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[11:32] <fagotery> Phoenix exploit pack owner comes back after long time
[11:32] <fagotery> and says
[11:32] <fagotery> he was arrested by feds
[11:32] <fagotery> for maintaning exploit packs
[11:32] <fagotery> and
[11:33] <fagotery> they found 2 AKS 47, 3 Makarovs in his house
[11:33] <fagotery> fucking killer
[11:33] <fagotery> lmfao
kaspersky
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[11:39] <Und3rc0ver|afk> anyone think the girl in van1lle's avatar is hot? <3
[11:39] <Und3rc0ver|afk> who is she?
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[11:42] <TouchMe> if anything happens to SR i bet btc value halfs
[11:42] <fagotery> Jessica alba probably
[11:43] <fagotery> van1lle faps at her
[11:43] <TouchMe> lol
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[11:43] <TouchMe> cant code some fun stuff till i finish this shit :\
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[11:45] <Und3rc0ver|afk> she's hotter than alba
[11:45] <Und3rc0ver|afk> van1lle is a pretty hot name too
[11:45] <TouchMe> van1lle is pretty hot
[11:45] <Und3rc0ver|afk> yes :D
[11:46] <Und3rc0ver|afk> i hope shes a girl
[11:46] <Und3rc0ver|afk> i havent talked to girls in a really long time
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[11:48] <TouchMe> nah van1lle is a boy
[11:49] <Und3rc0ver|afk> :(
[11:49] <Und3rc0ver|afk> we need more girls on this irc
[11:49] <fagotery> lol
[11:49] <fagotery> lmfao
[11:49] <Und3rc0ver|afk> and hf in general
[11:49] <fagotery> i smell virgin here
[11:49] <Und3rc0ver|afk> :D
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[11:51] <Und3rc0ver|afk> we should invite girls from facebook
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[11:51] <Und3rc0ver|afk> tell them you'll get lots of +rep
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[11:59] <fagotery> Go to CMD
[11:59] <fagotery> and write
[11:59] <fagotery> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[11:59] <fagotery> old
[11:59] <fagotery> but still funny
[12:08] <bake> <BV1> I had a friend go to the movies on shrooms and she said she started seeing bugs pouring out from behind the screen, eventually freaked out, got up to leave, puked in the aisle, and curled up into a ball in her friends car
[12:08] <bake> bro that kinda shit dont happen on shrooms
[12:08] <bake> acid yeah sure
[12:08] <bake> but shrooms dont give thoose kinds of hallucinations
[12:09] <Und3rc0ver|afk> they were magic shrooms
[12:09] <BV1> you sure?
[12:09] <fagotery> bake
[12:09] <BV1> i do acid all the time
[12:09] <fagotery> is athena really killing spyeye
[12:09] * fagotery was kicked by Juices (Watch your language!)
[12:10] <BV1> and its opposite for me
[12:10] <BV1> acid is the most mellow and awesome high
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[12:10] <TouchMe> I've done acid 3 times
[12:10] <TouchMe> and every time was different
[12:12] <Und3rc0ver|afk> where do you guys buy drugs?
[12:13] <Und3rc0ver|afk> irl or online?
[12:13] <bake> fagotery yeah
[12:13] <bake> and
[12:13] <bake> BV1 yeah
[12:13] <bake> positive
[12:14] <bake> shrooms for me
[12:14] <bake> its like
[12:14] <bake> mild hallucinations
[12:14] <bake> warping
[12:14] <bake> colors
[12:14] <bake> etc
[12:14] <bake> but acid is crazy like seeing shit
[12:14] <bake> and
[12:14] <BV1> I've never one hallucinated anything other than colors and line distortion on acid
[12:14] <bake> every time ive done acid
[12:14] <bake> ive felt diff after the fact
[12:14] <bake> permenantly
[12:14] <BV1> you had fucked up acid then or something
[12:14] <bake> idk diff for each person i guess
[12:14] <bake> nah i loved it
[12:14] <BV1> I do it every 6-8 weeks
[12:14] <TouchMe> BV1, same
[12:14] <BV1> and for a day or two after i feel fried
[12:14] <BV1> but
[12:14] <bake> hah yeah
[12:14] <BV1> nothing perm feeling
[12:14] <TouchMe> people claiming to see shit on acid or shrooms are insane
[12:15] <TouchMe> you need to do like 10 tabs to be seeing shit
[12:15] <bake> i see shit on acid
[12:15] <TouchMe> shrooms about 5 grams
[12:15] <BV1> maybe i need to take like $150 worth
[12:15] <TouchMe> depending on time
[12:15] <TouchMe> type*
[12:15] <TouchMe> on acid I've only ever got light visuals
[12:15] <TouchMe> shrooms I've had near insanity
[12:16] <BV1> I'm just going to throw out there, sex on acid is fucking amazing
[12:16] <bake> never had sex on acid
[12:16] <TouchMe> i can't stay focused long enough
[12:16] <TouchMe> too hard ;\
[12:16] <TouchMe> pun intended :D
[12:16] <BV1> hah
[12:16] <bake> haha
[12:16] <bake> ive fucked plenty on mollies
[12:17] <bake> can just keep going for fuckin hours
[12:17] <bake> lol
[12:17] <bake> like bunnies
[12:17] <BV1> idk, whenever me and my last gf would get the room and just trip, it'd always been very sex filled
[12:17] <TouchMe> mollies?
[12:17] <TouchMe> mdma?
[12:17] <bake> yeah
[12:17] <BV1> ye
[12:17] <TouchMe> impossibru
[12:17] <bake> orly?
[12:17] <BV1> I'd be so thirsty
[12:17] <BV1> lol
[12:17] <TouchMe> everyone i ever spoken to who's done mdma
[12:17] <TouchMe> said they can't cum
[12:17] <bake> haha ye
[12:17] <bake> exactly
[12:17] <bake> can just keep going bro
[12:18] <bake> <bake> can just keep going for fuckin hours
[12:18] <bake> :D
[12:18] <TouchMe> it's boring
[12:18] <TouchMe> can't feel shit
[12:18] <bake> nahh aint eeven
[12:18] <Stanislav> Bake
[12:18] <TouchMe> just get bored and want to stop
[12:18] <bake> hey stanislav
[12:18] <Stanislav> can u start talking about @thena killing Spyeye? so we see massive rages
[12:18] <bake> touchme i dont get bored haha
[12:18] <Stanislav> and flames
[12:18] <Stanislav> between u me and tuchfag
[12:18] <TouchMe> i do ;\
[12:18] <Stanislav> pls go
[12:18] <bake> why talk about it? i can prove it if you want
[12:19] <Stanislav> touchme says its impossibru cuz of SPYEYE hook persistance
[12:19] <Stanislav> for rootkit
[12:19] <Stanislav> k?
