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Digital
... Man, I just... shake my head.

Lady
If he wants to still unban you, I'll understand completely.

Lady
Again. I left a message, left logs.

Digital
You banned me for speaking to you, specifically.

Lady
It's not wrong if I'm also protecting other people in the room from being harassed for using font styles.

Lady
It also isn't personal. If he unbans you, I'm not going to get mad. But I left a heads up and copies of our chat tonight so he can decide.

Lady
... I'm not going to have you harass people for using something fun.

Digital
You know that's completely wrong, especially in Kamen's eyes. I've never caused a room disturbance.

Digital
... Did you just ban me for something personal, Lady?

Digital
You're incredibly welcome.

Lady
Good. And thank you for ruining my mood.

Digital
Good night.

Digital
I'm dropping this.

Digital
You're being fussed at someone who has the coding skills to have discovered it themselves before anyone else and understands what is capable far better than you do.

Lady
But I'm not going to because I am polite.

Lady
Even make it give people epilepsy.

Lady
You're making a fuss to someone who has the coding skills TO make it removed if she wanted to.

Lady
Exactly.

Digital
Dav isn't making a fuss about it because we both understand that it's pointless. He announces it, that day or the next day someone does something stupid and it's removed.

Lady
Everyone moves on with their life and enjoys themselves still.

Lady
If it gets removed, OHWELL.

Lady
It's not selfish when you're the only one making a fuss about it when Dav should be the one making the overall call.

Lady
It's not selfish when I see other people in other rooms using it.

Digital
That's... incredibly selfish.

Lady
The only things I won't be able to do anymore is make faces with the >

Digital
So you really don't care if they're removed for everyone?

Lady
I have fades.

Lady
I'm not going to have issues with it 8D

Digital
When the tags get removed, we'll have a chat about it.

Digital
Go ahead and do it.

Digital
We'll see.

Digital
I'm not saying which ones because you'll only harass them.

Lady
People are already using it in main rooms on the site.

Lady
Again.

Lady
No one even asks me how to do it. I just do magic once in a blue moon.

Digital
You don't think it's not difficult for me not to use it? It's incredibly difficult, but I stay away from doing it.

Lady
I don't do it often enough to make A ROUSE ABOUT IT.

Digital
You really don't care about the tags being removed from everyone because you, specifically, want to have fun with it in public?

Lady
The one time I DO IT, YOU HAVE TO GET ON MY ASS.

Lady
It's already being USED in other rooms on the site.

Lady
I'm having a nice time fiddling with a font.

Digital
When he sees that it's being used often in public, he's going to just remove them.

Lady
You're thinking I reallycare.

Digital
You won't have a choice.

Lady
..

Lady
And people seriously aren't that stupid.

Digital
I'm telling you, he's going to remove the tags.

Lady
The only time I'd agree to it being removed if people do start blacking out the chat rooms.

Digital
Please.

Digital
Please, please don't.

Lady
And epople are going to use it in public.

Digital
We agreed that if it didn't become something people used in public, the tags could stay.

Lady
People won't NOTICE it if people like you DON'T MAKE A FUSS ABOUT IT.

Digital
He didn't remove it because I specifically asked him not to.

Lady
IF DAV DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE TO USE THAT, HE CAN EITHER REMOVE IT OR NOT MAKE A ROUSE OUT OF IT.

Digital
So it was removed!

Digital
People ALREADY ABUSED THE BREAK COMMAND.

Digital
They ALREADY abused it.

Lady
NOW STOP TELLING ME WHAT I CAN AND CAN'T DO.

Digital
IT WAS ALREADY DONE.

Lady
STUPID

Lady
FUCKING

Lady
THAT

Lady
ARNE'T

Lady
PEOPLE

Lady
Dude.

Lady
...

Digital
The same day.

Lady
You're ruining a perfectly good mood for me.

Digital
Because the same day someone discovered it, it was abused to space out an entire chat.

Lady
Digi.

Digital
Why's there no 'br' command?

Digital
That's why it's still possible.

Lady
That's the thing. People won't abuse that type of thing.

Digital
When I discovered it could be done using other tags, we chatted about it and I asked him if he could stay off from removing italics and etc.

Lady
Like Dav had once before on the old layout before he took THAT away.

Digital
It couldn't be done, so he removed it entirely.

Digital
Dav tried to modify it to remove use of specific things like changing position and etc.

Lady
It gives some diversity to fonts.

Digital
No.

Digital
I said "Hey, this is kinda nifty."

Lady
And you only think about the negative side of it.

Lady
No one knew it was there.

Digital
No, because I told him what could be done. Period.

Digital
Can you tell me why it's gone?

Lady
Because you cried wolf, mutt.

Digital
On the first day that the site changed, people could make links using a href.

Digital
Then why don't we have a href?

Lady
I know this, you know this. But people aren't that PETTY to take it that far.

Lady
He can also send a site-wide message and explain it himself too.

Digital
It's not just things you can do with your text, people can black out entire chat or PM windows.

Digital
Then send him an RPC mail or something.

Lady
ARE NOT DAV.

Lady
YOU.

Lady
So I can do nice little things with my text. Woope-do.

Digital
Okay, then please just wait and speak to Dav first. That's all I ask.

Lady
It's called I have a life.

Lady
I'm never around when he's on.

Lady
No, I do believe you. But I want him to tell me himself.

Digital
Please. Please just wait for that long.

Digital
Just wait to do it in public until you talk to Dav. Ask him yourself if it's okay to use in rooms and spread around.

Digital
If you don't believe me, ask him.

Digital
I'm trying to pass on what he told me himself.

