observer hotline notes KGB - way i see it - view

the...@buffnet.net
1/13/96
Decided to blow some AT&T Long Distance Gift Certificates on the
WON Hotline.
On the Bruce Mitchell option:

  1. WCW flew in Dan Severn on Friday and is trying to work out a
deal with him to come in as a major surprise on Nitro ala Madusa
& Luger. The reason why Severn is considering this deal as
opposed to the Rumble one is because WCW is waving huge sums of
money under his nose. Ideally, WCW would like to eventually have
Severn job to the Hoaxter in order to prove the Bogus One's
superiority over UFC. The chances are good that he'll come in.
(That must be a lot of money)

  2. The Sabu/Rumble deal as of the time of call (6:30 PM EST)
was off. However, Sabu did come in during the week to cut some
promos and the Slam Jam with Dok was taped with his name being
mentioned as in. One minute Sabu seems to be in, the next minute
he seems to be out. Paul E. doesn't want him in because he wants
to do a PPV with Sabu the top act and if he goes in the Rumble
and is made to look inferior to the WWF guys by not winning,
that'll hurt his stock. (Can't they work out a compromise?) Bruce
Prichard is the WWF man that's doing the negotiations to bring
him in. Go Brother Love!

  3. Sid Eudy's status with the WWF is iffy. He's not happy about
all the jobs he's done. However, WCW is not at this point
interested in him at all because of the Arn Anderson situation-
and you know Arn has some power within WCW.

  4. Antonio Inoki and Pena of EMLL had a meeting about that
multi-promotional card for March in L.A. New Japan is interested
in KGB (a Sting lookalike from EMLL).

  5. WCW probably won't sue WWF over the Raw/steroid thing
because the possible gains aren't worth doing the whole court
thing over. They'll probably seek some other form of retribution.

  6. ECW is considering suing WCW for slander as Terry Taylor
reported on the hotline that the ECW champion was a drunk and on
drugs and you just can't do something like that without at least
an eyewitness and also the fact that that's one of their
competitors that they're talking about makes it even worse for
WCW's case. (Boy they sure do get in a lot of trouble over there
with that hotline)