[12:19] <TouchMe> not impossibru
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[12:19] <Stanislav> impossibru for @thena
[12:19] <Stanislav> :D
[12:19] <TouchMe> just not easy
[12:19] <bake> doesnt matter, the running process isnt the only thing it needs to protect
[12:19] <bake> has file, key, process(es)
[12:19] <TouchMe> it protects everything?
[12:20] <TouchMe> it uses same hooks as zeus
[12:20] <bake> its not a matter of hooks
[12:20] <bake> can guarantee ya the hooks dont stop the method(s)
[12:20] <TouchMe> you can if you code them right
[12:20] <TouchMe> but what is the method
[12:20] <bake> no, it doesnt matter how well you code the hooks
[12:20] <bake> if you dont code the hooks to prevent the methods to stop the bot
[12:20] <TouchMe> nah
[12:20] <Stanislav> well...that escalated quickly
[12:20] <cr0ss> touchme
[12:21] <TouchMe> but you can't stop the bot if the hooks prevent you doing that
[12:21] <TouchMe> prevent memory, proces, key and file access
[12:21] <bake> unless the hooks arent hooking the methods that stop it
[12:21] <bake> like i said
[12:21] <bake> theres no reason to talk about it
[12:21] <bake> i can prove it if you want
[12:21] <TouchMe> i want to know the method you're killing it without removing hooks
[12:21] <Und3rc0ver|afk> what does it hook?
[12:22] <bake> there are like 3 methods i have to kill it
[12:22] <TouchMe> i write generic botkiller that just removes hooks and deletes file / key
[12:22] <bake> 3 diff methods thatll all kill spyeye
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[12:22] <TouchMe> but I'm assuming you have targeted methods specific to bots
[12:22] <bake> what do u mean specific to bots?
[12:22] <bake> nah
[12:22] <bake> heuristics
[12:22] <bake> will stop any executable file if told to do so
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[12:23] <bake> no signatures or specifics
[12:23] <TouchMe> wait so you're stopping the exe
[12:23] <Stanislav> u mad touchme? :)
[12:23] <bake> cant stand that stuff
[12:23] <TouchMe> not removing the bot
[12:23] <Stanislav> lol
[12:23] <bake> touchme
[12:23] <Stanislav> that escalated quickly again
[12:23] <bake> it kills the bot
[12:23] <bake> prevents it from functioning properly
[12:23] <bake> doesnt connect to panel anymore
[12:23] <bake> doesnt mess with the computer
[12:23] <bake> thats the point of a botkiller
[12:23] <TouchMe> so your botkiller is stoping it from being run?
[12:23] <TouchMe> like before it injects and places hooks?
[12:23] <bake> to prevent other C&Cs from using that computer + stopping other bots from affecting the computer in one way or another
[12:23] <bake> touchme, or during
[12:23] <bake> or after
[12:23] <bake> or before
[12:24] <bake> doesnt matter
[12:24] <TouchMe> confused
[12:24] <bake> ok ok ok not before actually
[12:24] <bake> during and after
[12:24] <bake> i gtg for a bit will talk more later about it
[12:24] <TouchMe> ;\
[12:24] <bake> but like i said id prefer not to talk about the methodology
[12:24] <bake> would rather just prove it
[12:24] <TouchMe> no i don't care that you can kill it
[12:24] <TouchMe> I'm just interested as to what you're doing
[12:24] <TouchMe> atm what you said sounds like pDef
[12:25] <Stanislav> lol
[12:25] <TouchMe> but everything you say is so cryptic it just confuses more
[12:25] <bake> id prefer not to talk about specifics thats why
[12:25] <bake> its like anything else
[12:25] <TouchMe> well you can pm me if you like
[12:25] <TouchMe> I'm not going to replace my botkiller with yours
[12:26] <Stanislav> lmfao
[12:26] <Stanislav> TOUCHME c+P
[12:26] <Stanislav> :d
[12:26] <Und3rc0ver|afk> touchme what bot are you coding
[12:26] <bake> sorry touchme, maybe later
[12:26] <bake> :)
[12:26] <TouchMe> none
[12:26] <bake> ill bbl guis
[12:26] <Und3rc0ver|afk> just a standalone botkiller?
[12:26] <TouchMe> bake is bad at this discussion thing
[12:26] <Und3rc0ver|afk> what's bake's bot?
[12:26] <TouchMe> @thena
[12:26] <TouchMe> if the current version kills spyeye
[12:27] <TouchMe> i can have it reversed and look at the methods before he's back
[12:27] <Stanislav> lol
[12:27] <Und3rc0ver|afk> :)
[12:27] <Stanislav> Newest one kills
[12:27] <Und3rc0ver|afk> it has ring3 hooks?
[12:27] <bake> touchme :(
[12:27] <TouchMe> would much rather have some discussion instead of being treated like some skid who can't code and is foraging for ideas
[12:27] <TouchMe> :(
[12:27] <Stanislav> Und3rcover
[12:27] <Stanislav> i think you need to learn more into it
[12:28] <Stanislav> instead of basics
[12:28] <Stanislav> yeah, of course usermode hooks it has.
[12:28] <Stanislav> via JMP instruction i guess.
[12:28] <TouchMe> it doesn't?
[12:28] <Stanislav> TouchMe@ Ring0? lolwat
[12:28] <Und3rc0ver|afk> ?
[12:28] <TouchMe> what bot we talking about
[12:28] <Stanislav> Spyeye
[12:28] <Stanislav> :)
[12:29] <Und3rc0ver|afk> i was talking about athena
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[12:29] <Stanislav> lmfao
[12:29] <Jorgee> lol
[12:29] <@FuZi0N> Jorgee
[12:29] <Jorgee> FuZi0N
[12:29] <@FuZi0N> just the nigga i was lookin for :)
[12:29] <Jorgee> :O
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[12:29] <TouchMe> oh spyeye uses pointer substitution on the SystemCallStub pointer
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[12:30] <TouchMe> old version used jmp
[12:30] <Und3rc0ver|afk> stupid censores
[12:30] <Und3rc0ver|afk> lol
[12:30] <TouchMe> hook persistence is kinda cool
[12:30] <Stanislav> lol useless crap anyway
[12:30] <Stanislav> all antiviruses are catching that shit in Usermode like boss
[12:30] <Stanislav> so...
