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- Conversation started 16 September 2012
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:13
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I don't imagine you could've handled this entire situation any worse.
- That said
- I'm willing to talk.
- Only out of personal respect, not because I'm willing to cave. You should understand how badly you've fucked yourself here.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:19
- Gaël Honorez
- I will repeat myself, two solutions :
- - Put me as admin of the page and remove yourself (you can).
- - Be banned from FAF for power abuse.
- Either way I don't care, you are not holding any intellectual property over FAF, and I've already sent a message to remove/give me the older facebook page.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:23
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Yes. I got your message.
- Neither of those options are suitabel for me right now
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:23
- Gaël Honorez
- think is, you don't decide that.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:23
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- And trying to get facebook to remove the page, won't work for you. I created it
- they won't remove it.
- It's unfortunate we have arrived at this point.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:24
- Gaël Honorez
- I gave you responsibilities over FAF, and you abused it.
- I beg to differ.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:24
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Youve me responsibility without privilege
- in essence, you asked me to work for free and to treat me like shit.
- and you had that.
- that was okay
- but then exivo banned me
- and I told, explicitily, that this is exactly what would happen.
- You are too proud to realise, that I can speak and acess the entire playerbase much easier than you can.
- AND
- that was step one.
- So, we can go to round 2
- or we can step back and look, ignoring all the power plays and all the bullshit
- making exivo a mod?! WTF WERE YOU THINKING
- all the bullshit asde. I'm right.
- If you want to make cheaters moderators, I can't be a part of that. If you want to make the facebook page an advertisement for another game, I can't be a part of that.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:28
- Gaël Honorez
- As you want.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:28
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- If you want to leave at this. That's fine. I'll stay banned. You're going to have to come to terms with the fact that I will be able to voice my opinions directly to the entire FAF playerbase
- so.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:29
- Gaël Honorez
- ok then.
- but don't cry later.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- If that's the case - round 2. Then we'll talk in a couple of days.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:29
- Gaël Honorez
- I gave you a chance
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I gave *you* a chance
- You may not realise this, but unlike kmost of the people in FAF. I respect you enough not to be a yes man.
- anyways
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:30
- Gaël Honorez
- I suggest that you read this : http://www.facebook.com/legal/copyright.php
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:30
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- we'll come back to this in a couple of days
- Zep, I've prepared for this contigency for a long time.
- Do you really think we'd be here, if it would be that easy.
- Do you reaelly not know what you're doing?
- And the trying to brute force my account, from another country. Real smooth.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:32
- Gaël Honorez
- what ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:33
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- The FB security team emailed me, telling me that somebody has been trying to brute force my account from Germany. You'd of course, not know anything about that.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:34
- Gaël Honorez
- I have other things to do than trying to do that yes
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:34
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Look, despite our difference over this issue. I will nto denigrate FAF itself
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:34
- Gaël Honorez
- but I guess that you already piss off people
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:34
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- But I won't keep my mouth shut anymore.
- Well you're french
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:35
- Gaël Honorez
- that will only start I think
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:35
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Eh, well if you asked somebody to try - I'd tell them to stop. That's criminal xchrages, and headaches we both don't need.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:35
- Gaël Honorez
- and I didn't ask anyone to do that either if you are wondering
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:35
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- charges*
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:35
- Gaël Honorez
- it's as childish as what you are doing
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:36
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- What am I doing that's childish? I've not abused any power. I told you explicitily that this was all available to me, and these were all things that I build my self
- It's not my fault you underestimated my power to disagree.
- Anyways, if you need help with anything, or you need to set the record straight over anything, feel free to contact me.
- But from herin, I'm going to start telling the truth. The FA community should know what they have signed up for.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:38
- Gaël Honorez
- sure, an honest and unbiased view.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:38
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- It will strive to be.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:39
- Gaël Honorez
- also, they know what you did, taking over the page for a personal ranting, making me lose tons of time in the process
- I can tell you that not a lot of people like that
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:41
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- It wasn't personal ranting. Did I personally rant? No. I asked a VERY LEGITIMATE question. That page is the ONLY card I have to play. WHY!? Did you think I played that card?
- You blame me for this. Oh hell yeah did I overreat? Yes, but I can't outhink my way out of this.
- I'm mad for a good reason.
- And it crossed a red line.
- And all my reasons are good.
- So this is my offer.
- I give yiou the faf book page
- you unban me
- I STFU, gyaurantored by a perma ban
- i.e i fuck up you kill me no questions
- BUT
- exivo goes as mod
- thats a VERY good deal.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:45
- Gaël Honorez
- thing is, I didn't choose exivo as a mod.
- that's gone through a process in the moderator forum
- with every mod (but me, I don't manage the mods, it's annoy me) voting for
- things that goes for :
- - exivo was a (good) mod on GPGNET
- - he speaks slovenian, english, german and russian
- - he is online early in the morning
- the cons was that Luxun banned him from a tourney without clear proofs
- the only crime was that he create a second account as point
- as you did
- as 90% of FAF did at some point.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:48
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- no
- he openly boasted of creating multiple accounts and didnt disclose his identity
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:48
- Gaël Honorez
- you didn't create a second account when your computer was broken ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:48
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I openly told most people who I was
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:49
- Gaël Honorez
- ye
- s
- that's true
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:49
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- it's still broken and it costs me points but i went back to my main account.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:49
- Gaël Honorez
- and that was that account was banned
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:49
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- he was implicated in hacks
- strongly
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:49
- Gaël Honorez
- no proof
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:49
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- AND IMO which i could never prove
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:49
- Gaël Honorez
- I did some tests
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:49
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- uber was is on it
- but
- I never went that far
- I couldnt prove it
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:49
- Gaël Honorez
- and I don't think he cheated at all
- because I was able to do the same things he did after he explained me how
- in 10 test games
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:50
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- a person inside faf and i tested them
- and they exist
- and i was told they were coded out
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:50
- Gaël Honorez
- by the way, not losing a single engy from a bomber first since that
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:50
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- and i went well hey its beta, we're meant to break faf and fa
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:51
- Gaël Honorez
- yes
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:51
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- so he may have cheated in ranked. i dont know what was said to you and what you, know, but its all need to know basis
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:51
- Gaël Honorez
- some cheat exists
- fact is
- it's a simple console command
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:51
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- but ive not been informed of any of this
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:51
- Gaël Honorez
- try it now, you will see what happens
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:51
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- but making a person openly implacted
- in using this to cheat
- in a money tourny
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:51
- Gaël Honorez
- I did the tests after these anti-chea measures where taken
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:51
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- without disclosing who they are
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:51
- Gaël Honorez
- also, he was kicked out of the tourney
- that's luxun fault
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:52
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- look i dont even mind him personally
- but you dont give a drunk the keys to your car
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:52
- Gaël Honorez
- I told me in the invitational tourney that he was using a proxy
- him
- and he still accepted him
- to complain after 4 rounds...
- in fact
- you knew he was using a proxy for a single reason
- I told you
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:53
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- i said what i had to say regarding the behaviour itself at the time. that was a statement. but we are talking about a situation where tag seem to be running the whole development team
- and where there is open discontent amongst the other ranked players
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:53
- Gaël Honorez
- I also knew who he was, but it was funny to see all these discussions about it
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:53
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- that smurfs get a free ride
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:53
- Gaël Honorez
- "it's uber !"
