>BLOC alliance banks & governments

Discord: Oppressive-Games #general 2016 Jun 27

[1:08 PM] rumsod: http://i.imgur.com/hoymGLm.png
[1:09 PM] Gememe: >alliance bank
[1:09 PM] Gememe: shieeeet
[1:09 PM] rumsod: also going to add democratic alliances
[1:10 PM] Smyrno: Is there a limit to how many times you can withdraw?
[1:10 PM] rumsod: once per turn
[1:10 PM] Smyrno: Also, is that tax customisable and will there be an alliance bank log
[1:10 PM] rumsod: tax is customizable
[1:10 PM] rumsod: there will be a log
[1:10 PM] rumsod: tax is max 50%
[1:10 PM] Smyrno: sweet
[1:12 PM] Selassie: hm, what's the point of the tax ??
[1:13 PM] Selassie: where does the taxed money goes ?
[1:13 PM] Gememe: to the alliance bank
[1:14 PM] Selassie: oy, then what's the point ?
[1:14 PM] Selassie: just gives 100k and it gives 100k, gives 150 instead of putting 50% tax
[1:14 PM] Selassie: same for withdrawing, withdraw half as much
[1:15 PM] rumsod: withdrawal limit is customizable
[1:15 PM] rumsod: and defaults to 0
[1:15 PM] rumsod: except for founder and officers, which can withdraw as much as they want
[1:15 PM] Selassie: sounds good, but i still don't see the point of the tax
[1:16 PM] rumsod: collects money from members for the alliance to spend as it wishes
[1:17 PM] Selassie: oh, so it directly collects % from the money you get every 5 minutes ?
[1:17 PM] rumsod: yes
[1:17 PM] Robosax: @alysdexia Those forums were edited
[1:17 PM] Selassie: thought it was tax on withdrawals and stuff
[1:17 PM] Selassie: makes much more sense now
[1:17 PM] Monster Island: @rumsod can you fix the manpower counter?
[1:17 PM] Monster Island: I withdraw 2k troops but it goes down 4k
[1:17 PM] Selassie: and it's great, we won't have to have bank countries anymore
[1:18 PM] Selassie: but can't it be abused since you can't raid an alliance bank ?
[1:18 PM] Selassie: though i guess it's just money
[1:18 PM] Robosax: Wait
[1:18 PM] Robosax: Are these bloc of TRW updates
[1:18 PM] Robosax: Or
[1:19 PM] Gememe: bloc i think
[1:19 PM] Robosax: Lol Rumsod once said he didn't like the idea of an alliance bank
[1:19 PM] Dogtown: Alliance bank works in TRW too
[1:20 PM] Robosax: Huh
[1:20 PM] Robosax: It's already in TRW?
[1:20 PM] Dogtown: No, but I see no reason not to implement it in TRW
[1:21 PM] Robosax: Reset when @rumsod
[1:22 PM] Robosax: What happened to that military update?
[1:26 PM] Gememe: >inb4 no response
[1:29 PM] rumsod: http://i.imgur.com/4mGkYfI.png
[1:31 PM] Robosax: When are you going add this?
[1:31 PM] Robosax: Today?
[1:31 PM] Robosax: Or SOON
[1:32 PM] rumsod: everything is doen except taxes atm
[1:32 PM] Robosax: So
[1:32 PM] Robosax: SOON
[1:32 PM] Robosax: How will taxes even work(edited)
[1:32 PM] Robosax: Collected every 5 minutes?
[1:32 PM] rumsod: they take out of your budget increase yeah
[1:33 PM] Pars: @rumsod Are regional superpowers still int he pipeline?
[1:33 PM] Pars: *in the
[1:33 PM] Pars: >inb4 Brain escapes to tax haven
[1:33 PM] Robosax: Regional powers are the new regional wonders
[1:34 PM] Pars: ??
