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Keizaron

Comparisons

Dec 27th, 2016
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  1. Sun (+itotaka's route, n3ds) vs. Moon (+Keizaron's route, o3ds) Comparison
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  3. Assume turns are 6 seconds (they're roughly around that time)
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  5. Silk Scarf and Echoed Voice:
  6. No Silk Scarf vs Silk Scarf - ~9 seconds in favour of no scarf
  7. No Echoed Voice vs Echoed Voice - ~45 seconds in favour of no EV + repel + scarf equip
  8. Verdict: Skipping both is faster by ~53 seconds
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  10. Ilima fight:
  11. Torrent Water Gun is a range on Smeargle unless 18 IV +Sp.Att nature; Echoed Voice (third tier) is guaranteed on 10 IV -Sp.Att and above
  12. Verdict: Echoed Voice is way safer but not necessarily faster
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  14. Berry tree Team Skull Grunt:
  15. X Sp.Att + Water Gun x2 - ~44.5 seconds
  16. Echoed Voice x3 - ~46.5 seconds
  17. Verdict: Assuming Echoed Voice x3 is actually faster, but n3ds vs o3ds loading may be why Echoed Voice x3 is slower; unsure
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  19. Rattata/Yungoos:
  20. Can outspeed Yungoos, looks like Yungoos doesn't hurt as much? Unsure
  21. 1/2 turn saved per fight in Sun
  22. Raticate/Gumshoos:
  23. Can outspeed Gumshoos, both appear to be 3 to 4 turn fights depending on rolls
  24. 1/2 turn saved assuming equal turns in Sun
  25. Echoed Voice would guarantee a 3 turn fight on Gumshoos
  26. Verdict: Oos are faster than Rats by about 1 1/2 turns
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  28. Popplio vs Brionne:
  29. x turns (can be as quick as 2-3) to lose to Hau 3 vs 5 turns to win - 2-3 turns in favour of losing in best case scenario
  30. Skipping Growlithe vs fighting Growlithe - 2 turns in favour of skipping
  31. 8 turn Hala 1 vs 7 turn Hala 1 - 1 turn in favour of early Brionne + time to equip Oran Berry (negligible)
  32. Verdict: 3-4 turns faster to stay as Popplio in best case scenario, but riskier
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  34. Dexio vs Sina
  35. Echoed Voice Dexio: 3 turns on Slowpoke, 2-5 turns on Espeon (wildly inconsistent depending on Sp.Def, damage taken and broken voice chain) - 5-8 turns
  36. No Echoed Voice Dexio: 5 turns on Slowpoke, 2-3 turns on Espeon - 7-8 turns
  37. Echoed Voice Sina: 2-3 turns on Delibird, 2 turns on Glaceon - 4-5 turns
  38. No Echoed Voice Sina: X Sp.Att x2, 1 turn on Delibird, 2-3 turns on Glaceon (very favourable 2 turn) - 5-6 turns
  39. Verdict: Moon is faster and more consistent than Sun; Echoed Voice can save a turn in Moon and potentially two turns in Sun
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  41. Hau 4:
  42. Losing: 2-4 turns
  43. Winning: 4-6 turns, depending on damage taken
  44. Verdict: Losing is faster, duh.
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  46. Gladion 1:
  47. Echoed Voice: 2-3 turns on Zubat, 1-2 turns on Type: Null - 4-5 turns
  48. No Echoed Voice: 4 turns on Zubat, 2 turns on Type: Null - 6 turns
  49. Verdict: Echoed Voice saves 1-2 turns
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  51. Wishiwashi (assuming no Alomomola):
  52. Echoed Voice: 4 turns
  53. No Echoed Voice: 5 turns
  54. Verdict: Echoed Voice saves 1 turn
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  56. Hidden Power takes about 30 seconds to get and teach and saves about 24 seconds potentially with a super effective move against grass
  57.  
  58. Solgaleo is taught 2 moves instead of 1.
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  60. Gladion 3:
  61. Solgaleo - 6 turns
  62. Lunala - 7-8 turns (one Z move)
  63. Verdict: Solgaleo is faster by 1-2 turns plus no Z move
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  65. Hau 6:
  66. Solgaleo (+ Primarina) - 8 turns + changing to Switch style + two "switch" text boxes + two swaps
  67. Lunala - 8-9 turns (one Z move)
  68. Verdict: Solgaleo is faster only because of the Z move
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  70. Hala 2:
  71. Solgaleo - 6 turns
  72. Primarina - 7 turns (plus swap to front)
  73. Verdict: Solgaleo is faster by 1 turn
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  75. Olivia 2:
  76. Solgaleo - 10 turns (Elixir was used when Carbink was sent out)
  77. Lunala - 9-10 turns
  78. Verdict: Solgaleo is slightly faster (Lunala has to be switched back to the front)
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  80. Acerola:
  81. Solgaleo - 9-11 turns (dependent on Shadow Claw crits and health for Aftermath)
  82. Lunala - 9-11 turns (dependent on Shadow Ball drops and healing)
  83. Verdict: Solgaleo is most likely faster; no healing before fight is needed like Lunala
  84.  
  85. Kahili:
  86. Solgaleo - 8 turns
  87. Primarina - 9-11 turns (plus swapping to front)
  88. Verdict: Solgaleo is faster
  89.  
  90. Kukui:
  91. Solgaleo - 14 turns (more if more heals are needed)
  92. Primarina + Lunala - 14-17 turns (dependent on Primarina succeeding or failing)
  93. Verdict: Solgaleo is faster on account of Primarina faint + Lunala swap
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