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:53
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- and that moderators are not only enabling this
- but facilitating it
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:54
- Gaël Honorez
- the main admins
- are gowerly and viking
- they took all the final decisions about moderations and moderators
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:54
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- true. but now, how many normal users have to pay for the fact that he openly falunted how to smurf
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:54
- Gaël Honorez
- and AFAIK, they are not tag.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:54
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- flaunted*
- perceptions. it doesnt matter who the real powers are
- it matters who the real powers appear to be
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:55
- Gaël Honorez
- also
- when they are opped
- they drop the tag clan name
- and finally
- I think it's a good decision for a main point
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:56
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yes, the average FAF user will think "TAG_Exivo" & [could = white]Exivo[/White] aren't the same person. We're all that dumb.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:56
- Gaël Honorez
- he is more "balanced" than uber
- and don't ban for any reason
- and hardly lose his temper
- and he is able to calm down uber
- (and, if you are asking, yes, we need a guy like uber as mod)
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:57
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- It's not just this as well. At the same tiem you delte the whole balance forum.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:57
- Gaël Honorez
- I don't know what happens with him for you being banned
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:57
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- and dump all balance threads in one meaningless threads
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:57
- Gaël Honorez
- and really it's not my problem
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:57
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- you've completely cut all discussion down across the board
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:57
- Gaël Honorez
- but you should talk with viking or gowerly
- or, easier
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:58
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I called him an idiot.
- in main chat
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:58
- Gaël Honorez
- PM in the forum to the group "moderators"
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:58
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- because
- he was an idiot
- hey, he shoulda kicked me
- and i overreatacted toa percieved slgiht
- but
- one cant talk on faf about faf anymore
- you cant even talk about fa now
- we cant balance chat in main
- we cant post on the forums
- and if you mouth off
- you get banned
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:59
- Gaël Honorez
- he kicked you after that or directly banned ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 21:59
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- directly banned
- cant join chat mode + b
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 21:59
- Gaël Honorez
- then you should talk to gowerly or viking about it
- the rule is to always warn, then kick, then ban
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:00
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- maybe. but, nobody can talk anywhere. uber says in chat that he misses valkyria
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:00
- Gaël Honorez
- problem is
- instead of doing that
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:00
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- and this all ignoring about what the tag guys did to cost me moderator status
- and
- I dont even bring that up.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:00
- Gaël Honorez
- you did some stupid thing by taking the whole facebook community in hostage
- and it will be hard to pledge your case now
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:00
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I did no such thing
- I asked for their opinion
- and they agreed
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:01
- Gaël Honorez
- they don't have to say anything about moderation.
- if they do
- that must be in private
- it's the same for the balance forum
- I have closed it once
- some people asked for it back
- I've re-opened it
- and in no time, it was a continuous flame war all over again
- these are not tolerated
- as long as the community is not mature enough to discuss something without turning it into a war
- there will be a heavy moderation
- FAF is not LoL or your usual starcraft forum.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:04
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- but you need to understand that people need to vent.
- What happens if you shut off all the things to another thing that's got pressure increasing inside it? (my metaphors are sub par this evening, I apologise)
- it explodes
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:05
- Gaël Honorez
- they can do it on gpg forum or whatever
- let's take an exemple
- http://www.faforever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1892&start=20
- this thing was supposed to be funny
- what chvd did was not cool
- but then, someone think he is a moderator
- and decide to tell him
- and he fight back
- what I'm supposed to do ?
- let them continue, basically "it's okay to behave like you do" ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:08
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- no
- you pass judgement
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:08
- Gaël Honorez
- or I should edit all the post, leading to a full page of "message edited" ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:08
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- you say this match was not considered even, gl try again v harder opponent
- and you say nothing personal, uit just wasnt balanced enough
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:08
- Gaël Honorez
- or I should just removed all posts and PM the guys that they should stop leading personal war in a thread that's supposed to be funny ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:09
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- you make an objective judgement as possible
- and just settle it straight up
- its really not that bad
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:09
- Gaël Honorez
- because when I do the last thing, it seems that people think of that as "fascism"
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:09
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- it just requires somebody with clear authority in regards to the issue
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:09
- Gaël Honorez
- while just editing the post is "okay"
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:09
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- make a definitive, and fair ruling
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:09
- Gaël Honorez
- and you basically tell me that I should just let them go ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:09
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- thats what moderation is about
- their decision to disagree has nothing to do with faf
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:10
- Gaël Honorez
- well
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:10
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- thats between them
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:10
- Gaël Honorez
- you are right
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:10
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- you should let [people disagree
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:10
- Gaël Honorez
- and the rules are clear and written for months
- so
- when people make fun of these rules, what should we do ?
- warn them to stop ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:10
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- just stop them before it goes beyond intellectual disagreement and before it becomes personal
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:10
- Gaël Honorez
- let them continue because it's their right ?
- what good does it make ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:10
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- its not kindergarten
- if people disagree out of personal vendetta, let them look stupid in front of the community
- if anything it stops people
- because they think "hey its okay to disagree, but then they just went stupid out of ego"
- it serves as a corrective mechanism
- and dont think im not aware of the irony of me saying that.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:12
- Gaël Honorez
- http://www.faforever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=581
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:12
- Gaël Honorez
- - Discussion of moderators' decisions in public. You can do it private chat, or send complaints to other mods (in private as well). Why? Because bringing it up in public will most likely cause a torrent of trolling and you don't want other people to get banned because of you, do you?
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:12
- Gaël Honorez
- Now
- to take your case
- yes, that ban was harsh and clearly an abuse
- now
- here is what happened
- I wake up.
- I open the forum
- and I read that in the mod forum :
- "After trying to clarify a sandbox meaning issue, he repeatedly insulted me even after a warning. Banned him for the time being."
- Do I think "it's probably a little harsh, I will remove the ban" as it was already an hour ago
- then I open the facebook page
- and see that you remove my right to post anything
- and you post a stupid vote on it
- so basically
- instead of picking your side and ask everybody to calm down about you
- I make this post : http://www.faforever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1838#p20129
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:18
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yeah well - i warned you and was pretty explicit about what options were available to me, and what my propensities are
- I have a temper
- and I told you, I didnt want more bullshit bans
- calling exivo an "diot"
- itiot
- you get me
- idiot*
- when he was actually being an idiot
- i'll do that
- i have a mouth on me
- and i expect punishment for that
- but
- these powers
- they belong to me. just as you can make any call about anything you develop
- so can i
- its like if you tried to jail rupert murdoch for sedition
- whaqt do you think would happen
- also, no emails from facebook, so you're shit out of luck there.
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:21
- Gaël Honorez
- that is a stupid way to react
- there was a proper way to do it
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:21
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- i wont eny that
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:21
- Gaël Honorez
- and I should have backed out eventually
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:21
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- qi completely overreacted
- i*
- i'll admit it pubnlically too
- its a flaw
- but
- I did it for the right reasons
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:22
- Gaël Honorez
- but now, I have zero tolerance for people messing with any part of the project
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:22
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yeah thats the complete wrong approach
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:22
- Gaël Honorez
- and you showed me that I can't trust you with that
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:22
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- i mena
- iraq...
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:23
- Gaël Honorez
- well, sorry for this stupid analogy
- hm, no
- it's not a good one
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:25
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- its okay, ive been at two seperate chicks houses all weekend
- I was surprised you tried to play for time on this one
- i called exivo an idiot
- then got banned
- then paused
- then made the post
- then got an forum PM
- then responded
- then was forum and faf bannde
- then thought, well im going out to drink now, lets see how he feels after i let the poll sit for 48 horus
- times not on your side here
- the longer it drags on, the less professional you look
- well, tbh, i wouldnt have done it if every outcome wouldnt inflict at least equal cost on you
- and 've not even gotten started, all i did was pose a question
- i love faf
- and i like you
- dont make me try
- if you think im bluffing, i can spell out every exact way how i would make life difficult for you
- and even worse
- most people would agree
- its not like i have to dip below the ethics line
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:29
- Gaël Honorez
- i should stop here
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- i just have to tell the truth
- alrioght
- yeah
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:29
- Gaël Honorez
- because I don't respond well to threats
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- look
- we'll chat in a few days
- these arent threats
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:29
- Gaël Honorez
- so if you want to come back on FAF one day..
