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- [21:00] <@blarajan> my personal opinion for this lecture
- [21:00] <%Danilo> life orb mienfoo
- [21:00] <@blarajan> is we go
- [21:00] <@blarajan> really offensive
- [21:00] <@iss> i swear it works, it gets sucker punch
- [21:00] <@blarajan> thoughts?
- [21:00] <%Danilo> i hear that's good
- [21:00] <@iss> sure
- [21:00] <uxsee> what is a team around riolu
- [21:00] <%Raseri> physical chinchou
- [21:00] <%Raseri> !
- [21:00] <%Raseri> idk i hate pokemon
- [21:00] <@blarajan> i think this one should be a super offensive team
- [21:01] <@iss> raseri i'll pastebin my team
- [21:01] <Borogoves> ok then let's do
- [21:01] <Borogoves> lo scraggy
- [21:01] <@blarajan> cause offense is kind of difficult in lc to do well
- [21:01] <%Danilo> mold breaker drilbur then
- [21:01] <uxsee> gogogo stall :D
- [21:01] <%Danilo> a must
- [21:01] <@blarajan> there are a variety of offensive threats that are fun to build around
- [21:01] <@blarajan> okay
- [21:01] <@blarajan> 1) life orb scraggy
- [21:01] * Friar (Mibbit@synIRC-E57B18C0.nts.wustl.edu) has joined #littlecup
- [21:01] <@blarajan> 2) life orb mienfoo
- [21:01] <@blarajan> 3) life orb staryu
- [21:01] <@blarajan> 4) agility chinchou
- [21:01] <@iss> i vote 4
- [21:01] <@blarajan> one of these
- [21:01] <@iss> b/c chinchou
- [21:01] <@blarajan> well your vote doesn't count
- [21:01] <uxsee> 2
- [21:01] <uxsee> :D
- [21:01] <@iss> hmmm
- [21:01] <@blarajan> i'm really really thinking either lo mienfoo or lo staryu
- [21:01] <@blarajan> are what we should build around for today
- [21:01] <uxsee> sounds fun and hipster
- [21:01] <@prem> lo staryu
- [21:01] <@blarajan> both are really fun mons for the meta
- [21:02] <McMeghan> I Propose Wynaut + SetuP !
- [21:02] <@prem> lo mienfoo is too simple
- [21:02] <%Raseri> 1
- [21:02] <@blarajan> i vote lo staryu
- [21:02] <@iss> wynaut is sort of bad now :(
- [21:02] <@iss> memento diglett is better for setup imo
- [21:02] <uxsee> :(
- [21:02] <@blarajan> 2 votes for staryu, one for chinchou, one for scraggy
- [21:02] <@blarajan> and one for mienfoo
- [21:02] <@blarajan> thus far
- [21:02] <@prem> any deck running staryu should run scraggy anyway
- [21:02] <@prem> :D
- [21:02] <@blarajan> wait while we're here
- [21:02] <@blarajan> WHO'S ACTUALLY HERE FOR THIS?
- [21:02] <@blarajan> say aye
- [21:02] <uxsee> changes vote to scraggy
- [21:02] <Borogoves> aye
- [21:02] <@prem> IM LEAVING FOR AN HOUR
- [21:02] <@blarajan> aye
- [21:02] <@prem> AT LEAST
- [21:02] <@blarajan> okay leave then
- [21:02] <uxsee> ayer
- [21:02] <@blarajan> who's going to be here for this whole thing?
- [21:03] <@prem> lol
- [21:03] <@blarajan> me, uxsee, borogroves
- [21:03] <uxsee> maybe me
- [21:03] <%Raseri> n
- [21:03] <uxsee> depends on if i die or not
- [21:03] <%Raseri> fuck pokemon
- [21:03] * breh (Mibbit@synIRC-6786C0B0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #littlecup
- [21:03] <@blarajan> raseri? danilo? ebeast? mcmeghan? hawkstar? dracoyoshi8? breh?
- [21:03] <breh> euuurgh
- [21:03] <%Raseri> ill watch
- [21:03] <breh> that red
- [21:03] <%Raseri> and talk sometimes
- [21:03] <@blarajan> yeah watching is fine
- [21:03] <+Hawkstar> I'm oososososososososing
- [21:03] <uxsee> might go afk a little bit
- [21:03] <@blarajan> i just want to know if you'll be hereish
- [21:03] <breh> it looks awful on mibbit x_x
- [21:03] <%Danilo> what am i voting on
- [21:03] <@blarajan> snowflakes?
- [21:03] <McMeghan> i'll watch because i'm useless at talking
- [21:03] <ebeast> yeah I'ma go with Raseri's pan
- [21:03] <@blarajan> 1) lo scraggy 2) lo mienfoo 3) lo staryu 4) agility chinchou
- [21:03] <%Danilo> im kind of here
- [21:03] <@blarajan> agility chinchou is kind of really bad
- [21:04] <@blarajan> for this meta
- [21:04] <ebeast> I might get into this fully if NU showdowns ends fast enough
- [21:04] <@blarajan> so i would really really really recommend
- [21:04] <%Danilo> im with lo mienfoo
- [21:04] <@blarajan> not going for that
- [21:04] <McMeghan> 0
- [21:04] <McMeghan> 2
- [21:04] <@blarajan> okay actually
- [21:04] <McMeghan> My vote goes for Mienfoo
- [21:04] <viamage> teambuil going on yet?
- [21:04] <@blarajan> just say the poke
- [21:04] <@blarajan> okay
- [21:04] <@blarajan> life orb mienfoo?
- [21:04] <@iss> lo staryu
- [21:04] <@blarajan> or staryu?
- [21:04] <Snowflakes> yeah blara
- [21:04] <@blarajan> i'm limiting it to these two
- [21:04] <uxsee> mienfoo strong
- [21:04] <@iss> staryu op
- [21:04] <ebeast> Staryu go
- [21:04] <@blarajan> because chinchou fucking sucks and scraggy can easily be added
- [21:04] <Borogoves> ok then I'll say staryu
- [21:04] <uxsee> ***mienfoo***
- [21:04] <viamage> staryu
- [21:05] <Snowflakes> rajan yuflash
- [21:05] <@blarajan> staryu for me too
- [21:05] <@blarajan> yeah you going to join this thing flakes?
- [21:05] <viamage> get that spin support :P
- [21:05] <@blarajan> actually the staryu i'm imagining doesn't have spin (gasp!!!)
- [21:05] <Snowflakes> i'll contribute what i can
- [21:05] <@prem> LO STARYU
- [21:05] <@prem> RUNS
- [21:05] <viamage> :O really?
- [21:05] <Snowflakes> it uses blizzard doesn't it
- [21:05] <@prem> PSYCHIC HP GRASS BLIZZARD HYDRO PUMP
- [21:05] <viamage> ^
- [21:05] <@blarajan> .......
- [21:05] <@blarajan> no
- [21:05] <Borogoves> ^
- [21:05] <@blarajan> what
- [21:05] <@prem> it should
- [21:05] <@blarajan> no
- [21:05] <@prem> lol
- [21:05] <uxsee> ok then snover
- [21:05] <Borogoves> yes
- [21:05] <@blarajan> what
- [21:05] <viamage> ok makes sense prem
- [21:05] <@blarajan> no
- [21:05] <uxsee> :D
- [21:05] <@prem> what else are you gonna run
- [21:05] <@prem> lol
- [21:06] <viamage> ice beam and tbolt?
- [21:06] <Snowflakes> blizzard>ice beam
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- [21:06] * Cerberus sets mode: +h askaninjask
- [21:06] <Snowflakes> hp grass for tirt
- [21:06] <viamage> agreed snow
- [21:06] <@blarajan> i just meant
- [21:06] <@blarajan> ice beam > blizzard
- [21:06] <@blarajan> lol
- [21:06] <@blarajan> i'm okay with that four attack thing
- [21:06] <@blarajan> unless we use snover
- [21:06] <@prem> well obviously
- [21:06] <@blarajan> later or something
- [21:06] <@prem> but ice beam cant 2hko lileep
- [21:06] <uxsee> or recover
- [21:06] <@blarajan> hydro pump / ice beam / hp grass / psychic
- [21:06] <@prem> so i assume snover is needed
- [21:06] <@blarajan> or hydro pump / ice beam / hp grass / recover
- [21:06] <@blarajan> ?
- [21:06] * Double01 (Double01@synIRC-C56DEF36.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #littlecup
- [21:07] <@prem> no recover is useless
- [21:07] <@blarajan> are we okay with lo staryu?
- [21:07] <@prem> you dont have turns
- [21:07] <Snowflakes> psychic
- [21:07] <viamage> yes
- [21:07] <@blarajan> okay truesies
- [21:07] <@blarajan> aight
- [21:07] <@blarajan> lo four attack staryu doing it for us here?
