Welp if the nukes drop I’m fucked
Jacksonville is like 8 miles from me
epsilon - Today at 8:26 PM
im 22
and i live in a suburb of phoenix
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:26 PM
And the Russian Satan 2 missiles have a blast radius of about 23-24 miles
epsilon - Today at 8:27 PM
cas?
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:28 PM
Watching a movie just dropping a few bombs myself atm
And well Jax has a Major naval base in it
That’s actually the one my mother works at
epsilon - Today at 8:30 PM
i know we got some air force bases here
hell i know there was an active silo down near tuscon
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:37 PM
well the navy of the USA is a major reason we have won most major wars we have been involved in
and I mean SHIT
we have working fucking railguns
epsilon - Today at 8:37 PM
working
not in operation
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:38 PM
....
epsilon - Today at 8:38 PM
NOT USED ON A SHIP
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:38 PM
you sure about that
epsilon - Today at 8:38 PM
SHOW ME A SHIP WITH A RAILGUN
RIGHT GOD DAMN NOW
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:40 PM
damn that havn't mounted it yet BUT
the ship it is ment to be mounted on IS
IS
built
USS Zumwalt DDG 1000
also\
change of topic I know but still
I got another 420 rounds for my AR today
epsilon - Today at 8:43 PM
what a fucking change of topic
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:44 PM
i told you its not mounted yet but the ship is built
epsilon - Today at 8:45 PM
it said it was meant to be mounted on the USS trenton
not that one
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:47 PM
the USS trenton is a amphibious transport dock
epsilon - Today at 8:47 PM
im awake
aware
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:48 PM
that  was decomissioned back in 01
epsilon - Today at 8:48 PM
conflicting articles
hold up
i see where it says that new destroyer
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:49 PM
think about it logicly
the Zumwalt is a stealth destroyer something that wouldn't want a truck sized explosion going off from it to give it away
an electro-magnetic pulse has its own issues as well but still not as bad as what is basicly a bomb
epsilon - Today at 8:51 PM
ok
hold up found it
also
i was wrong
in a way
Despite previous efforts to install this multi-megawatt railgun on the USNS Trenton, shifting budget priorities in late 2017 may mean that this railgun may never be carried on a USN warship.

US Navy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Trenton_(T-EPF-5)
USNS Trenton (T-EPF-5)
USNS Trenton (T-EPF-5), (formerly JHSV-5), (ex-Resolute) is a Spearhead-class expeditionary fast transport. Spearhead-class ships are used to support overseas operations, conduct humanitarian aid and disaster relief, and support special operation...

LittleLaGG - Today at 8:52 PM
dude
if we go to war with like china or russia
budget will not matter
epsilon - Today at 8:53 PM
yea
but i doubt railguns will be mainly used
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:53 PM
no but stuff like that would become a major show of force
epsilon - Today at 8:54 PM
only way i could see a raingun being used is to penetrate costal defenses from range if there are any that cant be taken out by missile
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:54 PM
thats exactly what it can bbe used for
you know what a hellfire missile is?
epsilon - Today at 8:55 PM
isnt that missile used on attack jets
air to ground?
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:55 PM
air to ground that seeks out radar stations
finds and homes in on the radar emissions
but
now those missiles are slow (compared to a ferro-magnetic slug moving at like MACH 2-3)
epsilon - Today at 8:57 PM
anything is SLOW compared to mach 2-3(unless its a warhead reentering atmosphere)
LittleLaGG - Today at 8:57 PM
and we have weapon systems made to destroy those types of missiles
CIWS is a 20 MM gattling cannon that fires round about 100 20mm shells a second and usually work in tandum
IE it LITTERLY THROWS A WALL OR LEAD TO KILL INCOMING MISSLES
BUT
a ferro-magnetic slug on the other hand
while it has a radar sig yes
is moving too fast to truely be stoped by that system due to it using radar itself
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:00 PM
in addition the slug has not explosive to destroy
see the use of the railgun in the inital stages of a beachhead landing?