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- i just want you to know i have leverage
- and ive not made an effort at al
- but
- anyways befoer ei let you go
- i wont go negative
- i love faf
- i love what youve done
- but
- ... well
- as i said
- don't underestimate my capcity to disagree
- capacity*
- you need to start learning how to accept and provide an outlet for feedback
- thats really the essence of the problem
- im not, nor ever will be, a sycophent
- and that is actually a measure of respect for you
- but please, don'
- dont ever misinterpret that as disrepsect
- also
- protip: dont advertise you're trying to counter my page with yours
- posting on the wall that youd set up a new one
- real rookie mistake
- you couldve slipped under the radar
- slipped*
- now youve just warned me that i need to hedge my bets
- and im going to. i simply can outcompete you on time. I was a freelance journalist, I'll just outdeliver on content
- these arent threats
- this is just exactly what im going to do
- im telling you up front because i respect you
- i donht mean this offesnively - but you trying to outcompete with an alternate faf page is like me trying to set up another fa client
- Gaël Honorez
- 16/09/2012 22:40
- Gaël Honorez
- oh you can try
- I would be happy that you succeed
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 22:41
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- oh noes our competiton to deliver the best content wil only tear the community apart ... said no one ever.
- well anyways. im going to get drnk and listen to 3rd eye blind
- i have no doubt we'll talk soon
- also
- this is a great read
- http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince00.htm
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/09/2012 23:13
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- but you know zep
- http://youtu.be/maAyfcO-X3k
- 18 September 2012
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 18/09/2012 11:35
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I could not help but notice some striking resemblances between our two pages.
- 6 November 2012
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:11
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- tut
- Ive been quite kind regarding everything
- but spreading lies about me? its generally uncalled for
- so, its up to you, I never tried to kill FAF
- I never even came close
- so you can ignore me - but you need to understand that you are acting like a child. I have a decent understanding of how I was able to evade your bans - yet I wont take advantage of it
- but
- it is deeply unfair of you to demonise me
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:15
- Gaël Honorez
- You hijack the main public advert page for faf.
- Give it back.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:15
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- so. you have two options. stop your bullshit or I will simply start expressing my opinion.
- hijack?
- I MADE it
- its exactly like valkyria accusing you of hijacking of fa
- did you not notice me pulling punches
- EVERY time
- then you delete my forum account
- and everything Ive ever written on there
- you are being a child
- and why? because I told you an opinion
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:18
- Gaël Honorez
- Give it back.
- Im sick off it.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:18
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- it was never yours
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:19
- Gaël Honorez
- Im done with it.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:19
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- good for you. I wanted to be a friend to you
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:19
- Gaël Honorez
- You use it for your personal tante.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:19
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- would you like to see what an enemy i can be?
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:19
- Gaël Honorez
- Rants
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:19
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- show me one exaple
- show me one
- and no its not my personal aunt
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:20
- Gaël Honorez
- Why is it that the smurfing rules are only applied selectively? Do you think it's fair that higher ranked players are allowed to get away with such blatant disregard for the rules?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:21
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Is it ? why do only the rich get multiple accounts
- do you want the leaderboard like faf where the top 50 are the same ten people?
- like gpgnet*
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:22
- Gaël Honorez
- I don't care.
- Give the page back.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:22
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- You NEVER owned it
- I made it for the community
- 1 second
- I have 4 times the user base you do
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:23
- Gaël Honorez
- Give it back.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:24
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- you never owned it, nor would you know what to do with it if I *gave* it to you
- get over your ego
- I dont care about the chat ban
- I dont know how I could get back in
- I dont care
- I just enjoyed talking about the game and helping some newbs for alittle while
- I'm keeping the community engaged
- well i was
- I thought I could rely on you to help
- but I know, if I give it back, you will destroy it, just because you want to make this a power play
- tell me its not true
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:27
- Gaël Honorez
- You don't give me any choice.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:28
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I believe gave you the choice time & time & time again
- I gave*
- its you who gave me no choice
- and even when you put me in the absurd position of you delcaring war on your marketing dept. I still stayed my hand
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:29
- Gaël Honorez
- Oh
- You don't understand the situation.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- no you banned me
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:29
- Gaël Honorez
- I will close FAF until you gave me the page back.
- You want to alienate the community, your choice.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- then i will post this, and the community will be the judge
- why would you be so spiteful
- just to get at me
- ?
- its absurd
- so you are bluffin
- I know you are sick of the criticism
- I know you are tired
- I dont want to make it harder on you
- so why do you keep forcing my hand?
- im willing to sit quietly and play games and leave it all well enough alone
- but then voodoo tells me you were going to close faf because of me? Dont be stupid
- I wouldve given you the page as soon as I was sure you would let me keep using it to promote FAF
- no?
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:36
- Gaël Honorez
- I'm not bluffing
- it's done.
- I'm already stopped developping FAF because of you
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:37
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- no you havent
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:37
- Gaël Honorez
- You can't imagine how your little play is affecting me and my willing to continue with FAF.
- I don't care anymore to be honest. Thanks to you.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:37
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- no
- you are being petulant
- dont blame it on me
- and if you do, youre a fool
- Ive spent months reworking the source ode
- and you view *me* as the enemy
- okay
- man to man
- are you really that tired of the project?
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:40
- Gaël Honorez
- Don't tell me how I feel please.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:40
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I dont recall doing so
- Forget our bullshit
- dude, are you okay?
- im drawing a line underneath profession v personal - are you okay?
- it doesnt seem like it
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 21:43
- Gaël Honorez
- No, I'm sick of your behavior.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 21:43
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- My behaviour? Ive been disappeared for 3 months.
- And I've been good to you. I could've really dragged you over the coals
- and I know youre not so stupid as to not know it.
- You made some bad calls and you got criticised y *me* for it
- by*
- nobody gives a damn what I think anyway
- wow
- ou really did it
- fine.
- you win.
- you get it back
- now what?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:02
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- this is what I will post
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:02
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- "as I understand you all want to get back to playing FA. I (Anaryl) was appointed a Community Manager around the beginning of the year. I created this page as a place where we could share FAF related media in social media context (i.e pump FAF related content to our FB newsfeeds) Three months ago Zep and I disagreed over a decision he made, and I still stand by that disagreement. However, for some reason the situation seems to have boiled over today. Zep has forced my hand by denying access to FAF to everyone unless I hand over control of this page.
- I was unaware that this was causing so much distress to him, so I apologise to him and to the community, whom I have endeavoured to engage, expand and educate.
- That said, it hurts me that I am accused of "taking over" or manipulating the page. It has from its conception been my creation. It has always focused on providing the best content, and in the past month, and without any assistance been rather lacklustre, I apologise. It was never my intent to damage to the community, and this page has always focused on engaging the community.
- However, we have reached a point where Zep has seen fit to hold the community to ransom & I cannot conscionably resist such an action.
- This page will be handed to the control of the FAF administration as soon as I receive assurances as such.
- Regards,
- Your friend and humble narrator
- Anaryl"
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:03
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- what do you think?
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:03
- Gaël Honorez
- Do whatever you want
- I won't restart the server until I got the page back.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:05
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- zep
- Im older and wiser than you are
- restart the server
- I'm being your friend
- dont force me to be your adversary
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:06
- Gaël Honorez
- What don't you understand in my request ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:06
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I havent done anything to deserve this
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:06
- Gaël Honorez
- It's pretty simple : Give back the page.