[12:30] <TouchMe> it uses and atomic read, compare, write operation
[12:30] <TouchMe> has a major flaw though
[12:31] <TouchMe> it calls VirtualProtect on the region
[12:31] <TouchMe> in original dll
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[12:31] <Und3rc0ver|afk> VirtualProtect makes me so horny thinking about it
[12:31] <TouchMe> if you hook it and block changing of the ntdll protection
[12:31] <TouchMe> it fails to replace the hooks
[12:32] <TouchMe> then you can remove them and kill it
[12:32] <Stanislav> thx for revealing method :D
[12:32] <Stanislav> now tell me how to remove Injected code from Process memory space ;)
[12:32] <Stanislav> fag
[12:32] <TouchMe> yeah good luck writing an engine to remove other peoples hooks
[12:32] <Stanislav> without damaging host
[12:32] <Stanislav> lol
[12:32] <Stanislav> sure
[12:32] <Stanislav> going to do it in future
[12:32] <Stanislav> :d
[12:32] <Stanislav> i like that vector shit
[12:32] <Stanislav> its l33t
[12:33] <bake> <TouchMe> would much rather have some discussion instead of being treated like some skid who can't code and is foraging for ideas
[12:33] <bake> you cant expect coders to go around revealing their methods
[12:33] <bake> like anybody
[12:33] <TouchMe> but my method > yours
[12:33] <TouchMe> and i just gave it out free
[12:33] <Und3rc0ver|afk> nopony calls touchme a skid
[12:33] <bake> ok thats alright
[12:33] <bake> but thats you
[12:33] <TouchMe> all i ask is you pm me and give me some info about your botkiller
[12:33] <bake> i didnt call touchme skid
[12:33] <TouchMe> interested to know how it works
[12:33] <Und3rc0ver|afk> :D
[12:33] <bake> i dont call anybody 'skid' or 'kid'
[12:33] <Stanislav> stop arguing guys
[12:33] <Stanislav> we are all friends
[12:33] <Stanislav> lol
[12:33] <TouchMe> not really looking for how to kill spyeye
[12:33] <Und3rc0ver|afk> lol
[12:33] <TouchMe> just interested in how your botkiller works based on what you said
[12:33] <bake> never in logs of anything i write will you EVER see the words 'skid' or 'kid' except for right now
[12:34] <TouchMe> <bake> fuck you skid
[12:34] <TouchMe> <bake> i hate skids
[12:34] <bake> use of those words just make anybody using them look more 'skiddish' or 'kiddish' or whatever
[12:34] <Stanislav> lmfao
[12:34] <bake> lol
[12:34] <TouchMe> these are legit ok
[12:35] <Stanislav> TouchMe
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[12:35] <TouchMe> wat
[12:35] <Stanislav> you already revealed spyeye hooks bypass
[12:35] <Stanislav> tell me
[12:35] <Stanislav> best method of removing injected coad!
[12:35] <Stanislav> lol
[12:35] <TouchMe> $50k
[12:35] <Stanislav> for botkiller
[12:35] <TouchMe> and it's all yours
[12:35] <Stanislav> fuck u
[12:35] <Stanislav> :d
[12:35] <TouchMe> do you even have a bot that injects?
[12:35] <Stanislav> No i need theory
[12:35] <TouchMe> lol
[12:36] <@FuZi0N> ryan
[12:36] <@FuZi0N> KMS
[12:36] <TouchMe> it's not straight forward
[12:36] <@FuZi0N> holla
[12:36] <Stanislav> Gon do smth in future
[12:36] <Stanislav> for botkiller i need accuracy
[12:36] <Stanislav> I'm going to do process scanning
[12:36] <TouchMe> botkiller should stay away from trying to remove injected code
[12:36] <Stanislav> I Don't want it to damage any important processes
[12:36] <TouchMe> there's usually an other way
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[12:36] <Stanislav> yeah im looking for that way
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[12:37] <Stanislav> touchme more discussions pls
[12:38] <Stanislav> it was interesting
[12:38] <Stanislav> :d
[12:38] <TouchMe> there is no uniform way to do it
[12:38] <TouchMe> a good start is checking every thread in a process and looking for an EIP outside of a registered module
[12:38] <TouchMe> but that's fairly unreliable
[12:39] <Stanislav> U know some assembler?
[12:39] <ryan> yes hello FuZi0N
[12:39] <Stanislav> people say do everything on C/C++ but still u need asm at least basics ;/
[12:39] <Stanislav> im going to learn some
[12:39] <Stanislav> but idk which
[12:39] <Stanislav> MASM/FASM i guess
[12:39] <@FuZi0N> ryan :D
[12:39] <TouchMe> me?
[12:39] <@FuZi0N> long time no sea
[12:40] <Stanislav> ye tuch
[12:40] <TouchMe> yeah i code fasm
[12:40] <Stanislav> nice :P
[12:40] <TouchMe> in my code there are whole functions that are pure asm
[12:40] <Stanislav> i want to start but fucking mind stops me "OH WAIT ITS ASM, DONT DO IT"
[12:40] <Stanislav> haha
[12:41] <TouchMe> sometimes i write code in fasm
[12:41] <TouchMe> then link the objects with visual studio
[12:41] <Und3rc0ver|afk> who doesn't knwo asm?
[12:41] <Und3rc0ver|afk> lol
[12:41] <Stanislav> You can't code malware without understanding of ASM , i think..
[12:41] <Stanislav> won't be proper
[12:41] <Und3rc0ver|afk> even my mom knows some asm
[12:41] <Stanislav> i mean some advanced stuff
[12:41] <Und3rc0ver|afk> and she's a vb.NET coder
[12:41] <Und3rc0ver|afk> :D
[12:41] <Stanislav> not shitty dooz bots on delphi with synapse
[12:41] <Stanislav> and ddos on wininet
[12:41] <Stanislav> lol
[12:41] <Und3rc0ver|afk> lol
[12:42] <Stanislav> really
[12:42] <Stanislav> wininet ddos
[12:42] <Stanislav> is most l33t
[12:42] <Stanislav> u'll ever code ;)
[12:42] <Und3rc0ver|afk> yeah
[12:42] <Und3rc0ver|afk> what about telnet ddos?
[12:42] <Stanislav> lol
[12:42] <Und3rc0ver|afk> or ping ddos
[12:42] <Stanislav> i code botnet i vbscript faggot
[12:42] <Und3rc0ver|afk> while (true) {system("ping google.com")}
[12:42] <Und3rc0ver|afk> free c++ ddoser
[12:42] <cr0ss> that works
[12:42] <cr0ss> very good
[12:42] <cr0ss> on xbox
[12:42] <cr0ss> halo 1
[12:43] <Und3rc0ver|afk> actually i forgot a semicolon
[12:43] <@FuZi0N> i need to be able to drop CF protected sites
[12:43] <@FuZi0N> willing to pay for axx
[12:43] <Stanislav> lmfao
[12:43] <Und3rc0ver|afk>  while (true) {system("ping google.com");} <- there we go
[12:43] <@FuZi0N> know of anybody who can provide this service lol?
[12:43] <@FuZi0N> lol
[12:44] <Stanislav> i will create special Hacker framework for C++, It will be simple as :    #include <ddos.h>         HTTPGet(SiteUrl,Params);
[12:44] <Stanislav> k?
