you state "Interested in following a twitch account by one of the devs? "
Are you developing for us?
The Lion - 01/19/2018
I'm named as a Developer, and technically I'm a Community developer.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
But the actual game devs are technically Hubert so it's a little misleading
dev is*
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Hubert seems to think I'm a dev.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
The definition of dev there is different
When I see dev I think of a game deveeloper
developer*
The Lion - 01/19/2018
However you see it, is fine to me. Take it up with Hubert if it's that misleading. I'm just acting as I see best.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
I told him before it would be better to call it something else
https://i.imgur.com/3dHaOlY.png

The Lion - 01/19/2018
Yes, I get your point.
But my position is Community Manager / Developer.
You may think of it what you think.
If you're that certain this is a mistake, go ahead and talk to Hubert, please.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
I did talk to Hubert
There's nothing called a community developer
There's a community manager
And there's community development
But when people say you're talking to a dev, they think you helped in the process of making the game
They're gonna ask you questions you do not know
The Lion - 01/19/2018
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And?
I can handle questions I don't know.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
https://i.imgur.com/VPfBEhP.png

https://i.imgur.com/CuXMOFX.png

The Lion - 01/19/2018
I'm not having this discussion right now, because it feels like an attack on what I do. In an abstract way I do help the game in the development. I've taken up a lot of things over the past 3-4 days to unburden Hubert so he has more time. So by definition, my effort and dedication allows the game to be developed maybe in a faster pace. Or it gives Hubert some free time to play games, I don't care.
I do what I do.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
I'm not attacking you?
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Community Manager / Developer, does it matter? I develop the Community and manage it at the same time.
Now, I have to answer some e-mails.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
Then say community developer don't say developer it's misleading mate
It sounds like you only want the title of developer
I asked you nicely to change it
I've sent a message to Hubert
Remember that he's not entirely Englis
English*
The Lion - 01/19/2018
If Hubert tells me to change this - since he practically is my superior - I will. But I'd rather not go off on whatever everyone wants me to change.
If you two want to sit down with me about this and help me understand, I'll have no qualms.
But this seems to be coming from you as a person.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
So you're not gonna listen to anything I tell you? We have the same privileges, I had more privileges but you're doing exactly what I was doing before
I only took the title of web dev because that's the only development I assisted with
Everything else I just personally assisted Hubert
The Lion - 01/19/2018
I'm saying this would rather come from Hubert.
If we're talking dev.
Then sure, I'm developing the Store page.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
But that doesn't make you a developer
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Right. I'm uninstalling my PC after 3 p.m. today before I'm moving homes tomorrow. I really have to do some work now. If I have time, I'll get back on this tonight on my Laptop.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
Alright
The Lion - 01/19/2018
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GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
He thinks of Developer as something else I told him about it before but I didn't really put effort into my point
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Then maybe that's something you need to do.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
I did
The Lion - 01/19/2018
I asked Hubert point blank just now if he thinks I'm a Developer.
We'll see what he has to say.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
He's going to say yes because he thinks a Developer is someone who helps build something
The Lion - 01/19/2018
And besides that, you don't need to physically touch the code, map or animations to be a developer.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
But that's not really a developer
The Lion - 01/19/2018
You're wrong in that.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
It's an assistant
The Lion - 01/19/2018
In my previous position I was a developer as well.
With the other game I worked on.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
Did you look at my screenshot?
The Lion - 01/19/2018
I did.
But you know, stop looking for what Google tells you.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
EVERY wikipedia page which mentions developer has something to do with coding or game design
The Lion - 01/19/2018
The world isn't rigidly depicted by what Wikipedia thinks I am doing.
I'm trying to explain this to you in the best way possible, but I feel my patience running low right now.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
But the majority of people believe what Wikipedia tells you so it's a little misleading
The Lion - 01/19/2018
It feels like my title is being pulled into question based on what I do. And I do a damn fucking lot for this game.
And by extension for Hubert.
I do this for this game.
By helping out Hubert around everywhere in this game, be it Administrative or Community Management, I'm freeing up his time. I can put my skills and English knowledge to use for the good of this game.
I didn't have to but I took over the verification process as well.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
You're leaving me no work and that's another thing, I can't have you do everything because I also wish to assist in the process of helping the game instead of just developing the website