- It's not your project, you own nothing in it
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:06
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- or you pull the trigger of the gun youve ponted to *your* head
- yes I get it
- I have nothing to lose here
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:07
- Gaël Honorez
- I don't know why you think you do, but you don't.
- me neither.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:07
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- its your bloody project
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:07
- Gaël Honorez
- and ?
- I stop paying the server
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:07
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- im trying to help you make this look not ugly
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:07
- Gaël Honorez
- get rid of the whole thing
- and continue my life
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:07
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Im trying to help you from looking like an unprofessional idiot
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:07
- Gaël Honorez
- without having to worry about it
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:08
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- then how do I know you arent just going to do that anyway
- I actually *care* about the community
- you dont seem to
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:08
- Gaël Honorez
- If you care, give back the page.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:08
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- seem to, who am I kidding, YOU DONT
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:08
- Gaël Honorez
- Stop alienating the community
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:09
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- thats what I'm doing
- thats totally what *I* am doing
- Im offering you an olive branch
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:17
- Gaël Honorez
- You give me the page back ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:20
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- FAF first
- or I go to bed
- fuck
- I have half a mind to just spite you
- Im not seeing any login-ness
- im waiting on you
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:26
- Gaël Honorez
- I dont think you get how it goes
- you give the pqge
- page, and I remove the message.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:27
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- i dont care about the message
- Youve blackened my name enough
- I have these chatlogs
- YOU are the one who is destroying the community
- so
- You give the community, the keys, if you will, to toe
- and you get the page
- and you, personally, go on a fuking holiday or something
- OR
- I go to bed
- and FAF dies
- youre going to hard ban me anyway
- the only thing that changes is that other people get ot play faf
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:36
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- its up to you now
- everyone is waiting on you
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:37
- Gaël Honorez
- So I guess FAF will die.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:38
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- so it was never really about the page, was it?
- well why we're here
- whilst we're here*
- what is bohtering you dude?
- why all this, why now?
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 22:39
- Gaël Honorez
- it is about the page.
- You give it back
- there is no negociation.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 22:39
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- if i was an idiot, I'd believe you
- zep
- cmon man
- Im reaching out to you here, im not going to use whatever personal bullshit you have going on against you
- but this is insane
- am i right in that, if i give you the page, iim still going to get uberbanned?
- i mean, what set this off?
- why now?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 23:04
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- ...
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 23:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Dear Gael Honorez,
- On the behalf of Rohan Kirkpatrick, we are demanding that you CEASE AND DESIST all defamatory actions and relinquish all claims to his intellectual property. Under Australian law claiming that a person engaged, or has engaged in behaviour that is demonstrably untrue is considered defamation.
- The publication of any false imputation concerning a person, or a member of his family, whether living or dead, by which (a) the reputation of that person is likely to be injured or (b) he is likely to be injured in his profession or trade or (c) other persons are likely to be induced to shun, avoid, ridicule or despise him.
- Publication of defamatory matter can be by (a) spoken words or audible sound or (b) words intended to be read by sight or touch or (c) signs, signals, gestures or visible representations, and must be done to a person other than the person defamed.
- Furthermore Section 416 of the Criminal Code states: 416. Any person who, with intent to extort or gain any property or benefit or the performance of services from a person-
- (a) accuses or threatens to accuse any person of committing any indictable offence, or offering or making any solicitation or threat to any person as an inducement to commit or permit the commission of any indictable offence; or (b) threatens that any person shall be accused by any other person of any indictable offence or any such acts; or (c) Knowing of the contents of the document, causes any person to receive any document containing any such accusation or threat as aforesaid is guilty of an offence.
- The Maximum penalty for the offence of Blackmail, Demand property with menace and Extortion by threats may be life imprisonment depending on the circumstances of the charges.
- Mr. Honorez, you are hereby required to required to cease all harassment of Mr. Kirkpatrick, defamatory, blackmail or otherwise or face legal action within 14 days of receipt of this communication.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 23:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Would you like me to forward a copy of that to your email
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 23:39
- Gaël Honorez
- Oh my god you are so stupid.
- even more than I though.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 06/11/2012 23:40
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Oh so I got your attention.
- and pot calling the kettle black?
- YOu are in violation of Australian law
- I trust you will remove my names,and relinquish all claims to my intellectual proeprty
- I've decided to stop being nice.
- It's up to you how much damage you want to do to yourself
- so are you going to unlock FAF?
- ...
- wake up!
- Gaël Honorez
- 06/11/2012 23:45
- Gaël Honorez
- I will unlock it when you gave the page back
- I though it was clear.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 07/11/2012 00:40
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- youve had the page for hours?
- Gaël Honorez
- 07/11/2012 00:41
- Gaël Honorez
- I can't even post on it
- Gaël Honorez
- 07/11/2012 00:50
- Gaël Honorez
- You probably need to unban me first
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 07/11/2012 00:51
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- i unbanned you ages ago
- no
- its doing that thing again
- whats your fb email
- i tini i did anyways
- just send me your damn email
- Gaël Honorez
- 07/11/2012 00:51
- Gaël Honorez
- wait
- checking
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 07/11/2012 00:58
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- okay
- its done
- so
- all the youtube videos come into the youtube tab
- but you have to post them manually if you want to push them to users feed
- its a pretty useless app
- you can code add ons in python
- I was working on a replay uploader using the dropbox api
- but im a shitty coder
- so it didnt get done
- the users love polls
- so give em one a week or so
- ou wont get heaps of responses
- but you will get heaps of views
- and as much as you hate to hear it
- but they controversy
- something like 2 and a half thousand people viewed that post regarding exivo
- so feed em a bit of meat now and then
- but the truth is. you suck at PR
- you just made both of us look like dicks
- and only one of us deserved it
- you can ban me from faf
- but ill find my eway back in
- or you can leave things how they were 6 hours ag, and well things will be ow they were 6 hours ago
- im still puzzled why you did all this
- Gaël Honorez
- 07/11/2012 01:05
- Gaël Honorez
- Thanks.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 07/11/2012 01:05
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- seriously hotugh
- is everything okay?
- Gaël Honorez
- 07/11/2012 01:05
- Gaël Honorez
- I believe Scruffy unbanned you.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 07/11/2012 01:05
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- how considerate
- Gaël Honorez
- 07/11/2012 01:05
- Gaël Honorez
- as promised, I remove the FAF ban too.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 07/11/2012 01:05
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- i wouldve given you the page otnight if youd asked nicely
- but
- thank you for magnamoius
- and also
- this shouldve been fixed a couple of hours ago
- but it was my fault
- i couldve sowrn i unbanned you
- aywya
- ill will agree to a cover story that it was a miscommunication
- that got out of hand
- and feel free to blame it on my drunkeneess
- 9 November 2012
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 09/11/2012 00:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- voodoo unbanned the wrong PC btw.
- well, the one that doesnt matter a whole lot
- 2 December 2012
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 22:35
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I'm afraid to ask: but why do you insist on stifling discussion?
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:13
- Gaël Honorez
- There is a place for discussions about the balance points. If you don't like them but have no arguments other than "it's stupid", then just vote no.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:13
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- and sheppard?
- he has no place on balance, its just ego to him
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:13
- Gaël Honorez
- ?
- People voted for him.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:14
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- he scored 40 neg to 27 affirm, whyd you give him a pass
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:14
- Gaël Honorez
- Ah yes sorry, I've always put the Yes option first
- don't know why the no was first on that one
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:15
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- you have to admit, that scathis stuff was pretty tight.