--

NEWS] Observer to crack down on 'kleppers'
1 post by 1 author

SyxxFan
6/29/98

I called the Observer Hotline and during the intro, good 'ol Lance Russel
stated that all the stuff on the Hotline is copywrited material and that none
of it can be re-printed without the blah, blah, blah, AND that they'll be
monitoring websites to make sure that no one is stealing from them. You know,
of course, what this spells the end of...

~~~~~

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[WWF] Titan Tower mortgaged for $5,000,000 (update)
17 posts by 9 authors

Otto Hack-Man Heuer
9/11/96

Last week there was a story (wedged in between posts on Giant turning)
about the WWF mortgaging Titan Tower for $5,000,000.  Here's another
update:
The Torch reports (from WWF's Ed Cohen) that the WWF took out a
$5,000,000 mortgage, but it was five years ago.

The 'Pipe reports that the WWF's Lee Barstow stated (on the subject of
a recent mortgage of the property) "No, absolutely not true. The WWF
paid in full for the building when it moved in three/four  years ago."

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http://www.umn.edu/nlhome/g249/heuer004              heue...@gold.tc.umn.edu
http://www.umn.edu/nlhome/g249/heuer004/WRES/wres.html          Pro-Wrestling
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PROGRAMMER PUTS SPIN ON USA NETWORKS

(Los Angeles Times, Saturday, May 9, 1998)

By Sallie Hofmeister

When Stephen Chao was in charge of developing shows for the Fox television
stations in the early '90s, he once so enraged his boss Barry Diller that
Diller hurled a videocassette tape across the room, leaving a huge gash in
the wall.

The two executives didn't speak for months, but Chao survived the
blowup--and was even promoted months later. He even convinced Diller to sign
the wall after Chao hung a frame around the scar, turning it into a work of
art that hangs in Chao's garage today, years after he was unceremoniously
fired from Fox in 1992 for hiring a stripper to perform at a company
management retreat.

Outrageous and defiant acts are among the earmarks of the 42-year-old
Harvard MBA, who revels in shaking up the establishment and who fancies
himself too cool to conform to industry conventions, much less act like a
corporate "suit."

Outspoken and opinionated, Chao is among the few Hollywood executives brazen
enough to go toe-to-toe with the abrasive Diller. And his programming
talents--he rewired prime-time economics with innovative shows such as the
fugitive docudrama, "America's Most Wanted"--are valued by Diller.

------

	gP
11/17/97

I have tried to express my total hate for Vince in a variety of post, but I
just haven't been able to get my point across until now. This dude from the
Wrestling Gazette (Everyone should subscribe) caught the essence of the true
vince. It all follows in the snip that I got below. Oh BTW when Vince gives
us this line of BULLSHIT tonight that we all know he is please don't run to
your computer and post a VINCE RULEZ or VINCE IS A GENIUS. OK? And another
thing, don't reply to this post with a bunch of dumbass comments about Eric
Bishoff, that's not the point, hes corporate scum, Vince is real live scum,
he doesn't act like scum for his job, he is scum. So take your WCW sux
comments and shove up your ass. Cuz they are next on my shitlist after Vince
finally goes down. (Not WWF just Vince) Read the whole thing below and see
if your still a lemming. I had lost hope for this generation.... but who
knows
If this doesn't convince you then you are:
Lemming 4 Life

COURTESY: WRESTLING GAZETTE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------

          For three years after the steroid trial and all the bad publicity
McMahon had worked feverably to change his legacy in the industry as not the
man who ran all the other promoters out of business not the man who marketed
pro wreslllting to young children while pushing steroid freaks and the man
who tried to destroy wrestling history and create his own, not his worked
Harvard MBA, worked billion dollar company, a man who was so vain as to give
himself a Hugh award in Madison Square Garden as "the genius who created
Wrestlemania" not the man who at one time tried to monopolize every aspect
of
the business for himself but instead as the working man's hero, coming from
humble beginnings, fighting those ruthless rich regional promotors and
through nothing but guts,gusto and vision became the dominant force in this
industry and taking it to a new level. And now against all odds the generous
friend trying to keep all the small regional promoters acknowledging the
past


~~~

VINCE THE GRADUATE?? Group: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
The McMahon family used to live in North Carolina, and in the Washington DC area before moving to the New York area. Vince obtained a bachelor's
degree in Business Administration ... anyone know where Vince went to college?? I read that he had a worked > Harvard MBA...just wondering. > > Wes.
3/12/98 by Dantony Daniels

~~~

Local, Etc. Billionaires Group: alt.sports.baseball.bos-redsox
Harvard MBA, made his > fortune last year with IPO for fiber optics Co. Sycamore ... Vince McMahon, Greenwich, CT, $1.1 billion. 55, married, 2 kids ...
10/7/00 by Anthony Mariani
Hold the Beer... Group: alt.certification.cisco
Or me getting a letter in the mail from Ed McMahon saying that I may have > already won a million dollars. ... People saw that there was a lot of easy
money > to be made, and they decided to drop what they were doing and get their > MBA's from Harvard, Columbia, or Penn/Wharton, majoring in
finance.
3/2/03 by nrf

~~~



PHIL MUSHNICK's article about Cablevision Group: alt.sports.baseball.ny-yankees
I usually despise Mushnick, especially with his comments on Vince > McMahon and the WWF, but that was good. > > << the Cleveland Indians part is ...
Seems to me they are setting up a management case for Harvard MBA classes on how *not* to run a business. Indeed, they built a big empire by ...
4/3/02 by Viceroy Of Verbiage

~~~~

Chicago Tribune on ENRON Group: misc.activism.progressive
Watkins said the company's treasurer, Jeffrey McMahon, was "highly vexed over the inherent conflicts" of Fastow's LJM deals and gave Skilling five ... An
MBA from Harvard Business School and a stint at McKinsey, the New York-based consulting firm, put Jeffrey Skilling on a business fast track.
1/20/02 by MichaelP
Chicago Tribune on ENRON Group: flora.mai-not
Watkins said the company's treasurer, Jeffrey McMahon, was "highly vexed over the inherent conflicts" of Fastow's LJM deals and gave Skilling five ... An
MBA from Harvard Business School and a stint at McKinsey, the New York-based consulting firm, put Jeffrey Skilling on a business fast track.
1/20/02 by MichaelP