[12:44] <Stanislav> haha
[12:44] <Und3rc0ver|afk> #include <bypassUAC.h>
[12:44] <Stanislav> yea
[12:44] <Und3rc0ver|afk> #include <rootketz.h>
[12:44] <Stanislav> Like .NET Framework, but Hack framework with all code ready :d
[12:44] <Und3rc0ver|afk> yeah
[12:44] <Und3rc0ver|afk> that'd be awesome
[12:44] <Und3rc0ver|afk> inlcude <runPE.h>
[12:45] <Stanislav> #include <UserStuff.h>          Hook(NTQuerySystemInformation,Param Nbss.exe);
[12:45] <Stanislav> make nbss.exe invisible
[12:45] <Stanislav> seems legit
[12:45] <Stanislav> lmfao
[12:45] <Und3rc0ver|afk> lol
[12:45] <Und3rc0ver|afk> Stan, u troll on Hf?
[12:45] <Stanislav> ye
[12:45] <Und3rc0ver|afk> never seen you troll
[12:46] <Stanislav> #include <runpe.h>       SimpleWriteProcessMemory(explorer.exe);
[12:46] <Stanislav> lol
[12:46] <Stanislav> i always troll
[12:46] <Stanislav> no one knows nicks though
[12:46] <Und3rc0ver|afk> i you're blackarrayisgay
[12:46] <Stanislav> yes
[12:46] <Und3rc0ver|afk> heard*
[12:46] <cr0ss> NtDeleteFile("explorer.exe");
[12:46] <Stanislav> lmfao
[12:46] <Stanislav> hacker framework would be awesome
[12:47] <Stanislav> i wonder y no one coded it yet :D
[12:47] <cr0ss> #include <AutomaticMalwareMaker.h>
[12:47] <Und3rc0ver|afk> NtInject("explorer.exe", "myhacks.dll");
[12:47] <cr0ss> connect(IRC,IP,PORT,PASS);
[12:47] <Und3rc0ver|afk> We should make a codedom for c++
[12:47] <cr0ss> yeah
[12:47] <cr0ss> ntinject
[12:47] <cr0ss> lol
[12:48] <Und3rc0ver|afk> NtHook("NtDelete");
[12:48] <Stanislav> #include <Ring0stuff.h> Kernel.SearchBaseAdress(PsTerminateProcess);   PsTerminateProcess(KAV.exe);
[12:48] <Stanislav> seems legit
[12:48] <cr0ss> lol
[12:48] <Und3rc0ver|afk> lol
[12:48] <Und3rc0ver|afk> stan is that the only account you troll on?
[12:48] <Stanislav> no
[12:48] <Stanislav> i had about 80 accs
[12:48] <Stanislav> on HF.
[12:48] <Und3rc0ver|afk> lol
[12:48] <Und3rc0ver|afk> i bet 'do you even lift?' was one of them
[12:49] <Stanislav> no
[12:49] <Und3rc0ver|afk> what about 'TheRealHacker'?
[12:49] <Und3rc0ver|afk> or 'Hepic'?
[12:49] <Stanislav> nope
[12:49] <Stanislav> i had a lot of accs in 2011-2012
[12:49] <Stanislav> forgot names
[12:49] <Stanislav> first one was
[12:49] <Stanislav> RuleZzZ
[12:49] <Stanislav> or smth
[12:49] <cr0ss> http://www.hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=3245685
[12:49] <cr0ss> thats
[12:49] <cr0ss> real hacking
[12:49] <Und3rc0ver|afk> all got banned?
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[12:50] <ZAp> hi
[12:50] <Stanislav> ye
[12:50] <ZAp> How are you?
[12:50] <ZAp> bye
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[12:51] <Und3rc0ver|afk> thats l33t cr0ss
[12:51] <TouchMe> <Stanislav> #include <Ring0stuff.h> Kernel.SearchBaseAdress(PsTerminateProcess);   PsTerminateProcess(KAV.exe);
[12:51] <TouchMe> nice
[12:51] <Stanislav> Touchme
[12:51] <TouchMe> when can we expect stanibootkit
[12:51] <Stanislav> would it be l33t?
[12:51] <Stanislav> tomorrow ;)
[12:51] <Stanislav> fud 34/42
[12:51] <Und3rc0ver|afk> runtime fud too?
[12:51] <Stanislav> yes bypass kav
[12:51] <TouchMe> terminating the AV is a bad idea
[12:51] <TouchMe> unless you're going to spoof it
[12:51] <Stanislav> lol
[12:52] <Stanislav> why bad idea if possible
[12:52] <Stanislav> hard is to terminate it actually
[12:52] <Stanislav> :d
[12:53] <Und3rc0ver|afk> impossibru
[12:53] <Stanislav> not impossible actually
[12:53] <Stanislav> but very hard modern av's
[12:53] <BV1> im a modern av
[12:53] <BV1> nothing gets by me
[12:53] <Stanislav> First you need to bypass AV in runtime, bypass all windows protections and get in KernelMode.
[12:53] <Stanislav> Then
[12:54] <Stanislav> you can think of ways..
[12:54] <Stanislav> most av's use filter drivers btw
[12:54] <Stanislav> hard shit
[12:54] <Stanislav> some fag like Carberp/ROVNIX coder may manage to do it
[12:54] <TouchMe> <Stanislav> why bad idea if possible
[12:54] <TouchMe> because your av going
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[12:54] <TouchMe> is pretty obvious sign you're infected
[12:54] <Stanislav> lol
[12:54] <Stanislav> yeah..
[12:54] <Stanislav> haven't thought of it
[12:54] <Stanislav> :d
[12:54] <TouchMe> and carberp / rovnix is pretty much the same thing
[12:54] <Stanislav> Only bootkit
[12:55] <Stanislav> not base
[12:55] <TouchMe> rovnix coder wrote the bootkit for carberp
[12:55] <Stanislav> I Know right
[12:55] <TouchMe> bootkit (bootloader, driver, dropper)
[12:55] <Stanislav> and he didn't code it specially for carberp
[12:55] <TouchMe> then they edited it
[12:55] <Stanislav> he was only selling "Engine"
[12:55] <Stanislav> ready for use
[12:55] <Stanislav> which carbskids bought
[12:55] <Stanislav> cuz
[12:55] <call911> so i have unknown fud bots on my computer. removal tips?
[12:55] <Stanislav> can't code own
[12:55] <TouchMe> nah
[12:55] <Stanislav> yes.
[12:55] <TouchMe> he was selling the builder
[12:55] <TouchMe> carberp bought source
[12:55] <Stanislav> No
[12:56] <TouchMe> yes
[12:56] <TouchMe> ask them
[12:56] <Stanislav> http://habrahabr.ru/company/eset/blog/133173/
[12:56] <Stanislav> look at screenshot
[12:56] <Stanislav> ;)
[12:57] <TouchMe> the sales thread for rovnix builder
[12:57] <Stanislav> I don't think he was selling only bins judging by this screenshot
[12:57] <TouchMe> the screenshot is from dk
[12:57] <Stanislav> hm
[12:57] <Stanislav> maybe
[12:57] <TouchMe> I've read the whole thread
[12:57] <TouchMe> it's builder he is selling
[12:57] <TouchMe> not src
[12:57] <Stanislav> how much was price for rovnix
[12:57] <Stanislav> bins
[12:59] <call911> shitton
[12:59] <TouchMe> Stanislav:
[12:59] <Stanislav> btw
[12:59] <TouchMe> "В начале текущего года на различных закрытых киберкриминальных форумах стала появляться информация о продаже билдера буткита, не обнаруживаемого антивирусными средствами."
