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  1. [9:32:52 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: if helen had a face that could launch a thousand ships
  2. [9:33:19 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: does that make the amount of force to launch one ship is a milliHelen?
  3. [9:33:47 AM] Seffs: Yes, milliHelens are the SI standard of beauty.
  4. [9:34:06 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: good to know
  5. [9:34:22 AM] Seffs: Thus, the Dunkirk evacuation is more beautiful than most movie stars.
  6. [9:34:34 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: ehehehe
  7. [9:34:50 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: also that'd mean your average person would be rated in microHelens
  8. [9:35:35 AM] Seffs: If you're lucky, someone might sail one of those little paper boats for you?
  9. [9:35:46 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: maybe=P
  10. [9:35:53 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: this needs a wiki article
  11. [9:35:56 AM] Seffs: Maybe it's a factor of Tonnage?
  12. [9:36:29 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: well I guess the ships were pretty light compared to modern large ships
  13. [9:36:30 AM] Seffs: I mean, the Bismarck is objectively more beautiful than the BEF.
  14. [9:37:07 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: the Queen must be rated pretty high in the Helenic scale
  15. [9:37:14 AM] xthetenth: the bismarck is an ugly seaslut
  16. [9:37:31 AM] Seffs: How many triremes is a KGV battleship worth?
  17. [9:37:42 AM] Seffs: And are they metric or imperial triremes?
  18. [9:37:50 AM] xthetenth: not that many, the KGV was kind of fugly too
  19. [9:38:00 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: this is not the beauty of the ships
  20. [9:38:10 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: its the beauty of the person launching said ships
  21. [9:38:24 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: or the person who is the cause for launching
  22. [9:38:29 AM] Seffs: One Helen is 1000 triremes (or similar).
  23. [9:38:39 AM] xthetenth: so the BEF must have been fugly considering how few ships got launched per person
  24. [9:39:00 AM] Seffs: But a KGV, which was dispatched to stop the Bismarck is worth how many triremes for purposes of comparison?
  25. [9:40:04 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: would you rate it on size or time/effort of actual construction
  26. [9:40:23 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: or net worth?
  27. [9:40:27 AM] xthetenth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbinMG1dYU0&feature=player_embedded
  28. [9:40:30 AM] Seffs: You'd think tonnage would be a good place to start.
  29. [9:40:45 AM] xthetenth: flying tanks.
  30. [9:40:49 AM] xthetenth: this amuses me
  31. [9:42:06 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: well the thing is the ships sent to get helen were not very heavy
  32. [9:42:17 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: but they would have been big ships considering the time
  33. [9:42:46 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: and the amount of work to build one was considerable
  34. [9:43:00 AM] Seffs: So if we transpose the greek fleet for the RN circa 1941...
  35. [9:43:13 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: and the resource/manpower cost would have been considerable
  36. [9:43:36 AM] xthetenth: SPHERICAL MASSES OF IRON! arrying on.
  37. [9:44:03 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: however if the same expenditure was considered in the modern day it would probbly be equivilant to sending a carrier group
  38. [9:44:05 AM] Seffs: Assume the 1000 greek ships are perfectly spherical masses of oak...
  39. [9:45:47 AM] Seffs: Well, a carrier group is a lot few ships than 1000...
  40. [9:45:51 AM] Seffs: *fewer
  41. [9:45:52 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: Triremes are said to have carried 200 men
  42. [9:46:12 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: yes but it has similar impact
  43. [9:46:13 AM] xthetenth: probably more factoring in marines
  44. [9:46:45 AM] Seffs: I know, but if we can get equivalence between carrier groups per greek fleet...
  45. [9:46:49 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: 200 men 170 rowers and the rest are soldiers/crew
  46. [9:47:08 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: how many ships are in a carrier group?
  47. [9:47:27 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: maybe it needs to be a fleet ala the one that is/was in Japan
  48. [9:47:36 AM] xthetenth: I'd think it can get as high as 30 deployed
  49. [9:47:38 AM] xthetenth: it can be a lot
  50. [9:47:58 AM] xthetenth: probably 10 escorts bare minimum
  51. [9:48:22 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: considering that 1000 ships is a rediculous number even in Helens day
  52. [9:48:27 AM] xthetenth: oh yeah
  53. [9:48:51 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: mayhap its equivilant to the navy of a major nation
  54. [9:49:08 AM] xthetenth: that's what it's poetese for
  55. [9:49:15 AM] Seffs: So... the battle of Jutland was the most beautiful battle ever?
  56. [9:49:34 AM] xthetenth: hah.
  57. [9:49:39 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: or at least the reason for launch was on the scale of decihelens
  58. [9:49:48 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: or entire helens
  59. [9:49:54 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: a helen per side
  60. [9:49:58 AM] xthetenth: I'd say the battles off the Philippines
  61. [9:50:17 AM] Seffs: By which we can relate that the Bismark was at least in the centi or even low deci-Helens.
  62. [9:50:18 AM] xthetenth: shroomy is the most beautiful people ever
  63. [9:50:43 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: indeed
  64. [9:51:02 AM] Seffs: Result!
  65. [9:51:19 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: it would be the bismark considering that the 1000 ships were sent to retrieve Helen
  66. [9:51:42 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: so the helen rating would be applied to the objective of the deployment
  67. [9:51:56 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: so japan as a nation should be rated in multiple helens
  68. [9:52:19 AM] Metabolically Incompetent: considering it launched almost the entire american navy
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