~~~~

The rightwing way of running a business Group: alt.impeach.bush

~~~~

read3 Group: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Why were so many agents circling the ring and why was McMahon right there and acting so intense? ... to destroy wrestling history and create his own,
not his worked Harvard MBA, worked billion dollar company, a man who was so vain as to give himself a huge award in Madison Square Garden as "the
 ...
11/16/97 by WinterBrz
HITMANclub statement (Part 3) Group: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Jerry The Aftermath: The officials left the ring immediatley, McMahon went into his private office in the building with Patterson and a few others and ... not
his worked Harvard MBA, worked billion dollar company, a man who was so vain as to give himself a Hugh award in Madison Square Garden as "the ...
11/15/97 by Gerald F. Garland
The Future of Wrestling Group: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Let us assume, for the moment, that one of the great silver tongued smoothies of the last quarter of the 20th Century, Vince McMahon, esq., will not be
able ... Well, you don't have to: as mentioned above, it existed BEFORE Vince and WWF, and without the Harvard MBA strategic planning that made the ...
3/17/92 by David M. Bartlett

~~~~


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[HISTORY] The WAWLI Papers No. 265
1 post by 1 author

Oldfa...@aol.com
9/11/98

WRESTLING AS WE LIKED IT:
THE WAWLI PAPERS by J Michael Kenyon
Issue Number 265
Friday, September 11, 1998
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A LETTER FROM A PRO WRESTLER'S NIECE

Dear J Michael:

I was able to get into the downtown library at Los Angeles last week when I
took the grandchildren to Disney for a week. The following is what was
located. I also found the death date for my great uncle, Joseph S.
Gardenfeld, June 27, 1973 in San francisco County, California.

                            -------------------------------------


>From "LOOK MAGAZINE", Volume I, September 14, 1937, a pictorial format
magazine.

A photograph of 2 wrestlers on the mat of a ring and the foot of the referee
on the head of one.( International News Photo)


"A WRESTLING REFEREE STEPS ON A FACE"

"The foot planted here on the ear and face of Wrestler Chief Chekawi belongs
to Joe Gardenfeld, who refereed Chekawi's match with Bill Hanson in a San
Francisco ring.

Chekawi, lying beneath Hanson in a tangle of arms and legs, had crawled to
the edge of the ring beneath the ropes, and the referee felt it necessary to
step on him in order to pry the men apart and get them back into the center
of the mat.

Gardenfeld may have been unduly out of sorts, because his clothes had been
torn off him while he was refereeing a match a week before.

In modern wrestling, the show is the thing. The wrestlers grunt, groan and
make faces, throw each other out of the ring, and frequently attack the
referee to add to the customers' excitement.

This is not much like the wrestling of 25 years ago but it draws
crowds---and just a fair heavyweight grappler can now earn as much as
$10,000 a year in the U.S."

(ED. NOTE--The above article refers to the wrestler generally known as Chief
Chewacki, or Chief Chewaki, or Chief Chewchki in some of his earlier
matches, but only here as Chief Chekawi.)

 -------------------------------------------------------------

I had always been told that this was a photo of Joe Gardenfeld, imagine was
suprise when I found the photo was of his foot !!!!!!! My friend and I
almost got kicked out of the library for all the laughter we produced.

Thanx,

Ley O'Connor
CASHEL3776
__________________________________________________

(ED. NOTE--One of the great boons to professional wrestling scholarship has
been the industrious work of Hisaharu Tanabe of New York/New Jersey. Now on
his web site (http://www.albany.net/~hit/puroresu/hallfame/hisa.html) you
may find literally hundreds of pages of wrestling pleasure, including 'The
Great Hisa's Puroresu Hall of Fame.')