[1:34 PM] Pars: Oh
[1:34 PM] Pars: 😦
[1:34 PM] Robosax: He was going add specific buildings to capture
[1:34 PM] Pars: I get it now
[1:34 PM] Robosax: In each region
[1:34 PM] Pars: Stop robo
[1:34 PM] Pars: IM gonna be a superpower
[1:34 PM] Pars: dont ruin this for me
[1:34 PM] Pars: 😭
[1:34 PM] Robosax: Lol
[1:34 PM] Robosax: Maybe next Friday
[1:37 PM] Pars: 😦
[1:39 PM] Pars: @rumsod Can we set individual nation tax rates as officers?
[1:39 PM] rumsod: tax rates for individual nations?
[1:39 PM] rumsod: no, its a blanket tax across nations
[1:39 PM] rumsod: all in alliance
[1:40 PM] Pars: No I meant
[1:40 PM] Pars: Can we modify it
[1:40 PM] Pars: For individual nations
[1:41 PM] Pars: Like say our blanket tax rate is 20%
[1:41 PM] rumsod: you cannot
[1:41 PM] Pars: We should be able to tax a nation more
[1:41 PM] Pars: y not 😦
[1:41 PM] Selassie: because it'd be annoying as fuck to add
[1:41 PM] Selassie: you'd have to have flags, groups and fuck
[1:41 PM] Dogtown: You can get just reimburse/force people to deposit instead
[1:42 PM] rumsod: yep
[1:42 PM] Selassie: idk what database rumsod uses, but it can be pretty annoying to do specific things
[1:42 PM] Selassie: especially when you want to have it being modulable
[1:43 PM] Pars: True
[1:43 PM] Pars: Like have a higher tax rate
[1:43 PM] Pars: And then a redistribution for good behavoir or whatever fuck else
[1:43 PM] Pars: I see no way this is going to be abuse
[1:44 PM] Pars: Impossible
[1:45 PM] Pars: @rumsod Are regional powers still gonan be a thing tho
[1:45 PM] Pars: Going to be funny
[1:46 PM] Pars: When you get double taxed
[1:46 PM] Pars: By your superpower
[1:46 PM] Pars: And ur alliance
[1:46 PM] Pars: kek
[1:46 PM] Pars: More realistic tho
[1:46 PM] Selassie: oy
[1:46 PM] Selassie: the proletariat class will revolt
[1:46 PM] rumsod: http://i.imgur.com/awVD3jS.png
[1:46 PM] Selassie: against the bourgeoisie
[1:47 PM] Selassie: brb, gonna create taxless alliance
[1:47 PM] Selassie: kek
[1:48 PM] uranistan: YES
[1:48 PM] uranistan: WE CAN BE TRUE COMMIES NOW
[1:48 PM] uranistan: THANK YOU @rumsod
[1:48 PM] Pars: 100% TAX RATE INC
[1:48 PM] uranistan: not enough
[1:48 PM] Selassie: TAX EVERYTHING
[1:48 PM] uranistan: 110% or bust
[1:48 PM] Selassie: ALL THE RM, MG AND OIL, INTO THE BANK
[1:48 PM] Pars: >rumsod not responding about regional superpowers
[1:48 PM] Pars: >officially ded
[1:48 PM] Selassie: EVEN TROOPS INTO THE BANK
[1:48 PM] Pars: R I P
[1:48 PM] Pars: y u do this to us rum
1:49 PM] uranistan: @rumsod make it possible to tax over 100% so we can be true commies
[1:49 PM] Gememe: good idea comrade
[1:49 PM] uranistan: the extra taxes would fuck with qol+stab
[1:49 PM] uranistan: for realism
[1:49 PM] Pars: http://www.blocgame.com/forums/index.php?topic=4431.0
Rummy Plans to Add Alliance Banks and Tax Rates
[1:49 PM] Pars: Discussion thread up
[1:49 PM] Selassie: kek, the guy would have to sell rm and oil jus tto pay taxes
[1:50 PM] BigWilly: HAHAHAHAHAHA
[1:50 PM] Robosax: 200% tax or bust
[1:50 PM] Lyranistan: AYYY LMAO
[1:50 PM] BigWilly: ICELAND BEAT ENGLAND
[1:50 PM] Lyranistan: ISLAND WINS
[1:50 PM] Lyranistan: ENGLAND BTFO
[1:50 PM] Monster Island: WEW LAD
[1:51 PM] uranistan: vikings>saxons
[1:51 PM] BigWilly: BREXIT TWICE IN 1 WEEK
[1:51 PM] uranistan: it is known
[1:51 PM] Pars: RIP
[1:51 PM] dmc5: Ahahahahahah
[1:51 PM] dmc5: ICELAND
[1:51 PM] Pars: RIPRIRPRIPRIRPRIRPRIRPIRP
[1:51 PM] Pars: I C E L A N D
[1:51 PM] Lyranistan: http://img.pr0gramm.com/2016/06/27/3215a1aabc1aa156.jpg
[1:51 PM] Smyrno: what
[1:51 PM] Smyrno: what happened
[1:51 PM] Robosax: Lol
[1:51 PM] Smyrno: did we die
[1:51 PM] dmc5: IN EVERY FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP
[1:51 PM] Smyrno: please send help
[1:52 PM] Selassie: Wales is gonna go further than England, kek
[1:52 PM] Robosax: When was the last time the English even won?