[12:59] <TouchMe> seem
[12:59] <TouchMe> they specificly say builder
[12:59] <Stanislav> ye
[12:59] <Stanislav> i see
[12:59] <Stanislav> btw
[13:00] <TouchMe> ngr
[13:00] <TouchMe> ;p
[13:00] <Stanislav> what is more advanced TDL Family
[13:00] <Stanislav> or carberp/gapz/rovnix etc
[13:00] <Stanislav> tdl has no bootkit? Only driver i think
[13:00] <Stanislav> may forgot
[13:00] <call911> stani did you get carberp?
[13:01] <Stanislav> nope
[13:01] <Stanislav> never interested in using malware coded by some fags
[13:01] <Stanislav> no matter how advanced
[13:01] <Stanislav> also i dislike carberp
[13:01] <Stanislav> because
[13:01] <call911> you make your own?
[13:01] <Stanislav> so much "woah"
[13:01] <Stanislav> and they havent even coded it
[13:01] <Stanislav> lol
[13:01] <Stanislav> fai
[13:01] <Stanislav> l
[13:02] <Stanislav> well they coded all functions
[13:02] <call911> is carberp a ruski word?
[13:02] <Stanislav> like formgrabbing, etc.
[13:02] <TouchMe> Stanislav
[13:02] <Stanislav> No
[13:02] <Stanislav> Carberp is a dog
[13:02] <TouchMe> i wouldn't say any are more advanced
[13:02] <Stanislav> mystical
[13:02] <TouchMe> they're very different
[13:02] <TouchMe> i think tdl4 disk filter method is most advanced though
[13:02] <Stanislav> reading about TDL on habr atm
[13:03] <call911> does everyone here russian?
[13:04] <TouchMe> no
[13:04] <TouchMe> I'm mexican
[13:04] <TouchMe> i only speak meaxican
[13:04] <Stanislav> lol
[13:04] <Stanislav> call911, i speak ru
[13:04] <Stanislav> btw
[13:04] <Stanislav> any bootkits
[13:04] <Stanislav> for UEFI yet?
[13:05] <TouchMe> yeah
[13:05] <TouchMe> not seen any for sale though
[13:06] <TouchMe> still too many computers use BIOS lol
[13:06] <TouchMe> UEFI is more dev friendly
[13:06] <TouchMe> you can write UEFI bootloaders in C
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[13:07] <Stanislav> lol
[13:07] <call911> but can you multiboot?
[13:07] <Stanislav> i use teh bioz
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[13:07] <call911> I run windows in smm mode
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[13:09] <Stanislav> why antivirus programs
[13:09] <Stanislav> just dont make bootkits
[13:09] <Stanislav> lol
[13:09] <Stanislav> load b4 OS , profit
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[13:10] <betaisfag> hello
[13:10] <call911> because they'd detect windows as a virus >:)
[13:10] <betaisfag> haha
[13:10] <betaisfag> yeah
[13:10] <call911> is there any reliable way to test heuristics?
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[13:10] <betaisfag> Windows is viruz
[13:11] <betaisfag> heuristic protection sucks bro
[13:11] <betaisfag> :d
[13:11] <call911> no for my vir I need to test if heuristics detects it, scanners just do static
[13:11] <call911> and anubis sucks
[13:11] <TouchMe> lol antivirus bootkits
[13:11] <call911> sell the idea
[13:11] <call911> now
[13:11] <betaisfag> lol touchme
[13:11] <betaisfag> great idea
[13:11] <betaisfag> :D
[13:11] <call911> your ip is slipping away
[13:11] <betaisfag> av bootket
[13:11] <TouchMe> tbh antiviruses and rootkits are the same thing
[13:11] <TouchMe> just different purpose
[13:11] <betaisfag> rootkits yes
[13:11] <betaisfag> but some bootkits bypass av by loading earlier
[13:11] <betaisfag> so
[13:11] <betaisfag> av must have bootkit
[13:12] <betaisfag> lmfao
[13:12] <call911> unfinity chain
[13:12] <call911> inb4 carberp bootkit av
[13:12] <call911> actually what I really want is some AV source
[13:12] <call911> like not from 2010
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[13:13] <call911> *2004
[13:13] <betaisfag> 2008 kaspersky source
[13:13] <betaisfag> 1 . 5 gb
[13:13] <betaisfag> downloaded it once
[13:13] <call911> have it
[13:13] <betaisfag> too complicated
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[13:13] <call911> it's a piece of shit organized
[13:13] <call911> well it's organized terribly
[13:13] <call911> everything is extern
[13:13] <betaisfag> lol
[13:14] <call911> call somefunction() if someevent() for(; extern var; ++extern counter)
[13:14] <call911> like fuck me
[13:14] <betaisfag> sam2011hacker Wrote:  i know about boolean but i was asking about why er using boolean in c++. Cant we make crypter without boolean
[13:14] <betaisfag> Lmfao
[13:14] <betaisfag> dafuq did i just see
[13:14] <betaisfag> bool isretarded true;
[13:14] <call911> ooooooooooold
[13:14] <betaisfag> lmfao
[13:14] <betaisfag> LAUGHNING IRL
[13:14] <betaisfag> WTF
[13:14] <call911> bool vs BOOLEAN go
[13:14] <betaisfag> LMFAO
[13:15] <call911> almost as good as
[13:15] <call911> Coolguy: pointers are almost exclusively used in malware
[13:17] <betaisfag> Pointer to my ass value
[13:17] <betaisfag> pls
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[13:18] <call911> bool *skidforumssucks = &true
[13:19] <betaisfag> cya fags
[13:19] <betaisfag> imma sleep
[13:19] <betaisfag> <3
[13:19] <call911> sleep is for week
[13:19] <call911> </3
[13:19] <Und3rc0ver|afk> <3
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[13:26] <apol0> noob question
[13:26] <apol0> someone know why create varchar in mysql with infinite value ?
[13:26] <apol0> hwo to create .... ***
[13:26] <Z> use TEXT
[13:26] <apol0> ok
[13:27] <apol0> jeje
[13:27] <apol0> Z,  tranks :)
[13:27] <apol0> what is the max value for text ? just curiosity
[13:30] <apol0> TEXT	65,535 bytes	~64kb
[13:30] <apol0> MEDIUMTEXT	 16,777,215 bytes	~16MB
[13:30] <apol0> LONGTEXT	4,294,967,295 bytes	~4GB
[13:31] <apol0> i need MEDIUMTEXT
[13:31] <Z> you need to store 16mb long texts ?
[13:31] <apol0> no
[13:31] <apol0> but i need more than 64 kb
[13:31] <apol0> maybe 300k max
[08:47] <Flowz> How u doin?
