Anti-Jewish debate and other topics in #christiandebate

13:34 euphtastic
K-Pax I wanted to address something you said the other day about antisemitism. Not sure you are online tho.
BadWolf
Fun movie
euphtastic
Yah
BadWolf
Shame about kevin spacey
euphtastic
fck him. glad his career is over.
BadWolf
Indeed
13:38 euphtastic
its wierd how some statements are always lies but we agree not to call people out on them like "thanks, i will read this later"
euphtastic
queer histories and queer legends for Pride month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-gd3H789Zc

13:42 BadWolf
BS_Lewis is just jealous he doesn't know how to get around the swearbot with "colourful metaphors" as well as I do
euphtastic
Lewis is a bit obsessive about me I guess
euphtastic
BadWolf lol
euphtastic
I don't know how to cuss well, I just use the pedestrian terms
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euphtastic
Some of these stories are pretty cool. Ya all should click and learn some queer stuff :)
BadWolf
BS_Lewis: And any op especially the founder is free to ask me to leave, and I will.
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BadWolf
BS_Lewis: You are the one asking me to adhere to puritanical authority.
BadWolf
BS_Lewis: I am just being normal.
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soilentrunnin
blasfamous seamus!
karstensrage
BS_Lewis, https://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/smart-living/20-things-you’re-saying-you-didn’t-know-were-offensive/ss-AAAesUN?f#image=15
BadWolf
I am not judging, but surely I should be the one drinking way too much vodka, being it's 10pm and not 5pm
karstensrage
BS_Lewis, not sure, ask a native american
karstensrage
yesterday
K-Pax
euphtastic: Here I am.
karstensrage
like a ring?
14:04 karstensrage
or like the guys that sing at the wedding
14:04 karstensrage
yes i wear a wedding ring
K-Pax
euphtastic: It's fascinating to me the take of some 'whites' in this era.
K-Pax
Imagine a person's big takeaway in this moment, being a 'white' person, is, "Wait, they might come after me!"
euphtastic
K-Pax there is this idea that with emancipation jews were uplifted and became part of europe, that it was a passive process. We chose to leave the ghettoes, chose to leave our religious courts behind, chose to enter the cities and the trades. We entered society on our own terms in our own ways. Reform Judaism was invanted to make that happen........
K-Pax
That's akin to a moment when the drunkard main character catches himself in the mirror at 10a, already drunk, fetching another bottle of gin. It's a chance for a course correction in life, all for the price of deep shame.
euphtastic
This did lead to Jews critiquing themselves, and our new role in society. Theodor Herzl, Hannah Arendt, the russian Zionists, all had criticisms which could be labelled as Antisemitic today. She is right when she said part of what made us easy targets were the positions we chose to take in society.
euphtastic
That angle has a great deal of legitimacy
euphtastic
But still does not explain why hitler went after jewish bankers - and jewish homeless people, rather than jewish bankers, and german bankers
euphtastic
K-Pax, white fragility is real
K-Pax
"I'm worried that this other putative racial group in my nation might usurp power as it currently resides and then construct a society in which they use the apparatuses of their state to oppress me or hurt me or block my expression."
K-Pax
It's so close when somebody has that thought!
K-Pax
"Yes, it would be a very unpleasant nation to live in where such a thing could happen. Surely, we should strive such a state never exists."
soilentrunnin
K-Pax: i am very sorry - as long as you unearth some more creativity than tostraight up lift your nick from a semi-popular movie - your whole worldview is in question
K-Pax
"I know, right. As a white person, I don't want to be oppressed in that manner."
euphtastic
K-Pax it is like anti immigrant folks who believe White Genocide is a thing, it is projecting our sins unto others
soilentrunnin
are you willing to share the st. petersburg address you are working out of with the rest of us, K-Pax ?
euphtastic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY&list=RDMV_3Dpw-BRY&start_radio=14