- that took at least an hour
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:16
- Gaël Honorez
- The scathis thread is locked
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:16
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yeah
- well
- I see your point
- but you have to let them aruge it out
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:16
- Gaël Honorez
- I still see people fighting over random numbers and not facts
- and finally fighting against each others
- I can't allow that
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:17
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- why not?
- its letss work for you
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:17
- Gaël Honorez
- Because I don't want FAF to become a place where it's okay to insult people and be stupid.
- I know it's common on internet, but that's not an excuse to accept it
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:21
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- it just seems that its okay for some people and not for others
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:21
- Gaël Honorez
- it's the same for everyone
- that thread, and the V threads
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:22
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- you know hypothetically speaking, if i were to start posting on the forums again, hypothetically, i wouldnt tell you, to avoid any comfortable accusation
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:22
- Gaël Honorez
- were going on for 2 pages without nothing constructive
- that's why they were closed
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:22
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- ugh yeah
- nah thats fair enough
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:22
- Gaël Honorez
- it's not because of the people involved
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:22
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- is it true theres a vm workaround btw?
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:23
- Gaël Honorez
- but the amount of siliness per page
- no idea
- probably
- I could counter it but I don't have time to play that game
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:23
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- so much effort for no reward, these kids need jobs
- tbh let them, if a pretty number means so much o them
- its not like people dont figure it out quickly enough
- apparently deathly has a new smurf btw
- going by namo
- although i kinda think its exivo again
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:25
- Gaël Honorez
- the stupid thing is
- unless they are fighting against themselves
- and only for some extend
- their rating, in the end, will be fairly similar
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:26
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- they take i out on you
- true, but only you get the blame in the end
- "for letting it happen"
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:26
- Gaël Honorez
- in the case of V, I guess it's only to be able to join some game where she is not wanted anymore
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:27
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yeah but i watch aeolus, for ever smurf think accuses ppl of, another 9 are just legit playyers
- thats why i give him so much shit
- keep calling ppl smurfs and one of them is bound to be
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:29
- Gaël Honorez
- I think most of the players are legit players
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- remember, you have the fafbok now, dont bother with the forums
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:29
- Gaël Honorez
- also, people are calling smurf people using "Ze_PilOt_" and "Ze_PilOt" accounts
- I don't think they've understood the concept behind
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- you can talk to about 2k ppl with that thing
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:30
- Gaël Honorez
- but all their rating are similar
- and you know who it is
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:30
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- the forums, youre talking about 30 - 40 people
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:30
- Gaël Honorez
- it's not smurfing if you know who the guy is
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:30
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hahaha
- half the smurfs are "legit" i.e deathly, funk or chariot
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:30
- Gaël Honorez
- and most of the time they've asked me first
- (like luxun, he was in his vacation spot)
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:32
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- you can understand why ppl would be pissed about lu xun though, he had like 5 spots in the top 20 back on gpgnet, and ppl want and to be fair earnt those spots
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:32
- Gaël Honorez
- At some point they will release that their score is the same as the original account
- because unlike Elo, trueskill is not sensible to score inflation
- and they will maybe stop doing it
- realize
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:32
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- well it is, in a very basic sense
- scores will inflate as you get more noobies
- ive been watching the ladder
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:33
- Gaël Honorez
- hm
- statistically speaking
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:33
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- its just not inflating at the top
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:33
- Gaël Honorez
- they can inflate if the average level is going up
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:33
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- well yeah, its not true "inflation"
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:34
- Gaël Honorez
- so more (real) noob will actually lower the ratings
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:34
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- its just going up at the belt
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:34
- Gaël Honorez
- yeps
- I've tested it myself
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:34
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- well, speaking as someone from the trehes, 1800 is not what it used to be
- trenches*
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:35
- Gaël Honorez
- I've made an account, and after 25 games, I've started stagnating at the same level as my other account with hundred of games
- in the early day
- one guy was playing against himself
- he actually manage to go higher than his original account doing that
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:35
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- ha i always wated to try that
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:36
- Gaël Honorez
- but I'm fairly sure that his score would have decreased a lot after some real games
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:36
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- just to see who would win xD
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:36
- Gaël Honorez
- with no chances of doing it again as the other account was starting to be too low
- originally, the "no smurf" rule is there because the minimal number of account by player was 5
- while it's not a problem server-wise, it's a problem with stuff like replay vault, ...
- where you can't follow one player easily
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:38
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- btw
- did you see ubers balance proposal
- wtf is with that shit
- Gaël Honorez
- 02/12/2012 23:41
- Gaël Honorez
- he does what he wants. People will just vote no
- I'm actually for that kind of change, but not like that
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 02/12/2012 23:44
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yeah im all for what he wants
- well, for what he says he wants
- yu know i dont trust that guy
- he advertises LoL too much
- 16 December 2012
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/12/2012 02:55
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- seriously man, wtf did i do now
- Im getting some pretty trigger happy bans lately
- 27 December 2012
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 01:36
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- ... so are you going to end my ban? I'm getting kinda jack of you guys antagonising me for the fun of it
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 01:39
- Gaël Honorez
- Send a pm to the moderation group
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 01:40
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- You deactivated my forum account...
- and I talked to Squirrel about this.
- and "- Anaryl had numerous warnings before (my apologies to root2342, shouldn't have been so hard on him)
- - banned."
- the fuck is this about?
- maybe you shouldnt be so hard on on me hmm?
- or was that just another spit in the face?
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 01:48
- Gaël Honorez
- no idea, I don't follow moderation discussions.
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 01:54
- Gaël Honorez
- talking about drugs in a game chat is probably not the best way to not be banned
- I'm reactivating your account so you can pm them
- 27 December 2012
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 08:17
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- its done
- look
- I did you a favour
- Im still copping shit for it
- I get abused in game
- I get kicked from team games
- and its all because you chucked a spat over the facebook page
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 08:19
- Gaël Honorez
- Contact the admin for that, it cant be tolerated.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 08:19
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- cant be tolerated?
- drug talk?
- we were talking about john mcafee
- about how he went off the planet
- lets make no bones of this, your mods have it in for me
- because of what you told them
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 08:21
- Gaël Honorez
- I mean the abuses.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 08:21
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- now I was of the understanding that in regards to that, as long as I kept my mouth shut about what really happened, you would all stop picking on me
- abuses?
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 08:22
- Gaël Honorez
- "Im still copping shit for it
- I get abused in game"
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 08:22
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- oh yeha
- look, I just have thicker skin than that
- If you arent getting criticised, you arent doing it right
- but the thing is, Im getting criticised for something I did
- I didnt do
- and lets face it, youve never kept ANY of your promises to me
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 08:29
- Gaël Honorez
- ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 08:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yeah I'm not surprised you dont remember
- You never promised much, I never asked for it, but the fact that you never delivered on it makes me sad. I never asked for much.
- and what little you offered you never delivered
- btw if youre going to delete a whoel subforum, give me a heads up, if I write something, I want to keep it
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 08:41
- Gaël Honorez
- nothing is deleted
- just hidden when there is no purpose to it
- and I've got hundred of questions/requests/messages every week, so yes, I forgot most of them if they are in a chat.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 08:44
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Im not talking about chat requests, where Im like "hey zep plz dont fuck me on this"
- I'm talking about times were youve promised me alittle bit of standing or to get uber off my ass, or whatever
- youve never even given me a lousy fuckin avatar
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 08:47
- Gaël Honorez
- If you follow the forum, you will see that every avatar is on hold until I have time to code a better system to upload them.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 08:48
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- sure, youll give uber an av, exivo an av, but me who sits there and would cop shit for you every day, complete your challenges which you would undermine, purely because you what you dont like me? or what?