- [21:07] <viamage> is that the first poke
- [21:07] <uxsee> just an option, jeez
- [21:07] <@iss> hydro pump / tbolt / hp grass / psychic
- [21:07] <@iss> imo
- [21:07] <@blarajan> yes
- [21:07] <@blarajan> need ice beam to even touch lileep
- [21:07] <@iss> screw lileep
- [21:07] <@blarajan> hp grass hits waters as hard as tbolt p much
- [21:07] <@iss> we have 5 other mons
- [21:07] <@blarajan> why tbolt?
- [21:07] <@prem> hp grass hits chinchou
- [21:07] <@prem> tbolt is worthess
- [21:07] <uxsee> thats what i was wondering
- [21:07] <@iss> to hit idk
- [21:08] <@blarajan> OKAY SO WE'LL USE LIFE ORB STARYU
- [21:08] <@blarajan> WITH HYDRO PUMP HP GRASS ICE BEAM PSYCHIC
- [21:08] <uxsee> XD
- [21:08] <@blarajan> IS THIS OKAY?
- [21:08] <@blarajan> ANY ONE REALLY OBJECT?
- [21:08] <@iss> i guess it hits like
- [21:08] <@iss> delibird
- [21:08] <@prem> lol
- [21:08] <Snowflakes> lol
- [21:08] <uxsee> caps, ban blajaran
- [21:08] <@blarajan> k
- [21:08] <uxsee> :D
- [21:08] <@blarajan> is this fine plz say yes guys
- [21:08] * iss sets mode: +b blaranoob!*@*
- [21:08] <@iss> ya sure
- [21:08] * prem sets mode: -b blaranoob!*@*
- [21:08] <uxsee> lol
- [21:08] <@prem> ITS OBVIOUSLY FINE
- [21:08] <@prem> DUMBASS
- [21:08] <@blarajan> okay
- [21:08] <@blarajan> fuck it
- [21:08] <Snowflakes> nobody said NO
- [21:08] <@blarajan> nobody said no
- [21:08] <@blarajan> we're doing it
- [21:08] <uxsee> ban prem too
- [21:08] <@iss> lol
- [21:08] <viamage> who's building the team?
- [21:08] <uxsee> ban everyone
- [21:08] <@blarajan> i got you nigs
- [21:08] <Snowflakes> we all are
- [21:08] <@iss> everyone via
- [21:09] <@prem> lol
- [21:09] <@iss> vishnomage
- [21:09] <@iss> :D
- [21:09] <@iss> okay anyways
- [21:09] <viamage> :P
- [21:09] <@iss> what set
- [21:09] <@iss> we need hpump obviously
- [21:09] <@iss> and hp grass is cool too
- [21:09] <@iss> can someone calc hp grass against standard offensive chinchou with eviolite
- [21:09] <@iss> (even though that set sucks a lot now)
- [21:09] <@blarajan> hydro pump / hp grass / ice team / psychic
- [21:10] <@blarajan> 252 SpAtk Life Orb Staryu Hidden Power Grass vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Eviolite Chinchou: 44.44% - 51.85% (2-3 hits to KO)
- [21:10] <@blarajan> idk what it runs
- [21:10] <@blarajan> i just maxed hp
- [21:10] <ebeast> 196SpAtk Life Orb Analytic lvl 5 Staryu (Neutral) Hidden Power (Grass) vs 0HP/0SpDef Eviolite Volt Absorb lvl 5 Chinchou (Neutral): 58% -
- 83% (14 - 20 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO
- [21:10] <ebeast> iirc it uses only 52 in Def
- [21:10] <@blarajan> 252 SpAtk Life Orb Staryu Ice Beam vs 252 HP/252 SpDef Eviolite Lileep (+SpDef) : 46.15% - 53.85% (2-3 hits to KO)
- [21:10] <@blarajan> staryu is strong as fuck guys
- [21:11] <@blarajan> and the cool thing is
- [21:11] <@prem> yes
- [21:11] <@blarajan> it has 19 hp
- [21:11] <@prem> only with a life orb
- [21:11] <@blarajan> so it's only one point hp a turn
- [21:11] <Borogoves> yup
- [21:11] <@blarajan> now what do we think staryu has issues with?
- [21:11] <@blarajan> breaking through or getting outrun
- [21:11] <@blarajan> thoughts?
- [21:11] <@iss> ferroseed
- [21:11] <@blarajan> for sure ferroseed
- [21:11] <@blarajan> anything else?
- [21:11] <@iss> specially defensive restalk chinchou
- [21:11] <@blarajan> ok
- [21:11] <@blarajan> ferroseed / rest talk chinchou
- [21:11] <@blarajan> i'd like to say murkrow
- [21:11] <@iss> choice scarf pkmn
- [21:11] <@blarajan> since this is four attacks
- [21:12] <@blarajan> ferroseed / rest talk chinchou / murkrow / scarfers
- [21:12] <@blarajan> i'll add misdreavus in there for fast mons, though lo hydro does a fucking ton
- [21:12] <Snowflakes> drilburr
- [21:12] <Snowflakes> or do we include that
- [21:12] <@blarajan> yeah
- [21:12] <@blarajan> i'll add it
- [21:12] <Snowflakes> in scarfers
- [21:12] <@blarajan> it ohkoes
- [21:12] <@iss> there are only two rs in drilbur
- [21:12] <@iss> (stupid danilo)
- [21:12] <@blarajan> ferroseed / rest talk chinchou / murkrow / misdreavus / drilbur / scarfers
- [21:12] <@blarajan> diglett / elekid as well
- [21:12] <uxsee> cuz ninjas~
- [21:13] <@iss> other staryu
- [21:13] <@blarajan> any other dieas, breh, uxsee, etc?
- [21:13] <@iss> that can predict and win speed ties
- [21:13] <uxsee> umm not really
- [21:13] <@blarajan> ferroseed / reset talk chinchou / murkrow / misdreavus / drilbur / elekid / diglett / staryu / scarfers
- [21:13] <@prem> you know whats gay
- [21:13] <@iss> every 19+ speeder and scarfers
- [21:13] <viamage> i think we got them all and then some
- [21:13] <@prem> scraggy
- [21:13] <@prem> !
- [21:13] <@prem> not mienfoo
- [21:13] <@iss> you know whos gay
- [21:13] <@prem> but scraggy
- [21:13] <%Danilo> iss i fixxed it t-t
- [21:13] <@iss> definitely not prem
- [21:13] <@prem> i know
- [21:13] <@prem> right
- [21:13] <@prem> okay im leaving
- [21:13] <@blarajan> ferroseed / rest talk chinchou /
- [21:13] <@blarajan> oops
- [21:13] <@prem> ill be back in an hour or 2
- [21:14] <Snowflakes> ok
- [21:14] <@blarajan> 252 SpAtk Life Orb Staryu Hydro Pump vs 0 HP/36 SpDef Eviolite Scraggy: 61.9% - 76.19% (2 hits to KO)
- [21:14] <ebeast> iirc Houndour LO Sucker Punch OHKOes
- [21:14] <@blarajan> this shit is strong okay
- [21:14] <@blarajan> okay
- [21:14] <@blarajan> we have a bunch of checks now
- [21:14] <@iss> physical lo chinchou
- [21:14] <@blarajan> ferroseed / rest talk chinchou / murkrow / misdreavus / drilbur / elekid / diglett / staryu / houndour / scarfers
- [21:14] <@iss> i bet sucker punch koes if you bp it a swords dance
- [21:14] <breh> so wait
- [21:14] <breh> what is the current team?
- [21:14] <uxsee> would stunky count
- [21:14] <@blarajan> just life orb staryu
- [21:14] <viamage> staryu
- [21:14] <@blarajan> fuck stunky
- [21:14] <Borogoves> just lo staryu
- [21:14] <uxsee> stunky strong
- [21:14] <uxsee> :D
- [21:14] <@iss> life orb staryu / / / / / /
- [21:15] <@blarajan> now we see a lot of those problems right now
- [21:15] <uxsee> what is the teamstyle
- [21:15] <@iss> also blarajan
- [21:15] <@blarajan> super offense
- [21:15] <@blarajan> we're making this offensive as shit
- [21:15] <uxsee> okay
- [21:15] <@iss> lo staryu is really prediction dependant
- [21:15] <Snowflakes> bronzor
- [21:15] <viamage> ho :O
- [21:15] <@blarajan> because offense teams are really hard to build
- [21:15] <@blarajan> in lc
- [21:15] <@blarajan> so it's perfect to go through how to do it
- [21:15] <@iss> so -all things that can live attack + not the best attack-
- [21:15] <breh> blara
- [21:15] <breh> don't you just use like
- [21:15] <breh> hippo/drilbur/etc.
- [21:15] <@iss> no
- [21:15] <@blarajan> that's balanced really
- [21:15] <@iss> because that's sand
- [21:15] <Snowflakes> blarasand
- [21:15] <@blarajan> sand is pretty balanced
- [21:16] <@blarajan> i'm talking like pure unadulterated little cup hyper offense
- [21:16] <@iss> sand is balance
- [21:16] <@iss> it's drilbur + support bulky mons
- [21:16] <uxsee> okay then scraggy
- [21:16] <uxsee> ofc
- [21:16] <@iss> maybe
- [21:16] <Snowflakes> do we bother with screens?