THE GREAT HISA'S PURORESU HALL OF FAME
It has been hard for me to access news groups and to collect votes for the
annual Hall of Fame. I decided to start my personal version of "Hall of
Fame" just like everyone else on the net. Please remember that the inductees
for this "Hall of Fame" is nothing more than my personal choices for those
who had great achievement in puroresu, so please don't send me email, saying
"[someone's name] should be added to your Hall of Fame!!!" or something
alike.

[FIGHTERS]
Rikidozan,  Masahiko Kimura, Masutatsu Ooyama, Mitsuyo Maeda/Count de Koma,
Ad Santel, Bobby Bruns, Great Togo, Harold Sakata, Ben & Mike Sharpe, Lou
Thesz, Karl Gotch, Fred Blassie, The Destroyer, Toyonobori, Michiaki
Yoshimura, Hiro Matsuda, Kintaro Ohki/Kim Il, Antonio Inoki, Giant Baba,
Kotetsu Yamamoto, Umanosuke Ueda, Billy Robinson, Fritz Von Erich, Gene
Kiniski, Dick the Bruiser, Bobo Brazil, Bruno Sammartino, Crusher Lisowski,
Johnny Valentine, Verne Gagne, Dory Funk, Jr., Terry Funk, Jack Brisco,
Harley Race, Pedro Morales, Nick Bockwinkel, Tiger Jeet Singh, Abdullah the
Butcher, Andre the Giant, Dick Murdoch, The Great Kabuki, Seiji Sakaguchi,
Strong Kobayashi, Rusher Kimura, Mil Mascaras, Pretty Atom, Johnny Powers,
Bob Backlund, Jumbo Tsuruta, Tatsumi Fujinami, Riki Choshu, Stan Hansen,
Bruiser Brody, Satoru Sayama/Tiger Mask, Mach Fumiake, Roland Bock, Gran
Hamada, Yoshiaki Fujiwara, Beauty Pair, Dynamite Kid Atsushi, Ohnita,
Gen'ichiro Tenryu, Akira Maeda, Hulk Hogan, Jaguar Yokota, Devil Masami,
Chigusa Nagayo.

[Promoters]
Joe Malcewicz, Isao Yoshiwara, Hisashi Shinma, Vince McMahon Sr., Matsunaga
Brothers.

[Referees, Announcers, etc.]
Oki Shikina, Hiroshi Tazuhama, Ikki Kajiwara, Ichiro Furutachi.

_______________________________


EX-UT BASKETBALLER HITS THE PRO MATS

(Associated Press, June 17, 1998)

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - At 6-foot-11, Kevin Nash can still hit the hoop.

But at 310 pounds, don't expect him to jump. Not unless it's squarely onto
another wrestler's chest.

Eight years ago, the former University of Tennessee basketball player took a
stunt class and signed up as a pro wrestler. Seems that a World Championship
Wrestling costume suited Nash better than that UT uniform.

"I love what I do," said Nash. "I guess everybody finds a niche in life, and
I kind of found mine."

Nash was recruited to Tennessee from Aquinas High School in Trenton, Mich.,
by Ray Mears in the late '70s, but got to the school after Mears left. He
wound up playing for coach Don DeVoe instead -when the two weren't fighting.

A tussle with DeVoe in his junior year got Nash kicked off the team. He then
played in the Army, and as a pro in Europe. A ligament tear in his knee
ended his basketball career in 1985.

After stints as bouncers in Detroit and Atlanta, Nash decided to try his
hand at wrestling. He spent three years with WCW, quickly becoming a fan
favorite. He even played several small roles on TV and film, including a
part in "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II."

When his WCW contract expired, he switched over to the World Wrestling
Federation, and became a world champ under the name Diesel.

In 1996, Nash got tired of playing a character, and moved back to the WCW.

"Finally I thought I'd just be me," said Nash. The 38-year old has tattoos
across his massive arms, long hair and a goatee. Look for him in the ring in
black fringed pants and a New World Order tank.