[1:52 PM] dmc5: There is 1 noname team that goes quarter final or higher
[1:52 PM] uranistan: when they invented the game
[1:52 PM] Smyrno: BigWilly - Today at 9:51 PM
BREXIT TWICE IN 1 WEEK
[1:52 PM] Smyrno: what
[1:52 PM] dmc5: They got btfo
[1:52 PM] dmc5: By Iceland
[1:52 PM] Lyranistan: DESTROYED HARD
[1:52 PM] Smyrno: oh
[1:52 PM] dmc5: 300k people
[1:53 PM] Smyrno: football
[1:53 PM] Smyrno: anyone can beat england in just about every sport except cricket
[1:53 PM] Robosax: Cricket?
[1:54 PM] Smyrno: yep
[1:54 PM] Monster Island: >Cricket
[1:54 PM] dmc5: Does anyone else play it?
[1:54 PM] Monster Island: >AUstralia won the last world cup
[1:54 PM] Smyrno: yee lol
[1:54 PM] Smyrno: india's a big cricket player
[1:54 PM] Smyrno: australia too
[1:54 PM] Robosax: Don't they get owned by India and Pakistan?
[1:54 PM] Monster Island: Didn't you place under Afganistan the last cricket world cup?
[1:54 PM] Smyrno: we are afghanistan mate
[1:55 PM] Monster Island: Is there any sport England is good at other than Darts and Snooker?
[1:58 PM] BigWilly: no
[1:58 PM] Robosax: Uh
[1:58 PM] Robosax: Polo?
[2:07 PM] uranistan: btw @rumsod  will we be able to contrubitue randomly to the bank, or will taxes be the only way?
[2:08 PM] Dogtown: Can make donations
[2:10 PM] rumsod: bank should work
[2:10 PM] rumsod: tell me if you get any bugs
[2:10 PM] rumsod: taxes arent being collected right at the moment
[2:11 PM] dmc5: When will they be added?
[2:11 PM] Smyrno: 10 minutes ago
[2:11 PM] Eugen Van Kleist: Where's the bank=
[2:11 PM] Eugen Van Kleist: ?
[2:11 PM] rumsod: ok taxes are now working
[2:11 PM] rumsod: go to alliance page
[2:11 PM] Smyrno: officers can't change the settings 😦
[2:11 PM] Robosax: Lol
[2:11 PM] Eugen Van Kleist: This adds a whole new level
[2:12 PM] Opal: Only God can choose your tax rate now
[2:12 PM] Smyrno: 100% tax rate when
[2:12 PM] dmc5: Rumsod
[2:12 PM] dmc5: How do I donate to the bank?
[2:12 PM] rumsod: yeah atm only founders can
[2:12 PM] rumsod: http://i.imgur.com/dz1Ev5K.png
[2:12 PM] rumsod: put money amount in there
[2:12 PM] rumsod: click donate
[2:12 PM] rumsod: lol
[2:13 PM] BigWilly: large
[2:13 PM] BigWilly: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl_Hx-XWIAAPp3c.jpg:large
[2:14 PM] rumsod: holy shit did iceland beat england
[2:14 PM] Robosax: Yee
[2:14 PM] Monster Island: @rumsod I have a bug to tell
[2:14 PM] dmc5:
[2:14 PM] rumsod: scroll down dmc5
[2:14 PM] dmc5: There is no such button
[2:14 PM] rumsod: its not in the admin panel
[2:14 PM] Smyrno: its not in the settings
[2:14 PM] dmc5: Nvm
[2:15 PM] dmc5: Tnx
[2:17 PM] Monster Island: @rumsod please fix Manpower
[2:17 PM] rumsod: oh lol i forgot to add the taxes actually going into the bank
[2:17 PM] Smyrno: does it tax trade too?