I offered to work on the game as well but he denied as he wishes to work on it himself as he was the one who made it from scratch
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Oml, lmao.
So this is what it's about.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
No?
The Lion - 01/19/2018
It's me taking your place, is that it?
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
Nah
It's about you only caring about your title
That's what it looks like to me
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Look, this is officially going beyond me. I shouldn't be having a pissing contest over the fact what I do. I'm 22, and I have a professional resume that makes me qualified for this stuff.
You do you.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
Sure buddy
The Lion - 01/19/2018
I don't have any hard feelings about this, but I'm not justifying myself.
I'll only do that to Hubert if I fuck up.
And if I call myself a "developer", which was a one-off, because everywhere else I refer to myself as the Community Manager, means fucking up?
I'll gladly change it.
But you know what.
Have it your way. I'll delete the post.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
Then why didn't you gladly change it when I asked you nicely to?
Thank you
You can just edit it
The Lion - 01/19/2018
But just so you know.
I find this EXTREMELY fucking childish.
Because it's not me caring about my title, it's about you caring what it means to you.
Because Hubert doesn't mind.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
It means nothing to me
The Lion - 01/19/2018
This is an informal setting.
It's not a company.
It's not an organisation.
This is not Ubisoft.
If I'm a Developer to Hubert, hallelujah.
If I'm a Community Manager, c'est la vie.
And that goes for any other title. But officially? I'm just a Moderator on Discord, and I do things that are necessary on the side.
And trust me, not for lack of trying. I tried to get him to give me a rank that would notify me as the Community Manager, because I feel I'm seen like all other mods out there right now and Hubert knows about that.
Now, if that worries you, I can't stop you.
That's all I'm going to say about this, and this discussion is done for now.
I'll see what Hubert has to say when he gets home.
And by the by, the only reason I'm caring about my title, is because I do things to justify that title.
But thanks, anyway. Lovely chat.
The Lion - 01/19/2018
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The definitive answer.
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Alright. I'm going to try my hand at this. When you came to me this afternoon with the accusation of caring only about my title, well, that rubbed me wrong. But here's a question, do you have any idea what I have done to justify my rank?
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
I do
I never said that you don't deserve your rank
I told you that the title you received is misleading
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Then instead of going off on me, a guy who's just trying to do what he was hired to do in the first place, advise Hubert about this. But if Hubert tells you this is how it's going to be, stop bringing it up.
That's my friendly advice to you.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
I didn't go off on you man? I asked you nicely to change the title
And you seem to have gotten offended
The Lion - 01/19/2018
No, you questioned my integrity and loyalty.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
Because of the way you reacted
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Because you see, I've been around this block since you were 7. I have 7 years of experience.
I'm a patient guy, but you do not get to question me.
It's not your place.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
I didn't question you
I asked you nicely to change your title
You got offended
You seem to be trying to get to me by your years of experience
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Yes, I am.
Because I am.
And you know what, I tried. But you don't seem to be willing to listen to my points, you're hellbent on your ideas of what a perfect world looks like.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
You're the one who's sending me 100s of messages dude
The fuck
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Because Hubert asked me.
And I'm doing it out of respect to him.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
Then don't say I'm not listening to your points and shit
You're coming to me
The Lion - 01/19/2018
No.
Stop.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
I'm not responding because you ended the argument long ago
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Don't try to paint me as the bad guy here.
GlorifiedPig - 01/19/2018
You've been doing that since I asked you nicely to change it
Could you stop messaging me now please
It's over
What's done is done
You can't change it
The Lion - 01/19/2018
Good. If you ever question me again on my loyalty and integrity, you're going to be the one to explain why I've resigned. Good night.(edited)