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- [10:11] * barabbas`afk is now known as barabbas`
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- [10:25] <+NormalSubmarine> hi
- [10:25] <+Ross> hi NormalSubmarine
- [10:25] <+NormalSubmarine> hi Ross
- [10:26] <+Ross> what's new with you
- [10:26] <+NormalSubmarine> having coffee
- [10:28] <+layla-> hi sub
- [10:28] <+NormalSubmarine> hi layla-
- [10:30] <+Ross> layla, why do muslims observe fridays to/for
- [10:30] <+layla-> jumah + kutbah
- [10:31] <+NormalSubmarine> layla- why muslim become violent after friday prayer?
- [10:31] <+layla-> kutbah?
- [10:31] <+Ross> speaking a foreign language to ppl who do not understand your language is gibberish to them
- [10:31] <+layla-> most will.sleep during kutbah. lol
- [10:32] <+layla-> here i.mean
- [10:32] <+layla-> my son told.me.there is one masjid he went.the kutbah was realky good
- [10:33] <+layla-> bcoz the imam talked about science n.it caught his attention
- [10:34] <+layla-> it depends on.the kutbah
- [10:34] <@barabbas`> layla- You didn't answer earlier. Do you understand now why Bush isn't a terrorist?
- [10:34] <+NormalSubmarine> lol imam talking abt science is miracle indeed
- [10:34] <+layla-> either it cld fiery one up or put one to sleep. lol
- [10:34] <@barabbas`> what is a kutbah? Is that a bamb factory? I mean, science and muslims one has to wonder.
- [10:35] <+layla-> move on barabbas
- [10:35] <+Ross> kutbah is call to prayer, i think
- [10:35] <+Toph> barabbas`,,, that was rather rude
- [10:35] <+layla-> nope
- [10:35] <+Ross> loud speakers blarring the call
- [10:35] <@barabbas`> layla-: No, I am not going to move on. From what I see, you are talking about buiding bombs. If you can't speak English then we are all open to our own interpretations.
- [10:37] <@barabbas`> layla- I hope you are beginning to see why using a foreign language is rude and can lead to a false understanding.
- [10:38] <+layla-> false understanding comes from.the heart
- [10:38] <+Toph> to most of the Muslim world and much of the western world, Bush would be considered a terrorist if he wasn't American
- [10:38] <+layla-> the heart cant receive any message
- [10:38] <@barabbas`> Ross Well, earlier layla- was talking about terrorists. Then I come back and she is talking about science and Muslims and using a few arabic words that I don't understand. So, given what I do understand, and the context of the conversation, bomb building makes sense.
- [10:39] <+Ross> Jehavoh gave the eveing and morning worship service to ancient israel .... mohamed calls to 5 times a day
- [10:39] <+layla-> how would u know its arabic barabbas
- [10:39] <@barabbas`> layla-: Not in this case. Had you used the English terms that I am familiar with, I would understand. Instead you use foreign terms for certain words. This leaves it all open to me having to make my own connections.
- [10:39] <+Raven`X> But Bush wasn't a terrorist. He was the head of state. The President of a internationally recognised country.
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- [10:40] <+Ross> speaking a foreign language to ppl who do not understand you language is gibberish to those whom you speak
- [10:40] <+Toph> Raven`X,,, yes, but some would argue, he was President of the world's #1 terrorist state
- [10:40] <+layla-> we use the word.kutbah
- [10:40] <+Raven`X> Some would be wrong Toph.
- [10:40] <@barabbas`> layla-; because you have said so, you call it the language of heaven and I know Muslims believe arabic to be that language. See, I am really good at making the right connection if given enough information. However, when the context was terrorists and Muslims and you use foreign words, then the logical connection it to bomb building.
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- [10:40] <+layla-> its a heavenly language. maybe u can learn it too
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- [10:40] <+Raven`X> Some would be wrong Toph.
- [10:40] <@barabbas`> layla-; because you have said so, you call it the language of heaven and I know Muslims believe arabic to be that language. See, I am really good at making the right connection if given enough information. However, when the context was terrorists and Muslims and you use foreign words, then the logical connection it to bomb building.
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- [10:40] <+layla-> its a heavenly language. maybe u can learn it too
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- [10:40] <+Toph> Raven`X,,, I disagree
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- [10:41] <+Raven`X> Ah, well that is your right.
- [10:41] <+Raven`X> Doesn't make you right though.
- [10:41] <@barabbas`> layla-: I have no intention of learning it. The fact is YOU know English, yet you chose to be rude and use arabic here. Well, when you are missunderstood, don't blame me or others. It is because of your rudeness that missunderstandings are happening.
- [10:42] <@barabbas`> layla- my question is, why do you chose to be so rude?
- [10:42] <+layla-> we call it kutbah barabbas
- [10:42] <@barabbas`> layla- is being rude something all Muslims do? Is this a teaching of Muhammad?
- [10:42] <+Raven`X> What do you call kutbah?
- [10:42] <+Toph> barabbas`,,, the problem comes in with you by default associating a Muslim mosque with bombs
- [10:42] <+Ross> lol that's a new ... arabic the language of heaven
- [10:43] <@barabbas`> I don't know what you are calling kutbah. What is the ENGLISH equivalent. For me, it could be pipe bomb.