- [21:16] <@iss> no
- [21:16] <Snowflakes> k
- [21:16] <@blarajan> we could try screens offense
- [21:16] <uxsee> scraggy strong and beats ferroseed
- [21:16] <@blarajan> why just no, iss?
- [21:16] <@iss> you don't screen in lc ho
- [21:16] <@blarajan> you can
- [21:16] <@iss> there's no time to put up screens
- [21:16] <@iss> because
- [21:16] <@blarajan> bs this meta is slow as balls
- [21:16] <@iss> bronzor is really big setup bait
- [21:16] <viamage> magne for steel trapping :D
- [21:16] <@iss> if you get set up on as ho
- [21:16] <uxsee> cottonee for reflect
- [21:16] <@blarajan> nigga i'm talking abra screens
- [21:16] <@iss> you just die
- [21:17] <@blarajan> dual screen abra
- [21:17] <@iss> abra screens are stupid but okay you have a point
- [21:17] <viamage> ^
- [21:17] <Friar> wouldnt like natu make sense to stop our mons from being crippled
- [21:17] <@blarajan> o
- [21:17] <@blarajan> cool story
- [21:17] <@blarajan> i like that
- [21:17] <@blarajan> natu sounds pretty cool
- [21:17] <@blarajan> cock blocking ferroseed too
- [21:17] <uxsee> then its not hyperoffense
- [21:17] <uxsee> unless specs
- [21:17] <@iss> maybe we should talk about what ho needs
- [21:17] <@blarajan> yeah
- [21:17] <@iss> okay so we need
- [21:18] <@iss> hazards
- [21:18] <@blarajan> we need strong
- [21:18] <@blarajan> a lot of strong
- [21:18] <@iss> maybe screens
- [21:18] <@iss> at least 4 sweepers
- [21:18] <@blarajan> uh
- [21:18] <uxsee> offensive hazards = ?
- [21:18] <viamage> we need scarf porygon :D
- [21:18] <@blarajan> i disagree there
- [21:18] <@blarajan> okay i guess this is a bit hard since
- [21:18] <@blarajan> we all have really conflicting definitions of
- [21:18] <@iss> at least 3 actually
- [21:18] <@iss> tbh
- [21:18] <@blarajan> offense
- [21:18] <@blarajan> or hyper offense
- [21:18] <@blarajan> or whatever the hell we're doing
- [21:18] <@blarajan> so how about this
- [21:18] <uxsee> lets define it first
- [21:18] <@blarajan> let's just say when we're building this
- [21:18] <@blarajan> we're going for BAM POW SWEEP SMASH
- [21:18] <@iss> you need revenge killer + hazards + sweepers at the minimum
- [21:18] <@iss> tbh
- [21:19] <@blarajan> and breakers and clean up and shit
- [21:19] <@blarajan> i'm sure we can figure out what to and what not to add
- [21:19] <@iss> maybe screens, maybe a spinner
- [21:19] <@blarajan> i'm thinking natu sounds fantastic
- [21:19] <@blarajan> since it acts as a spinner and screeners
- [21:19] <@blarajan> screener*
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- [21:19] <@blarajan> and pivot and shit
- [21:19] <uxsee> yeah
- [21:19] <@iss> you don't really need wallbreakers tbh because there are no really good wallbreakers
- [21:19] <@blarajan> i really like this idea a lot
- [21:19] <@blarajan> STARYU
- [21:19] <KingTorterraXIV> hello
- [21:19] <@blarajan> IS BEST WALL BREAKER
- [21:19] <uxsee> or light screenmagnemite
- [21:19] <@iss> staryu isn't really a wallbreaker but w.e
- [21:19] <@blarajan> the problem with that is magnemite is kind of slow at least
- [21:19] <uxsee> for ferroshit
- [21:19] <@iss> lol ds magnemite
- [21:19] <@iss> i tried that
- [21:19] <@blarajan> who said natu?
- [21:19] <@blarajan> for the record
- [21:19] <@iss> it sucked a lot :(
- [21:19] <@blarajan> i don't remember
- [21:19] <uxsee> aww D:
- [21:20] <ebeast> Friar
- [21:20] <ebeast> did
- [21:20] <@blarajan> friar, that was a really good call
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- [21:20] <@iss> dual screen natu tbh
- [21:20] <@iss> u-turn is cool too
- [21:20] <@iss> reflect/light screen/u-turn/roost
- [21:20] <@blarajan> do we all see why dual screen natu might be a cool fit for where this team is going?
- [21:20] <@blarajan> no nigger
- [21:20] <@blarajan> fuck roost
- [21:20] <@iss> fine
- [21:20] <@blarajan> we don't have time to roost
- [21:20] <@iss> run psychic or something idk
- [21:20] <@blarajan> hp fly that shit
- [21:20] <Snowflakes> THIS IS HYPER OFFENSIVE
- [21:20] <Snowflakes> FUCK YEAH
- [21:20] <@iss> lol
- [21:20] <uxsee> SPECS NATU LEGGO
- [21:20] <@blarajan> but yeah do we see why natu is a cool suggestion?
- [21:20] <Snowflakes> let's go in like rambo
- [21:20] <Snowflakes> i'm gamee for natuu
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- [21:21] <@iss> ho was really fun in dpp
- [21:21] <@blarajan> it's fast, it gets screens, prevents hazards which we like, u-turn, cock blocks ferrotroll, helps against natu and such, and hippo
- [21:21] <@blarajan> etc
- [21:21] <@blarajan> it provides us a lot of good momentum
- [21:21] <uxsee> okay now we need something to take electric attacks
- [21:21] <@blarajan> and such
- [21:21] <@blarajan> wait
- [21:21] <@blarajan> we have an important decision to make first
- [21:21] <@blarajan> eviolite? or light clay?
- [21:21] <uxsee> oooooh
- [21:21] <uxsee> umm
- [21:21] <@blarajan> i hate this decision
- [21:21] <@iss> light clay
- [21:21] <Snowflakes> how many turns does light clay make it go up?
- [21:21] <@iss> natu can force out hazard setters
- [21:21] <@blarajan> 8
- [21:21] <@iss> +3 turns
- [21:21] <@iss> which is a lot
- [21:22] <@blarajan> 8 turns with light clay
- [21:22] <Snowflakes> yeah it is
- [21:22] <@blarajan> 5 without
- [21:22] <uxsee> light clay then
- [21:22] <@blarajan> which includes the turn it's set up
- [21:22] <@blarajan> okay
- [21:22] <ebeast> I think Light Clay
- [21:22] <@blarajan> i'm making this max timid
- [21:22] <@blarajan> right?
- [21:22] <@iss> ofc
- [21:22] <@blarajan> to outrun as much as possible
- [21:22] <@iss> max speed then hp
- [21:22] <uxsee> max hp and timid
- [21:22] <@iss> then rest in some defensive stats i guess
- [21:22] <uxsee> and speed
- [21:22] <ebeast> if we're going HO might as well screw the bulk and get the most out of the screens
- [21:22] <@blarajan> is there an hp flying
- [21:22] <@iss> did anyone here play dpp lc
- [21:22] <@blarajan> that has 31 spe?
- [21:22] <@iss> no
- [21:22] <uxsee> no keep some bulk
- [21:22] <@blarajan> fuck you flying
- [21:22] <@blarajan> why not max special attack?
- [21:22] <@iss> run psychic
- [21:22] <@iss> lol
- [21:22] <@iss> because
- [21:22] <@blarajan> hp flying to smash scraggy and mienfoo and such
- [21:22] <uxsee> weak
- [21:22] <@iss> you don't want natu in
- [21:23] <@iss> b/c you're wasting screen turns
- [21:23] <uxsee> well actually base 70 spatk isnt horrible
- [21:23] <uxsee> but iss is right
- [21:23] <uxsee> u wanna u turn out asap
- [21:23] <uxsee> so max hp and max speed, timid
- [21:23] <@iss> yeah pretty much
- [21:24] <uxsee> with LS/R/U turn/ and what
- [21:24] <uxsee> hp flying?
- [21:24] <uxsee> roost?
- [21:24] <uxsee> wish?
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- [21:24] <@iss> psychic imo but it really doesn't matter
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- [21:24] <Snowflakes> fuck the roost
- [21:24] <@iss> hi aerrow
- [21:24] <@blarajan> aerrow
- [21:24] <@blarajan> would you like to help us build offense
- [21:24] <@blarajan> or are you going to be a gay and log off in t- 3 minutes?
- [21:24] <@blarajan> all right i'm fine with psychic
- [21:25] <~Aerrow> hi iss
- [21:25] <@blarajan> i just preferred hp fly so murkrow can't keep up a sub against us
- [21:25] <@blarajan> is all
- [21:25] <uxsee> i liek hp flying more but whatevs
- [21:25] <@iss> okay blarajan
- [21:25] <@iss> w.e
- [21:25] <uxsee> or featherdance
- [21:25] <uxsee> that would be cool~
- [21:25] <@blarajan> reflect does the same thing
- [21:25] <@blarajan> doesn't it?
