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- All right, let's chop and load!
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- Good evening now, Officer.
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- Y'all need my license
- or anything I got?
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- 00:02:15,243 --> 00:02:17,470
- No, that's not necessary.
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- Some sharp-looking truck you got.
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- Thank you.
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- Those rims look like
- they cost you a pretty penny.
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- Who you've been working for?
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- No, sir. I don't work for nobody.
- I got my own pulpin' business.
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- I clear all these trees around here.
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- 00:02:35,106 --> 00:02:37,761
- So ain't got no boss
- to check in with, huh?
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- That must be pretty nice.
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- Free to roam up down the road
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- wherever you want to,
- whenever you want to in this fancy truck?
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- Not if my wife got somethin'
- to say about it.
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- 00:02:54,127 --> 00:02:56,924
- I heard that ain't stopped you
- before though.
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- Ain't that right, Johnny D?
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- 00:03:09,983 --> 00:03:12,299
- You wanna make a break for it?
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- No, sir, I don't wanna do--
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- 'Cause after what you've done,
- I'm looking for any excuse
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- 00:03:18,295 --> 00:03:21,472
- to get this over with
- right here right now.
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- Sir, I ain't did nothing,
- and I think y'all got a wrong person in.
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- Y'all got me confused
- with somebody, and I think--
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- I got you confused with nobody!
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- I don't have anything
- to do with this!
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- <i>We all know Monroeville
- as the peaceful town</i>
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- 00:03:39,958 --> 00:03:42,551
- <i>where Harper Lee
- wrote To Kill A Mockingbird.</i>
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- 00:03:42,675 --> 00:03:46,376
- <i>But last year, that peace
- was shattered by a brutal crime.</i>
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- 00:03:46,517 --> 00:03:47,847
- <i>On the 1st of November,</i>
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- <i>18-year-old Ronda Morrison
- was found dead at Jackson Cleaners.</i>
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- 00:03:51,860 --> 00:03:55,372
- <i>Morrison had been strangled
- and shot by Walter McMillian,</i>
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- 00:03:55,497 --> 00:03:57,903
- <i>known locally as 'Johnny D.'</i>
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- 00:03:58,042 --> 00:04:01,903
- <i>McMillian was convicted by a jury
- who recommended a life sentence.</i>
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- 00:04:02,149 --> 00:04:06,678
- <i>But today, Judge Robert E. Lee Key
- overrode their decision</i>
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- 00:04:06,845 --> 00:04:09,510
- <i>and sentenced McMillian to death.</i>
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- 00:04:09,662 --> 00:04:13,015
- <i>We promised the community
- that we would find him, and we did.</i>
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- 00:04:13,397 --> 00:04:18,221
- <i>You commit a crime like this in my town,
- one way or another, you gonna pay for it.</i>
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- 00:04:18,441 --> 00:04:22,488
- <i>As McMillian awaits execution
- at Holman Correctional Facility,</i>
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- <i>a grieving community can take
- some solace in knowing that today,</i>
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- 00:04:26,816 --> 00:04:29,835
- <i>justice has finally been served.</i>
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- Thank you.
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- You got one hour.
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- Hi, Mr. Davis. I'm Bryan.
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- Henry.
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- I'm...
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- The Southern Prisoners Defense Committee,
- they sent me here to tell you that
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- they don't have a lawyer for you yet,
- but they hope to soon.
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- You not a lawyer?
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- No... I'm still in school.
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- Just interning here for the summer.
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- So, you can't tell me nothin'
- about my case?
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- I was supposed to tell you that...
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- That you're not at risk of execution
- any time within the next year.
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- Can you say that again?
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- That you're not at risk of execution
- any time within the next year.
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- That's the best news
- that I've heard in a long time.
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- 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,616
- I didn't want my wife with kids
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- showin' up if I had
- an execution date comin'.
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- 00:06:42,899 --> 00:06:45,157
- Now they can come visit.
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- 00:06:46,770 --> 00:06:50,165
- Thank you. Thank you.
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- 00:06:54,668 --> 00:06:59,026
- Serious, my ma made me join
- our church choir when I was like four.
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- 00:06:59,177 --> 00:07:01,425
- I sang lead baritone
- all through high school.
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- I played piano at my church growing up.
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- A.M.E.? God is good...
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- 00:07:05,358 --> 00:07:07,877
- All the time. All the time.
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- A couple of A.M.E. choirboys
- hangin' on death row.
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- 00:07:12,689 --> 00:07:15,345
- - My mom would gonna trip.
- - Man, that's crazy.
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- What school are you going to?
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- I'm at Harvard.
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- Seriously? You goin' to Harvard?
- That's white-boy-status, bro.
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- What the hell you doin'
- slummin' it in here for?
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- I'm in law school
- 'cause I just want to help people.
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- Just haven't figure out
- the best way to do that yet.
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- Honestly, this internship
- has been the best experience so far.
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- Workin' on death row
- has been your best experience?
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- You need to get out more, bro.
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- You should've been done
- two hours ago.
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- I'm sorry. I didn't realize--
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- You're supposed to watch the clock.
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- Sir, calm down!
- He didn't do anything!
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- - You need to shut your mouth!
- - It's okay, Bryan.
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- Don't worry about me.
- You just come back.
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- 00:08:01,838 --> 00:08:07,686
- <i>♪ I'm pressing on, the upward way ♪</i>
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- 00:08:08,202 --> 00:08:13,330
- <i>♪ New heights I'm gaining, every day ♪</i>
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- 00:08:14,304 --> 00:08:20,551
- <i>♪ Still praying as,
- I'm onward bound ♪</i>
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- 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:27,057
- <i>♪ Lord, plant my feet
- on higher ground ♪</i>
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- Mom's still mad at you.
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- For what?
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- I don't know, maybe for rejecting
- all those job offers
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- 00:08:47,869 --> 00:08:49,729
- so you can be poor in Alabama.
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- And Howie telling her about
- that lynching in Mobile didn't help.
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- What?
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- - I said it happened seven years ago.
- - Yeah, that made it better.
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- You two were supposed
- to be on my side.
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- Pop, how we looking up there?
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- Just added three quarts of water,
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- 00:09:01,316 --> 00:09:03,445
- but you should check again
- when you get there.
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- All right. Thanks.
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- 00:09:05,045 --> 00:09:07,134
- You talk to your mom yet?
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- 00:09:13,161 --> 00:09:15,823
- What did those leaves do to you?
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- 00:09:18,322 --> 00:09:20,749
- You not gonna say bye to your son?
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- 00:09:21,750 --> 00:09:24,764
- I know you got your law degree now,
- and you think you're grown,
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- 00:09:24,764 --> 00:09:26,741
- but you're still my child.
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- And I'm the one that has to deal
- with your funeral arrangements
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- if you get killed down there.
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- - Come on, Mom--
- - You think this is funny?
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- 00:09:34,258 --> 00:09:36,582
- 'Cause if you can't see the danger
- in what you're doing,
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- 00:09:36,582 --> 00:09:39,257
- you need to ask Harvard
- for your money back.
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- 00:09:39,379 --> 00:09:41,816
- You used to be smarter than that.
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- 00:09:57,338 --> 00:09:59,622
- The first time I visited death row,
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- 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,245
- I wasn't expecting to meet
- somebody the same age as me.
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- 00:10:03,839 --> 00:10:08,361
- Grew up on the same music,
- from a neighborhood just like ours.
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- 00:10:11,973 --> 00:10:14,370
- It could've been me, mama.
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- 00:10:16,196 --> 00:10:19,686
- I don't wanna move far away
- from you. I love you.
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- 00:10:20,512 --> 00:10:24,659
- But you always taught me to fight
- for the people who need the help the most.
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- 00:10:28,007 --> 00:10:30,553
- I am very proud of you, son.
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- 00:10:32,337 --> 00:10:35,129
- I know your heart's
- in the right place.
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- 00:10:35,831 --> 00:10:38,160
- But it's not that simple.
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- 00:10:38,529 --> 00:10:42,061
- What you're doing is gonna make
- a lot of people upset.
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- You better be careful.
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- I will.
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- 00:10:52,088 --> 00:10:54,303
- I promise.
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- 00:10:57,728 --> 00:10:59,501
- Here she comes.
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- 00:11:49,571 --> 00:11:51,209
- You gotta be kiddin' me!
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- 00:11:51,209 --> 00:11:53,940
- We had an agreement
- to rent this space for two years.
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- 00:11:54,166 --> 00:11:55,412
- You said it was a done deal.
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- 00:11:55,412 --> 00:11:57,319
- That was before I knew
- what you were doing here.
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- 00:11:57,319 --> 00:12:00,581
- We are giving poor people
- their constitutional right to counsel, Bill!
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- 00:12:00,721 --> 00:12:03,350
- Do you mind explaining to my son
- what you think is so wrong with that?
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- 00:12:03,567 --> 00:12:06,160
- - Eva, what's up?
- - Bryan, thank God.
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- 00:12:06,274 --> 00:12:09,596
- This is the Executive Director
- of our organization.
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- 00:12:09,718 --> 00:12:12,161
- He just got here, he was expecting
- to move into the office
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- 00:12:12,308 --> 00:12:13,437
- that you promised us.
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- 00:12:13,718 --> 00:12:15,506
- You said you were the director.
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- 00:12:15,621 --> 00:12:17,292
- Director of operations.
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- 00:12:17,424 --> 00:12:20,282
- And you're making me look very bad
- in front of my boss right now.
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- 00:12:20,282 --> 00:12:24,536
- She said you were a lawyer, but nobody
- told me it was for murderers on death row.
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- 00:12:24,667 --> 00:12:26,999
- We're providing legal services
- to people who need help.
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- 00:12:26,999 --> 00:12:28,996
- And you'll have to do it someplace else,
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- 00:12:29,096 --> 00:12:31,625
- 'cause I can't have people
- like that around here.
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- 00:12:31,749 --> 00:12:34,222
- Not everyone is in there
- for a good reason, sir.
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- Y'all have a good day now.
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- What a piece of shit.
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- 00:12:41,697 --> 00:12:44,921
- I'm so sorry, this is not
- how I wanted to welcome you here.
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- 00:12:45,202 --> 00:12:48,582
- I will find us an office, I promise you I will.
- I just gotta change my tactics.
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- 00:12:48,582 --> 00:12:50,578
- It'll be fine, we can work from anywhere.
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- 00:12:50,686 --> 00:12:53,659
- Yeah, we'll just have Chris clean up
- his toys in the living room, right Chris?
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- 00:12:53,659 --> 00:12:55,909
- - Oh, yeah?
- - I'll think about it.
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- 00:12:56,954 --> 00:12:59,382
- - I'm sorry for cussing, baby.
- - It's okay.
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- 00:13:00,019 --> 00:13:01,594
- He was a piece of shit, though.
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- 00:13:03,255 --> 00:13:06,332
- I was a psychology major
- writing a paper on capital punishment
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- 00:13:06,464 --> 00:13:09,522
- when I met my first
- death row inmate, Wayne Ritter.
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- 00:13:10,034 --> 00:13:12,765
- He and his friend robbed
- a pawnshop in Mobile.
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- 00:13:12,992 --> 00:13:16,116
- His friend shot the owner
- and they both got death.
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- 00:13:16,965 --> 00:13:19,571
- Is he the reason
- why you got into this?
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- 00:13:19,709 --> 00:13:22,962
- His attorney was openly in favor
- of the death penalty.
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- 00:13:23,456 --> 00:13:26,447
- He thought mad dogs ought to die.
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- 00:13:26,653 --> 00:13:30,056
- A lot of folks on the row either had
- shitty representation or none at all.
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- 00:13:30,056 --> 00:13:33,294
- So, I just started calling every law firm
- in the Yellow Pages,
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- 00:13:33,294 --> 00:13:35,615
- just trying to find anybody
- that could help.
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- 00:13:35,758 --> 00:13:38,928
- I was averaging 20 rejections a day.
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- 00:13:39,259 --> 00:13:41,430
- She was pretty stressed out.
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- 00:13:41,430 --> 00:13:45,944
- I was just about to give up,
- when I got a call from a Harvard lawyer
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- 00:13:45,944 --> 00:13:48,981
- saying that he had just passed
- the Alabama Bar,
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- 00:13:49,099 --> 00:13:53,538
- and had federal funding to start
- a legal center for inmates on death row.
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- 00:13:54,105 --> 00:13:56,877
- I was in before he even
- offered me the job.
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- 00:13:57,266 --> 00:13:59,572
- And before you knew
- I couldn't pay you anything.
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- 00:13:59,822 --> 00:14:01,078
- What's that?
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- 00:14:01,202 --> 00:14:03,312
- Yeah, Dough doesn't know
- about that part yet.
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- 00:14:03,801 --> 00:14:05,069
- Sorry, honey.
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- 00:14:05,217 --> 00:14:07,476
- How is going, son?
- You seem tired.
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- 00:14:07,752 --> 00:14:09,636
- Okay, let's go brush your teeth.
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- 00:14:09,749 --> 00:14:11,634
- Excuse us.
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- 00:14:12,673 --> 00:14:14,958
- I'll make up the couch for you, Bryan.
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- 00:14:15,938 --> 00:14:18,353
- I'm excited about what you're doing.
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- 00:14:20,037 --> 00:14:21,835
- Me too.
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- 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,834
- I should be in the log.
- I'm scheduled to see six clients today.
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- 00:15:42,850 --> 00:15:45,311
- I ain't seen you before.
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- 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:48,220
- It's because I just moved here.
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- 00:15:50,143 --> 00:15:52,438
- You really a lawyer?
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- 00:15:53,706 --> 00:15:56,249
- Yes, I am.
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- 00:15:57,046 --> 00:15:58,825
- Gonna have to search you.
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- 00:15:58,961 --> 00:16:01,811
- Just go in that room there
- and take everything off.
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- 00:16:01,977 --> 00:16:04,943
- Attorneys aren't strip-searched
- for legal visits.
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- 00:16:05,057 --> 00:16:09,535
- You ain't gonna visit shit
- unless you get in that room and strip.
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- 00:16:10,371 --> 00:16:12,267
- Let's go.
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- 00:16:31,427 --> 00:16:33,646
- Pants and underwear.
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- 00:16:59,724 --> 00:17:02,005
- Bend over and spread.
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- 00:17:10,365 --> 00:17:12,291
- You're clear.
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- 00:17:44,118 --> 00:17:49,102
- I f-fought in Nam,
- First Cavalry Division.
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- 00:17:50,552 --> 00:17:54,154
- Saw a lot of f-friends die.
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- 00:17:56,916 --> 00:18:01,419
- Doctor said I g-got the PTSD.
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- 00:18:04,614 --> 00:18:07,454
- I did what they s-s-said I did.
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- 00:18:10,514 --> 00:18:13,548
- I put the bomb on her porch.
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- 00:18:15,821 --> 00:18:18,189
- I know it d-don't make sense,
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- 00:18:20,265 --> 00:18:23,807
- but I didn't mean to kill nobody.
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- 00:18:27,897 --> 00:18:32,968
- I think they gonna s-s-set
- my execution soon.
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- 00:18:33,704 --> 00:18:37,733
- Last lawyer said
- there ain't nothin' left to do.
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- There's always something
- that we can do.
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- Whatever you did,
- your life is still meaningful.
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- 00:18:47,629 --> 00:18:51,268
- And I'm gonna do everything possible
- to keep them from taking it.