[2:17 PM] rumsod: works now
[2:17 PM] rumsod: no
[2:18 PM] dmc5: Is the max withdrawal one time or in a time period?
[2:20 PM] dmc5: If one time please make it 1 turn
[2:21 PM] dmc5: And give officers and founder infinite max withdrawal
[2:22 PM] rumsod: its every 12 hours
[2:22 PM] dmc5: Cool
[2:22 PM] dmc5: What about officers and founder?
[2:23 PM] Robosax: What's next Rumsod?
[2:23 PM] Robosax: Military update? Regional update?
[2:23 PM] Pars: REGIONAL SUPERPOWERS
[2:23 PM] dmc5: WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP OF YOUR MASTER PLAN
[2:23 PM] dmc5: ??
[2:23 PM] Gememe: kek
[2:23 PM] dmc5: RESET THIS GAME
[2:24 PM] dmc5: WITH NO SURVIVORS???
[2:24 PM] Monster Island: HOW ABOUT FIXING THE DAMN MANPOWER
[2:24 PM] dmc5: What about it?
[2:24 PM] Robosax: Good idea
[2:24 PM] Monster Island: Conscripting drops 4k instead of 2k off the meter
[2:24 PM] Robosax: Reset when?
[2:25 PM] Robosax: Bloc 3.9985 when
[2:25 PM] dmc5: Just add a 9 every time
[2:25 PM] dmc5: 3.999
[2:25 PM] Robosax: Hm
[2:25 PM] Robosax: Maybe not a 8
[2:25 PM] Pars: Who even started this retardation
[2:26 PM] Robosax: But the 5 needs to stay
[2:26 PM] dmc5: Robosax
[2:26 PM] Robosax: Lol
[2:26 PM] rumsod: im aware monster island
[2:26 PM] Smyrno: descending logs
[2:26 PM] Smyrno: rip
[2:26 PM] rumsod: please stop saying it over and over
[2:26 PM] dmc5: Or rumsod if we're talkin about the game pars
[2:26 PM] rumsod: im working on this atm
[2:27 PM] dmc5: Alliance memer filters
[2:35 PM] Smyrno: could you add a statistic that shows how much money is being brought in by taxation
[2:35 PM] rumsod: bank logs now have newest withdrawals and stuff at top
[2:35 PM] rumsod: hm
[2:38 PM] uranistan: @rumsod  spies robbing banks when
[2:40 PM] rumsod: hm
[2:40 PM] rumsod: not a terrible idea
[2:40 PM] Robosax: Lol
[2:42 PM] uranistan: make spies great again(edited)
[2:53 PM] rumsod: officers can now set tax and max withdrawals
[3:01 PM] dmc5: @rumsod pls make it so first officer gets founder if current leader goes 150+h offline
[3:02 PM] Smyrno: 21 mil in taxation every turn
[3:02 PM] Smyrno: :^)
[3:07 PM] Robosax: @dmc5 are you going somewhere?
[3:07 PM] Robosax: It's 240 hours right now
[3:07 PM] dmc5: No
[3:08 PM] dmc5: I meant the WB situation
[3:08 PM] dmc5: Trump has the same thing
[3:11 PM] DeutschAfrika: @rumsod can you add in resource caches that people can contribute to?
[3:13 PM] Robosax: What?
[3:13 PM] Robosax: Trump doesn't have a first officer
[3:14 PM] Robosax: I gained leader of Innawoods once Kaiser went inactive
[3:14 PM] Robosax: I'm pretty sure it's 240 hours
[3:17 PM] dmc5: Trump has cutopia
[3:17 PM] dmc5: As first officer
[3:18 PM] dmc5: And large man stayed FO for a month or more tho
[3:23 PM] Monster Island: What's the odds of the OPS event happening?
