size]
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  89. 3.4: Please provide evidence to back your claims as word alone is not sufficiant
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  91. 3.3: Please provide evidence to show that said actions we're out of context for the overall at hand
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  93. 11.8: Default president starts are not a dictatorship under LL policy
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