Kenny Convo

<Kenny|AFK> that was a warning. if you reasd tghe rules next time is 3 days
<Kodos> Don't the rules say 24h first
<Kodos> then 3 days
<gamax92> yes they do
<Kenny|AFK> no they don't. not for spamming a bot
<Kodos> Ah, rihgt
<gamax92> then rule 3 is confusing
<Kenny|AFK> why, it just specifies you will be held responsible for spamming the bot
<Kodos> RIght but
<Kodos> If spamming hte bot is spamming, why have rule 2
<gamax92> Kenny|AFK: and unlike rule 2, there is no specific offense times.
<Kodos> gamax92, under rule 10
<Kenny|AFK> 24  7 day  perm
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<gamax92> Kenny|AFK: so, then it says 24h's first?
<Porygon> is it spam if I use it now? >.>
<Kenny|AFK> not for spamming a bot
<gamax92> Kenny|AFK: Where is this exception listed?
<Kenny|AFK> spamming a bot is 3 day thern perm
<Porygon> .!
<^v> Porygon, !!!1!one!!!!
<Kodos> The rules are a bit unclear
<Kenny|AFK> rule 2, no spamming the bots
<gamax92> sooo, then its 3days and not 24hours?
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<Altenius> I spammed the bot in /msg
<Kenny|AFK> gamax92, you better read the rules closer, there is also one for deliberately trying to piss off an op
<gamax92> I'm not trying to piss you off, they are unclear.
<JoshTheEnder> !rules
<Altenius> !rules
<Porygon> this is a dumb argument
<Altenius> !motd
<JoshTheEnder> i though it was gonna be a link ¬_¬
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<JoshTheEnder> .forums
<^v> JoshTheEnder, http://oc.cil.li/
<Kodos> Rules 2 and 3 are countering each other, remove the reference of spamming the bot from 3 and it's fine
<gamax92> It could mention about getting kicked as a warning before the times for the offenses?
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<JoshTheEnder> i just managed to crash hexchat :P
<Kenny|AFK> i was going easy since Porygon wanted to be a smart ass and do it after i said something.  you want i should enforce the the 3 day on him now or do you just keep your mouth shut when i decide to just warn someone and not straight ban them
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<Kodos> Kenny, we're trying to say that the rules regarding the bot spam are made unclear by the conflicts of 2 and 3, no need to get irritated
<Kenny|AFK> read rule 10
<Kodos> I'm not whining holy shit
<JoshTheEnder> !rules
<Altenius> There is no conflict.
<Kenny|AFK> i'm sitting here trying to battle down the pain in my back and gamax92 wants to bhe his usual smart ass self....
<gamax92> Well sorry for being confused about 2 and 3.
<Altenius> He's not doing it right..
<Kodos> Gamax isn't being a smartass, he's making the same point I am
<Altenius> There's no conflict.
<Kodos> 3. No spamming. As in, no excessive repetition and/or pointless -as deemed so by a moderator- messages.
<Kodos>     --Note: if you cause a bot in the channel to spam, YOU will be held responsible, NOT the bot.
<Kenny|AFK> now, you can stop while you are ahead and i'm not pissed yet or keep arguing with me and i can't get this pain under control and then decide to go ballastic
<Kodos> The second part implies that spamming the bot will count as spamming
<Altenius> There's no conflict.
>JoshTheEnder< Please say something because holy shit if he keeps going off, I'm going to not be in this channel anymore if he keeps abusing power
<Porygon> there's no one here to place bets with
<JoshTheEnder> Kodos, because it is, generally
<Kodos> Right, but the offense punishment times conflict
<Kodos> Spamming the bot is 3 days, spamming is 24h
<Kenny|AFK> Porygon, you are on thin ice as it is.
<Kenny|AFK> right.  and number 3 specifies you are responsible if you spam a bot which would entail the larger penalty
<Altenius> It never specifies that spamming the bot inherits the same punishments as spamming.
<Kodos> It implies that if you cause the bot to spam, you're being held responsible for spamming, which warrants the 24h ban
<Kodos> And NOT the 3 day one mentioned in Rule 12
<Kodos> 2*
<Altenius> It never specifies that it will inherit the same punishements as spamming.
<Kodos> But it CAN be misinterpreted as such
<Kodos> Thus the need to clarify
<Altenius> Maybe
<Kodos> Just because the majority of us are smart enough to know better of such confusion, we can't assume all of IRC is
<JoshTheEnder> i've just made changes to http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/74-oc-channel-rules/ to make it more clearer
<Kenny|AFK> Kodos, give it a fucking rest for now.  I AQM NOT DOING A FUCKING THING TO CHANGE THE RULE NOW SO SHUT THE FUCK UP
<Kodos> Josh fixed it already, and Kenny, please either calm down or log out, because this is the nth time you've flipped your shit on someone who wasn't doing anything but trying to help
<Kodos> I'm merely trying to make sure the rules are clear enough for everyone who comes into the channel to understand
<Kenny|AFK> who would not let an issue rest EVEN AFTER I said i was ikn FUCKING PAIN
<Kodos> Seeing as they get PM'd the link the first time they come in
<Altenius> You were NOT trying to help
<Kodos> Kenny if you're in pain, log out, and rest
<Kodos> That's what I'd do
<Kodos> Being at a computer isn't going to make my back any better if I was hurting
<Kenny|AFK> i can't the chan stats go thru me
<JoshTheEnder> Kenny|AFK, /detach instead of /part
<Kenny|AFK> sitting back in my chair would if someone would have dropped a fucking issue when i asked
<Kodos> Also I'd appreciate you being a bit more nicer to me, as per rule 4: being respectful of those in the channel.
<Kodos> I was simply trying to help clarify the rules, nothing more
<JoshTheEnder> Kodos, drop it, idk if he's detached or not but we dont need him starting up again
<Kenny|AFK> I was till you wouldn't drop the issue
<JoshTheEnder> well, that answers my question
<Kenny|AFK> and i'm still not really pissed, don't push me
<Kodos> I'm not pushing anything?
<Kodos> I had an issue, it was fixed, problem solved
<Altenius> Shut the hell up Kodos
<Kodos> Altenius, rule 4
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<Kenny|AFK> Kodos, maybe you should practice what you preach as you disrespected me everytime you opened your mouth about that issue after i said i was in pain and not ot push.
<Kodos> And of course I can't speak to defend myself
<Kenny|AFK> i would have gotten to fixing it but I DO NOT LIVBE AT YOUR BECK AND CALL
<Kodos> I didn't expect you to fix it right this second
<Kodos> I was pointing out that it just needed clarification
<Kodos> You seemed to not understand where it needed to be clearer, so I further explained
<mallrat208> Holy shit guys... Really?.. You know what.. I've got an easy solution for me.
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<Kenny|AFK> and you kept pushing it repeatedly after that, when i was now aware of it but really didn't have time to fix it
<Kodos> Then you can simply say "I don't really feel well, perhaps I can fix it later when I'm more capable of doing things" and not " Kodos, give it a fucking rest for now.  I AQM NOT DOING A FUCKING THING TO CHANGE THE RULE NOW SO SHUT THE FUCK UP"
<Kenny|AFK> !quiet Kodos
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<Kodos> Wow
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