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- 00:19:02,059 --> 00:19:04,182
- Tell me everything that happened.
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- 00:19:04,642 --> 00:19:07,006
- I was given a court-appointed lawyer,
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- 00:19:07,172 --> 00:19:09,375
- and he was pretty pitiful.
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- 00:19:09,509 --> 00:19:12,910
- Never really talked to me
- about setting up a defense.
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- 00:19:13,046 --> 00:19:15,584
- I probably met a dude for 30 times.
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- 00:19:16,862 --> 00:19:18,234
- Literally.
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- 00:19:18,388 --> 00:19:20,724
- He told me that it would be
- in my best interest
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- 00:19:20,836 --> 00:19:23,184
- to plead no contest
- to all of those charges.
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- 00:19:23,238 --> 00:19:27,437
- I plead not guilty, I said I didn't do it,
- I didn't have nothing to do with that.
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- 00:19:27,437 --> 00:19:31,304
- You're 20 right now, if you take this plea
- and you do the whole time
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- 00:19:31,304 --> 00:19:33,814
- you'll only be 45 when you get out.
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- 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,605
- In the middle of my trial,
- which only lasted 25 minutes till I out,
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- 00:19:38,751 --> 00:19:40,092
- which is unheard-of.
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- 00:19:40,244 --> 00:19:42,145
- He wouldn't let me take the stand,
- 217
- 00:19:42,260 --> 00:19:44,545
- So, I ended up firing him
- and deal with it.
- 218
- 00:19:44,667 --> 00:19:49,235
- The judge laughed at me and said
- rehabilitation was a 70-year-old joke.
- 219
- 00:19:49,392 --> 00:19:52,434
- My lawyer... He was there,
- but he wasn't there.
- 220
- 00:19:54,115 --> 00:19:56,408
- It was like I was by myself.
- 221
- 00:20:12,849 --> 00:20:15,881
- Last lawyer I had sat
- where you sit and say...
- 222
- 00:20:16,905 --> 00:20:20,631
- Johnny D, don't worry about nothin',
- everything it will be aight.
- 223
- 00:20:23,251 --> 00:20:26,009
- Then, they put
- that death sentence on me.
- 224
- 00:20:27,546 --> 00:20:29,662
- Family run out of money.
- 225
- 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:32,395
- Money run out, he run out.
- 226
- 00:20:35,180 --> 00:20:37,496
- What you gonna do different?
- 227
- 00:20:40,138 --> 00:20:42,010
- The first thing we can do
- is apply for a re-trial--
- 228
- 00:20:42,010 --> 00:20:44,976
- Already did that, they denied.
- 229
- 00:20:45,391 --> 00:20:48,118
- It's right there in your file, so...
- 230
- 00:20:50,717 --> 00:20:54,158
- Okay, then we can ask
- for a reconsideration on that.
- 231
- 00:20:54,590 --> 00:20:56,376
- Then, a direct appeal
- to the Court of Criminal Appeals,
- 232
- 00:20:56,472 --> 00:20:58,892
- and work our way up
- to the State Supreme Court.
- 233
- 00:20:59,092 --> 00:21:01,443
- If we get denied there,
- we can file a Rule 32.
- 234
- 00:21:01,706 --> 00:21:03,442
- Then, a federal habeas petition.
- 235
- 00:21:03,602 --> 00:21:04,975
- And if all that fails, Mr. McMillian,
- 236
- 00:21:05,086 --> 00:21:06,823
- we can take your case all the way
- to the Supreme Court.
- 237
- 00:21:06,823 --> 00:21:09,673
- You don't know what you're into
- down here, don't you?
- 238
- 00:21:10,151 --> 00:21:14,208
- You think all those fancy words is gonna
- get you somewhere 'round here in Alabama?
- 239
- 00:21:15,236 --> 00:21:17,498
- All they gonna do is eat you alive
- and spit you out
- 240
- 00:21:17,498 --> 00:21:20,785
- just like every other black man they do
- when he stepped outta line.
- 241
- 00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:23,587
- You come out in here
- with them fancy suits.
- 242
- 00:21:23,861 --> 00:21:26,133
- Talking like a white. These people
- don't give a damn about that.
- 243
- 00:21:26,266 --> 00:21:29,721
- The only suit they wanna see
- a nigga in is the suit I got on.
- 244
- 00:21:32,031 --> 00:21:33,862
- Mr. McMillian, I can see
- how that be hard--
- 245
- 00:21:33,959 --> 00:21:35,785
- No, you don't!
- 246
- 00:21:37,253 --> 00:21:40,027
- No, you don't. No, you don't.
- 247
- 00:21:43,203 --> 00:21:46,507
- You're rich boy from Harvard,
- you don't what it is down here.
- 248
- 00:21:46,756 --> 00:21:49,824
- When you guilty
- from the moment you born.
- 249
- 00:21:52,305 --> 00:21:54,994
- And you can buddy up with these
- white folks, and make them laugh,
- 250
- 00:21:55,143 --> 00:21:57,124
- and try to make them like you,
- whatever that is,
- 251
- 00:21:57,124 --> 00:21:58,266
- and you say "yes, sir", "no, ma'am",
- 252
- 00:21:58,423 --> 00:22:01,799
- but when it's your turn,
- they ain't gotta have no fingerprints,
- 253
- 00:22:02,186 --> 00:22:04,207
- no evidence,
- 254
- 00:22:04,563 --> 00:22:09,024
- and the only witness they got
- made the whole thing up.
- 255
- 00:22:12,123 --> 00:22:14,507
- And none of that matter
- when all y'all think is
- 256
- 00:22:14,619 --> 00:22:16,689
- is that I look like a man
- 257
- 00:22:17,623 --> 00:22:20,005
- who could kill somebody.
- 258
- 00:22:22,344 --> 00:22:24,725
- But that's not what I think.
- 259
- 00:22:30,056 --> 00:22:33,951
- You know how many people
- been freed from Alabama death row?
- 260
- 00:22:37,289 --> 00:22:39,277
- None.
- 261
- 00:22:44,178 --> 00:22:46,949
- What make you think
- you gonna change that?
- 262
- 00:22:51,802 --> 00:22:53,831
- I ain't doin' this shit again.
- 263
- 00:22:53,831 --> 00:22:55,604
- - Guard!
- - Mr. McMillian.
- 264
- 00:22:55,604 --> 00:22:57,286
- We're done here.
- 265
- 00:22:57,286 --> 00:22:59,551
- Mr. McMillian, please!
- 266
- 00:23:00,711 --> 00:23:02,744
- I'm here to help.
- 267
- 00:23:06,971 --> 00:23:08,852
- What's up Johnny D.
- 268
- 00:23:38,945 --> 00:23:40,913
- Johnny D.
- 269
- 00:23:42,094 --> 00:23:43,533
- Johnny D, you there?
- 270
- 00:23:43,831 --> 00:23:45,558
- 'Sup, Herb?
- 271
- 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:48,502
- Ray there?
- 272
- 00:23:49,941 --> 00:23:51,557
- Ray.
- 273
- 00:23:52,437 --> 00:23:55,093
- Unavailable at the moment.
- 274
- 00:23:56,057 --> 00:23:57,697
- Where you at?
- 275
- 00:23:57,888 --> 00:24:01,484
- Buckingham Palace.
- I'm having tea with the Queen.
- 276
- 00:24:02,737 --> 00:24:06,330
- She's a very nice lady.
- I'll let you know when we done.
- 277
- 00:24:08,512 --> 00:24:11,691
- Johnny D, what did you think
- of the lawyer?
- 278
- 00:24:11,814 --> 00:24:15,758
- I think he a kid, doesn't know
- what he telling about.
- 279
- 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,352
- Makin' all of these promises
- he ain't gonna be able to keep.
- 280
- 00:24:21,335 --> 00:24:23,258
- I thought he was nice.
- 281
- 00:24:23,436 --> 00:24:24,900
- Nice?
- 282
- 00:24:25,019 --> 00:24:27,602
- What the hell you wanna
- nice lawyer for?
- 283
- 00:24:27,870 --> 00:24:29,928
- Nice ain't gonna get you shit!
- 284
- 00:24:30,047 --> 00:24:31,539
- Look at Johnny D.
- 285
- 00:24:31,664 --> 00:24:34,338
- Nice as a puppy,
- yet he in here with us.
- 286
- 00:24:34,608 --> 00:24:37,090
- I didn't know you thought
- about me like that, Ray.
- 287
- 00:24:37,936 --> 00:24:41,402
- You nice and everything.
- You're not as nice as La Toya Jackson,
- 288
- 00:24:41,569 --> 00:24:43,958
- but for old man
- on the row, you aight.
- 289
- 00:24:45,152 --> 00:24:47,593
- I thought you said
- I was the old man.
- 290
- 00:24:47,733 --> 00:24:50,818
- Johnny D is old, Herb,
- you more ancient.
- 291
- 00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:53,270
- Sorry to tell you.
- 292
- 00:24:59,515 --> 00:25:01,669
- Herb, turn that music up.
- 293
- 00:25:01,819 --> 00:25:03,536
- You got it.
- 294
- 00:26:24,348 --> 00:26:28,834
- Bryan, did you get any sleep?
- 295
- 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,777
- I don't think McMillian did it.
- 296
- 00:26:34,807 --> 00:26:38,042
- The State based its entire case
- on a testimony of one man.
- 297
- 00:26:38,202 --> 00:26:39,896
- Ralph Myers.
- 298
- 00:26:40,021 --> 00:26:42,252
- Myers spent most of his life
- in and out of prison.
- 299
- 00:26:42,378 --> 00:26:44,918
- When he testified, he was on trial
- for a different murder,
- 300
- 00:26:45,025 --> 00:26:46,839
- which he ended up
- getting 30 years for.
- 301
- 00:26:46,974 --> 00:26:48,456
- Seems like a pretty good deal.
- 302
- 00:26:48,456 --> 00:26:51,401
- In his statement, he said that Johnny D
- approached him at a car wash
- 303
- 00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:56,035
- and forced him at gunpoint to drive
- to Jackson Cleaners because his arm hurt.
- 304
- 00:26:56,154 --> 00:26:57,513
- That sounds logical.
- 305
- 00:26:57,513 --> 00:27:00,890
- When they get there, Johnny D tells him
- to wait in the truck while he goes inside.
- 306
- 00:27:01,022 --> 00:27:03,043
- And while he's waiting for his kidnapper,
- 307
- 00:27:03,182 --> 00:27:05,224
- he doesn't run,
- he doesn't go to the police,
- 308
- 00:27:05,224 --> 00:27:08,091
- instead he drives to the liquor store
- for cigarettes,
- 309
- 00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:10,776
- and then comes back
- to the crime scene.
- 310
- 00:27:11,041 --> 00:27:12,036
- Excuse me?
- 311
- 00:27:12,050 --> 00:27:14,165
- Myers hears a gunshot, goes inside,
- 312
- 00:27:14,203 --> 00:27:17,447
- and sees the body of Ronda Morrison
- lying on the ground face-up
- 313
- 00:27:17,567 --> 00:27:19,684
- and Johnny D standing
- over her with the gun
- 314
- 00:27:19,816 --> 00:27:22,860
- with some older white guy
- who he claimed 'was in charge.'
- 315
- 00:27:23,061 --> 00:27:25,428
- - Anyone tryna look for him?
- - Exactly.
- 316
- 00:27:26,854 --> 00:27:30,070
- They have one other witness
- to back his testimony,
- 317
- 00:27:30,199 --> 00:27:31,861
- a young black man named Bill Hooks.
- 318
- 00:27:32,016 --> 00:27:33,795
- Says he saw Johnny D's lowrider truck
- 319
- 00:27:33,895 --> 00:27:36,307
- leaving the cleaners
- around the time of the murder.
- 320
- 00:27:36,435 --> 00:27:39,522
- And that's it. That's all they have.
- 321
- 00:27:42,530 --> 00:27:46,138
- So, an 18-year-old white girl
- is murdered in broad daylight,
- 322
- 00:27:46,277 --> 00:27:48,398
- and the Sheriff can't solve
- the crime for how long?
- 323
- 00:27:48,512 --> 00:27:49,632
- Almost a year.
- 324
- 00:27:49,841 --> 00:27:52,751
- And then some other guy
- who's charged with a different murder
- 325
- 00:27:52,932 --> 00:27:56,347
- says that he can tell them who did it
- if he gets a lower sentence.
- 326
- 00:27:56,589 --> 00:27:58,765
- And the guy that he says did it,
- happens to be
- 327
- 00:27:58,792 --> 00:28:02,738
- a black man from a poor community
- that no one would think twice about?
- 328
- 00:28:06,231 --> 00:28:08,598
- There's gotta be more evidence than this.
- 329
- 00:28:09,617 --> 00:28:11,870
- I wanna set a meeting with the D.A.
- 330
- 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,323
- Tommy Chapman just took over
- for Pearson a few months ago.
- 331
- 00:28:15,628 --> 00:28:17,607
- He used to be a public defender.
- 332
- 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,171
- Maybe he's not aligned
- with the rest of them.
- 333
- 00:28:35,928 --> 00:28:38,401
- You visit the Mockingbird Museum yet?
- 334
- 00:28:38,972 --> 00:28:40,113
- No, ma'am.
- 335
- 00:28:40,247 --> 00:28:43,347
- It's the old courthouse
- Harper Lee's daddy used to work in.
- 336
- 00:28:43,706 --> 00:28:47,027
- You can stand right
- where Atticus Finch once stood.
- 337
- 00:28:50,316 --> 00:28:52,593
- Mr. Stevenson? I'm Tommy Chapman.
- 338
- 00:28:52,752 --> 00:28:53,906
- - Hey.
- - You found us okay?
- 339
- 00:28:53,906 --> 00:28:55,916
- - I did.
- - Good, follow me.
- 340
- 00:28:56,115 --> 00:28:57,143
- Thank you, Tracy.
- 341
- 00:28:57,405 --> 00:29:00,364
- A lot of people are very keen
- to meet you, Mr. Stevenson.
- 342
- 00:29:00,514 --> 00:29:01,208
- Oh, really?
- 343
- 00:29:01,208 --> 00:29:04,144
- Yeah, you're a Harvard lawyer
- who's moved to Alabama.
- 344
- 00:29:04,271 --> 00:29:06,749
- And now you start takin' on
- all these capital cases.
- 345
- 00:29:06,891 --> 00:29:10,381
- People just wanna know
- what your intentions are, I guess.
- 346
- 00:29:10,595 --> 00:29:13,620
- We're just tryna give legal assistance
- to people who can't afford it.
- 347
- 00:29:13,748 --> 00:29:15,190
- The legal assistance is one thing,
- 348
- 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:19,457
- but tryin' to put convicted murderers
- back on the street is somethin' else entirely.
- 349
- 00:29:20,601 --> 00:29:23,269
- Anyway, you didn't come
- all the way down here to talk about that.
- 350
- 00:29:23,396 --> 00:29:25,144
- What can I do for you today, Bryan?
- 351
- 00:29:25,324 --> 00:29:27,923
- I wanted to speak to you
- about Johnny D. McMillian.
- 352
- 00:29:28,097 --> 00:29:30,032
- You know I wasn't part
- of his prosecution, right?
- 353
- 00:29:30,032 --> 00:29:31,508
- That was way before my time.
- 354
- 00:29:31,608 --> 00:29:33,805
- And that's exactly
- why I wanted to meet you.