- [21:25] <@iss> lol
- [21:26] <~Aerrow> yea i logged on to talk with ray jay
- [21:26] <~Aerrow> he not on obv
- [21:26] <~Aerrow> he's*
- [21:26] <uxsee> starmie/natu/__/__/__/__
- [21:26] <@blarajan> staryu* but yeah
- [21:26] <@blarajan> now adding natu did some interesting things
- [21:26] <uxsee> im sorry
- [21:26] <uxsee> fail
- [21:27] <uxsee> weak to electric and chinchou
- [21:27] <uxsee> very weak to chinchou
- [21:27] <@iss> chinchou switch hmm
- [21:27] <@blarajan> yeah
- [21:27] <@blarajan> but keep in mind
- [21:27] <@blarajan> with screens
- [21:27] <@blarajan> we now have the option to run more frail sweepers
- [21:27] <@iss> we really need hazards now tbh
- [21:27] <@blarajan> or life orb > evioltie on things
- [21:27] <@blarajan> eviolite*
- [21:27] <uxsee> ok
- [21:28] <@blarajan> which helps a lot--thanks friar
- [21:28] <@blarajan> hazards are a big deal
- [21:28] <uxsee> diglett cuz strong
- [21:28] <@blarajan> we might consider
- [21:28] <@blarajan> stealth rock shell smash dwebble
- [21:28] <uxsee> :D
- [21:28] <@blarajan> or diglett
- [21:28] <uxsee> diglett for chinchou :D
- [21:28] <@blarajan> diglett is indeed a cool dude
- [21:28] <@blarajan> something like
- [21:28] <@blarajan> sr memento earthquake rock slide?
- [21:29] <uxsee> yep and now we ca runa bunch of set up sweepers
- [21:29] <uxsee> with sash
- [21:29] <@iss> this is a good idea
- [21:29] <ebeast> ya on the Champion Diglett set
- [21:29] <uxsee> ok
- [21:30] <@blarajan> hm
- [21:30] <uxsee> scraggy!
- [21:30] <uxsee> i love me some scraggy
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- [21:30] <@blarajan> wait before we move on
- [21:30] <@blarajan> i want us to think about diglett more
- [21:30] <@blarajan> or consider other options (though i do like diglett)
- [21:31] <uxsee> okay
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- [21:31] <@blarajan> we have to think
- [21:31] <@blarajan> one) is sash the right option? or do we want to hit harder with life orb?
- [21:31] * uxsee thinks
- [21:31] <@iss> sash is good
- [21:31] <@blarajan> two) what two attacking moves? eq / rock slide or eq / sucker punch?
- [21:31] <@blarajan> three) is memento the right idea?
- [21:31] <@iss> eq sucker punch
- [21:32] <uxsee> yes
- [21:32] <@iss> memento is definitely the best choice
- [21:32] <ebeast> SR / Memento / EQ / Sucker Punch
- [21:32] <ebeast> imo
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- [21:32] <@iss|afk> i agree with ebeast
- [21:32] <uxsee> agreed
- [21:32] <@blarajan> we do have to consider
- [21:32] <@blarajan> and this is important
- [21:32] <@blarajan> by doing so, and by the addition of scraggy possibly
- [21:32] <@blarajan> we will be aggravating an almost impossible to contain murkrow weakness
- [21:32] <uxsee> okay
- [21:32] <@blarajan> offense has a ton of problems with krow
- [21:32] <@blarajan> especially life orb krow
- [21:32] <uxsee> then no scraggy
- [21:32] <@iss|afk> that's fine
- [21:32] <@blarajan> since it's insanely hard to switch in
- [21:32] <ebeast> maybe a tirtouga would work?
- [21:33] <uxsee> thats what i was thinking
- [21:33] <@iss|afk> hp grass
- [21:33] <@blarajan> hp grass isn't too common
- [21:33] <@blarajan> but even still
- [21:33] <@blarajan> easier to work around
- [21:33] <ebeast> how much would it take with Light Screen
- [21:33] <@blarajan> especially if sturdy is still there
- [21:33] <@blarajan> which is possible
- [21:33] <@blarajan> with natu
- [21:33] <uxsee> or dwebble over champion diglett D:
- [21:34] <uxsee> hmm
- [21:35] <uxsee> starmie/diglett/natu/murk counter/____/_____
- [21:35] <@iss|afk> murkrow has no counters
- [21:35] <@iss|afk> only checks
- [21:36] <uxsee> ok
- [21:36] <uxsee> 4got
- [21:36] <@blarajan> lol
- [21:36] <@iss|afk> seriously mixkrow can 2hko everything
- [21:36] <@blarajan> why sucker punch as opposed to rock slide?
- [21:36] <@iss|afk> if you predict right
- [21:36] <@blarajan> the one thing i want is to prevent krow from getting a sub on us
- [21:36] <@blarajan> cause that's devastating
- [21:36] <@blarajan> and we can just memento misdreavus
- [21:36] <@blarajan> and set something up on it
- [21:37] <uxsee> http://memegenerator.net/instance/26166804
- [21:37] <uxsee> :D
- [21:38] <uxsee> btw missy has levitate
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- [21:38] <uxsee> so how does that work
- [21:38] <@blarajan> hm?
- [21:38] <@blarajan> what do you mean?
- [21:39] <uxsee> arena trp doesnt workwith levitate
- [21:39] <@blarajan> ya missy doesn't get trapped
- [21:39] <uxsee> wait what
- [21:39] <uxsee> confused
- [21:39] <uxsee> 18:36 blarajan and we can just memento misdreavus
- [21:40] <@blarajan> i mean
- [21:40] <@blarajan> i don't think sucker punch is too important right now
- [21:40] <@blarajan> since instead of trying to play games with missy if it's in
- [21:40] <uxsee> memento into missy?
- [21:40] <@blarajan> we can just memento and set something up
- [21:40] <uxsee> oh okay
- [21:40] <@blarajan> is what i'm thinking
- [21:41] <uxsee> moving on, what next
- [21:41] <@blarajan> nah i mean that's an important decision too
- [21:41] <@blarajan> see since offense is so initiative based
- [21:41] <@blarajan> especially in lc since the tier is so bulky
- [21:41] <@blarajan> we really need to think these things through
- [21:41] <uxsee> well hmm
- [21:41] <@blarajan> what move do we want in particular? what threats would we rather respond to in a specific way?
- [21:41] <uxsee> missy has "counters" correct
- [21:42] <viamage> sorry, someone was insistant on a match, what i miss?
- [21:42] <@blarajan> um yeah the most common missy right now is just a bulky one with sball hp fight wow and psplit
- [21:42] <@blarajan> some are scarf
- [21:42] <@blarajan> some nplot
- [21:42] <@blarajan> but you can handle each one
- [21:42] <@blarajan> fairly easily
- [21:42] <uxsee> okay then rock slide
- [21:42] <@blarajan> we were debating what exactly to do with diglett, viamage?
- [21:42] <@blarajan> is anyone else here following the team building?
- [21:42] <viamage> then use memento best setup support i know
- [21:43] <viamage> *setup sweeper support
- [21:44] <@blarajan> yeah
- [21:44] <uxsee> ok so what setuppers
- [21:44] <@blarajan> i'm thinking rock slide personally but this is why we're all building it
- [21:45] <viamage> well other then missy, bronzor and krow what else would it hit with that?
- [21:45] <viamage> larvesta?
- [21:45] <@blarajan> i mean yeah
- [21:45] <@blarajan> the only reason i'm suggesting rock slide
- [21:45] <@blarajan> is so krow never can sub on us
- [21:45] <@blarajan> that's actually a really big problem
- [21:45] <@blarajan> since you know
- [21:45] <@blarajan> krow is fucking terror for offense
- [21:46] <uxsee> well ofc
- [21:46] <viamage> hmm, makes sense might as well be diglett i guess
- [21:46] <uxsee> thats why ppl use it
- [21:46] <@blarajan> i'm going to tentatively put rock slide now
- [21:46] <@blarajan> is that okay?
- [21:46] <uxsee> yes~
- [21:46] <viamage> so moving my vote to blara's rockslide
- [21:46] <@blarajan> is anyone else participating?
- [21:47] <uxsee> guess not
- [21:47] <viamage> lol
- [21:47] <@blarajan> oh well it's fine
- [21:47] <uxsee> iss was but afk
- [21:47] <@blarajan> that's fine!
- [21:47] <uxsee> okay!
- [21:47] <@blarajan> now we're at the fun part
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- [21:47] <@blarajan> we have so much opportunity to set up
- [21:48] <@blarajan> what with screens
- [21:48] <@blarajan> and memento diglett
- [21:48] <@blarajan> what were our issues before?
- [21:48] <viamage> so staryu/memento/natu or abra?