[3:25 PM] Gememe: impossibly low
[3:26 PM] dmc5: I didn't get junta for 1.5 months
[3:27 PM] dmc5: Then got 3 in 2 days
[3:28 PM] Selassie: events are triggered when rumsod wills it
[3:28 PM] Selassie: mostly it's when he has good cocaine and someone just subscribed
[3:28 PM] Selassie: so
[3:28 PM] Selassie: never
[3:47 PM] rumsod: http://i.imgur.com/3Y0HCWX.png
[3:47 PM] Smyrno: What's the difference between Democratic and Dictatorship alliances
[3:47 PM] Smyrno: are you going to add elections
[3:47 PM] rumsod: lol
[3:47 PM] rumsod: good timing
[3:48 PM] Smyrno: kek
[3:48 PM] rumsod: all alliances will default as dictatorships
[3:48 PM] rumsod: but founders can change them to democracies
[3:48 PM] rumsod: each turn change the nation with the most votes is set as the founder
[3:48 PM] Smyrno: that's dangerous lol
[3:49 PM] rumsod: itll make alliance politics interesting 😃
[3:49 PM] dmc5: >each turn change
[3:49 PM] dmc5: Lol
[3:49 PM] rumsod: you dont have to vote each turn
[3:49 PM] rumsod: you can vote whenever and your vote sticks
[3:49 PM] rumsod: but you can also change it whenever
[3:49 PM] dmc5: Inb4 leader gets ousted in a war because he racked up tax
[3:50 PM] dmc5: Make it like
[3:50 PM] dmc5: 10 turns
[3:50 PM] dmc5: Alliances are symbols of stability
[3:50 PM] dmc5: Not a dogfight for power
[3:50 PM] rumsod: not anymore
[3:51 PM] rumsod: well, dictatorships will be
[3:51 PM] dmc5: Lol
[3:51 PM] Monster Island: No
[3:51 PM] Monster Island: This is resonable
[3:51 PM] Monster Island: It works EXACTLY like this in Nationstates
[3:51 PM] rumsod: if a founder goes inactive than alliances automatically become democracies
[3:51 PM] rumsod: yeah stole this from NS
[3:51 PM] dmc5: Inb4 they sue you
[3:51 PM] Monster Island: I find the turnchange founder thing resonable
[3:51 PM] Monster Island: But only if the guy isn't the real founder
[3:52 PM] Smyrno: rip
[3:52 PM] Girard: >each turn change
[3:52 PM] Girard: Make it once a week or something
[3:52 PM] Girard: Changing each turn change is meme tier
[3:53 PM] Monster Island: It makes the game interesting
[3:53 PM] Monster Island: Lets coups happen
[3:53 PM] Girard: It's too often
[3:53 PM] Monster Island: How often you could get enough votes
[3:53 PM] Monster Island: To coup an alliance
[3:53 PM] rumsod: again, you dont have to vote each turn
[3:53 PM] Girard: Ahh
[3:53 PM] Monster Island: Your votes stay right?
[3:53 PM] rumsod: yes
[3:53 PM] Girard: Missed that bit
[3:54 PM] Girard: Ok that sounds cool
[3:54 PM] rumsod: you vote, and until you cahnge it or leave the alliance it stays for that naton
[3:54 PM] Monster Island: Can I vote to more than one candidate? Like a certain different nation game?
[3:54 PM] rumsod: having to vote every turn would suck
[3:54 PM] rumsod: no
[3:54 PM] Smyrno: Test Nation will make 50 multis and rig your elections
[3:54 PM] Girard: You should add regional superpowers
[3:54 PM] Girard: And they get double votes
[3:54 PM] Monster Island: wew lade
[3:55 PM] Girard: Would there be any advantage to being a democracy?
[3:55 PM] Girard: Maybe everyone in the alliance would get more US rep points or something?
