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Dec 18th, 2015
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  1. [10:11] * barabbas`afk is now known as barabbas`
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  10. [10:25] <+NormalSubmarine> hi
  11. [10:25] <+Ross> hi NormalSubmarine
  12. [10:25] <+NormalSubmarine> hi Ross
  13. [10:26] <+Ross> what's new with you
  14. [10:26] <+NormalSubmarine> having coffee
  15. [10:28] <+layla-> hi sub
  16. [10:28] <+NormalSubmarine> hi layla-
  17. [10:30] <+Ross> layla, why do muslims observe fridays to/for
  18. [10:30] <+layla-> jumah + kutbah
  19. [10:31] <+NormalSubmarine> layla- why muslim become violent after friday prayer?
  20. [10:31] <+layla-> kutbah?
  21. [10:31] <+Ross> speaking a foreign language to ppl who do not understand your language is gibberish to them
  22. [10:31] <+layla-> most will.sleep during kutbah. lol
  23. [10:32] <+layla-> here i.mean
  24. [10:32] <+layla-> my son told.me.there is one masjid he went.the kutbah was realky good
  25. [10:33] <+layla-> bcoz the imam talked about science n.it caught his attention
  26. [10:34] <+layla-> it depends on.the kutbah
  27. [10:34] <@barabbas`> layla- You didn't answer earlier. Do you understand now why Bush isn't a terrorist?
  28. [10:34] <+NormalSubmarine> lol imam talking abt science is miracle indeed
  29. [10:34] <+layla-> either it cld fiery one up or put one to sleep. lol
  30. [10:34] <@barabbas`> what is a kutbah? Is that a bamb factory? I mean, science and muslims one has to wonder.
  31. [10:35] <+layla-> move on barabbas
  32. [10:35] <+Ross> kutbah is call to prayer, i think
  33. [10:35] <+Toph> barabbas`,,, that was rather rude
  34. [10:35] <+layla-> nope
  35. [10:35] <+Ross> loud speakers blarring the call
  36. [10:35] <@barabbas`> layla-: No, I am not going to move on. From what I see, you are talking about buiding bombs. If you can't speak English then we are all open to our own interpretations.
  37. [10:37] <@barabbas`> layla- I hope you are beginning to see why using a foreign language is rude and can lead to a false understanding.
  38. [10:38] <+layla-> false understanding comes from.the heart
  39. [10:38] <+Toph> to most of the Muslim world and much of the western world, Bush would be considered a terrorist if he wasn't American
  40. [10:38] <+layla-> the heart cant receive any message
  41. [10:38] <@barabbas`> Ross Well, earlier layla- was talking about terrorists. Then I come back and she is talking about science and Muslims and using a few arabic words that I don't understand. So, given what I do understand, and the context of the conversation, bomb building makes sense.
  42. [10:39] <+Ross> Jehavoh gave the eveing and morning worship service to ancient israel .... mohamed calls to 5 times a day
  43. [10:39] <+layla-> how would u know its arabic barabbas
  44. [10:39] <@barabbas`> layla-: Not in this case. Had you used the English terms that I am familiar with, I would understand. Instead you use foreign terms for certain words. This leaves it all open to me having to make my own connections.
  45. [10:39] <+Raven`X> But Bush wasn't a terrorist. He was the head of state. The President of a internationally recognised country.
  46. [10:39] * +NuzzlePaws (~anonymous@168-215-112-182.static.twtelecom.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  47. [10:40] <+Ross> speaking a foreign language to ppl who do not understand you language is gibberish to those whom you speak
  48. [10:40] <+Toph> Raven`X,,, yes, but some would argue, he was President of the world's #1 terrorist state
  49. [10:40] <+layla-> we use the word.kutbah
  50. [10:40] <+Raven`X> Some would be wrong Toph.
  51. [10:40] <@barabbas`> layla-; because you have said so, you call it the language of heaven and I know Muslims believe arabic to be that language. See, I am really good at making the right connection if given enough information. However, when the context was terrorists and Muslims and you use foreign words, then the logical connection it to bomb building.
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  53. [10:40] <+layla-> its a heavenly language. maybe u can learn it too
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  55. [10:40] <+Raven`X> Some would be wrong Toph.
  56. [10:40] <@barabbas`> layla-; because you have said so, you call it the language of heaven and I know Muslims believe arabic to be that language. See, I am really good at making the right connection if given enough information. However, when the context was terrorists and Muslims and you use foreign words, then the logical connection it to bomb building.
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  58. [10:40] <+layla-> its a heavenly language. maybe u can learn it too
  59. [10:40] * BibleBot sets mode: +v enigma_m
  60. [10:40] <+Toph> Raven`X,,, I disagree
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  63. [10:41] <+Raven`X> Ah, well that is your right.
  64. [10:41] <+Raven`X> Doesn't make you right though.
  65. [10:41] <@barabbas`> layla-: I have no intention of learning it. The fact is YOU know English, yet you chose to be rude and use arabic here. Well, when you are missunderstood, don't blame me or others. It is because of your rudeness that missunderstandings are happening.
  66. [10:42] <@barabbas`> layla- my question is, why do you chose to be so rude?
  67. [10:42] <+layla-> we call it kutbah barabbas
  68. [10:42] <@barabbas`> layla- is being rude something all Muslims do? Is this a teaching of Muhammad?
  69. [10:42] <+Raven`X> What do you call kutbah?
  70. [10:42] <+Toph> barabbas`,,, the problem comes in with you by default associating a Muslim mosque with bombs
  71. [10:42] <+Ross> lol that's a new ... arabic the language of heaven
  72. [10:43] <@barabbas`> I don't know what you are calling kutbah. What is the ENGLISH equivalent. For me, it could be pipe bomb.
