[22:09:47] <Calclavia> IceWolf: YAY for v11 finally
[22:09:54] <Calclavia> IceWolf: We should push more dev builds :P
[22:10:08] <mrgreaper|ingame> v11 of what?
[22:13:05] <Calclavia> Voltz mod pack
[22:13:11] <Calclavia> mrgreaper|ingame: Finally for all servers to update hehe
[22:13:33] <mrgreaper|ingame> i dont use voltz thats tecnic
[22:13:42] -*- mrgreaper|ingame shudder
[22:13:44] <Calclavia> mrgreaper|ingame: Suit yourself :P Technic one is always more updated
[22:13:59] <Calclavia> Because the leader of technic, IceWolf actually comes talk to us and support us.
[22:13:59] <mrgreaper|ingame> i use my own modpack
[22:14:12] <Calclavia> While the FTB guys have to be shouted at just to do a small update =_=
[22:14:19] <Calclavia> and also asked me to pay them =_=
[22:14:24] <mrgreaper|ingame> ?
[22:14:26] <Greenphlem> Seriously?
[22:14:34] <Greenphlem> For what?
[22:14:35] <Calclavia> For promotion that is
[22:14:47] <mrgreaper|ingame> you are paying them
[22:14:51] <Calclavia> nope
[22:14:54] <mrgreaper|ingame> your letting them use your work
[22:14:57] <Calclavia> I refused the offer
[22:15:02] <Calclavia> "offer"
[22:15:14] <Greenphlem> Good lord, Thats... messed
[22:15:17] <Calclavia> Slow said I had to pay him to get him to advertise the UE pack
[22:15:27] <Calclavia> While Technic is advertising us for FREE
[22:15:28] <mrgreaper|ingame> no i mean by letting them use your work that is paying them more then they should ask for
[22:15:35] <IceWolf> Well that's kinda the point of the pack
[22:15:36] <Calclavia> You see why I like Technic more now right :P?
[22:15:43] <Calclavia> From an objective point of view
[22:15:47] <Greenphlem> You make the mods, he literaslly just has another repo host them
[22:15:48] <Greenphlem> oooo
[22:16:02] <Calclavia> Technic got us 1 million downloads, FTB got us 50k?
[22:16:12] <Calclavia> and with no donation page
[22:16:17] <Calclavia> no link back to our site
[22:16:19] <mrgreaper|ingame> hmmmm i have had so many viewers ask if im using technic then tell me i am when i have my own mod
[22:16:23] <Greenphlem> What's up with that
[22:16:26] <mrgreaper|ingame> setup that its coloured me
[22:16:34] <Calclavia> not even credits for the modders on the page, only the mods used
[22:16:39] <Greenphlem> why can''t they get the donation page up?
[22:17:04] <Calclavia> Greenplhen: They will for the MAIN packs, but we UE modders are too "unimportant" to be cared for
[22:17:15] <Mattredsox> there never will be a UE donation page for them
[22:17:19] <Mattredsox> us*
[22:17:59] <Calclavia> mrgreaper|ingame: I know you prefer FTB over Technic, but I hope you understand why I like Technic more :)
[22:18:24] <mrgreaper|ingame> i recommand ftb but i prefer to make them myself
[22:18:41] <mrgreaper|ingame> as for your choice,,,well its that its your choice
[22:18:43] <IceWolf> Yeah, I make Tekkit and everything, but I actually play custom packs
[22:19:17] <Calclavia> mrgreaper|ingame: You can recommend FTB for the permissions and legit-ness, but not for the way they take care of third party modders
[22:19:30] <mrgreaper|ingame> true
[22:22:13] <Greenphlem> I used to hate tekkit, (sorry IceWolf ) but I actually have mad respect for them now, why are all the modders going towards FTB? So confussed
[22:23:10] <mrgreaper|ingame> i dont have to worry too much, my mod will never be in either lol
[22:23:11] <Calclavia> Greenplhen: One place UE is never going is FTB. Not until they treat us the same way Technic does
[22:23:39] <Mattredsox> what do you mean in FTB?
[22:23:52] <Greenphlem> I believe it, but why so many other people? Is it the circlejerk that forgecraft has created?
[22:24:03] <Calclavia> ^ As in, all the big modders (Forgecraft) supports FTB
[22:24:17] <Calclavia> FTB is kinda popular due to Direwolf and Forgecraft
[22:24:25] <mrgreaper|ingame> forgecraft is the reason i no longer stream
[22:24:26] <Greenphlem> True
[22:24:39] <mrgreaper|ingame> if your not on forgecraft you dont get viewers
[22:24:40] <Calclavia> IceWolf: Technic should make their own version of FC :P Get Yogscast to play with us XD
[22:24:48] <IceWolf> We've talked about it
[22:25:02] -*- Greenphlem eyes widen
[22:25:05] <IceWolf> We're working on finishing the new launcher first
[22:25:28] <Greenphlem> mrgreaper, for sure, it's hell streaming when slow is
[22:25:31] <IceWolf> then maybe we'll get streaming intigrated into the site and look into providing more direct content for people
[22:25:33] <Calclavia> IceWolf: Yeah :D Get a FC for UE modders
[22:25:57] <Calclavia> It seems that the FC people currently are not very KEEN on letting us join FC
[22:26:01] <Calclavia> but I'm not sure about that
[22:26:17] <Calclavia> So, if partnering with other Youtubers can achieve the same effect
[22:26:19] <Calclavia> it'll be great
[22:26:34] -*- Greenphlem Cough
[22:26:41] <Greenphlem> I kid
[22:28:21] <IceWolf> Greenphlem: No offense taken, we were really detached from the community for a long time
[22:28:37] <IceWolf> So a lot of really negative things were going around and we didn't really care to say otherwise
[22:29:45] <IceWolf> That combined with the really unfortunate blow up with Sengir set a bad tone for a while
[22:30:39] <Greenphlem> IceWolf, I really love that you guys have mantained maturity and didnt make it a huge drama fest, it was benifitial for the community as a whole

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<slowpoke> heya Mattred, when he gets on. tell calclavia that we will be removing your pack from the FTB launcher in the next 24 hours. and just for his reference 'again' the comment about charging to promote his pack was a joke as was made totally clear at the time. I was referring to the fact that we dont promote 3rd party packs that was your job to promote it, and as to the number of
<slowpoke> updates, if calclavia didnt fuck up the pack every time. hence why we had said that we were only taking packs off cammygames in future.