- 355
- 00:29:33,805 --> 00:29:35,817
- You see, I've read through the record
- quite a few times now,
- 356
- 00:29:35,971 --> 00:29:39,576
- and I have some serious doubts
- about the reliability of his conviction.
- 357
- 00:29:41,142 --> 00:29:43,781
- If you could take a look
- at the sections I highlighted here,
- 358
- 00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:46,994
- you'll see some problems
- with Ralph Myers' testimony.
- 359
- 00:29:48,288 --> 00:29:53,771
- Man, this is one of the most outrageous
- crimes in Monroe County history.
- 360
- 00:29:54,796 --> 00:29:57,385
- Your client made
- a lot of people very angry.
- 361
- 00:29:58,107 --> 00:30:01,406
- I understand that, but there are
- some serious problems with this case,
- 362
- 00:30:01,532 --> 00:30:03,208
- and I was hoping
- that I could get your support
- 363
- 00:30:03,328 --> 00:30:05,589
- to figure out what really happened.
- 364
- 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:08,347
- I already know what happened.
- 365
- 00:30:11,166 --> 00:30:13,736
- Johnny D. McMillian
- was convicted by a jury
- 366
- 00:30:13,877 --> 00:30:16,669
- of brutally murdering
- a teenage girl in my community.
- 367
- 00:30:16,826 --> 00:30:20,993
- Man, it is my job to defend
- the integrity of that conviction.
- 368
- 00:30:21,410 --> 00:30:24,735
- Even if that conviction
- is based on false testimony?
- 369
- 00:30:25,172 --> 00:30:27,289
- You're the only one I know
- who thinks that.
- 370
- 00:30:27,406 --> 00:30:29,341
- Then I must be the only one
- who read that record,
- 371
- 00:30:29,469 --> 00:30:31,674
- because it's pretty obvious.
- 372
- 00:30:36,198 --> 00:30:41,374
- That man caused a lot of pain,
- a lot of pain for folks 'round here.
- 373
- 00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:44,982
- And if you go diggin' in those wounds,
- 374
- 00:30:45,691 --> 00:30:48,890
- you're gonna be makin'
- a lot of people very unhappy.
- 375
- 00:30:49,974 --> 00:30:52,088
- Well, it isn't my job
- to make people happy,
- 376
- 00:30:52,216 --> 00:30:54,653
- it's to achieve justice for my client.
- 377
- 00:30:58,886 --> 00:31:00,446
- Well...
- 378
- 00:31:01,913 --> 00:31:06,733
- Ralph Myers' two confessions,
- and a statement from Bill Hooks.
- 379
- 00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:11,169
- I asked for copies of all
- the police and witness statements.
- 380
- 00:31:11,169 --> 00:31:12,396
- And that's what you're holding.
- 381
- 00:31:12,396 --> 00:31:14,370
- This is a joke.
- Where's the rest of it?
- 382
- 00:31:14,513 --> 00:31:16,480
- That's what's relevant
- to McMillian's case.
- 383
- 00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:19,408
- If you want more, you'll have to file
- a discovery motion with the court,
- 384
- 00:31:19,553 --> 00:31:21,278
- just like anybody else.
- 385
- 00:31:22,065 --> 00:31:25,137
- Thanks for coming by today,
- Mr. Stevenson.
- 386
- 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,859
- - Expect that motion soon.
- - I'll look forward to it, Counselor.
- 387
- 00:31:30,472 --> 00:31:32,748
- You wanna check out
- the Mockingbird Museum
- 388
- 00:31:33,014 --> 00:31:34,783
- on your way out of town.
- 389
- 00:31:34,928 --> 00:31:38,490
- It's one of the great
- civil rights landmarks of the South.
- 390
- 00:32:00,348 --> 00:32:02,443
- Helping a black man convicted
- of killing a white girl
- 391
- 00:32:02,566 --> 00:32:04,417
- is political suicide in that county.
- 392
- 00:32:04,551 --> 00:32:07,491
- I'm sure he's been reminded of that
- by whoever got him his job.
- 393
- 00:32:07,491 --> 00:32:09,981
- The way he was talking...
- I don't even think he read the record.
- 394
- 00:32:10,077 --> 00:32:11,687
- That doesn't surprise me.
- 395
- 00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:14,055
- Hey, Chris. Bobby.
- 396
- 00:32:14,344 --> 00:32:16,355
- - Come on in and get your snack.
- - Okay.
- 397
- 00:32:16,553 --> 00:32:19,348
- I'm gonna stop by Jackson Cleaners
- on my way to meet his family.
- 398
- 00:32:19,621 --> 00:32:22,865
- Okay. If I don't hear from you
- by morning, I'll send a rescue party.
- 399
- 00:32:22,865 --> 00:32:24,589
- I hope that's a joke.
- 400
- 00:32:24,805 --> 00:32:26,144
- Me too.
- 401
- 00:32:26,309 --> 00:32:27,946
- You just be careful, okay?
- 402
- 00:33:50,261 --> 00:33:51,748
- You the lawyer?
- 403
- 00:33:51,748 --> 00:33:54,067
- Yes, ma'am.
- My name is Bryan Stevenson.
- 404
- 00:33:54,235 --> 00:33:56,195
- I'm Johnny D's wife, Minnie.
- 405
- 00:33:56,394 --> 00:33:58,257
- Pleasure to meet you.
- 406
- 00:34:02,528 --> 00:34:05,181
- Thank you so much for drivin'
- all the way out here.
- 407
- 00:34:05,419 --> 00:34:07,789
- Most lawyers barely make time to call.
- 408
- 00:34:09,484 --> 00:34:11,805
- This is our youngest son, John.
- 409
- 00:34:11,947 --> 00:34:13,439
- A baby girl, Jackie.
- 410
- 00:34:14,382 --> 00:34:17,074
- I hope you don't mind,
- a few of our neighbors stopped by
- 411
- 00:34:17,162 --> 00:34:18,706
- to hear what you got to say.
- 412
- 00:34:19,297 --> 00:34:20,995
- Just a few?
- 413
- 00:34:21,516 --> 00:34:23,396
- - Come on, you'll be all right.
- - Okay.
- 414
- 00:34:30,387 --> 00:34:35,978
- Hey, now! We ain't gonna get nowhere
- with everybody quackin' at the same time!
- 415
- 00:34:36,620 --> 00:34:39,012
- Let Mr. Stevenson talk.
- 416
- 00:34:41,808 --> 00:34:45,091
- It's pleasure to meet... all of you.
- 417
- 00:34:46,661 --> 00:34:48,159
- Thank you.
- 418
- 00:34:49,375 --> 00:34:51,510
- Now I know you all have
- a lot of questions.
- 419
- 00:34:51,655 --> 00:34:53,790
- But I really would love
- to hear from you guys first,
- 420
- 00:34:53,918 --> 00:34:57,405
- just to get a better understanding
- of your perspective on things.
- 421
- 00:34:57,652 --> 00:35:01,954
- Our perspective is there ain't no way
- Johnny D did this crime.
- 422
- 00:35:03,018 --> 00:35:05,061
- The morning that girl was killed,
- 423
- 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:09,306
- we was all havin' a fish fry here
- to raise money for the church.
- 424
- 00:35:09,306 --> 00:35:14,109
- Johnny D was here, mornin' till night,
- workin' on his truck with John.
- 425
- 00:35:15,918 --> 00:35:17,894
- You were with your dad that day?
- 426
- 00:35:18,055 --> 00:35:20,809
- Yeah, we was up at six in the morning
- to put the truck on the rack.
- 427
- 00:35:21,004 --> 00:35:22,348
- Jimmy was there, too.
- 428
- 00:35:22,348 --> 00:35:26,786
- Yeah, we had that trendy
- clean out by 9:30.
- 429
- 00:35:28,209 --> 00:35:29,999
- How he supposed to go kidnap
- 430
- 00:35:30,238 --> 00:35:33,413
- some crazy white man
- all the way in Evergreen,
- 431
- 00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:37,983
- then drive back to Jackson Cleaners
- to kill that girl at 10:15
- 432
- 00:35:38,271 --> 00:35:40,806
- if his truck ain't got no transmission?
- 433
- 00:35:43,966 --> 00:35:47,084
- How many of you-all
- were with Walter that morning?
- 434
- 00:35:55,138 --> 00:35:57,643
- My husband could've never
- done this, no kind of way,
- 435
- 00:35:57,878 --> 00:36:00,781
- whether we was with him or not.
- He is just not like that.
- 436
- 00:36:01,438 --> 00:36:04,256
- Everybody know they went after him
- 'cause of that woman.
- 437
- 00:36:07,645 --> 00:36:09,697
- Sorry, Minnie.
- 438
- 00:36:10,194 --> 00:36:11,897
- It's okay.
- 439
- 00:36:12,738 --> 00:36:14,588
- It ain't no secret.
- 440
- 00:36:16,525 --> 00:36:18,458
- Few months before the murder,
- Johnny D got caught
- 441
- 00:36:18,589 --> 00:36:20,816
- messin' around
- with a white woman in town.
- 442
- 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,638
- When her husband found out about it,
- he made sure everybody knew.
- 443
- 00:36:24,847 --> 00:36:28,393
- People started talkin',
- and the stories kept growin'.
- 444
- 00:36:28,693 --> 00:36:33,586
- He went from a cheat, to a drug dealer,
- to head of the Dixie Mafia.
- 445
- 00:36:33,724 --> 00:36:35,641
- So, by the time somebody
- called him a murderer,
- 446
- 00:36:35,641 --> 00:36:37,626
- ain't nobody thought twice about it.
- 447
- 00:36:37,825 --> 00:36:39,536
- They can call it what they want.
- 448
- 00:36:39,669 --> 00:36:42,794
- It's just another way
- to lynch a black man.
- 449
- 00:36:44,941 --> 00:36:48,571
- There ain't no excuse for what
- my husband did to me and his family.
- 450
- 00:36:48,905 --> 00:36:50,992
- Damn fool hurt me bad.
- 451
- 00:36:54,108 --> 00:36:56,500
- But he still the daddy of my kids.
- 452
- 00:36:57,357 --> 00:36:59,297
- And I really don't know
- what I'm s'pose to tell them
- 453
- 00:36:59,421 --> 00:37:02,375
- about stayin' out of trouble
- when you can be at your own house,
- 454
- 00:37:02,490 --> 00:37:05,491
- minding your own business,
- surrounded by your entire family,
- 455
- 00:37:05,597 --> 00:37:08,140
- and they still go and put
- some murder on you.
- 456
- 00:37:10,447 --> 00:37:12,559
- It's not just Dad.
- 457
- 00:37:13,790 --> 00:37:16,716
- We feel like they put
- us all on death row, too.
- 458
- 00:37:19,576 --> 00:37:22,846
- I can only imagine the pain
- that you're going through.
- 459
- 00:37:23,004 --> 00:37:24,421
- But I'm gonna do everything I can--
- 460
- 00:37:24,421 --> 00:37:27,170
- The last lawyers was talkin'
- jus' as big as you,
- 461
- 00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:30,239
- then they took
- all our money and split.
- 462
- 00:37:30,694 --> 00:37:32,654
- Why you different?
- 463
- 00:37:33,834 --> 00:37:35,195
- Well...
- 464
- 00:37:35,482 --> 00:37:38,485
- Our organization
- will cover all legal fees.
- 465
- 00:37:38,834 --> 00:37:41,438
- So, none of you
- will ever have to pay a penny.
- 466
- 00:37:44,341 --> 00:37:47,428
- It's clear to me that this trial
- was constructed with lies.
- 467
- 00:37:48,048 --> 00:37:50,136
- And based off everything
- that I've seen,
- 468
- 00:37:50,495 --> 00:37:54,196
- I think we could build a case
- strong enough to bring Johnny D home.
- 469
- 00:37:54,756 --> 00:37:57,997
- And I'm not gonna stop
- until I've done that.
- 470
- 00:38:02,411 --> 00:38:04,940
- Well, you seem like good people to me,
- 471
- 00:38:06,430 --> 00:38:09,483
- but Johnny D is the one
- you gonna have to convince.
- 472
- 00:38:12,841 --> 00:38:14,924
- I don't know about the rest of y'all,
- 473
- 00:38:15,110 --> 00:38:18,308
- but I was sold on
- "y'all won't pay a penny."
- 474
- 00:38:26,869 --> 00:38:28,528
- Mr. Stevenson?
- 475
- 00:38:28,666 --> 00:38:30,003
- Call me Bryan.
- 476
- 00:38:30,695 --> 00:38:32,286
- Okay.
- 477
- 00:38:33,618 --> 00:38:35,633
- This is my friend, Darnell.
- 478
- 00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:38,764
- He has something
- he wants to talk to you about.
- 479
- 00:38:41,025 --> 00:38:42,476
- Come on.
- 480
- 00:38:44,764 --> 00:38:47,556
- I think I can prove he's innocent.
- 481
- 00:38:49,031 --> 00:38:50,916
- You heard of Bill Hooks, right?
- 482
- 00:38:51,362 --> 00:38:52,450
- Yeah.
- 483
- 00:38:52,562 --> 00:38:56,013
- He testified that he saw Johnny D's truck
- at the cleaners that morning.
- 484
- 00:38:56,141 --> 00:39:00,214
- Bill didn't see shit.
- He made the whole thing up.
- 485
- 00:39:01,462 --> 00:39:02,912
- How do you know that?
- 486
- 00:39:02,912 --> 00:39:06,644
- 'Cause I was with him.
- We was workin' at the shop together.
- 487
- 00:39:07,764 --> 00:39:09,404
- The morning of the murder?
- 488
- 00:39:09,521 --> 00:39:12,267
- Yes, sir, we was fixing
- the head gasket on a Camaro
- 489
- 00:39:12,611 --> 00:39:15,968
- from eight in the morning
- till right after we closed at lunch.
- 490
- 00:39:16,269 --> 00:39:19,180
- He was right next to me
- when them sirens was goin' off.
- 491
- 00:39:20,499 --> 00:39:21,981
- Why would he lie?
- 492
- 00:39:21,997 --> 00:39:24,396
- 'Cause the snitch
- cut a deal with the cops.
- 493
- 00:39:25,063 --> 00:39:27,341
- They had 'im locked up for burglary,
- and the day he gave his statement,
- 494
- 00:39:27,474 --> 00:39:30,332
- he walked out free,
- all charges dropped.
- 495
- 00:39:30,604 --> 00:39:34,148
- We told one of the other lawyers
- and they do nothing about it.
- 496
- 00:39:35,613 --> 00:39:39,118
- Would you be willing to sign
- a statement we could use in court?
- 497
- 00:39:43,229 --> 00:39:45,705
- Police would see my name?
- 498
- 00:39:47,761 --> 00:39:50,182
- It would be on the record.
- 499
- 00:39:51,963 --> 00:39:56,368
- Darnell, exposing yourself
- like this is not easy.
- 500
- 00:39:57,148 --> 00:40:02,329
- But with your testimony we can file
- a motion to reopen Johnny D's case.
- 501
- 00:40:03,488 --> 00:40:07,934
- Darnell, we need you.
- 502
- 00:40:13,047 --> 00:40:14,937
- Okay, I...
- 503
- 00:40:17,951 --> 00:40:19,046
- All right.
- 504
- 00:40:36,586 --> 00:40:39,310
- - Good morning
- - Good morning.
- 505
- 00:40:40,221 --> 00:40:42,494
- Thanks for seeing me again.
