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Full Forest Extended Manip

Feb 15th, 2026
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  1. credits:
  2. KinkMyBoot for lots of help figuring stuff out and running some searches
  3. Grogir for his existing work on this
  4. KaiWhen
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  6. What is Full Forest Extended (aka nonuple/nuntuple if you're Kink)?
  7. This uses the existing v2 Pidgey paths and extends all the way through forest and weedle fight into no encounter post fight. Because Squirtle stats affect RNG in both forest and weedle fight, forest paths vary for each Squirtle stat combo in order to get a good fight. To be able to execute this manip consistently, a path tool was developed along with modifications to FlowTimer.
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  9. Example: https://youtu.be/rCWUY-nQQkQ
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  11. Notes:
  12. - Paths depend on Squirtle's HP, Max HP, Atk and Def. HP values range from 12-Max
  13. - There are two types of forest paths, antidote pickup (denoted by 'a' e.g. p2a) and antidote skip (denoted by 'b' e.g. p2b)
  14. - 3 frame window on Weedle Guy textbox
  15. - Weedle fights are 6 turn (7 turn if 10 atk) with no crits/poison and max 2 poison stings
  16. - 10 atk fights lead with 3 tail whips
  17. - Select buffer each turn that you are not switching moves
  18. - Path 1 uses an alt Pidgey path: https://gunnermaniac.com/pokeworld?map=1#33/181/DRRUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRURUUUUUURUUUULUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLUUUUURRRAURAUUU
  19. - Forest paths contain 2-5 A presses (3 most common), post fight contains 0-4 A presses, no start flashes in any
  20. - Expect missing paths for some Squirtle stat combos (there are a lot)
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  22. Current Paths (as of v0.4):
  23. - p1a: 104 paths
  24. - p2a: 251 paths (includes 10 atk)
  25. - p2b: 152 paths
  26. - p3b: 88 paths
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  28. Red Extended Path Tool (RedExtTool):
  29. - This program enables runners to input their current Squirtle stats to display the corresponding path image
  30. - Displays IGT target frames and IGT second failures
  31. - Displays post fight path A press tile numbers (0 being the tile to the left post fight)
  32. - Displays outcomes for each IGT target frame including 1 frame early/late
  33. - Displays a path image on the right with tabs for each Pidgey path
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  35. FlowTimer Modifications:
  36. - Visual timer shows current IGT second based on offset and delayers
  37. - Add second failure textbox to IGT Timers
  38. - Allow selection and playing different beeps for IGT second failures
  39. - Read current target frame and IGT seconds from Red Extended Path Tool while FlowTimer is running
  40. - Allow target frame to be a floating point value
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  43. --- Setup Instructions ---
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  45. Red Extended Path Tool: https://github.com/KaiWhen/RedExtTool
  46. FlowTimer: https://github.com/KaiWhen/FlowTimer
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  48. - Go to the links above, read the README and download the latest version under releases (download Flowtimer-g.exe if you used Grogir's build g-62)
  49. - Download the latest path bundle via the Google Drive link found in RedExtTool's README
  50. - Open both programs and set your preferred keybinds for hotkeys
  51. - For the stat boxes, use hotkeys, click the arrows or hover mouse and scroll to change values
  52. - In FlowTimer, create an offset named 'nidoext' (it has to be this name) and set it to your existing Nido offset + 4000ms (e.g. 4740)
  53. - Once FlowTimer is started, the target frame and second failures will update whenever paths change in RedExtTool
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  56. Future Plans:
  57. - Since it's difficult to cover so many Squirtle stats, we'll continue to do searches for ones missing (whenever we feel like it)
  58. - Add p1b, p3a, and 10 atk paths for ones without
  59. - Maybe look into no exp into rat post weedle but that's a bit of a stretch
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  62. Also big thanks to Reignover, MaddiicT, and Yujito for testing
Tags: PSR
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