  73. [10:43] <+layla-> lol ross
  74. [10:43] <+layla-> it is
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  76. [10:43] <+Ross> rome says latin is the language of heaven, the jew says hebrew .... lol
  77. [10:43] <+Raven`X> I say it's Klingion!
  78. [10:44] <+Raven`X> Klingon rather.
  79. [10:44] <+Ross> Romulan
  80. [10:44] <@barabbas`> Toph No, it doesn't. see, the last conversation we had was about terrorists. Now, couple science, muslims and mosque with some foreign words and why wouldn't bombs etc be part of the context of terrorist, muslims and mosques?
  81. [10:45] <+Ross> maybe we'll be connected like the borg
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  84. [10:45] <+Toph> barabbas`,,, i think that is a stretch
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  86. [10:45] <@barabbas`> Toph: So, you think it is a stretch because you are no aware of the context and are making your assessment on your own bias. I get that.
  87. [10:45] <+layla-> when u visit singapore u might want to go.to.the mosque near NUS. the kutbah is educational.where the imam talks about quran and science
  88. [10:45] <+Ross> i see islam leading ppl to their death not life
  89. [10:46] <+Toph> barabbas`,,, well, that is my opinion,,, we are too eager to associate Muslims with terror and violence,, but I have to run,,, breakfast
  90. [10:46] <@barabbas`> layla- So the bomb building section in the mosque at Singapore is interesting? I mean, so far I have NO IDEA WHAT A KUTBAH IS.
  91. [10:46] * +Toph (~peace@h69-31-230-172.dynamic.platinum.ca) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  92. [10:47] * +Ross saves this log for NSA
  93. [10:47] <+Ross> lol
  94. [10:47] <+layla-> kutbah is a speech.before the friday prayers
  95. [10:47] <@barabbas`> layla- I didn't know the Quran tells us how to build bombs and kill innocents... well I do know it tells the Muslim to kill innocent people.
  96. [10:47] <+layla-> Ittaqullah barabbas
  97. [10:47] <+Ross> so there is a sermon at friday's noon prayer
  98. [10:47] <@barabbas`> layla- Why didn't you say that before? So now the insult. I am not Ittaqullah, whatever that means.
  99. [10:48] <+Ross> all this gives layla a chance to preach islam
  100. [10:48] <@barabbas`> Ross No there is a speech, Given her propensity for rudeness, I imagine the speech is a lecture on bomb building or how to be dissruptive in society. How to be rude to you neighbors etc.
  101. [10:49] <+layla-> maybe but the kutbah here are monitored
  102. [10:49] <@barabbas`> Ross She may think she is preaching Islam, but no one understands what she is saying. I think she is using this social media like those two Islamic terrorists In San Bernadino.
  103. [10:49] <+Ross> its all possible, they gotta do their plaining in secret societies
  104. [10:50] <+Ross> my appologies ... but the quran reads as non-sense to me
  105. [10:51] <@barabbas`> layla-; Sounds like they should be monitored. According to you and what I can glean out of your conflations of languages, the Kutbah is a speech about bombing innocent people. It is given before the prayer for success in their terrorist activities.
  106. [10:51] <+layla-> the understanding comes from Allah.
  107. [10:47] <+layla-> Ittaqullah barabbas
  108. [10:47] <+Ross> so there is a sermon at friday's noon prayer
  109. [10:47] <@barabbas`> layla- Why didn't you say that before? So now the insult. I am not Ittaqullah, whatever that means.
  110. [10:48] <+Ross> all this gives layla a chance to preach islam
  111. [10:48] <@barabbas`> Ross No there is a speech, Given her propensity for rudeness, I imagine the speech is a lecture on bomb building or how to be dissruptive in society. How to be rude to you neighbors etc.
  112. [10:49] <+layla-> maybe but the kutbah here are monitored
  113. [10:49] <@barabbas`> Ross She may think she is preaching Islam, but no one understands what she is saying. I think she is using this social media like those two Islamic terrorists In San Bernadino.
  114. [10:49] <+Ross> its all possible, they gotta do their plaining in secret societies
  115. [10:50] <+Ross> my appologies ... but the quran reads as non-sense to me
  116. [10:51] <@barabbas`> layla-; Sounds like they should be monitored. According to you and what I can glean out of your conflations of languages, the Kutbah is a speech about bombing innocent people. It is given before the prayer for success in their terrorist activities.
  117. [10:51] <+layla-> the understanding comes from Allah
  118. [10:51] <+Ross> i think if there was a message from God to mohamed, the message would transalate with no problems to all of the world as the gospel does
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  122. [10:52] <@barabbas`> layla- No the understanding comes from the person doing the speaking. Apparently you don't want anyone to understand. Is that how Islam works? You don't want anyone to understand? I mean, I can understand this considering how Muslim women are kept out of schools and away from education.
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  125. [10:53] <+layla-> hi enigma
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  127. [10:54] <@barabbas`> layla- You still haven't answered me. Why do you want to be so rude? What don't you want us to understand what you are saying?
  128. [10:54] <+layla-> barabbas
  129. [10:55] <@barabbas`> layla- :Please answer my question, and if you insult me again with some foreign phrase I don't understand you will be silenced.
  130. [10:55] <+layla-> maybe u can say this prayer : rabbi zidnii ilman warzuqnii fahman
  131. [10:55] * barabbas` sets mode: -v layla-
  132. [10:56] <@barabbas`> layla- That is the epitome of insults. Asking me to pray to a false god.
  133. [10:57] * +enigma_m (~chatzilla@116.203.76.195) Quit (Ping timeout)
  134. [10:57] * enigma_m_ is now known as enigma_m
  135. [10:57] <@barabbas`> There cannot be a free exchange of ideas if one side of the conversation refuses to clarify what they are saying.
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