- 506
- 00:40:44,687 --> 00:40:48,104
- I know the last time we met
- things didn't go quite the way I--
- 507
- 00:40:48,223 --> 00:40:50,679
- I just can't believe
- you met my family.
- 508
- 00:40:52,307 --> 00:40:55,478
- Drove down that dirt road,
- crammed up in that little house,
- 509
- 00:40:55,623 --> 00:40:59,149
- talked to all of my people,
- to say you gonna try to fight for me.
- 510
- 00:41:03,935 --> 00:41:06,011
- That mean a lot.
- 511
- 00:41:07,933 --> 00:41:10,070
- It meant a lot to me, too.
- 512
- 00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:17,043
- Minnie wanted me
- to give this to you.
- 513
- 00:41:20,106 --> 00:41:23,396
- And if you don't mind,
- I have something I wanna show you.
- 514
- 00:41:26,003 --> 00:41:28,314
- It's a statement from Darnell Houston
- 515
- 00:41:28,452 --> 00:41:30,285
- saying that he was with Bill Hooks
- 516
- 00:41:30,409 --> 00:41:32,661
- three miles away
- at the time of the murder.
- 517
- 00:41:32,785 --> 00:41:35,246
- So, there's no way
- he could've seen your truck there.
- 518
- 00:41:35,370 --> 00:41:36,728
- That's good, right?
- 519
- 00:41:36,915 --> 00:41:38,050
- It's very good.
- 520
- 00:41:39,045 --> 00:41:41,924
- I'm gonna submit this
- with a motion for a new trial.
- 521
- 00:41:49,682 --> 00:41:53,842
- I know you talked to Minnie,
- she told you what I did to her...
- 522
- 00:41:54,858 --> 00:41:58,850
- I got no excuse for cheatin' on a woman.
- 'Cause I ain't good as she been to me.
- 523
- 00:42:00,795 --> 00:42:03,169
- I don't know why she standin' by me.
- 524
- 00:42:03,403 --> 00:42:06,736
- She's standing by you because
- she knows you shouldn't be in here.
- 525
- 00:42:07,529 --> 00:42:09,590
- And so do I.
- 526
- 00:42:10,999 --> 00:42:13,070
- I know you didn't kill Ronda Morrison.
- 527
- 00:42:13,552 --> 00:42:16,691
- And I can help you prove that
- in court, if you'll let me.
- 528
- 00:42:24,401 --> 00:42:28,064
- You met my whole family,
- you know everythin' about 'em.
- 529
- 00:42:29,113 --> 00:42:31,311
- I don't know nothin' 'bout you though.
- 530
- 00:42:31,579 --> 00:42:34,982
- - What would you like to know?
- - I wanna know it all, like why you...
- 531
- 00:42:35,508 --> 00:42:37,245
- Why you doin' this?
- 532
- 00:42:37,552 --> 00:42:39,089
- - Why am I a lawyer?
- - No, no...
- 533
- 00:42:39,207 --> 00:42:40,755
- Why is you a lawyer
- down here in Alabama,
- 534
- 00:42:40,898 --> 00:42:43,926
- taking these cases that ain't nobody
- gonna pay you for?
- 535
- 00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:54,537
- I grew up down a road
- just like yours,
- 536
- 00:42:56,673 --> 00:43:00,912
- playing soccer in a dirt field,
- with the pigs and chickens...
- 537
- 00:43:02,073 --> 00:43:04,636
- Used to pump sewage from my yard.
- 538
- 00:43:08,544 --> 00:43:11,195
- When I was a teenager,
- my grandfather was murdered
- 539
- 00:43:11,383 --> 00:43:13,666
- over a black-and-white TV.
- 540
- 00:43:15,603 --> 00:43:18,683
- We kept waiting for someone
- to show up to help,
- 541
- 00:43:20,647 --> 00:43:22,565
- they never did.
- 542
- 00:43:24,294 --> 00:43:29,524
- And that's when I realized that
- outside of my community nobody cared,
- 543
- 00:43:30,873 --> 00:43:35,132
- because to them, he's just
- another black man killed in the projects.
- 544
- 00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:41,648
- I know what it's like
- to be in the shadows.
- 545
- 00:43:43,686 --> 00:43:45,860
- That's why I'm doing this.
- 546
- 00:43:49,299 --> 00:43:51,487
- That's a pretty good reason.
- 547
- 00:44:00,651 --> 00:44:02,578
- Okay.
- 548
- 00:44:04,514 --> 00:44:06,465
- Okay..?
- 549
- 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,746
- Let's get to work.
- 550
- 00:44:13,024 --> 00:44:15,150
- Okay.
- 551
- 00:44:30,858 --> 00:44:32,887
- Yo, Johnny D.
- 552
- 00:44:33,667 --> 00:44:35,591
- You signin' up with that lawyer?
- 553
- 00:44:35,812 --> 00:44:37,674
- I'm gonna give him a try.
- 554
- 00:44:37,792 --> 00:44:40,794
- Seems like everybody on the row
- workin' with him now.
- 555
- 00:44:41,091 --> 00:44:43,446
- I'm starting to feel left out.
- 556
- 00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:46,407
- Is he really that good?
- 557
- 00:44:47,650 --> 00:44:49,172
- I hope so.
- 558
- 00:44:49,577 --> 00:44:50,953
- What you think, Herbert?
- 559
- 00:44:51,103 --> 00:44:53,982
- Should I just dump my guy
- and make the switch-over?
- 560
- 00:44:57,107 --> 00:45:00,478
- Herb, you hear me? You there?
- 561
- 00:45:02,748 --> 00:45:04,745
- I'm here.
- 562
- 00:45:05,643 --> 00:45:07,836
- Herb, you okay?
- 563
- 00:45:12,461 --> 00:45:15,223
- They s-set my d-date.
- 564
- 00:45:23,171 --> 00:45:27,193
- Herb, don't you worry about nothin' that,
- everything gonna be aight, okay?
- 565
- 00:45:27,415 --> 00:45:28,946
- Ain't nothing over yet.
- 566
- 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,513
- You got Bryan working for you now.
- 567
- 00:45:33,294 --> 00:45:35,496
- I-I ain't like you guys.
- 568
- 00:45:35,777 --> 00:45:38,123
- I d-d-deserve what's comin'.
- 569
- 00:45:40,625 --> 00:45:42,852
- There, you go talkin' out your ass.
- 570
- 00:45:44,227 --> 00:45:46,354
- You fought for this country,
- 571
- 00:45:47,059 --> 00:45:49,566
- and they do you in the bag,
- like a trash...
- 572
- 00:45:50,732 --> 00:45:53,675
- That war made you sick
- in your head, man.
- 573
- 00:45:54,130 --> 00:45:56,414
- You supposed to be in a hospital.
- 574
- 00:45:56,746 --> 00:45:58,555
- Not here.
- 575
- 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:05,403
- When I told the cops
- that stopped me I was innocent,
- 576
- 00:46:05,709 --> 00:46:07,936
- do you know what they say?
- 577
- 00:46:09,545 --> 00:46:11,833
- One of you niggers did it,
- 578
- 00:46:12,344 --> 00:46:17,002
- and if it weren't you,
- you take your one for your homie.
- 579
- 00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:22,727
- Johnny D's prosecutor say
- he know he killed the girl
- 580
- 00:46:22,849 --> 00:46:25,747
- because of the way
- he looked in his mug shot.
- 581
- 00:46:27,033 --> 00:46:30,907
- You don't deserve this shit
- more than any of us, Herb.
- 582
- 00:46:33,854 --> 00:46:37,165
- A girl is dead because of me.
- 583
- 00:46:40,366 --> 00:46:43,534
- That don't give nobody
- the right to kill you back.
- 584
- 00:46:46,696 --> 00:46:49,113
- Herbert was 18
- when he went to Vietnam.
- 585
- 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:52,956
- He was the only survivor in an ambush
- that killed his whole platoon.
- 586
- 00:46:53,393 --> 00:46:56,528
- After that, he had a mental breakdown,
- attempted suicide,
- 587
- 00:46:56,665 --> 00:46:58,947
- and was sent home
- on an honorable discharge.
- 588
- 00:46:59,103 --> 00:47:03,151
- Back at home he continued
- to suffer from nightmares, crying fits,
- 589
- 00:47:03,532 --> 00:47:07,424
- running out of his house
- screaming 'incoming' to his neighbors.
- 590
- 00:47:07,557 --> 00:47:09,254
- His lawyer didn't even mention
- military service
- 591
- 00:47:09,422 --> 00:47:11,174
- or mental trauma to the jury.
- 592
- 00:47:11,331 --> 00:47:14,344
- A few months after the trial,
- he was disbarred for misconduct.
- 593
- 00:47:14,466 --> 00:47:16,529
- Of course, he was.
- 594
- 00:47:18,314 --> 00:47:20,681
- Okay, what can we do?
- 595
- 00:47:21,563 --> 00:47:23,944
- Since he's already been
- through the appeals process,
- 596
- 00:47:24,086 --> 00:47:27,631
- the statutes of limitations are gonna
- make it hard for a judge to listen.
- 597
- 00:47:29,817 --> 00:47:32,166
- We will have to try and make them.
- 598
- 00:47:32,646 --> 00:47:34,567
- I can start on a motion tonight.
- 599
- 00:47:34,693 --> 00:47:36,833
- - Hello?
- - Okay.
- 600
- 00:47:37,429 --> 00:47:38,973
- It's for you, Mom.
- 601
- 00:47:39,358 --> 00:47:40,975
- Thank you, sweetie.
- 602
- 00:47:40,975 --> 00:47:42,251
- Hello?
- 603
- 00:47:42,251 --> 00:47:45,324
- <i>You the bitch workin'
- for that nigger lawyer?</i>
- 604
- 00:47:45,434 --> 00:47:46,788
- Who the hell is this?
- 605
- 00:47:46,922 --> 00:47:50,235
- <i>The guy who put the bomb under your house
- that's gonna blow your family all to hell.</i>
- 606
- 00:47:50,359 --> 00:47:53,713
- <i>if you don't stop workin'
- for that nigger Johnny D.</i>
- 607
- 00:47:54,176 --> 00:47:55,666
- Everybody out of the house!
- 608
- 00:47:55,793 --> 00:47:58,035
- - What's going on?
- - I'll tell you outside.
- 609
- 00:48:15,988 --> 00:48:18,147
- They didn't find anything.
- 610
- 00:48:18,728 --> 00:48:20,431
- Are they sure?
- 611
- 00:48:22,533 --> 00:48:26,146
- - Did they check the basement.
- - They said they checked the basement.
- 612
- 00:48:33,522 --> 00:48:36,489
- Okay, baby. Let's get you to bed.
- 613
- 00:48:46,548 --> 00:48:48,913
- When you asked me
- to do this thing with you,
- 614
- 00:48:51,205 --> 00:48:54,736
- I knew that I'd lose some friends,
- 615
- 00:48:56,205 --> 00:49:00,743
- have people talkin' shit
- behind my back, or to my face.
- 616
- 00:49:02,861 --> 00:49:04,274
- I don't need people to like me
- 617
- 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,755
- as long as I'm doin'
- what I'm supposed to do.
- 618
- 00:49:10,776 --> 00:49:13,553
- But threatenin' my family...
- 619
- 00:49:17,379 --> 00:49:22,748
- Eva, you know I'd never blame you
- if you needed to stop.
- 620
- 00:49:25,732 --> 00:49:30,139
- I don't want my son growing up knowing
- that his mom stopped doing what was right
- 621
- 00:49:30,261 --> 00:49:33,661
- just because she was scared
- of some crazy bigot.
- 622
- 00:49:39,210 --> 00:49:40,824
- Okay?
- 623
- 00:49:41,060 --> 00:49:43,555
- What are we gonna do about McMillian?
- 624
- 00:49:47,582 --> 00:49:50,044
- We start the investigation from scratch.
- 625
- 00:49:51,223 --> 00:49:54,200
- Find anyone in town
- who's willing to talk.
- 626
- 00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:01,242
- Maybe people will stop tryna kill us
- once they realize how charming we are.
- 627
- 00:50:09,583 --> 00:50:11,626
- I just wanted to ask you
- a couple of questions
- 628
- 00:50:11,749 --> 00:50:13,888
- about the Ronda Morrison murder.
- 629
- 00:50:14,937 --> 00:50:16,419
- It's just...
- 630
- 00:50:16,565 --> 00:50:19,030
- You were on the witness list
- for the Ronda Morrison trial a few years back--
- 631
- 00:50:19,139 --> 00:50:21,618
- Sorry, can't help you with that.
- 632
- 00:50:23,013 --> 00:50:24,122
- Is there anything--
- 633
- 00:50:24,122 --> 00:50:26,219
- Anything at all that you feel
- comfortable talking to me about--
- 634
- 00:50:26,345 --> 00:50:28,683
- If you are not workin'
- for that poor girl's family,
- 635
- 00:50:28,848 --> 00:50:32,042
- then I ain't got nothin'
- to say to you. Sorry, sweetie.
- 636
- 00:50:33,681 --> 00:50:35,258
- Officer Ikner?
- 637
- 00:50:36,374 --> 00:50:38,465
- Ain't no officer no more.
- 638
- 00:50:39,154 --> 00:50:41,905
- I'm a lawyer representing
- Johnny D. McMillian,
- 639
- 00:50:42,005 --> 00:50:44,983
- I understand you were
- the first officer on the scene?
- 640
- 00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:55,582
- I was right! The fish fry was on Saturday,
- November 1st, same day as the murder.
- 641
- 00:50:55,743 --> 00:50:57,816
- They put these up all over town.
- 642
- 00:50:59,176 --> 00:51:01,332
- I could kiss you, Deb.
- 643
- 00:51:07,101 --> 00:51:10,516
- We're planning to grow this into something
- the whole country will be talkin' about,
- 644
- 00:51:10,670 --> 00:51:13,930
- and you can say that
- it all started in your building.
- 645
- 00:51:14,656 --> 00:51:17,763
- What exactly kind of work do you do?
- 646
- 00:51:18,764 --> 00:51:20,965
- We're just helping people.
- 647
- 00:51:26,780 --> 00:51:27,972
- - Looks good.
- - It's perfect.
- 648
- 00:51:28,379 --> 00:51:30,837
- My client, Herbert Richardson,
- was recommended for a Medal of Valor
- 649
- 00:51:30,979 --> 00:51:32,602
- for disarming a bomb in Vietnam.
- 650
- 00:51:32,602 --> 00:51:35,490
- We got a tip that a few
- of your employees can back his alibi.
- 651
- 00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:39,171
- Vivian Clark was one of the teenagers
- who were sexually abused at your facility.
- 652
- 00:51:39,333 --> 00:51:41,344
- No, I'm not an attorney,
- but I promise you,
- 653
- 00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:43,668
- your son is in very good hands.
- 654
- 00:51:51,654 --> 00:51:54,136
- Equal Justice Initiative, this is Brenda.
- 655
- 00:51:55,561 --> 00:51:58,243
- Okay... Yes... Just one moment.
- 656
- 00:51:58,481 --> 00:52:00,532
- Darnell Houston.
- 657
- 00:52:02,732 --> 00:52:04,620
- Hello, Darnell.
- 658
- 00:52:06,077 --> 00:52:08,438
- Whoa, whoa, slow down.
- 659
- 00:52:09,942 --> 00:52:11,543
- Where are you?
- 660
- 00:52:13,830 --> 00:52:16,744
- - Are you okay?