[08:48] <TouchMe> gd, you?
[08:51] <Flowz> Good, but feeling shitty at same time. Pain everywhere because of snowboard.
[08:52] <TouchMe> lmao
[08:53] <TouchMe> I'm wondering if btc could reach 2$ per day
[08:53] <van1lle> int not Flowz
[08:53] <van1lle> its
[08:53] <TouchMe> been doing $1 and a bit
[08:53] <TouchMe> looks like Flowz
[08:53] <van1lle> lol
[08:53] <van1lle> Flowz, how come you have internet there?
[08:53] <TouchMe> AndChat442 ident but different host
[08:54] <Flowz> Stealing WiFi.. moar hex code.
[08:54] <van1lle> lol
[08:54] <TouchMe> that's Flowz
[08:54] <Flowz> Im laying in bed, taking a rest
[08:54] <TouchMe> seems i know your friends better than you do van1lle ;p
[08:55] <van1lle> probably ;)
[08:55] <Flowz> TouchMe smelled my anus through irc.
[08:55] <TouchMe> :)))
[08:55] <Flowz> recognized me instantly
[08:55] <TouchMe> dat anus smell
[08:55] <Flowz> Whats new btw?
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[08:56] <sevium> Btc prices?
[08:56] <TouchMe> van1lle came out of the closet yesterday
[08:56] <TouchMe> and btc is going up $1 per da
[08:56] <TouchMe> day*
[08:56] <sevium> Price atm?
[08:56] <TouchMe> 25.42
[08:56] * sevium is now known as Flowz
[08:56] <TouchMe> i have 17 in my account atm
[08:56] <Flowz> Nice!
[08:56] <TouchMe> considering if to buy a few k worth
[08:57] <TouchMe> i wish i had when it was at 21
[08:57] <TouchMe> i thought about it, but decided it would probably go down
[08:57] <Flowz> TouchMe Ill buy your btc @ 1$
[08:57] <TouchMe> sounds like a good deal
[08:57] <TouchMe> I'll use paypal!
[08:58] <Flowz> Expect drop at 30.
[08:58] <van1lle> i think i gonna buy some btc once the butterfly rigs are released and price goes down
[08:58] <TouchMe> bv1 did me a good deal
[08:58] <TouchMe> sold be 15 for 300%
[08:58] <TouchMe> 300$
[08:58] <TouchMe> so instant 60$ profit
[08:59] <TouchMe> now an 80$ profit
[08:59] <Flowz> Indeed
[08:59] <TouchMe> not bad deal
[08:59] * bake slaps van1lle around a bit with a large trout
[08:59] <bake> fake van1lle or real van1lle
[08:59] <TouchMe> someone might be paying me 1k tomorrow
[08:59] <van1lle> yo bake
[08:59] <van1lle> real
[09:00] <TouchMe> so if they do, I'll buy btc
[09:00] <bake> ok cool
[09:00] <bake> i message u then
[09:00] <TouchMe> all da btc
[09:00] <van1lle> kk
[09:00] <Flowz> Might also buy a few.
[09:00] <van1lle> got a fucking earworm of this song :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lh7Zg8WXwU
[09:00] <TouchMe> fake bv1 offered me 400$ for that formgrabber thing
[09:01] <TouchMe> wants a dll that hooks chrome SSL and non SSL
[09:01] <Flowz> I offer you 10 dollar for formgrabber and ruutkit
[09:01] <TouchMe> sure
[09:01] <TouchMe> give me your address
[09:01] <TouchMe> will send via mail
[09:01] <van1lle> I COULD BE THE ONE TO SET YOU FREEEEEEEEEEE
[09:02] <Flowz> Waterloo 2500 - sterfkind 2 - Belgium
[09:03] <Flowz> Van1lle streaming takes shitload, whats the name of the song?
[09:03] <van1lle> avicii vs nicky romeo - i could be the one
[09:03] <van1lle> or someshit
* Looking up Skidlist user info...
[09:04] <van1lle> did betamonkey release his bot yet?
[09:04] <TouchMe> shit song
[09:04] <TouchMe> ok video
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[09:11] <TouchMe> http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/09/2012-tesla-model-s-fd.jpg
[09:11] <TouchMe> looks kinda cool
[09:11] <TouchMe> shame it's electric ;\
[09:12] <van1lle> electric cars always look shitty
[09:12] <Sun_> @Touch : contoversy around that car in the news
[09:12] <TouchMe> i wouldn't get it
[09:12] <TouchMe> i kinda like the look
[09:12] <TouchMe> but it's only $50k because it has shitty electric engine
[09:12] <TouchMe> if it had real engine it would be like 100k
[09:13] <Sun_> its got nice curves I give you that
[09:14] <TouchMe> ya
[09:14] <Sun_> @beta : you here motherfucker ?
[09:14] <TouchMe> i don't see electric cars catching on
[09:15] <Sun_> not unless their range and charging periods are improved
[09:15] <TouchMe> even then it seems shitty
[09:15] <Sun_> no power
[09:15] <Sun_> :D
[09:15] <TouchMe> yup
[09:15] <TouchMe> and takes ages to charge
[09:15] <Sun_> btw you heard of atlas shrugged ?
[09:15] <TouchMe> running out of fuel is bad enough
[09:15] <TouchMe> nah
[09:16] <Sun_> atlas shrugged is a prettty old novel ( its written terribly ) but there was a movie adaptation which is half decent
[09:16] <Sun_> first one is excellent. second is meh but still good enough to continue on to a third movie
[09:17] <Sun_> it deals with issue of shortage of oil stocks around teh world. Economy collapses, government becomes even worse ( greedier )
[09:17] <TouchMe> sounds like a cool movie
[09:17] <Sun_> and in there they developed a electric motor which runs on static electricity :D
[09:17] <TouchMe> i will take a look
[09:17] <Sun_> yea, its gaining popularity because its economic situation is comparable to present day
[09:17] <TouchMe> futures bright
[09:17] <TouchMe> lol whoever said that shit
[09:18] <Sun_> :D
[09:18] <Sun_> might as well just move to some nordic country
[09:18] <TouchMe> goodbye freedom hello oppression
[09:18] <Sun_> and freeze my balls off in the process
[09:18] <TouchMe> lol
[09:18] <TouchMe> I will somehow become very rich and buy the moon
[09:18] <TouchMe> then i will make it my own country
[09:19] <TouchMe> and only allow in peaceful people
[09:19] <Sun_> sounds promising
[09:19] <Sun_> you heard about the mars mission ?