- [10:43] <+layla-> lol ross
- [10:43] <+layla-> it is
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- [10:43] <+Ross> rome says latin is the language of heaven, the jew says hebrew .... lol
- [10:43] <+Raven`X> I say it's Klingion!
- [10:44] <+Raven`X> Klingon rather.
- [10:44] <+Ross> Romulan
- [10:44] <@barabbas`> Toph No, it doesn't. see, the last conversation we had was about terrorists. Now, couple science, muslims and mosque with some foreign words and why wouldn't bombs etc be part of the context of terrorist, muslims and mosques?
- [10:45] <+Ross> maybe we'll be connected like the borg
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- [10:45] <+Toph> barabbas`,,, i think that is a stretch
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- [10:45] <@barabbas`> Toph: So, you think it is a stretch because you are no aware of the context and are making your assessment on your own bias. I get that.
- [10:45] <+layla-> when u visit singapore u might want to go.to.the mosque near NUS. the kutbah is educational.where the imam talks about quran and science
- [10:45] <+Ross> i see islam leading ppl to their death not life
- [10:46] <+Toph> barabbas`,,, well, that is my opinion,,, we are too eager to associate Muslims with terror and violence,, but I have to run,,, breakfast
- [10:46] <@barabbas`> layla- So the bomb building section in the mosque at Singapore is interesting? I mean, so far I have NO IDEA WHAT A KUTBAH IS.
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- [10:47] <+Ross> lol
- [10:47] <+layla-> kutbah is a speech.before the friday prayers
- [10:47] <@barabbas`> layla- I didn't know the Quran tells us how to build bombs and kill innocents... well I do know it tells the Muslim to kill innocent people.
- [10:47] <+layla-> Ittaqullah barabbas
- [10:47] <+Ross> so there is a sermon at friday's noon prayer
- [10:47] <@barabbas`> layla- Why didn't you say that before? So now the insult. I am not Ittaqullah, whatever that means.
- [10:48] <+Ross> all this gives layla a chance to preach islam
- [10:48] <@barabbas`> Ross No there is a speech, Given her propensity for rudeness, I imagine the speech is a lecture on bomb building or how to be dissruptive in society. How to be rude to you neighbors etc.
- [10:49] <+layla-> maybe but the kutbah here are monitored
- [10:49] <@barabbas`> Ross She may think she is preaching Islam, but no one understands what she is saying. I think she is using this social media like those two Islamic terrorists In San Bernadino.
- [10:49] <+Ross> its all possible, they gotta do their plaining in secret societies
- [10:50] <+Ross> my appologies ... but the quran reads as non-sense to me
- [10:51] <@barabbas`> layla-; Sounds like they should be monitored. According to you and what I can glean out of your conflations of languages, the Kutbah is a speech about bombing innocent people. It is given before the prayer for success in their terrorist activities.
- [10:51] <+layla-> the understanding comes from Allah.
- [10:47] <+layla-> Ittaqullah barabbas
- [10:47] <+Ross> so there is a sermon at friday's noon prayer
- [10:47] <@barabbas`> layla- Why didn't you say that before? So now the insult. I am not Ittaqullah, whatever that means.
- [10:48] <+Ross> all this gives layla a chance to preach islam
- [10:48] <@barabbas`> Ross No there is a speech, Given her propensity for rudeness, I imagine the speech is a lecture on bomb building or how to be dissruptive in society. How to be rude to you neighbors etc.
- [10:49] <+layla-> maybe but the kutbah here are monitored
- [10:49] <@barabbas`> Ross She may think she is preaching Islam, but no one understands what she is saying. I think she is using this social media like those two Islamic terrorists In San Bernadino.
- [10:49] <+Ross> its all possible, they gotta do their plaining in secret societies
- [10:50] <+Ross> my appologies ... but the quran reads as non-sense to me
- [10:51] <@barabbas`> layla-; Sounds like they should be monitored. According to you and what I can glean out of your conflations of languages, the Kutbah is a speech about bombing innocent people. It is given before the prayer for success in their terrorist activities.
- [10:51] <+layla-> the understanding comes from Allah
- [10:51] <+Ross> i think if there was a message from God to mohamed, the message would transalate with no problems to all of the world as the gospel does
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- [10:52] <@barabbas`> layla- No the understanding comes from the person doing the speaking. Apparently you don't want anyone to understand. Is that how Islam works? You don't want anyone to understand? I mean, I can understand this considering how Muslim women are kept out of schools and away from education.
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- [10:53] <+layla-> hi enigma
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- [10:54] <@barabbas`> layla- You still haven't answered me. Why do you want to be so rude? What don't you want us to understand what you are saying?
- [10:54] <+layla-> barabbas
- [10:55] <@barabbas`> layla- :Please answer my question, and if you insult me again with some foreign phrase I don't understand you will be silenced.
- [10:55] <+layla-> maybe u can say this prayer : rabbi zidnii ilman warzuqnii fahman
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- [10:56] <@barabbas`> layla- That is the epitome of insults. Asking me to pray to a false god.
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- [10:57] <@barabbas`> There cannot be a free exchange of ideas if one side of the conversation refuses to clarify what they are saying.
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