- - No, sir. I'm not.
- 661
- 00:52:17,987 --> 00:52:20,501
- Okay, Darnell, let's go talk in my car.
- 662
- 00:52:20,601 --> 00:52:22,029
- Okay.
- 663
- 00:52:25,438 --> 00:52:27,762
- How in the hell
- they lockin' me up for perjury
- 664
- 00:52:27,932 --> 00:52:30,246
- if alls I did was say the truth?
- 665
- 00:52:31,267 --> 00:52:33,655
- I knew I shouldn't a signed
- that paper, man.
- 666
- 00:52:33,655 --> 00:52:34,970
- Shouldn't a listened to you.
- 667
- 00:52:35,129 --> 00:52:37,195
- What they did to you
- was completely illegal.
- 668
- 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,177
- I'm gonna talk to the D.A.
- and get all of these charges dismissed.
- 669
- 00:52:40,325 --> 00:52:43,116
- - This will never happen again.
- - How the hell do you know?
- 670
- 00:52:43,938 --> 00:52:46,025
- You can't control these guys.
- 671
- 00:52:46,305 --> 00:52:50,587
- They arrested me in the middle
- of my shift, in front of my boss.
- 672
- 00:52:50,938 --> 00:52:53,298
- I don't even know
- if I got a job tomorrow.
- 673
- 00:52:58,726 --> 00:53:01,517
- I feel bad for what
- they doin' to Johnny D,
- 674
- 00:53:04,121 --> 00:53:06,433
- but I'm just tryin' to survive.
- 675
- 00:53:08,186 --> 00:53:10,282
- I can't fight these guys, man.
- 676
- 00:53:11,836 --> 00:53:13,773
- You gonna have to find somebody else.
- 677
- 00:53:13,906 --> 00:53:16,866
- Darnell, think about Johnny D, okay?
- 678
- 00:53:17,616 --> 00:53:19,817
- Think about his family.
- They need you.
- 679
- 00:53:19,958 --> 00:53:22,442
- Give me some time to work on this.
- 680
- 00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:31,915
- That's my ride.
- 681
- 00:53:32,813 --> 00:53:35,134
- Tell Johnny D I'm sorry.
- 682
- 00:54:09,326 --> 00:54:11,003
- I need to speak with you!
- 683
- 00:54:13,212 --> 00:54:14,917
- Hey, Bryan.
- 684
- 00:54:15,526 --> 00:54:17,795
- Have you met Sheriff Tate?
- 685
- 00:54:20,286 --> 00:54:22,726
- Who ordered the arrest of my witness?
- 686
- 00:54:23,180 --> 00:54:25,573
- If people make false statements
- concerning this case,
- 687
- 00:54:25,704 --> 00:54:27,145
- they're gonna be held accountable.
- 688
- 00:54:27,303 --> 00:54:29,182
- You can't arrest someone
- for perjury without evidence
- 689
- 00:54:29,182 --> 00:54:31,051
- that a false statement has been made.
- 690
- 00:54:31,051 --> 00:54:33,887
- Hang on, you're representing
- Mr. Houston now, too?
- 691
- 00:54:33,887 --> 00:54:37,590
- Yes, I am. His statement contradicts
- Bill Hooks' entire testimony.
- 692
- 00:54:37,590 --> 00:54:39,955
- Hooks isn't the state's main witness,
- Ralph Myers is.
- 693
- 00:54:40,212 --> 00:54:44,958
- Alabama code 12-21-222 requires
- corroboration of accomplice testimony,
- 694
- 00:54:45,149 --> 00:54:47,928
- so, without Hooks,
- the conviction wouldn't be valid.
- 695
- 00:54:51,114 --> 00:54:54,662
- I went down to see
- Ronda Morrison's mama yesterday.
- 696
- 00:54:55,373 --> 00:54:59,948
- She's in tears, she kept asking me
- why some lawyer from up north
- 697
- 00:55:00,110 --> 00:55:03,697
- would come down here and make them
- relive all this hell again.
- 698
- 00:55:04,684 --> 00:55:07,518
- You can tell her it's because
- Johnny D didn't kill her daughter.
- 699
- 00:55:07,518 --> 00:55:10,307
- And whoever did
- is still out there somewhere.
- 700
- 00:55:12,342 --> 00:55:15,835
- I know how desperate you must be
- 701
- 00:55:16,032 --> 00:55:19,321
- to fulfill your fantasy
- of who we are down here.
- 702
- 00:55:20,019 --> 00:55:24,122
- Just a bunch of corrupt Southern racists
- framin' niggers for murder.
- 703
- 00:55:24,578 --> 00:55:26,763
- And you here to save the day.
- 704
- 00:55:27,585 --> 00:55:29,857
- Hell, you can believe
- in that if you want to.
- 705
- 00:55:30,484 --> 00:55:34,313
- But I know that Johnny D killed that girl,
- he's gonna answer for it.
- 706
- 00:55:34,631 --> 00:55:37,867
- How do you know that?
- You have no hard evidence.
- 707
- 00:55:38,317 --> 00:55:40,667
- You based your entire case
- on the word of an indicted felon
- 708
- 00:55:40,783 --> 00:55:43,006
- who had every incentive
- to tell you what you wanted to hear.
- 709
- 00:55:43,147 --> 00:55:46,435
- - Ralph Myers testified on his own accord!
- - And it made no sense!
- 710
- 00:55:46,585 --> 00:55:49,654
- He couldn't finish a sentence
- without contradicting himself.
- 711
- 00:55:50,887 --> 00:55:52,993
- The charges against Darnell Houston
- are baseless.
- 712
- 00:55:53,246 --> 00:55:55,050
- They'll never stand up in court.
- 713
- 00:55:55,415 --> 00:55:57,956
- They should be dropped immediately.
- 714
- 00:56:01,975 --> 00:56:03,847
- Okay.
- 715
- 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,206
- - Is that okay with you, Tommy?
- - Sure.
- 716
- 00:56:09,261 --> 00:56:10,721
- It doesn't really matter.
- 717
- 00:56:10,846 --> 00:56:13,583
- Now that court denied your motion
- to reopen the case.
- 718
- 00:56:14,865 --> 00:56:16,619
- What was that?
- 719
- 00:56:17,350 --> 00:56:19,308
- You didn't get the order?
- 720
- 00:56:19,598 --> 00:56:23,426
- The judge is down in Mobile now.
- Sometimes they have mail issues.
- 721
- 00:56:24,758 --> 00:56:27,611
- You can tell Mr. Houston the charges
- against him are being dropped.
- 722
- 00:56:27,756 --> 00:56:29,541
- I can do that much for y'all,
- but anything else
- 723
- 00:56:29,685 --> 00:56:31,876
- will have to be raised on appeal.
- 724
- 00:56:38,449 --> 00:56:41,013
- Thanks for stoppin' by, Counselor.
- 725
- 00:57:22,422 --> 00:57:25,496
- - Something wrong, Officer?
- - Step out of the vehicle.
- 726
- 00:57:26,196 --> 00:57:28,953
- I don't understand. I wasn't speeding.
- 727
- 00:57:29,251 --> 00:57:31,659
- I said step out of the vehicle.
- 728
- 00:57:31,952 --> 00:57:35,797
- I'll get out of the car, but first,
- can you tell me why you stopped me?
- 729
- 00:57:36,761 --> 00:57:38,444
- Get out of the goddamn car!
- 730
- 00:57:38,606 --> 00:57:39,900
- Okay. Okay.
- 731
- 00:57:40,219 --> 00:57:41,598
- Come on!
- 732
- 00:57:42,351 --> 00:57:44,226
- - I'm taking off me seat belt.
- - Come on!
- 733
- 00:57:44,357 --> 00:57:46,017
- I'm opening up the door.
- I'm stepping out.
- 734
- 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,140
- Faster! Come on!
- 735
- 00:57:47,140 --> 00:57:49,292
- - I have nothing in my hands.
- - Turn around!
- 736
- 00:57:49,526 --> 00:57:51,176
- Hands on the car!
- 737
- 00:57:58,041 --> 00:58:01,265
- You don't have to have a gun
- pointed at me. I'm not a threat.
- 738
- 00:58:01,493 --> 00:58:04,145
- Shut your damn mouth, boy!
- 739
- 00:58:04,335 --> 00:58:05,890
- Hey, brother.
- 740
- 00:58:06,430 --> 00:58:10,376
- You oughta be careful with your words
- when you got a gun at your head.
- 741
- 00:58:13,998 --> 00:58:15,569
- Let's go, Joe.
- 742
- 00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:25,649
- Why did you stop me?
- 743
- 00:58:25,819 --> 00:58:27,906
- We're letting you go.
- 744
- 00:58:28,759 --> 00:58:30,812
- You should be happy.
- 745
- 00:58:57,894 --> 00:58:59,954
- Even if they drop them charges,
- 746
- 00:59:00,235 --> 00:59:03,828
- Darnell ain't gonna testify
- after what they have done to him.
- 747
- 00:59:05,427 --> 00:59:07,676
- I know we took a big hit. We did.
- 748
- 00:59:07,932 --> 00:59:10,972
- But we just need to gather
- more evidence for another motion.
- 749
- 00:59:11,077 --> 00:59:11,831
- They will block it.
- 750
- 00:59:11,831 --> 00:59:14,806
- If they can put me on the row
- for a year without no trial,
- 751
- 00:59:15,045 --> 00:59:17,195
- they can do whatever the they wanna do.
- 752
- 00:59:17,848 --> 00:59:20,351
- They put you on death row
- before your trial?
- 753
- 00:59:21,518 --> 00:59:23,107
- Sheriff drove me hisself.
- 754
- 00:59:23,262 --> 00:59:27,375
- Said, I'm gonna give you a little taste
- of what it's like, unless you confess.
- 755
- 00:59:28,506 --> 00:59:32,043
- - Why are you just now telling me this?
- - This is how it is down here.
- 756
- 00:59:33,446 --> 00:59:36,099
- Been like that as long
- as I can remember.
- 757
- 00:59:43,744 --> 00:59:46,217
- They're messing with you, ain't they?
- 758
- 00:59:51,028 --> 00:59:53,448
- They're not making it easy on me.
- 759
- 00:59:55,706 --> 00:59:57,758
- I got a plan for you though.
- 760
- 00:59:58,632 --> 00:59:59,965
- I'm all ears.
- 761
- 01:00:01,167 --> 01:00:05,464
- This is what I think we should do.
- I think you should train up another lawyer,
- 762
- 01:00:05,635 --> 01:00:09,201
- 'cause I'm gonna need somebody
- just in case they take you out.
- 763
- 01:00:11,111 --> 01:00:12,980
- It's like that?
- 764
- 01:00:13,114 --> 01:00:15,174
- Like that. It's like that.
- 765
- 01:00:15,601 --> 01:00:18,757
- - I thought I had a friend.
- - Ain't no friends in here.
- 766
- 01:00:18,903 --> 01:00:20,891
- - Cold world.
- - Yeah.
- 767
- 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,954
- So, if we ain't got Darnell,
- 768
- 01:00:27,691 --> 01:00:29,673
- what's the next move?
- 769
- 01:00:33,252 --> 01:00:36,387
- I think we should talk to Ralph Myers.
- 770
- 01:00:39,478 --> 01:00:40,487
- - Walter.
- - No.
- 771
- 01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:42,648
- Just listen to me for a second.
- 772
- 01:00:43,610 --> 01:00:45,490
- I know it's risky,
- 773
- 01:00:45,579 --> 01:00:47,744
- but the only way to find out
- what he really knows
- 774
- 01:00:47,849 --> 01:00:50,060
- is for me to get him talking.
- 775
- 01:00:50,521 --> 01:00:52,490
- I know what he know.
- 776
- 01:00:54,563 --> 01:00:56,759
- You know what that man did to me?
- 777
- 01:00:58,460 --> 01:01:00,851
- Took my life away from me,
- 778
- 01:01:01,585 --> 01:01:03,740
- to save his own ass.
- 779
- 01:01:04,603 --> 01:01:07,520
- All he gonna give you is lies.
- 780
- 01:01:08,482 --> 01:01:10,951
- I promise. I'm gonna be careful.
- 781
- 01:01:39,220 --> 01:01:41,234
- Mr. Myers.
- 782
- 01:01:41,779 --> 01:01:43,573
- You Bobby?
- 783
- 01:01:44,271 --> 01:01:46,042
- I'm Bryan.
- 784
- 01:01:46,865 --> 01:01:48,623
- Maybe later.
- 785
- 01:01:49,243 --> 01:01:51,902
- Okay. Do you wanna sit down?
- 786
- 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,918
- You gonna buy me a Coke first?
- 787
- 01:01:55,062 --> 01:01:58,301
- Or you gonna make me stare
- at them vending machines all day?
- 788
- 01:01:59,435 --> 01:02:02,036
- Sure. What do you want?
- 789
- 01:02:02,152 --> 01:02:04,605
- - Sunkist Orange.
- - Okay.
- 790
- 01:02:05,226 --> 01:02:07,563
- And some Jujyfruits
- if they got 'em!
- 791
- 01:02:11,554 --> 01:02:14,129
- I just wanna say thanks
- for meeting me, Mr. Myers.
- 792
- 01:02:24,078 --> 01:02:28,061
- Can we start by talking about
- your testimony against Johnny D?
- 793
- 01:02:28,198 --> 01:02:29,728
- No.
- 794
- 01:02:30,705 --> 01:02:32,725
- I ain't talkin' about him.
- 795
- 01:02:33,340 --> 01:02:35,271
- That's the only reason why I'm here.
- 796
- 01:02:35,438 --> 01:02:37,551
- You don't like it, leave.
- 797
- 01:02:39,606 --> 01:02:43,274
- Don't look so sad, we can talk
- about other things. I love to talk.
- 798
- 01:02:43,871 --> 01:02:46,310
- My wife says if I got paid
- for every word I said,
- 799
- 01:02:46,458 --> 01:02:48,879
- we'd be a couple a billionaires by now.
- 800
- 01:02:51,432 --> 01:02:53,003
- Oh, yeah?
- 801
- 01:02:53,217 --> 01:02:54,797
- How long you been married?
- 802
- 01:02:54,971 --> 01:02:59,147
- Long enough to pop out a couple a' kids
- and watch her turn 'em all against me.
- 803
- 01:02:59,199 --> 01:03:01,994
- - You got kids?
- - Me? No.
- 804
- 01:03:02,809 --> 01:03:05,160
- But Johnny D does.
- 805
- 01:03:07,216 --> 01:03:10,526
- The thing about kids is,
- they ain't nothin' like havin' a dog.
- 806
- 01:03:10,825 --> 01:03:14,773
- It's a totally different deal. I wish
- somebody told me that in the first place
- 807
- 01:03:15,662 --> 01:03:21,263
- My kids, they think they got it so bad,
- they ain't seen nothin' like I seen.
- 808
- 01:03:21,443 --> 01:03:24,169
- Try makin' it as a foster kid
- your whole life,
- 809
- 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,112
- soon as you figure out one shitty parent,
- they movin' you to a new one.
- 810
- 01:03:32,655 --> 01:03:34,522
- I'm sorry.
- 811
- 01:03:34,736 --> 01:03:36,933
- I'm sure that wasn't easy.
- 812
- 01:03:41,952 --> 01:03:44,270
- How many kids he got?
- 813
- 01:03:45,271 --> 01:03:47,580
- Johnny D has three.