[09:19] <TouchMe> nope
[09:20] <Sun_> 2023
[09:20] <Sun_> mission to mars to setup a human colony
[09:20] <Sun_> application process is open now
[09:20] <Sun_> anyone under the age of 65 + over 18 years can apply
[09:20] <Sun_> training is 8 years, in netherlands
[09:21] <Sun_> also have to realise : its a one way mission
[09:21] <Sun_> you stay and die on mars
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[09:25] <TouchMe> if there's internet I'd take it
[09:25] <TouchMe> i don't understand why american keep sending up shitty robots to check for life
[09:25] <slid3> ^ winning first message
[09:25] <TouchMe> why not just seed the planet
[09:25] <Sun_> haha maybe if a satellite is orbiting aroudn it
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[09:26] <Sun_> I think there will be internet btw
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[09:26] <Sun_> because the astronauts will want to contact their families back home
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[09:26] <TouchMe> yeah
[09:26] <TouchMe> they need to go setup a biosphere on mars
[09:26] <TouchMe> then their main task is to find how to create water
[09:26] <Sun_> yep
[09:26] <Sun_> thats the idea
[09:27] <Sun_> they have a plan for it too
[09:27] <Sun_> max population will be 80k
[09:27] <Sun_> any more, civil war
[09:27] <TouchMe> then they try to bring back water to rest of planet
[09:27] <Sun_> any less, gene and culture pool will die out
[09:27] <TouchMe> lol
[09:27] <TouchMe> not a bad thing
[09:27] <TouchMe> kill the stupid people off
[09:27] <Sun_> negative
[09:27] <Sun_> the people will be screened before they get sent to mars
[09:28] <Sun_> so you will get smart ass people on mars
[09:28] <TouchMe> lol
[09:28] <TouchMe> sign me up
[09:28] <Sun_> not the usual hill billy faggot
[09:28] <TouchMe> anyone who uses terms like yolo and swag should be banned from even having their application read
[09:28] <Sun_> yep
[09:29] <TouchMe> i like the idea
[09:29] <sevium> Go to mars, cuz yolo
[09:29] <TouchMe> it's about time humans stopped being useless fuck
[09:29] <TouchMe> and go colonize another planet
[09:29] <Sun_> yep
[09:29] <big> i wana go to mars becuz yolo
[09:29] <Sun_> ah you'll like this too touch
[09:29] <Sun_> Deep Space Industries
[09:29] <Sun_> heard of them ?
[09:29] <TouchMe> all we've done for the last however many years
[09:29] <TouchMe> is kill eachother
[09:29] <TouchMe> and everything that moves
[09:30] <Sun_> we still will its human nature
[09:30] <TouchMe> human nature is bad nature
[09:30] <Sun_> DSI are planning to start mining asteroids
[09:30] <TouchMe> what would we need from asteroids
[09:30] <Sun_> negative, what about the other side ? peace, love
[09:30] <Sun_> there are bad and good aspects of humans
[09:30] <Sun_> minerals mayne
[09:30] <Sun_> unlimited resources :)
[09:31] <TouchMe> all animals have that
[09:31] <TouchMe> it's just humans have this extra need
[09:31] <TouchMe> a need to kill everything and everyone
[09:31] <TouchMe> i think they need to find a big asteroid and build a house on it
[09:31] <Sun_> yea, but humans also have the intelligent side
[09:31] <TouchMe> some do
[09:31] <TouchMe> the majority don't
[09:31] <Sun_> yea touch take a look at this
[09:32] <Sun_> see how much money can be made from space mining
[09:33] <TouchMe> not sure how it works really
[09:33] <TouchMe> if we start introducing resources to our planet from space
[09:33] <TouchMe> doesn't that effect the value of everything
[09:33] <Sun_> yes it will
[09:34] <Sun_> you will need to grow the economy
[09:34] <Sun_> + it would be a good time to start colonising space
[09:34] <TouchMe> but atm space mining would fail
[09:34] <TouchMe> costs too much per trip
[09:34] <TouchMe> and that's just carrying people
[09:34] <Sun_> ah yes :) thats where DSI comes in
[09:34] <Sun_> it has mining robots
[09:34] <TouchMe> but they would still need a means of getting back to earth
[09:34] <Sun_> + initial mining runs will be resources to build platforms for humans in space
[09:35] <Sun_> yep, take a look at virgin galactic. their mechanism of getting into space is quite ingenius
[09:35] <TouchMe> not something i expect to see in my lifetime
[09:35] <Sun_> you can also construct a space bridge
[09:35] <Sun_> :D
[09:35] <Sun_> dr. who style
[09:35] <TouchMe> but it's good to know it may finally happen
[09:36] <TouchMe> then daleks vaporize everyone
[09:36] <TouchMe> start over
[09:36] <Sun_> yep :) it gives me hope that humans arent going t ofuck themselves in the ass any more
[09:36] <TouchMe> but we can expect a few more years of it
[09:36] <Sun_> yup
[09:37] <Sun_> a few more years of greedy profiteering on earth
[09:37] <Sun_> but perhaps in our lifetimes, we can visit mars eh
[09:37] <TouchMe> we should just leave nk, iran and america to their pissing contests
[09:37] <TouchMe> and jet off across the stars
[09:37] <Sun_> if we have a $500k budget lol
[09:37] <TouchMe> lol
[09:37] <Sun_> :D
[09:37] <Sun_> "two star crossed lovers fly across the sky" - Abraham Lincon via Twitter
[09:38] <Sun_> but seriously, space is the next frontier ( cliche much ? )
* Looking up Sun_ user info...
[09:39] <TouchMe> lol
[09:39] <Sun_> fuck politics, love knowledge
[09:40] <TouchMe> i want to know what happens to economy when you have trillions of $'s just appering from nowhere due to space mining
[09:40] <Sun_> inflation
[09:40] <Sun_> :D
[09:40] <Sun_> im guessing
[09:40] <Sun_> I have no clue on economics
[09:40] <TouchMe> not my strong point either
[09:40] <Sun_> but I'd imagine you'd have to restrict the flow of resources to earth
[09:41] <Sun_> just enough to balance the economy, but at the same time create global prosperity
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[09:43] <Sun_> oh to dream. I'd imagine some fucktard will get greedy though and ruin it for everyone
[09:43] <TouchMe> yup lol
[09:50] <Stanislav> Touchme is gay
[09:51] <TouchMe> lol
[09:51] <Sun_> aaaand the collective intelligence dropped with that sentence
[09:52] <TouchMe> Stanislav TM
[09:52] <AndChat|442224> Are there actually any universial laws who are valid in the whole unverse?
[09:52] <TouchMe> destrory of intelligent conversations
[09:52] <TouchMe> AndChat|442224, yes
[09:52] <TouchMe> Flowz must pay me 10k per month or risk death sentence
[09:52] <TouchMe> regardless of planet
[09:53] <Sun_> :D
[09:53] <Sun_> @AndChat thats a good question. no one is too sure on that with 100% certainty
[09:54] <Sun_> dont know if space is finite or infinite, so laws could possibly vary
[09:55] <AndChat|442224> Well I am allowed to fuck animals on mars rote?