- [21:48] <@blarajan> ferroseed / rest talk chinchou / murkrow / misdreavus / drilbur / elekid / diglett / staryu / houndour / scarfers
- [21:48] <uxsee> yep
- [21:48] <@blarajan> natu > abra for u-turn and preventing hazards
- [21:48] <@blarajan> we handle ferroseed handily
- [21:48] <viamage> and ele
- [21:49] <@blarajan> ya
- [21:49] <@blarajan> natu + diglett beats chinchou
- [21:49] <@blarajan> most likely
- [21:49] <@blarajan> or just diglett
- [21:49] <viamage> and houndour
- [21:49] <@blarajan> well
- [21:49] <@blarajan> we need sash in tact for that
- [21:49] <uxsee> thas why i picked it
- [21:49] <@blarajan> we do a good job cock blocking hazards
- [21:49] <@blarajan> with natu and diglett
- [21:49] <@blarajan> but the one issue is dwebble
- [21:49] <uxsee> yes and they are a common in lc
- [21:50] <@blarajan> dwebble can hazard up on natu
- [21:50] <uxsee> diglett?
- [21:50] <uxsee> can ohko
- [21:50] <@blarajan> i mean
- [21:50] <uxsee> cnat*
- [21:50] <@blarajan> what we would probably do
- [21:50] <uxsee> cant*
- [21:50] <@blarajan> is u-turn from natu
- [21:50] <@blarajan> to diglett
- [21:50] <@blarajan> or reflect first
- [21:50] <@blarajan> then u-turn
- [21:50] <@blarajan> or something
- [21:50] <@blarajan> i guess
- [21:50] <viamage> looks like i have to quit "family time" :/ cya in 30
- [21:51] <@blarajan> lol
- [21:51] <@blarajan> looks like me and uxsee are building a team then?
- [21:51] <uxsee> pick something that can set up on dwebble
- [21:51] <ebeast> U-turn from Natu to get a bit above Oran range then kill with Staryu/Diglett?
- [21:51] <@blarajan> yeah
- [21:51] <@blarajan> something like that most likely
- [21:51] <@blarajan> probably diglett
- [21:51] <ebeast> ya
- [21:52] <uxsee> well who for set uppers
- [21:52] <@blarajan> 0 Atk Natu (-Atk) U-turn vs 36 HP/0 Def Eviolite Dwebble: 13.64% - 18.18% (6-8 hits to KO)
- [21:52] <uxsee> MAX ATTACK LEGGO
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- [21:52] <@blarajan> 252 Atk Diglett (-Atk) Rock Slide vs 36 HP/0 Def Eviolite Dwebble: 36.36% - 45.45% (3 hits to KO)
- [21:52] <@blarajan> nvm
- [21:52] <@blarajan> we're going to staryu
- [21:52] <ebeast> -Atk
- [21:52] <ebeast> ?
- [21:52] <@blarajan> ^_^
- [21:52] <@blarajan> yeah
- [21:52] <@blarajan> timid
- [21:52] <@blarajan> it's u-turn
- [21:52] <@blarajan> i don't care
- [21:52] <@blarajan> oh
- [21:52] <@blarajan> oops
- [21:52] <@blarajan> on diglett
- [21:52] <@blarajan> right
- [21:52] <uxsee> how bout make it physical lol
- [21:52] <@blarajan> sorry
- [21:52] <@blarajan> 252 Atk Diglett Rock Slide vs 36 HP/0 Def Eviolite Dwebble: 45.45% - 54.55% (2-3 hits to KO)
- [21:52] <@blarajan> calc trolled me
- [21:53] <ebeast> lol
- [21:53] <uxsee> and why not eq
- [21:53] <@blarajan> cause uh
- [21:53] <@blarajan> cause i'm not smart =P
- [21:53] <ebeast> flinch
- [21:53] <ebeast> !
- [21:53] <@blarajan> and cause rock slide can flinch
- [21:53] <uxsee> lol
- [21:53] <@blarajan> but yeah
- [21:53] <@blarajan> so you mentioned tirtouga before?
- [21:53] <@blarajan> do you get why that might be
- [21:53] <@blarajan> a really cool idea?
- [21:53] <@blarajan> for right now?
- [21:53] <uxsee> who r u asking
- [21:53] <ebeast> yeah, I think it could work
- [21:53] <@blarajan> anyone itc
- [21:53] <@blarajan> we have a ton of options now
- [21:53] <uxsee> ok then yeah
- [21:54] <@blarajan> since we can set up
- [21:54] <@blarajan> a lot
- [21:54] <ebeast> we need a check to Krow
- [21:54] <@blarajan> with screens and memento
- [21:54] <@blarajan> the problem is krow
- [21:54] <ebeast> so Tirtouga can do that
- [21:54] <@blarajan> is a big penis face
- [21:54] <@blarajan> which is why tirtouga is a fantastic recommendation
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- [21:54] <@blarajan> furthermore aqua jet can get around scarfers and drilbur
- [21:54] <ebeast> ya
- [21:54] <ebeast> Tirtouga is awesome :)
- [21:54] <uxsee> mmkay :D
- [21:54] <@blarajan> while ohkoing things like scraggy and shit
- [21:54] <@blarajan> PLUS
- [21:54] <@blarajan> with natu
- [21:54] <@blarajan> we can maintain sturdy
- [21:55] <uxsee> tl;dr tirt is pro
- [21:55] <uxsee> okay so
- [21:55] <@blarajan> now we have
- [21:55] <@blarajan> 1) dual screens natu
- [21:55] <@blarajan> 2) lo staryu
- [21:56] <ebeast> Staryu/Natu/Diglett/Tirtouga
- [21:56] <uxsee> starmie/natu/tirtoga/diglett/___/____
- [21:56] <@blarajan> 3) sr sash memento diglet
- [21:56] <@blarajan> 4) tirtouga
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- [21:56] <@blarajan> and we have some pretty cool offense going on right now too
- [21:56] <@blarajan> which gives us pretty good set up for most of the meta
- [21:56] <@blarajan> from what i can tell
- [21:56] <@blarajan> we do have issues with
- [21:56] <@blarajan> handling drilbur
- [21:56] <@blarajan> right away
- [21:56] <@blarajan> and we have issues like
- [21:56] <@blarajan> switching into scraggy
- [21:56] <@blarajan> though tbh
- [21:57] <uxsee> okay
- [21:57] <@blarajan> everything that's in can hurt scraggy enough
- [21:57] <@blarajan> to make it not a big deal
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- [21:57] <uxsee> so what can do that, exactly
- [21:57] <@blarajan> cause then diglett does enough to kill
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- [21:57] <@blarajan> let's consider our current problem areas
- [21:57] <@blarajan> lo hp grass murkrow
- [21:57] <@blarajan> is a big fat penis head
- [21:57] <@blarajan> but it trolls itself
- [21:57] <@blarajan> and tirtouga can ajet it
- [21:57] <uxsee> ofc
- [21:57] <@blarajan> mienfoo can be annoying
- [21:58] <ebeast> and Drilbur before Tirtouga smash too
- [21:58] <@iss|afk> how much does ajet do at +0
- [21:58] <@blarajan> if it keeps u-turning out of natu
- [21:58] <@blarajan> uhh to murkrow
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- [21:58] <@blarajan> not much like 40$
- [21:58] <@blarajan> 40%
- [21:58] <@blarajan> if lo
- [21:58] <@blarajan> something like that
- [21:58] <@iss|afk> ok
- [21:58] <@blarajan> 252 Atk Splash Plate Tirtouga (+Atk) Aqua Jet vs 0 HP/0 Def Murkrow: 40.91% - 54.55% (2-3 hits to KO)
- [21:58] <@blarajan> 2hko after sr
- [21:58] <uxsee> q/o smash
- [21:59] <uxsee> w/o*
- [21:59] <@blarajan> w/o
- [21:59] <@blarajan> ya
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- [21:59] <@blarajan> we might want to consider
- [21:59] <@blarajan> either more set up
- [22:00] <@blarajan> more u-turn and shit
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- [22:00] <@blarajan> or more strong
- [22:00] <uxsee> we have half of out team weak to grass
- [22:00] <@blarajan> i'm thinking we have the potential
- [22:00] <@blarajan> so a lot more set up could be cool
- [22:00] <@blarajan> true
- [22:00] <@blarajan> but the most common users of grass type attacks
- [22:00] <@blarajan> are shroomish
- [22:00] <@blarajan> lileep
- [22:00] <@blarajan> and foongus
- [22:00] <@blarajan> who natu rapes except for ancientpower lileep
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- [22:00] <uxsee> we need hp flying then
- [22:00] <@blarajan> o
- [22:00] <@blarajan> i have hp flying
- [22:00] <@blarajan> i hate murkrow remember
- [22:00] <uxsee> ok
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- [22:00] <uxsee> making sure
- [22:00] <@blarajan> for the record, charmander
- [22:00] <@blarajan> the team is
- [22:00] <@Charmander> are you doing a session
- [22:01] <uxsee> im wondering
- [22:01] <@blarajan> life orb staryu / sash sr memento diglett / dual screens natu / smash tirtouga
- [22:01] <uxsee> does max attaxk natu u turn break murkrow's sub
- [22:01] <@Charmander> sounds spicy
- [22:01] <@blarajan> uh
- [22:01] <@blarajan> max attack???