- 814
- 01:03:51,219 --> 01:03:53,765
- Mr. Myers, I know you made a deal
- with the State,
- 815
- 01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:57,539
- but I don't think they told you
- Johnny D was gonna die because of it.
- 816
- 01:03:58,435 --> 01:04:00,860
- That must not be
- an easy thing to carry.
- 817
- 01:04:01,457 --> 01:04:05,361
- And I'm hoping there's a part of you
- that wants to make things right.
- 818
- 01:04:09,237 --> 01:04:12,110
- Can we please talk
- about your testimony?
- 819
- 01:04:27,691 --> 01:04:30,485
- From the day they moved
- my ass up in Escambia,
- 820
- 01:04:30,743 --> 01:04:33,979
- for something I'm tellin' you
- I ain't had nothing to do with,
- 821
- 01:04:34,485 --> 01:04:37,443
- all them police wanna talk about
- was Ronda Morrison.
- 822
- 01:04:37,549 --> 01:04:39,592
- It was Morrison this, Morrison that.
- 823
- 01:04:39,725 --> 01:04:42,654
- Sometime four or five of 'em
- in the room at the same time.
- 824
- 01:04:43,766 --> 01:04:47,586
- They were questioning you
- about her the day you were arrested?
- 825
- 01:04:49,526 --> 01:04:51,374
- Alls I'm sayin' is,
- 826
- 01:04:51,750 --> 01:04:55,539
- ain't nobody cared about a damn thing
- besides who killed that girl.
- 827
- 01:04:55,739 --> 01:04:57,547
- And when people care about
- a thing that much,
- 828
- 01:04:57,708 --> 01:05:00,326
- they'll do anything
- to get what they want.
- 829
- 01:05:01,736 --> 01:05:05,133
- You know they'll kill you
- if you get to the bottom of this, right?
- 830
- 01:05:06,386 --> 01:05:09,207
- - Where are you going?
- - We done here, Bobby.
- 831
- 01:05:09,395 --> 01:05:11,441
- Thanks for the Jujies.
- 832
- 01:05:12,268 --> 01:05:14,465
- Ready, boss!
- 833
- 01:05:17,514 --> 01:05:19,354
- Myers said he was questioned
- about Ronda Morrison
- 834
- 01:05:19,488 --> 01:05:21,414
- the day he was arrested
- on June 3rd.
- 835
- 01:05:21,533 --> 01:05:23,140
- But the only statement
- they presented in court
- 836
- 01:05:23,262 --> 01:05:25,562
- was recorded almost two months later.
- 837
- 01:05:25,734 --> 01:05:28,705
- Do you think they're hiding
- his first statement somewhere?
- 838
- 01:05:29,232 --> 01:05:31,117
- If they are, it might be
- at the Escambia Courthouse
- 839
- 01:05:31,253 --> 01:05:32,907
- with the files from his other case.
- 840
- 01:05:33,075 --> 01:05:35,142
- You know anyone over there?
- 841
- 01:05:35,298 --> 01:05:36,976
- I do.
- 842
- 01:05:40,704 --> 01:05:44,284
- That's everything we got on Myers.
- You can make copies over there.
- 843
- 01:05:44,457 --> 01:05:46,818
- - Thank you, ma'am.
- - Sure, baby.
- 844
- 01:05:48,736 --> 01:05:50,891
- He's cute. Married?
- 845
- 01:05:51,013 --> 01:05:52,964
- Married to his work.
- 846
- 01:05:53,262 --> 01:05:54,510
- How's Uncle Mickey doin'?
- 847
- 01:05:54,731 --> 01:05:56,762
- He's buildin' another shed,
- 848
- 01:05:57,099 --> 01:05:59,763
- 'cause the other two apparently
- ain't enough.
- 849
- 01:06:00,068 --> 01:06:02,147
- Man's needs a project.
- 850
- 01:06:03,186 --> 01:06:04,752
- Ms. Miller.
- 851
- 01:06:05,083 --> 01:06:07,217
- Can I take a copy of these?
- 852
- 01:06:07,466 --> 01:06:10,177
- They ain't payin' me enough
- to stop you.
- 853
- 01:06:22,854 --> 01:06:26,318
- Did you find the transcript
- for Myers' first statement?
- 854
- 01:06:28,393 --> 01:06:30,153
- Thank you.
- 855
- 01:06:35,877 --> 01:06:37,656
- What?
- 856
- 01:06:45,234 --> 01:06:47,794
- <i>- I understand that, Sheriff...</i>
- - That's Myers.
- 857
- 01:06:48,037 --> 01:06:50,217
- <i>That's what I'm trying to tell you,</i>
- 858
- 01:06:50,673 --> 01:06:53,835
- <i>because I'm gonna be honest with you,
- I don't know a damn thing.</i>
- 859
- 01:06:54,677 --> 01:06:56,689
- <i>- Is that right?</i>
- - That's Tate.
- 860
- 01:06:56,854 --> 01:07:00,111
- <i>Yes, sir, it's righter
- than anything I've ever said.</i>
- 861
- 01:07:00,612 --> 01:07:03,215
- <i>And you would take
- a polygraph test to the fact</i>
- 862
- 01:07:03,380 --> 01:07:05,583
- <i>that you do not know
- who killed Ronda Morrison.</i>
- 863
- 01:07:05,748 --> 01:07:07,694
- <i>That's right, sir, I will.</i>
- 864
- 01:07:08,407 --> 01:07:10,961
- <i>Would face the person
- who came in here to testify--</i>
- 865
- 01:07:11,179 --> 01:07:15,930
- <i>I will face any damn body in this world
- on that, because it's a stone lie.</i>
- 866
- 01:07:16,142 --> 01:07:19,496
- <i>And if you askin' me
- to frame an innocent man for murder,</i>
- 867
- 01:07:19,711 --> 01:07:22,131
- <i>that just ain't somethin'
- I'm willin' to do.</i>
- 868
- 01:07:25,922 --> 01:07:27,748
- Holy shit.
- 869
- 01:07:57,177 --> 01:07:59,326
- Herb, you aight over there?
- 870
- 01:08:05,241 --> 01:08:07,556
- You gotta get to have
- your mind off tomorrow.
- 871
- 01:08:08,003 --> 01:08:11,222
- Bryan is working on that as we speak.
- 872
- 01:08:12,444 --> 01:08:15,460
- You know how these courts is,
- the wait till the last minute.
- 873
- 01:08:15,748 --> 01:08:17,828
- But you gonna get that stay.
- 874
- 01:08:18,703 --> 01:08:22,879
- - Why d-did I make that bomb?
- - Herb, don't go there, man.
- 875
- 01:08:23,054 --> 01:08:27,333
- Why did I do that?
- I wasn't tryin' to hurt nobody.
- 876
- 01:08:27,673 --> 01:08:29,083
- Herb, I know.
- 877
- 01:08:29,556 --> 01:08:33,696
- Why am I s-so s-stupid?
- 878
- 01:08:34,307 --> 01:08:35,692
- You ain't stupid.
- 879
- 01:08:35,745 --> 01:08:38,325
- That war got you sick,
- and you still sick.
- 880
- 01:08:38,744 --> 01:08:41,836
- Girl wasn't s-s-posed
- to come by and pick it up.
- 881
- 01:08:44,211 --> 01:08:46,134
- She w-wasn't s'posed to come by.
- 882
- 01:08:46,234 --> 01:08:49,265
- That's what we gonna do, Herb,
- we gonna slow your mind down.
- 883
- 01:08:49,535 --> 01:08:51,391
- Remember what we practiced now.
- 884
- 01:08:51,685 --> 01:08:53,914
- What we do?
- 885
- 01:08:54,220 --> 01:08:56,006
- Deep breaths.
- 886
- 01:08:56,697 --> 01:08:58,344
- Come on, do that with me now.
- 887
- 01:08:58,522 --> 01:09:00,170
- Deep breaths.
- 888
- 01:09:03,407 --> 01:09:05,147
- In and out.
- 889
- 01:09:09,352 --> 01:09:11,548
- Now in.
- 890
- 01:09:12,734 --> 01:09:14,638
- Now close your eyes.
- 891
- 01:09:15,821 --> 01:09:18,108
- Get away from all of this.
- 892
- 01:09:19,388 --> 01:09:23,341
- No more walls, no more guards,
- 893
- 01:09:25,050 --> 01:09:27,329
- no more wars to fight.
- 894
- 01:09:29,416 --> 01:09:31,568
- Just you, out in the open.
- 895
- 01:09:32,383 --> 01:09:34,723
- Fresh air on your face...
- 896
- 01:09:40,975 --> 01:09:43,492
- Look at them pine trees.
- 897
- 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,953
- They've been growin'
- since before we was born,
- 898
- 01:09:50,601 --> 01:09:53,322
- and they gonna keep growin'
- even after we gone.
- 899
- 01:09:56,551 --> 01:09:59,950
- And they have been through
- the same shit we have been through,
- 900
- 01:10:03,071 --> 01:10:05,903
- but they still dancing in the breeze.
- 901
- 01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:17,564
- Can you see 'em?
- 902
- 01:10:19,393 --> 01:10:20,682
- Yeah.
- 903
- 01:10:21,257 --> 01:10:22,875
- Good.
- 904
- 01:10:24,312 --> 01:10:26,687
- Now I want you
- to think about nothin' else,
- 905
- 01:10:26,832 --> 01:10:29,102
- just keep your mind on that.
- 906
- 01:10:29,667 --> 01:10:32,142
- Everythin' gonna be aight.
- 907
- 01:10:49,189 --> 01:10:53,102
- I need Strickland vs. Washington,
- and the affidavit from Herbert's Sergeant.
- 908
- 01:11:08,848 --> 01:11:10,485
- Let's send it.
- 909
- 01:11:17,313 --> 01:11:19,628
- Now what?
- 910
- 01:11:21,644 --> 01:11:23,363
- We wait.
- 911
- 01:11:43,681 --> 01:11:45,608
- EJI, this is Bryan Stevenson.
- 912
- 01:11:45,775 --> 01:11:51,302
- Mr. Stevenson, the court has just entered
- an order in case number 89-5395;
- 913
- 01:11:51,622 --> 01:11:54,890
- the motion for a stay of execution
- and petition for writ of certiorari
- 914
- 01:11:55,031 --> 01:11:56,662
- have been denied.
- 915
- 01:11:56,819 --> 01:11:59,963
- We'll fax copies of the order
- over to your office shortly.
- 916
- 01:12:01,894 --> 01:12:04,527
- - Thank you.
- - Thank you.
- 917
- 01:12:19,672 --> 01:12:21,856
- He asked me to be there.
- 918
- 01:12:24,282 --> 01:12:27,791
- Okay. I'll drive you down.
- 919
- 01:12:40,724 --> 01:12:43,760
- Come on, Herbert. We gotta go.
- 920
- 01:13:06,055 --> 01:13:09,018
- Can I say b-bye to my friends?
- 921
- 01:13:25,019 --> 01:13:27,578
- When it get too much for you,
- 922
- 01:13:28,835 --> 01:13:31,174
- you take them deep breaths
- 923
- 01:13:32,095 --> 01:13:34,226
- and let your mind go.
- 924
- 01:13:37,387 --> 01:13:40,586
- Wish I didn't have to d-do this alone.
- 925
- 01:13:42,967 --> 01:13:45,317
- You ain't by yourself, Herbert.
- 926
- 01:13:46,559 --> 01:13:48,550
- We all with you.
- 927
- 01:13:50,543 --> 01:13:52,389
- Ain't that right, Ray?
- 928
- 01:13:53,957 --> 01:13:57,526
- That's right, Herb.
- You ain't rid of us yet.
- 929
- 01:14:03,019 --> 01:14:05,860
- You've been a good friend.
- 930
- 01:14:49,288 --> 01:14:51,462
- First time in the chamber, huh?
- 931
- 01:14:52,663 --> 01:14:53,914
- Yeah.
- 932
- 01:14:53,962 --> 01:14:57,250
- Don't think too much,
- or you'll lose your shit.
- 933
- 01:15:08,708 --> 01:15:11,265
- You need anything, Mr. Richardson?
- 934
- 01:15:12,841 --> 01:15:15,079
- You still gonna play my song?
- 935
- 01:15:15,392 --> 01:15:17,580
- We got it cued up and ready.
- 936
- 01:15:19,262 --> 01:15:21,268
- Thank you.
- 937
- 01:15:33,555 --> 01:15:36,143
- It's been a strange day.
- 938
- 01:15:39,862 --> 01:15:44,325
- More p-people ask how they can help me
- today than ever asked in my whole life.
- 939
- 01:15:51,474 --> 01:15:53,776
- Do I look funny?
- 940
- 01:15:55,393 --> 01:15:59,918
- I ain't know they was gonna
- s-s-shave off everything.
- 941
- 01:16:02,393 --> 01:16:04,307
- You look fine.
- 942
- 01:16:16,707 --> 01:16:19,427
- Most people d-don't get to sit
- 943
- 01:16:19,577 --> 01:16:24,117
- and think all day about
- it being their last day alive.
- 944
- 01:16:26,642 --> 01:16:28,806
- It's different than Nam.
- 945
- 01:16:30,020 --> 01:16:32,547
- At least I had a chance there.
- 946
- 01:16:39,095 --> 01:16:41,059
- I'm sorry.
- 947
- 01:16:45,626 --> 01:16:50,094
- You're the only one
- c-cared enough to fight for me.
- 948
- 01:16:54,738 --> 01:16:57,690
- Since I don't have family
- 949
- 01:16:57,866 --> 01:17:01,618
- I t-told the Army to send
- my flag to you, if that's okay.
- 950
- 01:17:06,809 --> 01:17:08,833
- I'd be honored.
- 951
- 01:17:17,513 --> 01:17:20,107
- Can you pray with me?
- 952
- 01:17:23,453 --> 01:17:25,437
- Of course.
- 953
- 01:17:35,341 --> 01:17:37,106
- They're ready.
- 954
- 01:18:28,396 --> 01:18:30,520
- You, Herbert Lee Richardson,
- 955
- 01:18:30,940 --> 01:18:34,066
- shall be put to death by electrocution
- in the state of Alabama
- 956
- 01:18:34,502 --> 01:18:37,425
- as ordered and agreed by judge, jury--
- 957
- 01:18:37,471 --> 01:18:41,943
- for the murder of Rena Mae Callins
- on August 16th, 1977.
- 958
- 01:18:45,305 --> 01:18:50,381
- Mr. Richardson, do you have
- any final words you'd like to say?
- 959
- 01:19:01,367 --> 01:19:05,208
- I have no ill feeling,
- 960
- 01:19:06,633 --> 01:19:09,778
- and I hold nothing against anyone.
- 961
- 01:20:22,924 --> 01:20:24,530
- We with you, Herb!
- 962
- 01:20:24,899 --> 01:20:25,992
- We all with you!
- 963
- 01:20:26,178 --> 01:20:28,142
- We love you, Herb!
- 964
- 01:20:53,288 --> 01:20:55,632
- We love you, Herb!
- 965
- 01:21:49,540 --> 01:21:51,101
- Hey.
- 966
- 01:23:10,955 --> 01:23:15,779
- I hope this important news of yours comes
- with some food, 'cause I'm starvin'.
- 967
- 01:23:16,389 --> 01:23:18,261
- Sit down, Mr. Myers.
- 968
- 01:23:21,256 --> 01:23:23,670
- You was a lot nicer the last time.