K-Pax
euphtastic: Yes, if you believe states can only be constructed such they have oppressors and oppressed, it would be somewhat understandable to wish to not be the oppressed.
euphtastic
nods
karstensrage
BS_Lewis, not yet, they are lined up though. mrs. karstensrage wants to finish parks and rec first
soilentrunnin
euphtastic: remind me....you are the one who wondered why black folks tend to destroy "their own neighborhoods" in moments of crisis, right`?
K-Pax
"The thing we're trying to do here in America, though, fren, is to construct a state that, while not perfect, doesn't have any large divides for the lives of people depending on immutable characteristics. We might call this principle 'equality under the law'. Quick, somebody write that down."
karstensrage
dont know much about cars, i  dont think the 4runner is known for towing so it wouldnt be of any interest to me
euphtastic
<+soilentrunnin> euphtastic: remind me....you are the one who wondered why black folks tend to destroy "their own neighborhoods" in moments of crisis, right`?  <-- no
euphtastic
hi missbliss
soilentrunnin
my mistake, euphtastic
karstensrage
hi MissBliss
soilentrunnin
you could be a liar, thought...
K-Pax
euphtastic: I shall engage in your antisemitism topic in just one moment.
karstensrage
BS_Lewis, ok id be into that, but youd have to tone down the riding of my butt about literally everything, deal?
karstensrage
lol
soilentrunnin
karstensrage: may i take BS_Lewis's place there?
euphtastic
K-Pax, tbh my partner is going to teach me how to play magic the gathering in a few, so i will be afk for a while, some other time would be better
euphtastic
bbl
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soilentrunnin
as it's been written in the elder scrolls.....through karstensrage's buttcrack thought shall find the pathway to heaven
soilentrunnin
pipe down, birt with tit
K-Pax
euphtastic: Those were interesting points.
K-Pax
Okay, talk later. Have fun slingin' some spells.
K-Pax
Your point about Jewish and German bankers seems strong and I can't immediately answer it -- explaining anti-Jewishness is difficult, it seems.
soilentrunnin
rest quietly in that you guys figured out to be funny back in the 70's with fawlty towers and nevermore since, BadWolf
TrollT
Hi BS_Lewis.
TrollT would be part of your tag-team if you want.
soilentrunnin
...well, black books maybe - but thats all the treats you get
K-Pax
My personal theory as to the underlying psychology of anti-Jewishness is that Jewish culture is one of the most successful communities and they outcompete other groups, which leads to deep shame in non-Jews around them.
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TrollT
But i am available here. :)
K-Pax
And, one of the cleanest ways to show the world, and yourself, that you're not inferior to something is to just destroy that thing entirely.
soilentrunnin
bbc financed it, BadWolf
K-Pax
soilentrunnin: Did you enjoy that movie?
soilentrunnin
it was like a rectal feeding experience, K-Pax
K-Pax
soilentrunnin: Rectal feeding doesn't exist.
soilentrunnin
there are official reports that seem to disagree with you on that issue, K-Pax
K-Pax
There's no medical evidence that it's a valid process. It's a term of propaganda created by terrorists of the United States government to support systematic rape of 'undesirables', most of whom were innocent and ultimately released.
soilentrunnin
dont be blasphemous now, towards the scriptures of south park now
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K-Pax
soilentrunnin: The US government published documents supporting it as a practice. This is an example of lawfare.
K-Pax
Lawfare is one of the primary weapon systems in contemporary warfare.
K-Pax
However, the AMA wrote in public that it is a form of rape.
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soilentrunnin
you can ingest a whole roasted duck through rectal ingestion - i have SEEN it on southpark!!!!
K-Pax
soilentrunnin: I decided to end our dialogue, as you seem undesirable.
K-Pax
https://twitter.com/RVAT2020/status/1271504127735062534
K-Pax
This is a powerful ad.
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NewPan
why is he banned ??? he seemed like a nice guy
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karstensrage
is that really lindseygraham?
karstensrage
K-Pax,
K-Pax
karstensrage: Yes.
karstensrage
wow what a turn around
K-Pax
During the 2016 campaign he was vehemently against Donald Trump.
karstensrage
i know
K-Pax
He compared choosing between Trump and Clinton as being shot v. stabbed.
karstensrage
and then turned into his personal butt licker
karstensrage
then got outed and changed his tune again
K-Pax
And he really did say those things about Joe Biden, too -- I think about two months ago when Biden received some criticism for his comments on The Breakfast Club.
K-Pax
Yep, the absolute best scenario is that Lindsey Graham is a sniveling coward and unfit to lead.
K-Pax
More likely, is that Trump and/or Russia have kompromat on him about his sexuality or financial dealings.
karstensrage
wet paper bag dude wet paper bag
NewPan
Trump is pure evil incarnation
karstensrage
NewPan, bunker boy just represents the shameful behavior getting away with it
K-Pax
NewPan: Indeed.
K-Pax
Duty to Warn, which you find on Twitter, has made the claim that most of the great evils in history are due to malignant narcissism, which seems to be highly true.
NewPan
All humanity should stand against trump imo
K-Pax
And Trump has an extraordinary case of malignant narcissism.
K-Pax
NewPan: Absolutely.
NewPan Greets K-Pax
K-Pax
As America descends into suffering, it will export that suffering to other peoples of Earth.
NewPan
the world is in very bad state right now ... we need a saviour
K-Pax does the wave from Demolition Man
NewPan
i am sure a saviour will come K-Pax
K-Pax
NewPan: What kind of savior?
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NewPan
K-Pax : from God
karstensrage
NewPan, the thing i dont get is hes the least christian person on earth, why does any christian support him
K-Pax
karstensrage: Because American Christianity is largely rotten.
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NewPan
karstensrage :  racism goes deep into the bible itself
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K-Pax
Just as religion was in the time of Jesus.