[3:55 PM] Girard: +1 US rep from democratic alliance
[3:55 PM] Smyrno: that could make the whole east and west thing more interesting
[3:56 PM] Smyrno: us-aligned alliances
[3:56 PM] Girard: make it matter on an alliance level
[3:56 PM] Girard: Yee
[3:57 PM] rumsod: eh
[3:57 PM] rumsod: dunno if i want alliance governments to have to be tied to alignment
[3:58 PM] Girard: Well give alliances a serious incentive to go democracy at least
[3:58 PM] Girard: Or no one will use it
[3:58 PM] rumsod: i think members might demand it
[3:59 PM] rumsod: in some cases
[3:59 PM] Girard: Cos risk without reward
[3:59 PM] rumsod: or members will want to join democratic alliances
[3:59 PM] Girard: Members are mostly sheep
[3:59 PM] Girard: And know that dictatorship alliances are stronger and more stable
[3:59 PM] Smyrno: dictatorships get +1 soviet then
[3:59 PM] Girard: Most people don't want to be in an alliance that collapses because of shenanigans
[4:00 PM] Girard: And democracy would be more at risk of that
[4:01 PM] dmc5: How about
[4:02 PM] dmc5: If people have same alignment as alliance they get 3 more RP with that superpower
[4:02 PM] Monster Island: How about just make it visual
[4:02 PM] dmc5: Visual?
[4:02 PM] Monster Island: Make it so it's just aesthetic and doesn't add to gameplay
[4:03 PM] dmc5: Hmm
[4:03 PM] rumsod: what?
[4:03 PM] Monster Island: Aligned alliances
[4:03 PM] Monster Island: Just make it for show
[4:04 PM] Selassie: no aligned alliances, otherwise west will be banned
[4:04 PM] Selassie: soviet is stronger atm, and most ppl are soviet
[4:04 PM] Selassie: if you do aligned alliances, all the alliances will ask to be soviet
[4:04 PM] rumsod: id like aligned alliances, just not tied
[4:04 PM] Selassie: it'd be even worse diversity than now
[4:04 PM] rumsod: to alliance governments
[4:05 PM] rumsod: eh, it could just be +1 if aligned with the rp, and no change it not aligned
[4:05 PM] Selassie: yeah, but why ? it's just another soviet buff
[4:07 PM] Monster Island: Also, RUmsod, did you remove the IMF loan?
[4:08 PM] Opal: it's been removed for forever
[4:08 PM] Monster Island: I'm sure I saw it recently
[4:08 PM] Monster Island: Not sure how recently
[4:08 PM] Opal: in practice it has but i'm sure it still appears if you're capitalist
[4:08 PM] Monster Island: So, that's be free market?
[4:08 PM] Opal: ye
[4:09 PM] Opal: also not soviet aligned
[4:09 PM] Opal: i tihnk not soviet aligned
[4:09 PM] Opal: maybe you can be soviet
[4:09 PM] Monster Island: @rumsod fix that, Yugoslavia had IMF loans
[4:09 PM] Monster Island: I'm nonaligned can't see it
[4:16 PM] dmc5: @rumsod I see people lose 1k if the tax is higher than 0% no matter the income
[4:17 PM] dmc5: But what if they have less than 1k income per 10 mins?
[4:17 PM] dmc5: Ik no one has that
[4:17 PM] dmc5: That'd need >72gdp
[4:17 PM] dmc5: But do they have negative income?
[4:17 PM] rumsod: no
[4:18 PM] Lain: rumsod the system is very unfair for low gdp players, even with a 1% tax 1 fifth of my gdp is taxed every turn
[4:19 PM] rumsod: yeah ive realized that
[4:19 PM] Lain: I demand reps from cgl
[4:21 PM] rumsod: going to have it round instead of ceil
[4:21 PM] Lain: also I agree with whoever said democracy needs some kind of bonus, what about a small approval loss for nations in a dictatorship because they don't have a say in alliance matters like why britain left the eu
[4:22 PM] dmc5: No
[4:23 PM] dmc5: It needs to be a bonus
[4:23 PM] dmc5: So approval boost for democratic alliance members is more logical
[4:28 PM] Girard: Approval boost is a lame bonus
[4:28 PM] Girard: Approval is easy to ignore and pretty cheap
[4:28 PM] dmc5: QoL?
[4:29 PM] dmc5: Stab?