- 969
- 01:23:28,345 --> 01:23:31,862
- I heard the recording of the first
- statement you gave on June 3rd.
- 970
- 01:23:32,819 --> 01:23:35,352
- The one they didn't present in court.
- 971
- 01:23:37,098 --> 01:23:41,425
- You told the Sheriff you didn't know
- anything about Johnny D or the murder.
- 972
- 01:23:42,313 --> 01:23:45,045
- You told him you didn't wanna
- frame an innocent man.
- 973
- 01:23:45,194 --> 01:23:47,076
- Do you remember saying that?
- 974
- 01:23:48,708 --> 01:23:50,133
- What I'm wondering, is how do you go
- 975
- 01:23:50,271 --> 01:23:52,946
- from knowing nothing
- about the murder on June 3rd,
- 976
- 01:23:53,086 --> 01:23:56,225
- to becoming the State's
- key witness three months later?
- 977
- 01:23:56,570 --> 01:23:58,630
- What changed your mind?
- 978
- 01:24:11,064 --> 01:24:12,832
- What's that?
- 979
- 01:24:13,116 --> 01:24:15,637
- Intake log from Holman Prison.
- 980
- 01:24:17,224 --> 01:24:22,009
- On August 1, 1987, Sheriff Tate
- transferred two inmates
- 981
- 01:24:22,241 --> 01:24:25,506
- from county jail to death row.
- 982
- 01:24:26,657 --> 01:24:28,613
- Johnny D...
- 983
- 01:24:31,735 --> 01:24:33,528
- and you.
- 984
- 01:24:40,321 --> 01:24:43,875
- Did they move you to death row
- because you wouldn't testify against him?
- 985
- 01:24:49,350 --> 01:24:53,725
- They executed Wayne Ritter a few weeks
- after you got there. Isn't that right?
- 986
- 01:24:56,532 --> 01:25:00,849
- I was in the witness room when they killed
- Herbert Richardson Thursday night.
- 987
- 01:25:01,942 --> 01:25:06,666
- It was the most horrific thing
- I've ever experienced.
- 988
- 01:25:10,521 --> 01:25:14,123
- I'm sure Ritter's execution
- wasn't easy for you, either.
- 989
- 01:25:31,514 --> 01:25:35,388
- They put me in the cell
- closest to the kill room.
- 990
- 01:25:37,959 --> 01:25:42,654
- Middle of the night, everybody
- started screamin', bangin' on the bars.
- 991
- 01:25:44,073 --> 01:25:46,040
- And then...
- 992
- 01:25:49,786 --> 01:25:53,268
- Then come the smell of his skin burnin'.
- 993
- 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,613
- I know that smell.
- 994
- 01:26:05,288 --> 01:26:07,672
- May I ask you what happened?
- 995
- 01:26:11,778 --> 01:26:13,858
- Seven years old.
- 996
- 01:26:16,225 --> 01:26:20,068
- I was sleepin' in my foster mom's basement
- when her heater blowed up,
- 997
- 01:26:20,241 --> 01:26:22,807
- catched my PJs on fire.
- 998
- 01:26:23,790 --> 01:26:27,173
- I screamed for two minutes straight
- before they found me.
- 999
- 01:26:31,146 --> 01:26:35,915
- Everybody knowed that I got a fear
- of bein' burned.
- 1000
- 01:26:36,409 --> 01:26:41,496
- They knowed what it would do
- to my head to be in a place like that.
- 1001
- 01:26:43,631 --> 01:26:46,997
- I couldn't stop shaking all night.
- 1002
- 01:26:47,984 --> 01:26:50,628
- Curled up on the floor like a baby,
- 1003
- 01:26:51,460 --> 01:26:54,512
- tryin' to breathe,
- but every breath you take just...
- 1004
- 01:26:56,086 --> 01:26:59,084
- give you another taste
- of the man they killed.
- 1005
- 01:27:02,496 --> 01:27:07,214
- You can't go through somethin' like that
- and come out the same.
- 1006
- 01:27:12,552 --> 01:27:14,474
- I know.
- 1007
- 01:27:19,261 --> 01:27:22,094
- I called that Sheriff
- the next morning, I told him...
- 1008
- 01:27:22,778 --> 01:27:26,938
- I would say whatever
- he wanted to get me out.
- 1009
- 01:27:27,858 --> 01:27:29,661
- He took my statement.
- 1010
- 01:27:30,262 --> 01:27:32,676
- Moved me to county the next day.
- 1011
- 01:27:37,334 --> 01:27:39,399
- Mr. Myers, we're going to court very soon
- 1012
- 01:27:39,544 --> 01:27:42,525
- to try to get Johnny D
- the retrial he deserves.
- 1013
- 01:27:42,898 --> 01:27:45,335
- And I'd like you to take the stand.
- 1014
- 01:27:50,208 --> 01:27:52,020
- No, sir. No, sir.
- 1015
- 01:27:52,218 --> 01:27:53,963
- They're using you...
- 1016
- 01:27:54,540 --> 01:27:56,094
- They're using you to condemn a man
- 1017
- 01:27:56,276 --> 01:27:59,198
- that you have much more
- in common with than you think.
- 1018
- 01:27:59,820 --> 01:28:02,115
- And if there's any part of you
- that wants to make things right,
- 1019
- 01:28:02,115 --> 01:28:04,905
- this is the last chance you gonna get.
- 1020
- 01:28:13,879 --> 01:28:17,952
- The tension is high this morning here
- at the Baldwin County Courthouse,
- 1021
- 01:28:18,076 --> 01:28:19,640
- where a hearing is being held to see
- 1022
- 01:28:19,793 --> 01:28:24,324
- if the man convicted of killing
- Ronda Morrison deserves a new trial.
- 1023
- 01:28:24,510 --> 01:28:27,006
- Miss Morrison was only 18 years old
- 1024
- 01:28:27,146 --> 01:28:30,809
- when she was murdered at
- Jackson Cleaners in Monroeville, Alabama.
- 1025
- 01:28:31,153 --> 01:28:36,240
- Many have taken the two-hour drive here
- from Monroeville to show their support.
- 1026
- 01:28:36,376 --> 01:28:38,840
- Extra security precautions
- were implemented
- 1027
- 01:28:38,978 --> 01:28:42,142
- due to the highly emotional nature
- of this case.
- 1028
- 01:28:45,516 --> 01:28:48,058
- Ronda Morrison's parents said
- they have no doubt
- 1029
- 01:28:48,197 --> 01:28:52,057
- Mr. McMillian is the man responsible
- for the murder of their daughter.
- 1030
- 01:28:52,284 --> 01:28:56,112
- But members of McMillian's family
- claim they have the wrong man.
- 1031
- 01:28:56,272 --> 01:28:59,969
- Much of today's hearing is hinging
- on the testimony of Ralph Myers,
- 1032
- 01:29:00,176 --> 01:29:03,394
- a convicted felon, who was
- the key witness against McMillian
- 1033
- 01:29:03,552 --> 01:29:05,248
- in the original trial.
- 1034
- 01:29:34,055 --> 01:29:38,395
- What we'll be talking about today
- is obviously an emotional issue.
- 1035
- 01:29:38,900 --> 01:29:41,363
- And if any of y'all
- don't think you can maintain
- 1036
- 01:29:41,513 --> 01:29:46,655
- a reasonable degree of decorum,
- then I would ask you to leave now.
- 1037
- 01:29:51,322 --> 01:29:54,885
- All right, if we are ready,
- then, we will proceed.
- 1038
- 01:29:56,791 --> 01:29:58,748
- Mr. Stevenson?
- 1039
- 01:29:58,952 --> 01:30:00,838
- Thank you, Your Honor.
- 1040
- 01:30:11,686 --> 01:30:13,424
- The State's case
- against Walter McMillian
- 1041
- 01:30:13,557 --> 01:30:16,274
- turned entirely on the testimony
- of Ralph Myers.
- 1042
- 01:30:16,417 --> 01:30:19,380
- It was no other evidence
- to establish Mr. McMillian's guilt.
- 1043
- 01:30:19,507 --> 01:30:23,879
- No physical evidence linking him
- to the crime, no motive, no witnesses.
- 1044
- 01:30:24,036 --> 01:30:26,089
- Only the word of one man.
- 1045
- 01:30:28,287 --> 01:30:31,047
- We call Ralph Myers to the stand.
- 1046
- 01:30:55,664 --> 01:30:58,581
- Sir, please stand and place
- your right hand on the Bible.
- 1047
- 01:31:01,405 --> 01:31:02,975
- Do you swear to tell the truth,
- the whole truth,
- 1048
- 01:31:02,975 --> 01:31:05,466
- and nothing but the truth,
- so help you God?
- 1049
- 01:31:07,136 --> 01:31:08,896
- Mr. Myers?
- 1050
- 01:31:09,076 --> 01:31:11,390
- Oh, yes. Sorry.
- 1051
- 01:31:11,833 --> 01:31:15,239
- Guards got me up at about
- two in the morning to get me out here.
- 1052
- 01:31:27,782 --> 01:31:32,096
- Mr. Myers, did you testify against
- Walter McMillian in August of 1988?
- 1053
- 01:31:33,013 --> 01:31:35,096
- Is that when that was?
- 1054
- 01:31:35,879 --> 01:31:38,023
- According to the record, yes.
- 1055
- 01:31:39,142 --> 01:31:41,752
- Okay, then. Sure, if you say so.
- 1056
- 01:31:45,186 --> 01:31:47,929
- And what did you say to the jury
- when you testified?
- 1057
- 01:31:53,056 --> 01:31:58,588
- Don't think I can fully remember, sir,
- to be honest with you. Sorry.
- 1058
- 01:32:00,219 --> 01:32:01,449
- That's quite all right.
- 1059
- 01:32:01,574 --> 01:32:04,056
- I have a transcript
- of your testimony right here.
- 1060
- 01:32:16,732 --> 01:32:19,682
- At the trial, do you remember
- testifying that you were unwillingly
- 1061
- 01:32:19,838 --> 01:32:23,520
- made part of a capital murder
- and robbery on November 1, 1986,
- 1062
- 01:32:23,816 --> 01:32:26,084
- when Walter McMillian
- saw you at a car wash
- 1063
- 01:32:26,225 --> 01:32:29,171
- and asked you to drive his truck
- because his arm hurt?
- 1064
- 01:32:30,307 --> 01:32:32,233
- Yes, sir. I guess so.
- 1065
- 01:32:32,525 --> 01:32:36,265
- Do you remember saying that you drove
- Mr. McMillian to Jackson Cleaners,
- 1066
- 01:32:36,561 --> 01:32:40,456
- subsequently went into the building,
- and saw McMillian with a gun,
- 1067
- 01:32:40,608 --> 01:32:43,616
- standing over the body of Ronda Morrison?
- 1068
- 01:32:45,239 --> 01:32:46,827
- Yes, sir.
- 1069
- 01:32:48,187 --> 01:32:52,497
- Mr. Myers, was the testimony that you
- gave at Walter McMillian's trial true?
- 1070
- 01:33:03,013 --> 01:33:05,178
- I don't know.
- 1071
- 01:33:07,510 --> 01:33:09,241
- You don't know?
- 1072
- 01:33:12,352 --> 01:33:14,421
- I don't think I remember.
- 1073
- 01:33:36,495 --> 01:33:38,207
- Mr. Myers.
- 1074
- 01:33:38,624 --> 01:33:41,344
- Do you know who Walter McMillian is?
- 1075
- 01:33:43,096 --> 01:33:44,733
- Yes, sir.
- 1076
- 01:33:45,846 --> 01:33:47,903
- Is he in this room?
- 1077
- 01:33:48,706 --> 01:33:50,309
- Yes, sir.
- 1078
- 01:33:54,248 --> 01:33:56,279
- Could you point him out for us?
- 1079
- 01:34:19,783 --> 01:34:22,286
- I'd like to ask you that question
- one more time.
- 1080
- 01:34:23,407 --> 01:34:28,148
- Was the testimony that you gave
- at Walter McMillian's trial true?
- 1081
- 01:34:37,368 --> 01:34:40,527
- No, sir, not at all.
- 1082
- 01:34:40,693 --> 01:34:42,494
- Order, please!
- 1083
- 01:34:42,956 --> 01:34:46,128
- Did you see Mr. McMillian on the day
- Ronda Morrison was murdered?
- 1084
- 01:34:46,286 --> 01:34:47,344
- No, sir.
- 1085
- 01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,972
- Did you drive his truck
- to Monroeville that day?
- 1086
- 01:34:50,144 --> 01:34:51,869
- No. Never did.
- 1087
- 01:34:52,019 --> 01:34:54,340
- Did you go into Jackson Cleaners
- and see Mr. McMillian
- 1088
- 01:34:54,481 --> 01:34:57,384
- standing over the body of Ronda Morrison?
- 1089
- 01:34:57,839 --> 01:35:00,037
- Absolutely not.
- 1090
- 01:35:03,712 --> 01:35:05,452
- Thank you.
- 1091
- 01:35:06,434 --> 01:35:08,932
- No further questions, Your Honor.
- 1092
- 01:35:13,824 --> 01:35:15,452
- Mr. Myers,
- 1093
- 01:35:15,937 --> 01:35:19,716
- how do we know you ain't upset
- with a deal you've got
- 1094
- 01:35:19,858 --> 01:35:22,177
- and you feel like, something, how about,
- 1095
- 01:35:22,597 --> 01:35:26,800
- a change in your story
- might help to get you out?
- 1096
- 01:35:28,355 --> 01:35:31,160
- Because that just
- don't make no sense, sir.
- 1097
- 01:35:32,084 --> 01:35:35,475
- Who do you think is decidin'
- what happens to me?
- 1098
- 01:35:35,625 --> 01:35:37,763
- If I live or die?
- 1099
- 01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:42,943
- It ain't me. It ain't Johnny D.
- It's all y'all that decidin' that.
- 1100
- 01:35:43,122 --> 01:35:46,661
- So, how is me sayin' what I'm sayin'
- gonna help to get me out?
- 1101
- 01:35:46,811 --> 01:35:49,418
- If anything, it's gonna help
- get me to death row.
- 1102
- 01:35:51,402 --> 01:35:53,007
- But I don't care.
- 1103
- 01:35:53,143 --> 01:35:55,448
- Y'all can do what you want with me.
- 1104
- 01:35:56,047 --> 01:35:57,629
- 'Cause me...
- 1105
- 01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:01,787
- I can look in your face,
- or anybody else's face,
- 1106
- 01:36:01,947 --> 01:36:03,412
- dead eye to eyeball
- 1107
- 01:36:03,584 --> 01:36:07,577
- and say that anything
- I told about Mr. McMillian
- 1108
- 01:36:09,011 --> 01:36:11,009
- was a lie.
- 1109
- 01:36:11,939 --> 01:36:13,989
- He's here 'cause of me.
- 1110
- 01:36:17,060 --> 01:36:21,697
- And I sure would appreciate you sending
- him home to his kids where he belongs.
- 1111
- 01:36:26,971 --> 01:36:29,614
- We submit a copy of the official
- log from the police officer
- 1112
- 01:36:29,771 --> 01:36:31,889
- who stopped by the fish fry,
- confirming Walter McMillian
- 1113
- 01:36:32,024 --> 01:36:33,822
- was there with his family.