- [22:01] <uxsee> lol
- [22:01] <@blarajan> i.
- [22:01] <@blarajan> guess?
- [22:01] <@Charmander> i came here looking for a user but it looks like they arent online
- [22:01] <@blarajan> probably?
- [22:01] <@blarajan> but i'm not doing that?
- [22:01] <@blarajan> =P
- [22:01] <uxsee> it'd be pro
- [22:01] <@Charmander> dont use max attack
- [22:01] <@blarajan> okay the reasons that's a bad idea is
- [22:01] <@Charmander> krow will kill you
- [22:01] <@blarajan> it detracts from bulk
- [22:01] <@blarajan> by a lot
- [22:01] <@Charmander> never stay in on krow
- [22:01] <@blarajan> and cause we'd be risking sucker punch
- [22:02] <@blarajan> the only reason we would stay in on krow
- [22:02] <@blarajan> is if by letting it get a sub up
- [22:02] <@blarajan> we lose the game
- [22:02] <@blarajan> so we do all we can to prevent that sub
- [22:02] <@Charmander> anyway im out now
- [22:02] <@blarajan> by spamming hp flying
- [22:02] <uxsee> okay~
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- [22:02] <@blarajan> otherwise we just go to tirtouga or preferably in the next poke
- [22:02] <@blarajan> something else that can deal with it
- [22:02] <@blarajan> or set up
- [22:03] <@blarajan> as rare as it is
- [22:03] <@blarajan> we do have elekid problems if diglett's sash isn't there
- [22:03] <@blarajan> elekid, fuck drilbur, fuck krow, fuck u-turn mienfoo, scraggy kind of bitch but not really
- [22:03] <@blarajan> is where i'm looking right now
- [22:04] <@blarajan> and we have issues with opposing staryu
- [22:04] <@blarajan> i don't know i'm kind of liking like
- [22:04] <@blarajan> some sort of boosting misdreavus
- [22:04] <ebeast> NP / DBond / Shadow Ball / HP Fighting?
- [22:04] <uxsee> np missy, but that adds a weakness to scraggy
- [22:04] <@blarajan> 252 +2 SpAtk Misdreavus Hidden Power Fighting vs 0 HP/36 SpDef Eviolite Scraggy: 85.71% - 104.76% (6.25% chance to OHKO)
- [22:05] <@blarajan> au contraire
- [22:05] <uxsee> arent most dd
- [22:05] <uxsee> so outspeed
- [22:05] <@blarajan> ya but
- [22:05] <@blarajan> where does it set up here?
- [22:05] <ebeast> this is after you NP and Scraggy switches in to check
- [22:05] <uxsee> oh okay
- [22:05] <@blarajan> i like eviolite nasty plot misdreavus
- [22:05] <@blarajan> because one
- [22:05] <uxsee> i dont usually do hyper offense so this is new to me
- [22:05] <@blarajan> under screens or memento
- [22:05] <@blarajan> it's a fucking bamf
- [22:05] <@blarajan> and bulky as shit
- [22:06] <@blarajan> two it's strong
- [22:06] <@blarajan> three destiny bond lets us do cool things
- [22:06] <@blarajan> and four it checks misdreavus and lets us switch into staryu kind of
- [22:06] <@blarajan> checks mienfoo*
- [22:06] <ebeast> yeah DBond NP is my favorite set
- [22:07] <@blarajan> and it switches into eq
- [22:07] <%Danilo> taunt np is good
- [22:07] <@blarajan> either one
- [22:07] <@blarajan> nasty plot something
- [22:07] <@blarajan> we have to consider that with an offensive team
- [22:07] <uxsee> i liek dbond better
- [22:07] <@blarajan> we're working off initiative
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- [22:07] <@blarajan> so making free switches or shit like that
- [22:07] <@blarajan> is rather important
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- [22:07] <@blarajan> and missy has the bulk speed power and typing
- [22:07] <@blarajan> to come in on enough of the meta to set up
- [22:08] <uxsee> plus spinblocks our sr
- [22:08] <@blarajan> yeah
- [22:08] <@blarajan> sir
- [22:08] <@blarajan> why taunt np? (not me saying my idea is better, jw?)
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- [22:08] <uxsee> (idk)
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- [22:08] <@blarajan> danilo, if sir isn't a highlight anymore
- [22:09] <uxsee> i say dbond
- [22:09] <@blarajan> i kind of agree with ebeast in dbond since
- [22:09] <@blarajan> that forces murkrow
- [22:09] <@blarajan> to not use sucker punch
- [22:09] <@blarajan> that's the only reason
- [22:09] <%Danilo> i like taunt np
- [22:09] <%Danilo> for specific situations
- [22:09] <uxsee> starmie/natu/tirtoga/diglett/missy/____
- [22:09] <%Danilo> like thunder wave porygon
- [22:09] <%Danilo> leech seed ferroseed
- [22:09] <@blarajan> such as? once again, this is just informative
- [22:09] <@blarajan> o
- [22:09] <%Danilo> things of that nature
- [22:09] <@blarajan> the bulky pokes you'd set up on
- [22:09] <@blarajan> like lileep
- [22:09] <@blarajan> who want to status you?
- [22:09] <%Danilo> yep
- [22:09] <uxsee> cm mienfoo for the last mon :D
- [22:09] <@blarajan> that is a valid concern
- [22:09] <%Danilo> after lots of searching
- [22:10] <%Danilo> ive found that taunt is the best
- [22:10] <@blarajan> since misdreavus is one of your better lileep switch ins
- [22:10] <uxsee> dats truew
- [22:10] <%Danilo> and vs bronzor
- [22:10] <%Danilo> but who uses that srsly
- [22:10] <uxsee> we could try sub to block those
- [22:10] <%Danilo> i mean d bond and wow have their own merits
- [22:10] <%Danilo> ive just found taunt to be superior
- [22:10] <@blarajan> sub kind of takes the best of both worlds
- [22:10] <@blarajan> tbh
- [22:10] <%Danilo> it's also very uncmmon
- [22:11] <%Danilo> sub is cool
- [22:11] <@blarajan> sub messes with murkrow
- [22:11] <@blarajan> and blocks status
- [22:11] <@blarajan> so we get both sorts of things
- [22:11] <%Danilo> i keep keeping hp
- [22:11] <@blarajan> that was a really good suggestion, uxsee
- [22:11] <%Danilo> but sub is more devastating
- [22:11] <@blarajan> plus
- [22:11] <@blarajan> we have screens
- [22:11] <@blarajan> and memento support
- [22:11] <%Danilo> oh
- [22:11] <%Danilo> that seems fine then
- [22:11] <@blarajan> good idea uxsee
- [22:12] <uxsee> yay :D
- [22:12] <@blarajan> !
- [22:12] <@blarajan> we all okay with
- [22:12] <@blarajan> substitute / plot / shadow ball / hp fight misdreavus?
- [22:12] <uxsee> eviolite
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- [22:12] <uxsee> and max offenses
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- [22:13] <@blarajan> ya
- [22:13] <viamage> i'm back
- [22:13] <@blarajan> kk cool
- [22:13] <@blarajan> we decided for the last
- [22:13] <@blarajan> erm
- [22:13] <@blarajan> for the fifth
- [22:13] <@blarajan> sub plot misdreavus @ eviolite
- [22:14] <viamage> alright
- [22:14] <@blarajan> so this is looking really solid
- [22:14] <viamage> agreed
- [22:14] <&macle> im black
- [22:14] <uxsee> still elekid weak
- [22:14] <ebeast> sure
- [22:14] <@blarajan> yk i'm p okay with being elekid weak
- [22:14] <@blarajan> and i guess like
- [22:15] <ebeast> LO Staryu / SR Memento Diglett / Screens Natu / Smash Tirtouga / SubNP Missy
- [22:15] <@blarajan> we do have diglett and tirtouga (ajet)
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- [22:15] <@blarajan> it's not a travesty
- [22:15] <Friar> kinda snover weak
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- [22:15] <@blarajan> yeah just a bit
- [22:15] <@blarajan> snover was one of the current problem mons
- [22:15] <Borogoves> drilbur can also be a problem
- [22:15] <@blarajan> though we DO force it to guess
- [22:15] <Borogoves> if it has shadow claw
- [22:15] <@blarajan> drilbur isn't as concerning as snover
- [22:15] <viamage> what are the current problem mons?