also our battleship-era naval cannons could fire MILES inland
picture what range a railgun can have
I mean beyond visual range combat has become the norm for both land aswell as sea warfare
but now pitcure that with something you CANT see coming
epsilon - Today at 9:03 PM
but will it keep the same power
air resistance is a thing this relies on hitting fast
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:03 PM
something moving at MACH 2-3 slaming into you is like having a small bomb 500-750 Ib going off
thats more than enough for most ships
and most sea fortifcations
in the test of the railgun is showed the slug going through multiple layers of steel and reinforced  concreate and STILL having enough punch to continue well into the earth
and that was at I want to say about a mile
I honestly dont remember the exact range off the top of my head
epsilon - Today at 9:07 PM
but that was close range
what if this is fired from miles off
what impact will it have
granted probably  a fuckin big one
but what do you sacrifice
through 10 layers of foot+ thick steel plateing AND STILL CONTINUED WELL INTO THE GROUND
like to the point they couldn't find the damn thing
thats 10+ FEET of solid steel plating with gaps to allow the dissipation of energy in between them
then your stricking the ground which I sure you remember from our shoddycast days
is actualy REALLY FUCKING good at stoping stuff
epsilon - Today at 9:12 PM
i still have my doubts
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:13 PM
put it this way
NO it will not be a fucking nuclear bomb level of desturtion
but
YES
it will be MORE than enough to destroy any easily built/non-nuke proof shelter
keep in mind
this dont go boom
this is a straight penetration munition
epsilon - Today at 9:15 PM
but let me ask is this any use past coast line
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:15 PM
so it dont need the hundreds of pounds of high explosives
epsilon - Today at 9:15 PM
if the terrain is slightly hilly
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:15 PM
yes
keep in mind just because there will be a drop factor to this does NOT mean that it is slowing down (which while yes it will be due to external ballistics)
but that drop is not caused by a reduction in speed
thus just like  the shells our battle ships use the lob dozens of miles inland
there will still be a lob to the slug
just not AS pronounced
also instead of taking out the city block it lands in
it just wipes the building (well maybe two)
epsilon - Today at 9:18 PM
i  still think the raingun itself is very limited
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:19 PM
your just thinking of the current gen of weapons though
epsilon - Today at 9:19 PM
not what can be utilized to its full extent
aircraft is where its at
aircraft are a ,ajor player
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:19 PM
your comparing it to the current era of warfare
yes they are but at the same time that are more easy to counteract
also keep in mind to my knowledge the US has the only gen-5 fightercraft in the world
epsilon - Today at 9:21 PM
f-35?
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:21 PM
F-22
F-35 is a multi-purpose
and has risk of stealth loss due to exterior weapons platforms
epsilon - Today at 9:22 PM
hmm
both are gen-5 fighters
so i was technically correct
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:22 PM
yes but one is a pure air to air one is a multi-purpose platform
epsilon - Today at 9:23 PM
true
we didnt specify that tho
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:23 PM
both cost millions but hey
epsilon - Today at 9:23 PM
the program has costed billions
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:23 PM
I did say fightercraft
epsilon - Today at 9:23 PM
66B as of 2011(edited)
designed to perform ground attack and air superiority
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:24 PM
BUT you cant win a ground war nor a naval war with fighters along
also cost I was talking per aircraft
not the program
epsilon - Today at 9:24 PM
still tho the program costed so much
f-35 is 1.508 trillion program cost
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:25 PM
in addition you need to keep in mind the mechanized warfare aspect as well when you start thinking of a ground war
epsilon - Today at 9:26 PM
define mechanized warfare
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:26 PM
and the counters to that form of warfare
epsilon - Today at 9:26 PM
so we are both on the same page
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:27 PM
the current era of warfare were a large part of both troop transport and protection is achieved by use of armored vehicles
as well as vehicles that can do fighting themselves IE: IFV'v
Bradlys BTR's etc
not to mention MBT's
we have weapons made to counteract this yes
but look at the costs and the range of those weapons
lets use the A-10 thunderbolt 2 for an exampl.e
GAU-8 Advenger
2000 rounds
lets say your average IFV/MBT takes 30 of those to kill and our pilot has a good reaction time of about a second
about half a second my bad
that means for every one vehicle he will kill using that GAU he will be expending 34 rounds of 30mm shells
that means if he has perfect acc he will kill about 58.8 vehicles per load (this is not including the other munitions on the aircraft)
now the A-10 thunderbolt 2 is by no means a arcraft made to fight other aircraft
two sidewinder missiles are it's only means of self defense
you need to keep air superiority fighters close by to assist with protection of the a-10
you also need to keep the flight range of both types of aircraft
and the loads as well
look at the cost and the logistics of doing that
hell its taken me abotu 10 mins to just give that as an example
epsilon - Today at 9:36 PM
listen
im going to be real
ive lost all interest in this
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:36 PM
lol
epsilon - Today at 9:36 PM
like
10 minutes ago
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:36 PM
you saw that wall of text and was like FUCK THIS SHIT I'M OUT
TL:DR
America would probably win but it would be hard fought and VERY costly
epsilon - Today at 9:37 PM
legit i stopped caring after you got into mechanized warfare
depends if it doesnt go nuclear
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:38 PM
we are exlucing that as that brings in a WHOLE range of diffrent varibles
IE: the UN and NATO
epsilon - Today at 9:39 PM
but
but
LittleLaGG - Today at 9:40 PM
no matter how you look at it KAWAII Stalin you can not glass the entire UN and NATO even if you only hit major population centers
epsilon - Today at 9:41 PM
what about KAWAII PUTIN