[4:29 PM] Girard: Idk
[4:29 PM] Girard: But it should be something that gives a serious incentive
[4:30 PM] Girard: Or people won't want to switch
[4:30 PM] dmc5: Also
[4:31 PM] dmc5: What'll be the paladin tax?
[4:31 PM] Girard: For banks?
[4:31 PM] dmc5: I kekked at sb and especially ironmarch
[4:31 PM] dmc5: No
[4:31 PM] dmc5: Alliance taxes
[4:31 PM] Emily: " yeah, but why ? it's just another soviet buff"
[4:31 PM] Smyrno: 10% is not kek worthy
[4:31 PM] Smyrno: yours is 8(edited)
[4:31 PM] Emily: tbh
[4:31 PM] Girard: 0% atm
[4:31 PM] dmc5: Ik
[4:31 PM] Emily: I'm all for sticking it to the western capitalist pigdogs
[4:31 PM] dmc5: I asked what will it be?
[4:31 PM] Emily: But
[4:32 PM] Girard: What do you mean Dmc?
[4:32 PM] Emily: West capitalist needs a buff
[4:32 PM] dmc5: Yee
[4:32 PM] Emily: For it to be a factor in the game
[4:32 PM] Girard: you're talking about the tax where it takes member income and puts it in the bank right?
[4:32 PM] Smyrno: dmc how much money do you make from taxation per turn
[4:32 PM] dmc5: Too bad rumsod is an obvious commy
[4:32 PM] dmc5: Yes
[4:32 PM] dmc5: It's 0 now
[4:33 PM] dmc5: Will you make it higher?
[4:33 PM] Girard: Depends what ab says
[4:33 PM] Girard: I'd rather keep at zero
[4:33 PM] Girard: Or ask members
[4:33 PM] dmc5: I tried 45% for 10 mins
[4:33 PM] Girard: Just forcing that shit on people is meh
[4:33 PM] dmc5: Got 1 mil
[4:33 PM] Emily: Rummy capitalism needs an artificial boost to stay competitive
[4:33 PM] Smyrno: 22608
[4:34 PM] Girard: Lol
[4:34 PM] Smyrno: every turn
[4:34 PM] Emily: Just like irl
[4:34 PM] dmc5: Lol
[4:34 PM] Girard: P abusable
[4:34 PM] dmc5: Yeeee
[4:34 PM] Girard: >rogue officer sets max taxes for a few hours
[4:34 PM] dmc5: Rummy says he'll add neg tax
[4:34 PM] Girard: >embezzles funds and dispands
[4:34 PM] Emily: So put officers that you trust in
[4:34 PM] Smyrno: make democracies vote on taxes too :^)
[4:35 PM] dmc5: ^^^
[4:35 PM] DeutschAfrika: I think the easiest way to boost free market is : 1 : FM gives more FI growth per turn than Mixed Economy
[4:35 PM] DeutschAfrika: 2 : drastically increase or remove the FI factory event and make it so you can just buy one
[4:35 PM] Emily: There is no mechanic that can prevent backstabbing
[4:35 PM] Girard: Why vote on tax when you vote on the leader that sets the tax
[4:35 PM] Girard: What's commie tax btw?
[4:36 PM] Girard: 100%?
[4:36 PM] Smyrno: if you don't trust your own officers then you have a bad leadership tbh 😃
[4:36 PM] DeutschAfrika: 50 is max
[4:36 PM] dmc5: No commie tax
[4:36 PM] Emily: Comintern tax will be 10%
[4:36 PM] rumsod: i could make dictatorships have their own stability issues
[4:36 PM] dmc5: Its 0-50 noe
[4:36 PM] Lain: if you want to boost free market, just make the USA bonuses stronger then the soviets, the USA having a larger economy is why they won irl
[4:36 PM] rumsod: officers can attempt to overthrow the founder
[4:36 PM] Smyrno: NO
[4:36 PM] dmc5: No don't
[4:36 PM] Emily: No
[4:36 PM] Gememe: No!