- I swat there in that tech forum, and in aeolus, doing nothing but uni work and tech support for faf
- not one ounce of recognition
- and you guys ban me over nothing, time and time again
- and for the record
- exivo is an idiot
- him and uber, I swear they are actual physical retards
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 08:53
- Gaël Honorez
- it's not them that banned you, and you were both (you and rootbeer) banned after that discussion.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 08:54
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yeah, but this isnt 1980, youre so covered under DCMA
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 08:54
- Gaël Honorez
- and a lot of people are waiting for your avatar
- stop thinking you are special
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 08:55
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I dont think that, I think I'm a guy who was willing, and is still willing to help who you keep fucking around
- You fucked me remember
- that was my work you stole
- and I shut the fuck up
- stop thinking Ill keep eating your shit
- if you were my employer, I'd have sued the shit out of you by now
- the only reason Im still here talking to you is because I actually care about the game
- FA is still the best RTS out there
- we still have 2 yrs/18 mths till PA comes out
- if you do well, you might get a job with uberent
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 08:58
- Gaël Honorez
- I have a job
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 08:58
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- but if PA sucks, (like SC2) then theres stil no place for us all to go
- ...
- when i was volunteering with gpg so did I
- when Im working with faf, also had a job
- im not sure what message youre getting out of this convo
- but what im trying to say is, stop spitting in my face
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:01
- Gaël Honorez
- !?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:01
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- your whole team is unfairly hard on me
- and given the grunt work i do for you, I'm saying its unfair
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:01
- Gaël Honorez
- It's not my fault if you did a great job at antagonising every one of them
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:01
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- no
- they started on me
- I just give as good as i get
- like you do
- I just cant ban
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:02
- Gaël Honorez
- and to do that with gowerly and/or LD, you did it good
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:02
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- thats the only diff
- oh FUCK LD
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:02
- Gaël Honorez
- I don't know what your discussion about drug was
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:02
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- LD pretended he was a girl for 6 months on gpgnet
- we were talking about john mcafee
- who went of the rales
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:02
- Gaël Honorez
- I saw some screenshot of you and rootbeer talking about what drugs you like to use
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:03
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- (yes that mcafee)
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:03
- Gaël Honorez
- That's not something that can be tolerated.
- illegal or not, it's a GAME lobby.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:03
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I was saying that you cant get E anymore
- but the convo was the john mcafee (yes of AV fame) went off the rails
- then squirrel came on and it was ban
- i didnt even know
- it was "no hey dont talk about that" it was just hey no chat may need to relog oh im banned
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:04
- Gaël Honorez
- it wasn't the first time you had a warning about that.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:04
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- if you guys warn me i will stuf
- stfu*
- yes but conversatio0ns drift
- thats what convo is about
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:05
- Gaël Honorez
- on Thu Nov 22
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:05
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- and it was 5pm aus time, theres never anyone on
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:05
- Gaël Honorez
- Uber warned you
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:05
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- uber wasnt there
- nobody warned me
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:05
- Gaël Honorez
- so why does I have screenshot of him asking you to stop ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:05
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- ive been on my best behaviour
- show me
- because its bullshit
- not saying you are
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:06
- Gaël Honorez
- I DONT DEAL WITH MODERATION
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:06
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- just saying the shot is
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:06
- Gaël Honorez
- PM them if you want more explanations !
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:06
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I DID!
- Squirrel was the only mod on
- and he said coz of drugs
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:06
- Gaël Honorez
- the shots are in the mod section, I don't have time to reupload them elsewhere
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:06
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I apoligised
- and said it wouldnt happen again
- and he never replied
- and NOW im talking about it to you
- after I saw that post in the admin actions thread and got the shits
- I gave it a month
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:08
- Gaël Honorez
- oh god
- http://uppix.net/4/d/3/e3ca74994d0eb28116e7b47572ebf.png
- http://uppix.net/4/d/3/e3ca74994d0eb28116e7b47572ebf.png
- uppix.net
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:08
- Gaël Honorez
- and now don't tell me you wasn't warn
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:08
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Thats not even remotely the incedent in questionj
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:08
- Gaël Honorez
- but still did it for three nights in a row
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:08
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- incident
- no I did stop
- that time
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:08
- Gaël Honorez
- Of course it's not
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:09
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- that was in nov
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:09
- Gaël Honorez
- that was the warning.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:09
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- so if i get a warning 2 months ago
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:09
- Gaël Honorez
- the second night no mod was online, but uber got log, no action taken
- the third night, you were banned with rootbeer.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:09
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- and a convo drifts to drugs
- I get banned
- ?
- \that wasnt the third night
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:09
- Gaël Honorez
- I don't care
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:10
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- that was at leask multiple weeks later
- look
- I dont want to have to talk to you abot this
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:10
- Gaël Honorez
- You were aware that talking of drugs in the chat was not tolerated
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:10
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I like talking to you
- i want to help faf
- but it seems if your admin team doest like someone (no matter how much they help) you ban thenm
- talking about balance in chat isnt allowed by the rules either
- the rules seem to be applied selectively
- and for the record
- I'm a drug legalisation advocate in my country
- Im willing to shut up about it (given immediate warning) no matter how offensive i find it
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:12
- Gaël Honorez
- ok
- for the last time
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:12
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Im not getting into this tit for tat BS
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:12
- Gaël Honorez
- it's not about legality
- it's about the fact that it's a game forum
- and a game chat
- not a public forum about public concern
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:13
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Hey if RS had said "NO DRUG TALK" I woulda said "OK"
- but he just insta banned
- and thats not fair
- especially given how everytime I had STFU'd everytime any one trollbaited me
- or brought up the facebook thing
- the only leniency I want is the same I gave
- I was on my best behaviour
- and yet none of the admins acknowledged that
- thats my beef
- I said to myself, alright keep my head down
- and I musta been aked 100 times, yet everytime i said "its not up for discussion"
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:15
- Gaël Honorez
- Well, open a discussion in PM with the moderators group
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:15
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I did
- no reply
- why would I be here
- Im sorry
- I dont want to put this on ypu
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:15
- Gaël Honorez
- gowerly and viking are the admins
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:15
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I want to help faf, not harm it
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:15
- Gaël Honorez
- and they are in vacation
- can take some time
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:16
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Yeah, I used to work as a sales executive
- that tactic is called "relegating to a higher power"
- it would work if I didnt know that you had the power to change it
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:18
- Gaël Honorez
- power != time
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:19
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- argh dude I can script IRC, stop treatnig me like a dumbass
- I can get around the ban RIGHT now
- I just dont want to
- cant you see I just want some respect from you
- not much
- just a little respect
- alright forget
- will FAF support Flash
- in regards to GW
- ?
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:30
- Gaël Honorez
- What do you talk about ?
- it's not time to remove the ban, that's not the problem
- it's about explaining ang arguying with you and the mod team
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:32
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- why do you need to justify yourself to them? You should be aware that FAF has no marketing dept.
- do you have anyone else working marketing
- or for that matter tech support?