"There are a lot more guys like myself that use their real name ... They're
not really characters. They're just guys. Guys fighting guys. It's more
reality-based."

Nash was sidelined by injuries for WCW's Nashville appearance last month,
but he plans to play about five more years. Then he wants to produce story
lines for the matches, and spend more time at home in Phoenix with his wife
and son, now 2. But he'll always feel like a wrestler.

"God made me almost 7 feet tall, and now I'm 300 pounds. I don't think I was
made an accountant or a bookkeeper," Nash said. "I was put on this earth for
something. I guess this is what it was."

____________________________________


PHIL MUSHNICK COLUMN EXCERPT

(New York Post, June 8, 1998)

As kids grow more violent, we're presented, or confronted, with TV execs
such as Stephen Chao, the new president of programming and marketing for USA
Network. Last month, in an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Chao spoke
of his great affection for professional wrestling. He cited his
grandmother's love of the late Bobo Brazil. But the relatively benign pro
wrestling of the Bobo Brazil era, as opposed to the twisted, social sickness
that pro wrestling now sells to a mostly young audience, is the difference
between the Brady Bunch and the Manson Family.

Chao has two sons, ages 7 and 4. If he can invite his two boys to sit with
him and watch one of the Monday Night WWF shows that appear on USA and still
feel that he's doing right by his kids and that USA is doing right by the
kids in its audience, we'd very much like to hear from him.

(Printed below is the article to which Mr. Mushnick refers.)
__________________________________________

PROGRAMMER PUTS SPIN ON USA NETWORKS

(Los Angeles Times, Saturday, May 9, 1998)

By Sallie Hofmeister

When Stephen Chao was in charge of developing shows for the Fox television
stations in the early '90s, he once so enraged his boss Barry Diller that
Diller hurled a videocassette tape across the room, leaving a huge gash in
the wall.

The two executives didn't speak for months, but Chao survived the
blowup--and was even promoted months later. He even convinced Diller to sign
the wall after Chao hung a frame around the scar, turning it into a work of
art that hangs in Chao's garage today, years after he was unceremoniously
fired from Fox in 1992 for hiring a stripper to perform at a company
management retreat.

Outrageous and defiant acts are among the earmarks of the 42-year-old
Harvard MBA, who revels in shaking up the establishment and who fancies
himself too cool to conform to industry conventions, much less act like a
corporate "suit."

Outspoken and opinionated, Chao is among the few Hollywood executives brazen
enough to go toe-to-toe with the abrasive Diller. And his programming
talents--he rewired prime-time economics with innovative shows such as the
fugitive docudrama, "America's Most Wanted"--are valued by Diller.

So it came as little surprise--and was greeted mainly with approval--last
month when Diller named him president of programming and marketing for USA
Networks.

Chao and Stephen Brenner, a capable 16-year veteran of the company who was
named president of operations, step into the void left by USA Networks
founder Kay Koplovitz, who Diller swept aside after his purchase of the
network and its sister Sci-Fi Channel from Universal Studios Inc. in
February.

During the last six years, Stephen Chao Inc. has turned out a few network
specials, including one for ABC that staged silly car accidents. The company
consulted for Diller in his previous incarnation as head of QVC, creating a
spinoff channel that went up in smoke with Diller's departure.

"He wasn't as successful on his own as you'd think," said former Fox boss
Greg Nathanson, president of television for Emmis Broadcasting Corp. "He's
brilliant. He sees things differently than most and has a very analytical
mind. But he is not a salesman type and probably works better when other
people do the selling.

Chao, who started his job last week, says the rap against USA Network--for a
hodgepodge of programming that critics say blurs its identity--is unfair.
"Based on its ratings, it couldn't be doing so badly," Chao said.

He has a particular soft spot for the popular World Wrestling Federation,
which keeps USA consistently among the nation's top-rated cable channels.
"My grandmother was this Chinese lady who came to America late in life with
a heavy accent--a straight and proper woman who responded to nothing in
American culture except the WWF and Bobo Brazil [the wrestler who died this
year at age 74]. She liked the theater of it."