Verlux vs Gecko

Gecko R1

* Movement speed is what matters in CTF, my team is really good at moving fast
* Naganadel moves fast look at my framecalc 250m/s
* Naganadel can cross the park in 15-20 seconds which will make searching for the flag easy and therefore CTF easy
* Lycanroc can use accelrock to move fast, here is that
* And he can do it constantly
* Krookodile swings its tail fast, 5 swings in 200ms
* this is slow, and lycanroc agrees  because lycanroc blitzes krookodile in less than half a swing
* therefore lycanroc moves at 150m/s
* Hawlucha flies fast and jumps fast
* keeps pace with other flying types who are fast, and we know they were going fast because they were flying to save ash
* fr bois don't move that fast
* lycanroc could sniff out somebody across an island by scent before evolving into his final form, so finding a flag made of unique material should be easy

I like the focus on CTF.

Verlux R1

* FR boiz have stealth out the ass
* Because they have stealth they can ignore physicals disparity if one exists
* FR boiz have a ton of options that all hurt the Poketeam
* plus if the poketeam can't neutralize stealth they all hit
* the stealth means FR boiz can CTF or kill Poketeam
* Jarlaxle will be able to find the flag because X-Ray eyepatch
* Drizzt and Entreri can defend flag to great effect, with the flag webbed down by Jarlaxle meaning it won't move without the ground under it

Verlux covers his bases well in this response, basically arguing he can either force an engagement that he wins or win CTF by having stealth

Gecko R2

* Pokemon and specifically Lycanroc have good senses and can hear things from very far away, plus Lycanroc tracking is still a thing
* therefore because of poketeam's good hearing they won't be stealthfucked
* fr boiz seem to be high arrow timing with some number of slashes per second
* Naganadel moves multiple directions in 40ms
* Hawlucha blitzes people who react to sound waves
* Lycanroc fights evenly with a 6ms opponent
* FRboiz use piercing, Pokemon kinda dgaf about piercing
* here's hawlucha not being pierced by leaves that cuts through stone
-this gif is not the leaves cutting through stone, this claim is unsubstantiated
* lycanroc clashes with iron tail, which cuts through metal
* soul drain isn't instantaneous
* the scimitar didn't cut all the way through the metal that's > steel
* otherwise FRboiz are weak
* including electricity, which hawlucha is weak to and still took an attack that was much more powerful than the electricity frboiz dish
* Poketeam hits really hard and FRboiz are not durable
* plus poketeam has good range
* "restrain a dragon" could mean anything, here is an unimpressive dragon that i could also call a dragon
* even if the webbing is strong, the ground isn't and your team still can't stop mine from just taking the flag
* Jarlaxle has no movespeed
* Not all of Poketeam has to go for the flag, just the fastest ones would work
* Jarlaxle has no poison resist, Naganadel poison incaps on touch, no way Jarlaxle gets the flag
* Ambush won't work, FRboiz btfo'd by pokemon, my team finds flag way before his team so even if fights happen i win first

I think the continuing focus on "I CTF better" is done really well in Gecko's response, even with a mislinked piercing resist feat.

Verlux R2

* the scenting thing clearly isn't the dog pokemon sniffing across an island but instead following a trail that happened to be nearby that led it across the island
* central park is foreign to the pokemon and so are my team, why would it be able to pick out my team's scent
* pokehearing is based on a loud battle, not on detecting someone who doesn't want to be found
* frboiz are supa quiet
* regular drow weapons = iron tail, current weapons > regular drow weapons, therefore pokepiercing resist isn't enough to stop them from being cut
* frboiz oneshot poketeam with piercing
* Jarlaxle can avoid the poison by portable holing the flag to carry it around because he can see it's covered in poison
* FRboiz oneshot
* FRboiz hit because stealth makes them hit
* Movespeed advantage negated because no way to react to stealthfucking
* Jarlaxle can make flag grab happen because stealthfucking works
* Portable hole counters poison flag

Piercing memes can cut steel beams

My thoughts and judgment:

Gecko argued the Pokemon all moved at 150m/s or faster, and that they can go get the flag very quickly, in under a minute. Additionally, he remarked that the FRboiz were slow in movement speed and unlikely to be able to catch or stop the Pokemon from enacting this win condition. Verlux countered this by saying "stealth > physicals" but never actually stated a way in which his team could meaningfully hinder the Pokemon from just taking the flag; nor did he supply any feats to support the interpretation that the FRboiz could fight Pokemon who 1) aren't being argued to engage the opposing team and 2) move way faster than the FRboiz. I didn't see any particular reason to think the FRboiz could even put something in the way of, for example, Naganadel, who was argued as 250m/s, and stop it from taking the flag. In short, I believe that the FRboiz would be able to kill a Pokemon if they hit it, but not that they could hit it or stop it from taking the flag.

Gecko takes the win.