#obama is an unhealthy community

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<Bigguns> It looks like Ben Carson was correct.
<Bigguns> immigrant: "a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country."
<Bigguns> involuntary: "done without will or conscious control."
<fieryUSA> no.  they were slaves.  plain and simple.  cut and dry.
<fieryUSA> not 'involuntary immigrants'.
<Bigguns> Can you point out the error in the above construction?
<Bigguns> Also, one thing can have multiple labels.
<Bigguns> Those people would be slaves, and you could also classify them as involuntary immigrants.
<Bigguns> Finally, phrases like "plain and simple" and "cut and dry" are content-free taboo responses.
<Bigguns> I am a philosopher. If you can't hang at that level, signal and I'll leave you to your outrage.
<fieryUSA> "That’s what America is about. A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder, for less."  calling them fucking "immigrants" is an insult.  THEY WERE SLAVES.
<Bigguns> It may be an insult.
<Bigguns> Do you think it's false?
<Bigguns> We're currently discussing the truth-value of the claim, not its social reception.
<Bigguns> I am willing to discuss that with you next.
<fieryUSA> in this dictionary verbage?  no.  in context?  FUCK YES.
<Bigguns> What?
<Bigguns> You seem to be in the midst of a taboo response.
<Bigguns> I encourage you to remember the foundations of Western empiricism and continue.
<Bigguns> Probably, most things have an infinite number of labels.
<Bigguns> A label is a boundary or probability cutoff in a distribution, given a schema.
<fieryUSA> you are an involuntary asshole.  don't feel bad.  its not your fault.  you were just forced into being one.
<Bigguns> You can probably construct an infinite number of schema.
<Bigguns> You see how that's a fallacy, right.
<Bigguns> So, do you think his claim is false?
<fieryUSA> the fucking fallacy, is in calling SLAVES "immigrants", d-bag.
<Bigguns> Fallacy.
<Bigguns> Are you unable to proceed?
<Melmoth> Bigguns: stop bullshitting
<Bigguns> I promise to not lose my cool. It's part of the social contract.
<Melmoth> Bigguns: try to make sense, please.
<fieryUSA> its an attempt to homogenize slavery.
<Bigguns> What do you mean by homogenize?
<fieryUSA> what do you mean not knowing what i mean by homogenize?
<Bigguns> I don't think that's quite the right word.
<Bigguns> Normalize?
<Melmoth> probably you meant
<Melmoth> yes
<Melmoth> normalize
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