- [22:15] <@blarajan> especially under screens
- [22:15] <@blarajan> and we do have tirtouga
- [22:16] <@blarajan> right now snover is a problem
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- [22:16] <uxsee> okay is there any combo mon that beats snover and elekid
- [22:16] <@blarajan> dat blizzard
- [22:16] <@blarajan> uh
- [22:16] <uxsee> im just tryin to think
- [22:16] <@blarajan> i mean like elekid isn't a huge deal either
- [22:16] <@blarajan> i guess lik
- [22:16] <@blarajan> e
- [22:16] <@blarajan> agility chinchou
- [22:16] <@blarajan> fits that criteria
- [22:16] <uxsee> larvesta owns snover
- [22:16] <@blarajan> we really have to play
- [22:16] <uxsee> but not elekid
- [22:16] <@blarajan> perfectly well
- [22:17] <@blarajan> to keep rocks off
- [22:17] <@blarajan> if we have larvesta
- [22:17] <uxsee> true
- [22:17] <@blarajan> sturdy tirtouga
- [22:17] <Friar> sun ponyta would add bulk and weather control
- [22:17] <@blarajan> and sash diglett
- [22:17] <@blarajan> all on one team
- [22:17] <ebeast> and Snover can carry HP Rock
- [22:17] <@blarajan> hm
- [22:17] <@blarajan> that's an interesting idea friar
- [22:17] <Friar> or maybe too water weak then
- [22:17] <@blarajan> that still gives us staryu problems
- [22:17] <uxsee> weakens starmie, the focus of the team
- [22:17] <uxsee> dammit nin ja
- [22:17] <@blarajan> and hurts our staryu
- [22:17] <@blarajan> we have our wall breaking staryu here
- [22:17] <@blarajan> so is there anything that like
- [22:17] <@blarajan> it smashes
- [22:18] <@blarajan> right now
- [22:18] <@blarajan> that would let something set up?
- [22:18] <uxsee> umm
- [22:18] <@blarajan> let's consider what staryu breaks
- [22:18] <@blarajan> staryu breaks appart
- [22:18] <@blarajan> croagunk
- [22:18] <@blarajan> hurts lileep
- [22:18] <@blarajan> smashes fires
- [22:18] <@blarajan> dratini
- [22:18] <uxsee> axew
- [22:19] <@blarajan> hurts waters
- [22:19] <ebeast> yeah I was about to that that Tirtouga appreciates Staryu breaking Croagunk
- [22:19] <@blarajan> etc
- [22:19] <@blarajan> yeah that was a cool part about tirt
- [22:19] <@blarajan> staryu lures gunk
- [22:19] <@blarajan> and really hurts lileep
- [22:19] <@blarajan> with lo ice beam
- [22:19] <@blarajan> which is very unexpected
- [22:19] <@blarajan> maybe we can consider this?
- [22:19] <@blarajan> we put a lot
- [22:19] <viamage> hmm
- [22:19] <@blarajan> and i mean A LOT
- [22:19] <@blarajan> of pressure on lileep
- [22:19] <@blarajan> with this team
- [22:19] <@blarajan> life orb staryu
- [22:19] <@blarajan> shell smash tirtouga
- [22:19] <@blarajan> nasty plot misdreavus
- [22:19] <@blarajan> natu
- [22:19] <@blarajan> we even have diglett
- [22:19] <@blarajan> we are a lean mean fuck lileep machine
- [22:20] <viamage> that's five pokes that shut down lileep :P
- [22:20] <@blarajan> not really shut down
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- [22:20] <uxsee> we could try scarf mienfoo
- [22:20] <@blarajan> in the case of staryu and tirtouga
- [22:20] <@blarajan> but shit that hurts
- [22:20] <uxsee> since croagunk
- [22:20] <viamage> should we have a cleric?
- [22:20] <@blarajan> yes that's definitely on track with what i was looking at
- [22:20] <uxsee> and it gains momentum
- [22:20] <@blarajan> well viamage
- [22:20] <uxsee> with u turn
- [22:20] <@blarajan> if we have a turn to heal
- [22:20] <@blarajan> heal bell*
- [22:20] <@blarajan> wouldn't we rather smash something?
- [22:20] <uxsee> and shits on snover and non scarfed elekid
- [22:21] <uxsee> and it NEVER dies
- [22:21] <@blarajan> well it doesn't really shit on snover
- [22:21] <uxsee> well it outspeeds an go
- [22:21] <@blarajan> cause blizzard will ohko
- [22:21] <viamage> i guess, but we're really running a team of glass cannons now
- [22:21] <uxsee> koes*
- [22:21] <uxsee> or bulky
- [22:21] <@blarajan> that's kind of the point though viamage
- [22:21] <uxsee> so it can take a hit
- [22:21] <viamage> lol, you're so right
- [22:21] <uxsee> but that doesnt work on this team
- [22:21] <@blarajan> we have to consider the most common sets
- [22:21] <uxsee> he adds to murk weakness too
- [22:21] <@blarajan> and spreads
- [22:21] <@blarajan> and try to break through
- [22:22] <@blarajan> i was kind of liking
- [22:22] <@blarajan> agility chinchou
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- [22:22] <@blarajan> kind of
- [22:22] <@blarajan> or at least playing with the idea in my head
- [22:22] <@blarajan> since it outruns drilbur after an agility
- [22:22] <@blarajan> and since we put so much pressure on lileep
- [22:22] <@blarajan> it could be a cool cleaner
- [22:22] <@blarajan> but i'm sure there are better ideas out there
- [22:22] <Friar> wouldnt rain help us more than agility
- [22:22] <@blarajan> oh
- [22:22] <@blarajan> fantastic
- [22:22] <@blarajan> FANTASTIC
- [22:22] <uxsee> rain murkrow!
- [22:22] <@blarajan> idea
- [22:22] <viamage> scarf porygon!
- [22:23] <uxsee> :D
- [22:23] <@blarajan> some sort of swift swimmer
- [22:23] <@blarajan> could be really cool
- [22:23] <@blarajan> to both clean up
- [22:23] <uxsee> lets think
- [22:23] <@blarajan> and boost tirtouga
- [22:23] <@blarajan> or staryu
- [22:23] <@blarajan> and to keep sash / sturdy in tact
- [22:23] <@blarajan> by removing hail
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- [22:23] <uxsee> okay so
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- [22:23] <uxsee> buizel
- [22:24] <uxsee> horsea
- [22:24] <uxsee> tympole
- [22:24] <uxsee> finneon
- [22:24] <ebeast> Mantyke
- [22:24] <@blarajan> horsea or mantyke
- [22:24] <@blarajan> imo
- [22:24] <uxsee> MAGIKARP
- [22:24] <uxsee> :D
- [22:24] <@blarajan> .
- [22:24] <uxsee> lotad
- [22:24] <viamage> rofl, totally magi!
- [22:24] <ebeast> Horsea I think, we are kind of weak to Rock as it is
- [22:24] <@blarajan> omanyte clashes too much with tirtouga too
- [22:24] <@blarajan> they're like the same pokemon
- [22:24] <@blarajan> at that point
- [22:25] <uxsee> actually i was leaning more towards mantyke
- [22:25] <@blarajan> oh?
- [22:25] <@blarajan> why?
- [22:25] <@blarajan> (not a jab, just a question)
- [22:25] <ebeast> though Mantyke can be a buffer towards Snover
- [22:25] <viamage> well does lotad have any merits other than additional sr resisting?
- [22:25] <uxsee> well its not weak to any of snovers mvoes
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- [22:25] <uxsee> umm grass typing
- [22:26] <@blarajan> lotad?
- [22:26] <@blarajan> lotad is weak as balls
- [22:26] <uxsee> it sux though
- [22:26] <@blarajan> do not want
- [22:26] <viamage> ok just checking :P
- [22:26] <ebeast> pstats, horsea
- [22:26] <+pstats> Horsea [Water] Swift Swim/Sniper/Damp (DW) | 30/40/70/70/25/60 | LC | GK/LK: 20 BP
- [22:26] <@blarajan> one relatively decent poke
- [22:26] <@blarajan> could be lol
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- [22:26] <ebeast> pstats, mantyke
- [22:26] <@blarajan> surskit
- [22:26] <+pstats> Mantyke [Water/Flying] Swift Swim/Water Absorb/Water Veil (DW) | 45/20/50/60/120/50 | LC | GK/LK: 80 BP
- [22:26] <@blarajan> cause STAB signal beam
- [22:26] <@blarajan> lol
- [22:26] <uxsee> oooh
- [22:26] <viamage> nice physical bulk
- [22:27] <uxsee> XD
- [22:27] <viamage> takes 1 stray thundershock and we're screwd though :P
- [22:27] <@blarajan> lol
- [22:27] <uxsee> lol
- [22:27] <@blarajan> do we like this idea?
- [22:27] <@blarajan> a swift swimmer?
- [22:27] <@blarajan> or agility poke?
- [22:28] <@blarajan> i think speed
- [22:28] <Snowflakes> ss
- [22:28] <@blarajan> is the best here
- [22:28] <ebeast> how do we deal with opposing Chinchou again?