[4:36 PM] Girard: Yes
[4:36 PM] rumsod: yes
[4:36 PM] Monster Island: No
[4:36 PM] Girard: Do it
[4:36 PM] Gememe: nyet
[4:36 PM] Gememe: nej
[4:36 PM] Emily: Welp
[4:36 PM] Gememe: nein
[4:36 PM] Girard: Based rumsod
[4:36 PM] DeutschAfrika: the absolute madman
[4:37 PM] Emily: Theres bloc in a nutshell
[4:37 PM] Monster Island: Instead of putting more features, you should focus on fixing bugs @rumsod
[4:37 PM] Girard: They just don't it out of self interest
[4:37 PM] dmc5: That would makel leaders have no actual officers rumsod
[4:37 PM] Girard: Making all alliances less stable creates more fun
[4:37 PM] rumsod: paranoid ones
[4:37 PM] Lain: that sounds like a bad idea rumsod
[4:37 PM] Gememe: @rumsod western countries need more buffs
[4:37 PM] Gememe: too many commies
[4:37 PM] Smyrno: i'll overthrow Vic and make robo leader of SB
[4:37 PM] dmc5: I can just say a guy is officer
[4:37 PM] Emily: Rumsod: what do you think about this awful update?
[4:37 PM] Monster Island: @rumsod add IMF loans for mixed nations
[4:37 PM] Emily: Everyone: Please no
[4:37 PM] dmc5: And  not give him status
[4:37 PM] Girard: Can't officers already just kick every alliance member?
[4:38 PM] Emily: Rumsod: This will be the next update
[4:38 PM] dmc5: This tbh
[4:38 PM] DeutschAfrika: @rumsod buff the amount of FI gain from growth based on the market and being FM instead of mixed and increase how often the event giving factories fires
[4:38 PM] dmc5: Same thing every time
[4:38 PM] Girard: You should let members challenge the leader instead
[4:38 PM] Emily: Rumsod do you think that because the whole playerbase minus one cuck hates an idea
[4:39 PM] dmc5: ^^^^^
[4:39 PM] Emily: It would be good to implement
[4:39 PM] dmc5: ^^^^^
[4:39 PM] Emily: I mean
[4:39 PM] Girard: >the whole playerbase
[4:39 PM] Emily: I understand you must be a little bitter at us
[4:40 PM] Girard: >three leaders who have an incentive to be against change
[4:40 PM] dmc5: 2 alliance leaders 1 officer and a few members
[4:40 PM] Emily: For killing your game and memeing you so many times
[4:40 PM] Smyrno: whats the tarriff rate for MG
[4:40 PM] Girard: Use a middleman
[4:40 PM] Emily: Like that letter to you mom or whatever
[4:40 PM] Lain: at the end of the day it's up to rumsod and we should respect his decision
[4:40 PM] Girard: ^
[4:41 PM] Girard: Lains right tbh
[4:41 PM] Emily: So I can understand you would want to try and torment us
[4:41 PM] dmc5: Wait
[4:41 PM] Girard: Rumsod decides to do change something you ain't gonna stop him
[4:41 PM] uranistan: > it's up to rumsod and we should respect his decision
[4:41 PM] uranistan: no
[4:41 PM] Emily: But please just come out and say it
[4:41 PM] uranistan: just no
[4:41 PM] rumsod: youre very melodramatic emily
[4:41 PM] dmc5: People actually sent a.letter.to his mom?
[4:41 PM] dmc5: And no @Lain
[4:42 PM] dmc5: Bloc stays good mostly because the community
[4:42 PM] dmc5: If that's not there, bloc would be just a slightly higer than average browser game
[4:42 PM] Lain: the only reason bloc exists is because of rumsod and we should respect that fact
[4:43 PM] Girard: Doesn't matter whether you respect it or not
[4:43 PM] uranistan: no
[4:43 PM] dmc5: It has no reason to exist without the community tho
[4:43 PM] Emily: Sorry we aren't as relevant as you lain
[4:43 PM] Girard: You have no say
[4:43 PM] Lain: I never said that emily
[4:43 PM] Girard: End of the day it's up to rumsod
[4:43 PM] uranistan: >2013-2016
[4:43 PM] uranistan: >respecting rumsod
[4:44 PM] uranistan: ISHIGGYDIGGYDOO

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