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:33
- Gaël Honorez
- because they are in charge of moderation, not me
- you talk about respect, that's exactly about that.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:33
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Youre rellegating to that higher power again
- Yes, it is
- Im not going to say Im perfect, who could claim that
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:34
- Gaël Honorez
- ok, I have to leave now, sorry
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:34
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- All I'm claiming is that I've proved my worth
- alright, auf wiedersahm
- btw if FAF is compatible with flash I can get some people for GW
- let me know if thats a go
- Gaël Honorez
- 27/12/2012 09:41
- Gaël Honorez
- (by the way it won't be flash, probably openGL)
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/12/2012 09:47
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- sigh there goes 72 hours
- alright
- well I wanna help dude
- I just dun wanna be fucked again
- 31 January 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 31/01/2013 05:09
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hey sup
- I got a coupon from fb for promoting the facebook page
- ill fwd you the email if you want it
- 50 bucks free advertising
- 31 January 2013
- Gaël Honorez
- 31/01/2013 20:54
- Gaël Honorez
- sorry didn't see your message with all the server problems
- that's nice but if there is no time limit, I would be better to wait for advertise Galatic War, I will have more impact I think
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 31/01/2013 20:58
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- well i figured youd wait
- Gaël Honorez
- 31/01/2013 21:12
- Gaël Honorez
- I can even inspect the facebook API to make a little app (that display your rank, your conquers,....)
- viral marketing can maybe works
- what do you think ?
- 16 May 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 16/05/2013 10:05
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hey man
- not sure if you got the link, but i designed a sister site to the faf book page..
- you can have it if you lie, im a bt too busy t have to many projects going at once atm
- https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheVaultbook/
- 1 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 01/07/2013 01:55
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- zep
- where have you been
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 01/07/2013 04:07
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- dude
- you might wanna log in, just for show
- youvenot been around all week
- 1 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 01/07/2013 07:46
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hey man the FAF server is down
- can you rebot
- ou should come by and sa by, people are woried about you
- is everything okay
- ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 01/07/2013 08:14
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- - no i said i sent him a msg on fb
- so you gonna reboot the server man
- 9 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 09/07/2013 13:50
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hola zep - the chat server is down - seems everything else is runnning okay
- just giving you the heads up
- 15 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 15/07/2013 06:46
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hey not sure if you are around or not
- but
- http://www.faforever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=4471
- theres an issue with GW not launching - as far as i can tell for all players
- just a heads up
- 15 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 15/07/2013 14:53
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- http://www.faforever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=4474
- - reinforcements dont seem to be showing up
- 17 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 17/07/2013 12:25
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- another quick notice - aeolus is down - something about no ones nicks are registered i believe
- also i dont suppose you could rez my avatar again itcontrived to get itself killed during testing
- 23 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 23/07/2013 08:06
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hey zep
- faf server is down atm
- just neesd a restart im told
- 24 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 24/07/2013 15:50
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hey, i think we may have a security breach on faf - msg me back when you get this
- Gaël Honorez
- 24/07/2013 15:54
- Gaël Honorez
- ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 24/07/2013 16:08
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- what kinda logs/records do you keep of players online times?
- Gaël Honorez
- 24/07/2013 16:08
- Gaël Honorez
- none
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 24/07/2013 16:08
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- when you get some timewould just like to run a test game with you
- Gaël Honorez
- 24/07/2013 16:10
- Gaël Honorez
- would be easier if you just tell what you think is happening
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 24/07/2013 16:13
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- a couple of things
- just been experimenting with seeing if faf or fa exposed vulneribilities
- and also i the second oen is i think people are using the casting system for ghosting
- Gaël Honorez
- 24/07/2013 16:15
- Gaël Honorez
- nothing I can do about that
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 24/07/2013 16:16
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- either?
- Gaël Honorez
- 24/07/2013 16:17
- Gaël Honorez
- the first issue is vague
- but yes, FA can be abused a lot
- can't do a lot about it
- and second, I can't close twitch.tv.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 24/07/2013 16:19
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- ofc not - but we could correlate presence of obs in games, with users in mumble right?
- Gaël Honorez
- 24/07/2013 16:21
- Gaël Honorez
- yes
- or people can do that
- and refuse to play games with observers?
- there is a livereplay system
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 24/07/2013 18:30
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yeah, i think i mightve been played, during the wppc last n ight
- Gaël Honorez
- 24/07/2013 18:32
- Gaël Honorez
- Not good, dont hesitate to post on the forum.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 24/07/2013 18:32
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- well i had hoped you mightve had access to logs showing whether two of the players were on mumble,
- Gaël Honorez
- 24/07/2013 19:20
- Gaël Honorez
- They can use their own teamspeak server
- or skype.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 24/07/2013 19:32
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- well it didnt trigger until today, that i recall one of them in lobby saying they were in muble with the player
- so if they were there, it would prove motive and opportunity
- 25 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 25/07/2013 16:55
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- heysorry to bother you again, so how exactly do you code new windows into opening in the pyqt faf varous uis
- and i had another idea i wanted to ask about - get back to me if you have the time
- Gaël Honorez
- 25/07/2013 17:05
- Gaël Honorez
- .show()
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 25/07/2013 17:09
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- same for buttons?
- Gaël Honorez
- 25/07/2013 17:12
- Gaël Honorez
- Every widget has that method.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 25/07/2013 17:27
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- another question
- how easy is it to plug say JS or flash ibjects into faf
- Gaël Honorez
- 25/07/2013 17:38
- Gaël Honorez
- Not possible
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 25/07/2013 17:40
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- so can you animate anything on or around the gw ma?
- map
- Gaël Honorez
- 25/07/2013 17:41
- Gaël Honorez
- It's either very small part through a webkit widget
- Or a complete rewrite, and its out of question
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 25/07/2013 17:42
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- I dont think i need too much, just simple 2d
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 25/07/2013 17:57
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- what widget webap is it?
- webkit?
- Gaël Honorez
- 25/07/2013 17:58
- Gaël Honorez
- That the engine. Qwebkit is the widget.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 25/07/2013 17:58
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- is it pckaged with pyqt or is it a separate addon
- Gaël Honorez
- 25/07/2013 18:16
- Gaël Honorez
- it's in qt
- that's how all web pages are displayed inside the lobby
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 25/07/2013 18:53
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- iv see
- thats
- good acutally
- 26 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 26/07/2013 00:11
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hows the intelligence tab coming along, or whats the focus right now.
- also a lot of people re wondering when beta is
- 29 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 29/07/2013 08:04
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- you got a problem with LD
- he's banning everyone in aeolus
- 29 July 2013
- Gaël Honorez
- 29/07/2013 18:29
- Gaël Honorez
- A bunch of racist guy that have already a long thread about them on the moderator forum. They will be perma-banned from FAF next time.
- 30 July 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 18:31
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yeah but he was starting to ban random people without warning, apparently he's been sorted out though
- anyways
- i wanted to ask you about the code for constructing the gw lobby
- /client
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 18:46
- Gaël Honorez
- Yes ?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 18:50
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- so ui objects for the clinet, say like the iet tab? where would i enter coed for that. and also what is the deal with layouts? what do they do?
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 18:53
- Gaël Honorez
- it's the UI file
- ther is no code for it, it's basically a xml file
- you can use Qt Creator to edit them
- No idea what you are referring to with "layouts"
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 18:57
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- in qt
- theres these vertical, horizontal, grid & form layout
- what about all the signals and stuff for all the buttons?