- [22:28] <@blarajan> well
- [22:28] <@blarajan> it's primarily diglett
- [22:28] <uxsee> lol
- [22:28] <@blarajan> it's not hard to u-turn in or switch in predicting an electric attack
- [22:28] <viamage> i'm still leaning towards scarf pory, but i would choose sswimmer if i had too
- [22:28] <@blarajan> since we have so much bait
- [22:28] <@blarajan> why scarf pory?
- [22:28] <ebeast> to trace Sand Rush
- [22:28] <@blarajan> in case anyone here is new to lc
- [22:29] <viamage> great coverage and it outspeeds everything
- [22:29] <@blarajan> pory is cool in that it's the only scarfer that can revenge drilbur
- [22:29] <@blarajan> actually
- [22:29] <@blarajan> not true
- [22:29] <@blarajan> it doesn't outrun anything
- [22:29] <@blarajan> it's actually only 14 speed
- [22:29] <viamage> with a scarf though
- [22:29] <@blarajan> 21
- [22:29] <@blarajan> so outrun by
- [22:29] <ebeast> yeah it's not outspeeding +1 Scrafty
- [22:29] <@blarajan> +1 scraggy and all scarfers
- [22:29] <ebeast> o*Scraggy
- [22:29] <uxsee> it "helps" with snover
- [22:29] <&SevenDeadlySins> the magic 14 is an outmoded concept
- [22:29] <&SevenDeadlySins> back when people didnt like running scarves
- [22:29] <viamage> sorry forgot to put *unboosted :P
- [22:30] <&SevenDeadlySins> and 18-20 speed stuff ruled the land
- [22:30] <@blarajan> 14 is a big scarf number still sds
- [22:30] <@blarajan> 14 or 19 are the only real common scarfers
- [22:30] <&SevenDeadlySins> i know
- [22:30] <&SevenDeadlySins> but it means way less than it used to
- [22:30] <ebeast> for this team we need more speed is the thing though
- [22:30] <@blarajan> yeah
- [22:30] <@blarajan> i kind of like
- [22:30] <@blarajan> mantyke
- [22:30] <@blarajan> since it can switch in on snover
- [22:30] <@blarajan> easily
- [22:30] <@blarajan> and has air slash now
- [22:30] <@blarajan> so like
- [22:30] <@blarajan> rd
- [22:30] <@blarajan> surf / hydro
- [22:30] <@blarajan> air slash
- [22:30] <@blarajan> ice beam
- [22:30] <viamage> sigh, sorry pory swimming it is
- [22:30] <@blarajan> it does well against lileep
- [22:31] <uxsee> rain dance w/ damp rock
- [22:31] <@blarajan> life orb
- [22:31] <&SevenDeadlySins> oh whatthe fuck
- [22:31] <&SevenDeadlySins> mantyke gets air slash now?
- [22:31] <uxsee> why lo
- [22:31] <@blarajan> yeah
- [22:31] <ebeast> yeah
- [22:31] <@blarajan> cause it should be end game uxsee
- [22:31] <@blarajan> we don't need eight rain turns
- [22:31] <@blarajan> as opposed to
- [22:31] <uxsee> olay
- [22:31] <ebeast> waiting for 6th gen Hurricane Mantyke now
- [22:31] <@blarajan> STRONGTH ATTACKS
- [22:31] <uxsee> okay*
- [22:31] <viamage> rofl
- [22:31] <viamage> i want that mantyke on my team
- [22:31] <@blarajan> plus
- [22:31] <@blarajan> air slash flinches are cute
- [22:31] <uxsee> yep
- [22:32] <ebeast> yeah
- [22:32] <uxsee> so thats the team then?
- [22:32] <@blarajan> the biggest reason is
- [22:32] <@blarajan> mantyke is fucking ADORABLE
- [22:32] <@blarajan> oh my jesus fuck
- [22:32] <@blarajan> it's so cute
- [22:32] <@blarajan> what moves?
- [22:32] <@blarajan> rain dance
- [22:32] <@blarajan> hydro pump
- [22:32] <@blarajan> air slash
- [22:32] <&SevenDeadlySins> i would still say hp ground/grass over either air slash or ice beam
- [22:32] <@blarajan> and what's the last?
- [22:32] <@blarajan> yeah i agree with probably hp grass
- [22:32] <&SevenDeadlySins> otherwise chinch eats your existence
- [22:33] <viamage> it would be nice to have chinc support
- [22:33] <uxsee> http://tinyurl.com/ywblajaran
- [22:33] <@blarajan> what do you mean, viamage?
- [22:33] <ebeast> LO Staryu / SR Memento Diglett / Screens Natu / Shell Smash Tirtouga / RD Mantyke / NP Missy
- [22:33] <ebeast> atm
- [22:33] <viamage> well atm we're relying on diglett, what if he's gone?
- [22:33] <@blarajan> he won't be
- [22:33] <uxsee> were screwed
- [22:33] <uxsee> etc etc
- [22:33] <@blarajan> that's how you have to play these teams
- [22:33] <@blarajan> remember?
- [22:34] <@blarajan> offense teams are made to put pressure on the opponent
- [22:34] <@blarajan> you can sack mons if you have to
- [22:34] <@blarajan> you don't need to conserve every mon
- [22:34] <@blarajan> the whole point is setting up a sweep
- [22:34] <@blarajan> or breaking things through
- [22:34] <viamage> *ok face*
- [22:34] <@blarajan> to let you smash things
- [22:34] <@blarajan> right now we have
- [22:34] <@blarajan> natu
- [22:34] <@blarajan> mantyke
- [22:34] <uxsee> im saccing mantye everytime
- [22:34] <@blarajan> staryu
- [22:34] <uxsee> cuz so cute
- [22:34] <@blarajan> and uh
- [22:34] <@blarajan> tirtouga
- [22:34] <@blarajan> we have FOUR things electric weak
- [22:34] <@blarajan> this sounds bad
- [22:34] <@blarajan> but it's not
- [22:34] <@blarajan> at least for a team like this
- [22:34] <@blarajan> the most common user of an electric attack
- [22:34] <@blarajan> is chinchou
- [22:34] <@blarajan> right?
- [22:34] <@blarajan> so
- [22:34] <uxsee> yes
- [22:34] <ebeast> yeah
- [22:34] <@blarajan> what does it do?
- [22:34] <viamage> agreed
- [22:35] <@blarajan> does it use tbolt / volt switch?
- [22:35] <@blarajan> trying to kill the mon?
- [22:35] <viamage> votl switch :P
- [22:35] <@blarajan> when we have diglett?
- [22:35] <@blarajan> to fuck its shit up?
- [22:35] <ebeast> we play carefully with Diglett and take it down
- [22:35] <@blarajan> or does it predict diglett
- [22:35] <@blarajan> and completely fuck itself
- [22:35] <uxsee> we let it die and then send in diglett
- [22:35] <@blarajan> against everything open?
- [22:35] <@blarajan> answer: it's screwed
- [22:35] <@blarajan> it can handle something
- [22:35] <viamage> then we shread through things :D
- [22:35] <@blarajan> but then diglett fucks its shit up
- [22:35] <@blarajan> it can get one kill at most
- [22:35] <@blarajan> and generally zero
- [22:35] <@blarajan> since the chinchou user would be more scared by the thought of getting trapped by diglet
- [22:35] <@blarajan> t
- [22:35] <uxsee> memento~
- [22:35] <@blarajan> and losing its main check
- [22:35] <@blarajan> to four of our mons
- [22:35] <@blarajan> than to play risky
- [22:36] <@blarajan> i think this is fantastic right now
- [22:36] <@blarajan> since we put so much pressure on chinchou and lileep
- [22:36] <@blarajan> that we break through really easily
- [22:36] <@blarajan> also
- [22:36] <@blarajan> do i go for 19 hp on mantyke?
- [22:36] <uxsee> starmie/natu/tirtoga/diglett/missy/mantyke
- [22:36] <uxsee> explain
- [22:36] <uxsee> for sr?
- [22:37] <ebeast> 19 HP means it's only taking 1 HP damage from LO
- [22:37] <uxsee> oh okay
- [22:37] <ebeast> as apposed to 2
- [22:37] <@blarajan> 10% of 20 is 2
- [22:37] <@blarajan> 10% of 19 is 1.9
- [22:37] <@blarajan> which rounds down to 1
- [22:37] <uxsee> wow lol
- [22:37] <@blarajan> mantyke originally gets 21 hp
- [22:37] <@blarajan> 0 ivs puts it at 19
- [22:37] <@blarajan> is that worth it?
- [22:37] <Friar> with screens i think so
- [22:37] <@blarajan> me too
- [22:37] <uxsee> yes and it also allows it to wsitch it into sr 4 times
- [22:37] <uxsee> wait no
- [22:37] <uxsee> lo
- [22:38] <uxsee> nvm
- [22:38] <ebeast> it does both
- [22:38] <@blarajan> http://pastebin.com/SwSCrP7P
- [22:38] <@blarajan> is the team in its current interation
- [22:38] <@blarajan> keep in mind mantyke has 2 hp ivs
- [22:39] <@blarajan> everything else is standard
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