[09:55] <AndChat|442224> Rite
[09:55] <TouchMe> technically there would be no laws
[09:55] <TouchMe> no one on this planet has a right to establish international laws
[09:55] <TouchMe> intergalactic*
[09:55] <@ident> Hmm
[09:55] <TouchMe> america will try
[09:56] <Sun_> MURICA
[09:56] <TouchMe> then maybe aliens come along and vaporize them for being so rude
[09:56] <Sun_> finders keepers right ?
[09:56] <+urg3> There are space laws
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[09:56] <+urg3> Like no warfare, nuclear testing and stuff
[09:57] <Sun_> yea thats common agreement laws
[09:57] <TouchMe> mm
[09:57] <sevium> As fat is the humane universales which is valed im the whole universe.
[09:58] <Sun_> wat
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[09:58] <Sun_> lol some bad ass connection there
[09:59] <sevium> True shitty wifi
[10:00] <sevium> As far as I know*
[10:00] <sevium> Homo universales*
[10:00] <sevium> valid*
[10:02] <Sun_> as soon as alien species (if they exist) are found, that will not work any longer
[10:06] <TouchMe> would be more funny if they found us
[10:06] <TouchMe> by the time we colonize mars they have like 50 million planets under their control
[10:06] <TouchMe> just vaporize our solar system
[10:06] <TouchMe> the minute america trys to fuck with their laws
[10:06] <Sun_> yea it would probably be likely they could find us first
[10:06] <Sun_> hahaha
[10:07] <Sun_> I can imagine murica trying push their policies on a super advanced species
[10:07] <TouchMe> me too lololol
[10:07] <TouchMe> "no one can have weapons except us"
[10:07] <sevium> Lololol
[10:07] <Sun_> and the nordic countries will be all like "bro, we aren't with them."
[10:07] <sevium> hahaha.
[10:08] <Sun_> :D
[10:08] <Sun_> hear about NK doing that est ?
[10:09] <Sun_> *test
[10:09] <TouchMe> yeah
[10:09] <TouchMe> they caused a mini earthquake and japan was like wtf mayne
[10:09] <Sun_> haha
[10:09] <Sun_> I dont get NK policies
[10:09] <Sun_> let the people starve, while defence budget skyrockets
[10:10] <Sun_> Shtalin all over again
[10:10] <TouchMe> yeah
[10:10] <TouchMe> except everyone is years ahead of nk
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[10:10] <TouchMe> they don't really stand a chance
[10:10] <TouchMe> even china is backing out
[10:10] <TouchMe> like "bro you're drunk, stop this shit"
[10:11] <Sun_> if NK did do some serious damage they would get vaporized
[10:11] <+urg3> They do it to force talks with he US
[10:11] <Sun_> haha yea
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[10:11] <Sun_> @urg : force talks ? on what subject ?
[10:11] <+urg3> US + NK relations has been since buchs
[10:11] <+urg3> THey want aid and stuff
[10:11] <TouchMe> i think most countries have nuke NK on speed dial
[10:12] <Sun_> they could get all that shit, if they toned down on the defence budget
[10:12] <Sun_> and let the us keep their status quo
[10:12] <+urg3> NK leaders arn't stupid, they know they will lose any war, but they beef up so a war against them will cost some blood for the attackers even tho they will lose in the end
[10:12] <Sun_> yea, attrition damage
[10:13] <Sun_> well collateral to be accurate tbh
[10:13] <+urg3> Sun_: Not without the US demanding political change for the aid
[10:13] <BV1> And to make their citizens think they're invulnerable
[10:13] <Sun_> yep thats true
[10:14] <+urg3> By showing muscles they get aid for "free", although it will get to a point where they wont be able to flex anymore
[10:14] <+urg3> They got the nuclear reactors from the US in the first place
[10:23] <betamonkey> http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/heart-attack-grill-spokesman-dies-apparent-heart-attack-162858075.html
[10:24] <TouchMe> betamonkey, did you see lapd cops just shooting at random pickup trucks
[10:24] <snooze> Not even ones of the right make or color
[10:24] <TouchMe> yeah lol
[10:24] <TouchMe> only in america
[10:24] <TouchMe> their idea of "capture and bring to justice"
[10:24] <snooze> They are out for blood
[10:25] <TouchMe> is my idea of he'll never make it to trial
[10:25] <TouchMe> will be really surpised if they capture him
[10:25] <TouchMe> even if he ties himself up
[10:25] <TouchMe> they're still gunna shoot him
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[10:26] <snooze> Yep. They don't let people get away with killing cops
[10:26] <snooze> esp since he went after their families
[10:27] <TouchMe> they're pretty out of contril
[10:27] <TouchMe> control*
[10:28] <snooze> They're scared. very dangerous to be around
[10:29] <TouchMe> I think the best model would be not issuing police with guns
[10:29] <betamonkey> TouchMe: yeah
[10:29] <TouchMe> having some sort of more highly trained tactical unit
[10:29] <TouchMe> and general police having tazers or something
[10:30] <TouchMe> you give police guns and you get shit like this. They get butthurt and go into shoot first ask questions later mode.
[10:31] <TouchMe> http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/7/2013/02/notdorner.jpg
[10:31] <betamonkey> don't you know touchme
[10:31] <betamonkey> police are the biggest gang of all
[10:31] <TouchMe> that made me laugh though
[10:31] <TouchMe> yeah ik
[10:32] <TouchMe> there's very few cases where police being armed does any good
[10:32] <TouchMe> most of the time they would have time to call some sort of armed unit
[10:33] <BV1> this whole dorner thing has been happening where I live
[10:33] <BV1> it's been hilarious
[10:33] <TouchMe> lol
[10:33] <betamonkey> TouchMe: dorner should put that sign up on his car too
[10:33] <TouchMe> yeah xD
[10:33] <BV1> some tweet went out 'Dorner is in northridge' where i may or may not live
[10:33] <BV1> and streets were packed
[10:33] <BV1> cops were everywhere
[10:33] <TouchMe> lolol
[10:34] <TouchMe> you should make fake tweets
[10:34] <TouchMe> summon the police to funny places
[10:34] <betamonkey> he should submit an anonymous tip about himself to an abandoned warehouse
[10:34] <TouchMe> like nitting clubs
[10:34] <betamonkey> then when the cops flood it
[10:34] <TouchMe> knitting*
[10:34] <betamonkey> blow it up
[10:34] <BV1> ok im fbi
[10:34] <BV1> you're under arrest
[10:34] <TouchMe> awww shiiit nigga
[10:34] <BV1> thats terrorism
[10:34] <TouchMe> tbh idk why they're looking for his car
[10:34] <betamonkey> lol
[10:34] <betamonkey> shit
[10:34] <TouchMe> if he's an ex cop
[10:34] <betamonkey> it's curtains for betamonkey
[10:34] <TouchMe> he would have ditched car ages ago
[10:34] <BV1> he ditched his car i think they found it
[10:35] <TouchMe> in other news: pickup truck sales are down 100%
[10:35] <BV1> TMZ has a video of a suspected Dorner entering a sporting goods store with 2 small scuba tanks and leaving with those + a larger 3rd one

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