Lady
I don't care. You're not Dav.

Digital
Dav has already told me.

Lady
And you're not Dav.

Lady
...

Lady
I don't do it often enough, and then people won't take it that far. You really over complicate something that would be neat and fun. :\

Digital
Exactly, which is why I'm asking you not to use it in public. The less people who know, the better.

Lady
I didn't even know about it until someone showed it to me on an alt.

Digital
Lady, it's not just about my opinion.

Digital
Yes, I'm one of those few. It's the reason I found it first.

Lady
Not often enough to be of your concern.

Digital
How long have you been doing the style trick, Lady?

Lady
There's an actual few who really know how to code other than petty code edits here and there.

Digital
Most people don't think that far.

Lady
Anyone who codes can already do stuff like that. Most of the site. DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO CODE.

Digital
Yes.

Lady
Anyone with a coding mind already knows about it.

Lady
...

Lady
No one knew it was there because of you.

Digital
You haven't seen anyone do it because I'm one of very few people who know.

Digital
He already disabled a href.

Lady
I have yet still to see someone pull that off in any of the rooms I've been in.

Digital
I'm trying to tell you that I spoke to Dav about this directly the day that I discovered it.

Lady
He can care. But it's how people use it.

Lady
I sure as hell don't. I'm content doing my lovely little surprises here and there.

Digital
Dav cares.

Digital
People care. Believe me.

Lady
It's fun and people WON'T abuse it. Not everyone has that petty mentality.

Lady
I really don't think people honestly car.e

Lady
Digital

Digital
Italics, bold, underline -- all three of them will go.

Lady
...

Lady
That's hackers.

Digital
I'm trying to tell you. If this gets out, Dav is going to disable italics and bold.

Lady
You honest-to-god overestimate people. Most of us have respect enough to not do it.

Digital
I have seen people hack others' accounts and delete their usernames.

Lady
No they aren't.

Lady
And?

Digital
Yes, people are.

Lady
... You really overestimate a lot of the site.

Digital
Lady, a person could block out an entire chat like this.

Lady
But people are seriously not stupid enough to do it.

Digital
What I'm trying to tell you is that there are some very bad things that can be done.

Lady
I LIKE IT.

Lady
this is really cool.

Lady
no.

Digital
Look at the bottom of your window.

Lady
OH COOL.

Lady
... How is that damn dangerous?

Digital
This is pretty damn dangerous.

Digital
This is pretty damn dangerous.

Lady
And people have more respect than that.

Lady
I don't see how other than making some people lag out because of how big one can make the fonts.

Digital
One moment.

Digital
I'm going to show you.

Lady
.... How can it be 'too dangerous'.

Digital
It's not a donation perk because it's too dangerous.

Lady
People WOULD donate to do fancy things with their fonts like the gradients.

Lady
Well, that's to Dav to decide or make it another donation perk.

Lady
Uh-huh.

Digital
We tried.

Digital
The only thing he can do is remove access to the html tags themselves.

Digital
There is no way he can restrict the use of the style tag.

Digital
I'm trying to tell you that I've known about editing the italics, bold and etc with a style tag for months. I discussed it with Dav months ago.

Digital
He's not making a statement because that would only attract trolls to it.

Lady
I have multiple alts and I won't give them out. Why?

Lady
That's not for you to speak of.

Lady
He has to make a site-wide statement himself.

Digital
[ Do you have an alt you can sign onto?

Digital
[ Dav has already told me specifically about it, which is what I'm passing it on.

Lady
You also don't own the website. Dav has to make a statement about it himself for people to not really care. And honestly I like it. It gives people more diversity for the chat. The only thing I would think would be a good thing to limit would be how big the font size can go.

Digital
[ Only I have known about it since day 1. If anyone else knows, they've stayed away from doing it in rooms.

Digital
[ People haven't known about it since day 1.

Lady
And I'm not going to stop. :\ Not only can you not stop something that people already knew about since day one as you said...

Lady
It already has.

Digital
[ I'm asking you not to do it in main because if someone sees it who recognizes it for what it is, it could quickly grow out of control.

Digital
[ Because I also quickly experimented and discovered how far things could go.

Digital
[ When I discovered it could be used with i and the other things, I spoke to Dav and said I'd do what I could to limit how far it reached in exchange for his not disabling italics, bold, etc.

Lady
Why do something to ruin the good intentioned fun?

Digital
[ Which is why we no longer have access to it.

Lady
By the way, don't tell me what I can and can't do. I barely do it as it is.

Digital
[ I found it day 1 and told Dav. I originally discovered it with the a href tag --

Lady
-Sweatdrops.-

Lady
...

Digital
[ I've known since a day after the chat was changed over back before the summer.

Digital
[ I know how to do it, hun.

Lady
I tried doing plain font style and that doesn't work.

Lady
It's a style tag.

Digital
I know how to make a profile, hun. x.x; I've made a million. Did you use a style tag or did you use something else?

Lady
It's basically the same building blocks as making a profile.

Lady
... How do you make a profile is a better question there isn't it?

Digital
[ What did you do, specifically?

Lady
Dav did that on purpose. He can easily disable anything other than this

Lady
I actually... didn't hack it.

Lady
...

Digital
[ There are some very, very nasty things that can be done using that trick.

Digital
[ Please do not do that in main.

Digital
[ No, I know what you did. You hacked it using a style tag, yes?

Lady
Show what?

Lady
I DID MAGIC.

Digital
[ Don't show that to anyone plz.

Digital
[ Aw jeez. x.x;

Digital
[

Digital
[ Whaddidjado?