- and planet generation? whats the go there
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 18:58
- Gaël Honorez
- that's a lot of different kind of question
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 18:58
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- once ive finished or completed a draft of the code where do i submit it for review
- yeah planet generation is diff
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 18:59
- Gaël Honorez
- layout : http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/layout.html
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 18:59
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- but im looking into stuff like galaxy.py and gwlobby/gwclinet.py
- so there appears to be stuff related to that in there
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 18:59
- Gaël Honorez
- for signal and stuff : it's not really a question
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 18:59
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Iadded a few features to the intel tabs
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 18:59
- Gaël Honorez
- planet generation : nothing goes there, it's server-side.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 19:00
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- and i propose we have a "media" tab where people can post biased news reports about their faction
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 19:12
- Gaël Honorez
- it's planned
- it's the intelligence tab
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 19:13
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- well i thought this could be more for casts and stuff too
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 19:13
- Gaël Honorez
- no, it's for the RPG part of the game
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 20:39
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- okay so ihave created the intel tab layout 9if you want to look at it) but im not sure how to do a couple of thigns
- i want players to be able to post to a testdisplay
- but i dont know how to set the signal inside the qt ide
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 20:52
- Gaël Honorez
- you don't
- it's inside the python code
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 20:52
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yes which i asked before, where do i put that code - i can write it i just dont know where it goes
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 20:53
- Gaël Honorez
- check any existing code
- it's always in the init part of each widget
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 20:54
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- ive looked over a few of the pys around the client
- im not certain which :S
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 20:54
- Gaël Honorez
- self.item.pressed.connect(self.function)
- of course the method depend of the type of item
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 20:56
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- so which code, _gwlobby.py or gwchannel?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 21:04
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hree's what i had started to do (a bit of a draft) for the intel tab
- download
- galacticwar2.ui
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 21:04
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- but im not sure where ic deo what youre talking about into the source
- i had an idea that a lot of stuff could be scripted as seperate windows, e.g the galaxy map
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 21:41
- Gaël Honorez
- it's not that easy
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 21:42
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yeah i figured that much - i have to code all the functions by hand - which i can do.
- do you want me to code it as a seperate ui and then you can show me how to integerate it?
- hmm can i write this in the ui then compile it into a python file?
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 21:47
- Gaël Honorez
- you don't compile in a python file
- you load it in a python script
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 21:48
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- so i write the script by hand - or i use qt to create the python file -
- >
- a little more guidance would go a long way
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 21:50
- Gaël Honorez
- well you probably should check some pyQt tutorial
- I can't really explain how all is done
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 21:50
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- i have been
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 21:50
- Gaël Honorez
- it would be too much
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 21:50
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- i can write the code thats fine
- i think i figured out the signals in qt thing
- well just keep pointing me in the right direction would be nice
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 21:53
- Gaël Honorez
- https://bitbucket.org/thepilot/modular-client/src/7511a8fadccfa29f359a2cbc46782e781f238882/src/replays/_replayswidget.py?at=default
- look at that code
- probably the more easiest one
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 21:54
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- okay, so i have to write that kind of code to back up each page or ui i write basically? is that what you are saying? I'll go ahead and do that now then
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 21:55
- Gaël Honorez
- I'm not sure what you are trying to do exactly
- so I can't really give you a straight answer
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 22:02
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- well for the intel panes, i just want two panes were peopel can post
- (on the left)
- with a text pane under neath, a button to post it to the text viewer above
- ideallly (as i learn more) i can make it so people can rate intel
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 22:02
- Gaël Honorez
- It's mostly a client/server works
- you won't go very far
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 22:03
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- well i hoped if i coded it all, youd connect the necessary code up to the server
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 22:03
- Gaël Honorez
- connecting to the server is 99% of the work
- the interface on this case is kind of trivial
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 22:04
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yeah im just trying to save you time and work since you seem to to be focused else
- was just trying to help really and pick up some low haning fruit
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 22:05
- Gaël Honorez
- It's nice but I think it will take me more than to explain you how to do it than doing it myself
- there will probably be some interface rework to do at some point
- but it's too soon for me to tell you what exactly
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 22:05
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- well just point me to a resource that i need to learn
- ive learnt hwo to call the qt libs in python
- and simply write independent windows frmo there
- im just not sure how to work around your code
- like if i wanted to be able to crete objecs at the galaxy level from the ui how would that be done
- grahpical /pyopengl objs
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 22:08
- Gaël Honorez
- again if you don't tell me exactly what you want to do, I can't really tell you how to do it
- it's probably better than you open a thread in the contributor forum
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 22:09
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- alright
- its a shame most of my mock ups are by hand
- had hoped my gf woulda helped me with them
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 22:14
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- like for example i figured out how to sue the signals sorta in qt
- a specific question then:
- how do i get text to post from one field to another
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 22:15
- Gaël Honorez
- you probably need to connect one field with textChanged signal
- and use the setText function of the other field inside the called function
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 22:16
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- the button?
- or the () on text changed
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 22:16
- Gaël Honorez
- check the chat widget in FAF
- it does exactly that
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 22:17
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- ha i acn dissociate windows right out of the app, thats handy
- one sec
- is tha tsetText done with in the 'slot menu' on the endd there? or?
- shoujld i be using the QtextBrowser widget for this or something else to display text?
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 22:21
- Gaël Honorez
- it really depend what kind of text you want to display
- ie. the chat of FAF is using a TextBrowser because we want some html formatting
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/07/2013 22:21
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- just plain texxt ideally
- okay
- so where do i connect up the other endoof the function for setText? in a new signal or where?
- Gaël Honorez
- 30/07/2013 22:34
- Gaël Honorez
- yes
- https://bitbucket.org/thepilot/modular-client/src/7511a8fadccfa29f359a2cbc46782e781f238882/src/chat/chatlineedit.py?at=default
- self.returnPressed.connect(self.onLineEntered)
- then
- def onLineEntered(self):
- self.history.append(self.text())
- self.currentHistoryIndex = len(self.history) - 1
- 22 August 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 22/08/2013 18:25
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- uh hey man
- did you get my message about my avatar
- i know its a big ask
- but yeah would be a nice
- 23 August 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 23/08/2013 12:30
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- yo
- you around?
- 27 August 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 27/08/2013 00:04
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 3 September 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 03/09/2013 08:11
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- faf is down ??
- nvm
- 5 September 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 05/09/2013 05:13
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- so youre not going to free my account on gw? man im not sure why you are being slack to me lately
- Gaël Honorez
- 05/09/2013 05:17
- Gaël Honorez
- I'm fixing bug when they are reported
- doesn't mean the fix is online in the minute.
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 05/09/2013 05:25
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- okay no probs
- 30 September 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/09/2013 07:15
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hey most of the FAF servers are down atm
- update, and loking like statistics and some people arent able to get access at all
- nbot sure ifyouve been informed just givng you the heads up
- 30 September 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/09/2013 17:31
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hey uh the server is still down apparently
- 9 October 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 09/10/2013 09:07
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- https://cloud.telstra.com/infrastructure/virtual-servers/plans-and-pricing/express
- what do you think of that
- Gaël Honorez
- 09/10/2013 09:13
- Gaël Honorez
- looks expensive
- I will first finish the program
- then I will present the options
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 09/10/2013 09:15
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- alright
- ill dig around a bit more
- what are the server requirements
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 09/10/2013 09:26
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- wait just vps?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 09/10/2013 11:29
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- is there an app i can run on this pc to try out the proxy see hwo effective it is
- to test and stufgf
- 30 October 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/10/2013 11:30
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- we need to have a chat
- ive had a number of players absuing me in chat as Ive described to you (and in game) and Brink told me to "get over it"
- I've earned the right to not be abused and my reports to be taken seriously
- so what are you going to do about it?
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/10/2013 11:34
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 30/10/2013 11:34
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- don't make me kick and scream
- you know i can
- 17 November 2013
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 17/11/2013 23:25
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- sent you a quick pm on the forums
- have a look ad let me nw what you think
- 10 March
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 10/03/2014 11:50
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- just a quick heads up that nickserv seems to be done atm
- 17 March
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 17/03/2014 08:13
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hey zep, people are complaining 'server is down' getting server under maintenence error
- can we get a statement/eta
- 21 March
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- 21/03/2014 00:42
- Rohan Kirkpatrick
- hola zep
- game server is down/not responding again
- Seen 21 March
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