- 1114
- 01:36:34,107 --> 01:36:37,827
- Mr. Myers said that the body
- was face-up near the front counter,
- 1115
- 01:36:38,466 --> 01:36:42,333
- but I found her face-down
- in the back by the bathroom.
- 1116
- 01:36:42,928 --> 01:36:45,334
- Submitting exculpatory records
- from Ralph Myers' stay
- 1117
- 01:36:45,482 --> 01:36:47,630
- at Taylor Hardin Psychiatric Hospital,
- 1118
- 01:36:47,630 --> 01:36:50,807
- which the State did not disclose
- to defense counsel.
- 1119
- 01:36:51,904 --> 01:36:54,147
- Mr. Myers was my patient at the time,
- 1120
- 01:36:54,295 --> 01:36:56,459
- and he claimed on numerous occasions
- 1121
- 01:36:56,677 --> 01:36:59,120
- that he was being threatened
- with the electric chair
- 1122
- 01:36:59,241 --> 01:37:02,120
- if he didn't say what
- the authorities wanted to hear.
- 1123
- 01:37:02,446 --> 01:37:06,451
- The prosecutor asked me to testify
- that she had been drugged
- 1124
- 01:37:06,567 --> 01:37:08,103
- from the front to the back,
- 1125
- 01:37:08,271 --> 01:37:10,859
- and I told him
- I ain't gonna lie in court.
- 1126
- 01:37:11,958 --> 01:37:16,358
- And then, few weeks later,
- I got fired from the department.
- 1127
- 01:37:18,404 --> 01:37:20,302
- All the evidence presented today
- 1128
- 01:37:20,469 --> 01:37:23,006
- would've been critical
- to the outcome of this case,
- 1129
- 01:37:23,202 --> 01:37:26,387
- and its exclusion is a clear violation
- of Brady vs. Maryland,
- 1130
- 01:37:26,588 --> 01:37:29,075
- and Mr. McMillian's constitutional rights.
- 1131
- 01:37:29,576 --> 01:37:32,027
- The truth has not been told in this case.
- 1132
- 01:37:32,254 --> 01:37:34,534
- And I understand
- a lot of time has gone by,
- 1133
- 01:37:35,735 --> 01:37:38,898
- but I personally believe
- that it's never too late for justice.
- 1134
- 01:37:39,769 --> 01:37:43,843
- We ask the court to grant our motion
- and order a new trial for Mr. McMillian.
- 1135
- 01:37:45,592 --> 01:37:47,450
- Thank you, Your Honor.
- 1136
- 01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,964
- Thank you, Counselors.
- We'll reconvene at a later date
- 1137
- 01:37:53,127 --> 01:37:55,628
- once I've had time
- to look through everything.
- 1138
- 01:37:56,610 --> 01:37:58,722
- All rise!
- 1139
- 01:38:03,786 --> 01:38:06,347
- Teddy shoes, I didn't think
- he was gonna go through with it.
- 1140
- 01:38:06,553 --> 01:38:09,741
- Honestly, for a second there,
- I didn't think so, either.
- 1141
- 01:38:14,789 --> 01:38:17,529
- I can't even tell you
- how I feel right now.
- 1142
- 01:38:20,235 --> 01:38:21,977
- Thank you.
- 1143
- 01:38:31,699 --> 01:38:34,463
- We got a few minutes
- if y'all wanna say hi.
- 1144
- 01:38:42,916 --> 01:38:44,492
- We'll leave in five minutes.
- 1145
- 01:38:44,834 --> 01:38:46,414
- What's up, old man?
- 1146
- 01:38:47,042 --> 01:38:49,348
- - You did great.
- - Thank you.
- 1147
- 01:38:50,012 --> 01:38:51,642
- Chapman oughta call you
- tonight and tell you
- 1148
- 01:38:51,783 --> 01:38:53,127
- that he's dropping all the charges.
- 1149
- 01:38:53,271 --> 01:38:55,214
- Yeah, I won't hold my breath.
- 1150
- 01:39:04,630 --> 01:39:06,810
- Upon the reading of my decision,
- 1151
- 01:39:07,038 --> 01:39:11,060
- I expect the rules of decorum
- in this courtroom to be upheld.
- 1152
- 01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:19,597
- Ralph Myers took the stand
- before this court, swore to tell the truth,
- 1153
- 01:39:19,894 --> 01:39:22,507
- and proceeded to recant most, if not all,
- 1154
- 01:39:22,692 --> 01:39:26,164
- of the relevant portions
- of his testimony at trial.
- 1155
- 01:39:26,776 --> 01:39:31,742
- Clearly, he has either perjured himself
- at trial or in front of this court.
- 1156
- 01:39:33,294 --> 01:39:36,131
- After careful review,
- it is this court's opinion
- 1157
- 01:39:36,298 --> 01:39:39,640
- that conclusive evidence
- has not been provided
- 1158
- 01:39:39,784 --> 01:39:43,322
- that Ralph Myers perjured himself
- at the original trial,
- 1159
- 01:39:43,516 --> 01:39:47,223
- and that pressure put on him
- since his trial testimony
- 1160
- 01:39:47,348 --> 01:39:50,495
- could tend to discredit his recantation.
- 1161
- 01:39:51,227 --> 01:39:54,701
- Therefore, it is ordered,
- adjudged, and decreed
- 1162
- 01:39:54,861 --> 01:39:57,171
- that the trial testimony of Ralph Myers
- 1163
- 01:39:57,334 --> 01:40:00,472
- is not found to have been
- perjured testimony,
- 1164
- 01:40:00,695 --> 01:40:03,721
- and no new trial
- shall be granted at this time.
- 1165
- 01:40:04,537 --> 01:40:07,878
- Walter McMillian shall be returned
- to Holman Correctional Facility
- 1166
- 01:40:08,042 --> 01:40:11,356
- where he is to face death
- by electrocution.
- 1167
- 01:40:26,104 --> 01:40:28,045
- You can't do this to us again, Judge.
- 1168
- 01:40:28,244 --> 01:40:31,081
- - Sit down, young man.
- - That's my dad, sir.
- 1169
- 01:40:31,636 --> 01:40:34,120
- - I want you sit down now.
- - He ain't do nothin' wrong.
- 1170
- 01:40:34,193 --> 01:40:36,018
- Listen to your father. Not here.
- 1171
- 01:40:36,153 --> 01:40:37,313
- He ain't do nothin' wrong.
- 1172
- 01:40:37,413 --> 01:40:40,561
- Sit down right now, or you'll be
- arrested for contempt to court.
- 1173
- 01:40:40,744 --> 01:40:42,973
- Judge, just give me one second,
- please, Judge. Hold on. One second.
- 1174
- 01:40:43,031 --> 01:40:43,834
- Sit down, John.
- 1175
- 01:40:43,982 --> 01:40:46,151
- I won't say it again. Sit down!
- 1176
- 01:40:46,291 --> 01:40:48,418
- Not if you gonna kill
- my dad for no reason...
- 1177
- 01:40:48,779 --> 01:40:51,560
- Not if you gonna kill
- my dad for no reason!
- 1178
- 01:40:51,693 --> 01:40:53,601
- He ain't do nothin' wrong!
- 1179
- 01:40:54,119 --> 01:40:55,995
- You're killing my family, Sir!
- 1180
- 01:40:56,740 --> 01:40:58,999
- You're killing my family, Sir! You!
- 1181
- 01:41:04,890 --> 01:41:06,140
- John!
- 1182
- 01:41:06,668 --> 01:41:08,415
- Judge, he's not resisting!
- 1183
- 01:41:09,968 --> 01:41:11,934
- Do not resist it.
- 1184
- 01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,302
- Don't you let them get to you.
- 1185
- 01:41:37,497 --> 01:41:39,575
- It's gonna be all right.
- 1186
- 01:42:01,488 --> 01:42:03,857
- Come on, man,
- don't make this hard.
- 1187
- 01:42:10,098 --> 01:42:11,465
- Come on.
- 1188
- 01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:13,757
- Don't do this, McMillian!
- 1189
- 01:42:15,572 --> 01:42:17,148
- Let him go!
- 1190
- 01:42:20,907 --> 01:42:22,879
- Let Johnny D go!
- 1191
- 01:42:29,307 --> 01:42:31,000
- Relax! Relax!
- 1192
- 01:42:33,361 --> 01:42:35,411
- - Give me your arms!
- - Give me the cuffs.
- 1193
- 01:42:36,802 --> 01:42:38,325
- Relax.
- 1194
- 01:44:53,335 --> 01:44:56,446
- Nobody wants to remember
- that this is where thousands
- 1195
- 01:44:56,615 --> 01:44:59,094
- of enslaved people were shipped in
- 1196
- 01:44:59,293 --> 01:45:01,993
- and then paraded up the street to be sold.
- 1197
- 01:45:04,676 --> 01:45:08,777
- Just ten miles from here, black people
- were pulled from their homes and lynched.
- 1198
- 01:45:09,582 --> 01:45:11,669
- Nobody talks about it.
- 1199
- 01:45:15,528 --> 01:45:18,781
- And now this black boy from Delaware
- walks into their courtrooms,
- 1200
- 01:45:18,903 --> 01:45:22,882
- and expects them to admit
- they convicted an innocent black man.
- 1201
- 01:45:26,491 --> 01:45:29,698
- I promised that whole community
- I was gonna bring him home.
- 1202
- 01:45:34,157 --> 01:45:36,460
- And I just made things worse.
- 1203
- 01:45:45,299 --> 01:45:46,927
- I've heard a lot of lawyers say
- 1204
- 01:45:47,281 --> 01:45:50,229
- it's not a good idea
- to get close to your clients.
- 1205
- 01:45:51,229 --> 01:45:53,195
- Distance is healthy.
- 1206
- 01:45:56,715 --> 01:45:59,934
- But working with you
- showed me that that's bullshit.
- 1207
- 01:46:02,078 --> 01:46:05,209
- You choose to get close
- to every one of them,
- 1208
- 01:46:05,968 --> 01:46:08,636
- and you love them
- like they are your family.
- 1209
- 01:46:10,311 --> 01:46:13,354
- And when your family
- is hurting, you're hurting.
- 1210
- 01:46:19,186 --> 01:46:21,497
- There is no way that I could
- fully understand
- 1211
- 01:46:21,644 --> 01:46:23,956
- what it is that you're going through.
- 1212
- 01:46:27,535 --> 01:46:29,474
- But I am pretty sure that...
- 1213
- 01:46:29,627 --> 01:46:32,624
- you mean a lot more to this community
- than you think.
- 1214
- 01:47:37,892 --> 01:47:40,295
- Walter, I'm so sorry.
- 1215
- 01:47:46,903 --> 01:47:50,219
- The day I got arrested,
- I thought I was gonna be okay.
- 1216
- 01:47:51,738 --> 01:47:53,877
- 'Cause I got the truth.
- 1217
- 01:47:58,001 --> 01:48:02,428
- Soon as they talk to everybody that
- was with me, they gonna have to let me go.
- 1218
- 01:48:07,304 --> 01:48:10,157
- Then, the police keep callin' you a killer.
- 1219
- 01:48:12,676 --> 01:48:17,216
- Some white dude
- say he saw you do it.
- 1220
- 01:48:20,394 --> 01:48:22,937
- News people sayin' you did it.
- 1221
- 01:48:24,430 --> 01:48:28,214
- Judge and jury sayin' you did it.
- 1222
- 01:48:31,208 --> 01:48:33,171
- Now you on the row...
- 1223
- 01:48:37,037 --> 01:48:39,319
- Two, three, four years...
- 1224
- 01:48:39,764 --> 01:48:43,325
- Your friends and your kids...
- They ain't callin' you like they used to.
- 1225
- 01:48:45,564 --> 01:48:50,142
- After a while, you start wondering
- what they think about you.
- 1226
- 01:48:51,514 --> 01:48:54,273
- You start wondering
- what you think about you.
- 1227
- 01:49:00,339 --> 01:49:02,755
- Truth ain't so clear no more.
- 1228
- 01:49:07,902 --> 01:49:10,103
- But the last few days...
- 1229
- 01:49:10,632 --> 01:49:13,421
- I can't stop thinkin'
- 'bout Myers up there
- 1230
- 01:49:13,836 --> 01:49:16,771
- tellin' everybody how it went down.
- 1231
- 01:49:20,697 --> 01:49:24,539
- That's the first time I feel like myself
- since I've been locked up.
- 1232
- 01:49:27,062 --> 01:49:29,839
- First time I remembered who I is.
- 1233
- 01:49:38,660 --> 01:49:41,244
- These fools gonna do
- what they gonna do.
- 1234
- 01:49:44,744 --> 01:49:47,774
- But if they take me
- to that chair tonight,
- 1235
- 01:49:50,569 --> 01:49:52,792
- I'm going out smilin',
- 1236
- 01:49:55,651 --> 01:49:58,169
- 'cause I got my truth back.
- 1237
- 01:50:02,455 --> 01:50:04,946
- You gave it to me.
- 1238
- 01:50:07,322 --> 01:50:09,504
- To me and my family.
- 1239
- 01:50:12,141 --> 01:50:15,059
- And ain't nobody
- gonna take that from us.
- 1240
- 01:50:24,391 --> 01:50:26,904
- You ain't quittin', is you?
- 1241
- 01:50:30,363 --> 01:50:32,570
- No, sir!
- 1242
- 01:50:38,785 --> 01:50:42,194
- Then there ain't no reason
- for you to say you're sorry.
- 1243
- 01:50:49,169 --> 01:50:52,296
- I know how disappointing
- the last hearing was,
- 1244
- 01:50:53,466 --> 01:50:55,876
- but that's not where this is gonna end.
- 1245
- 01:50:56,379 --> 01:50:58,222
- We're preparing a motion
- to submit our evidence
- 1246
- 01:50:58,362 --> 01:51:00,996
- to the State Supreme Court in Montgomery.
- 1247
- 01:51:00,996 --> 01:51:03,177
- They have the power
- to reverse the last decision
- 1248
- 01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:06,032
- and force the circuit court
- to give us a new trial.
- 1249
- 01:51:06,933 --> 01:51:08,655
- You think they'll do that?
- 1250
- 01:51:08,817 --> 01:51:10,581
- Nothing's guaranteed.
- 1251
- 01:51:11,071 --> 01:51:15,086
- But I can't see how an outside court
- can ignore the evidence that we have.
- 1252
- 01:51:16,521 --> 01:51:18,222
- And then what?
- 1253
- 01:51:19,025 --> 01:51:23,042
- Even if he do get out there, everybody
- but us still gonna think he guilty.
- 1254
- 01:51:23,367 --> 01:51:26,700
- If they can't kill 'im in there,
- they can still do it out here.
- 1255
- 01:51:27,461 --> 01:51:29,714
- We've been worried about that, too,
- 1256
- 01:51:29,854 --> 01:51:32,827
- and we're working on something
- to help get the truth out.
- 1257
- 01:51:39,068 --> 01:51:41,724
- We're rolling. Whenever
- you're ready, Mr. Bradley.
- 1258
- 01:51:42,223 --> 01:51:44,691
- Okay, Bryan, you ready?
- 1259
- 01:51:45,140 --> 01:51:46,648
- I am.
- 1260
- 01:51:50,754 --> 01:51:54,719
- <i>His name is Walter McMillian,
- known to his friends as Johnny D,</i>
- 1261
- 01:51:54,851 --> 01:51:57,242
- <i>and he's been on death row
- in Alabama's Holman Prison</i>
- 1262
- 01:51:57,424 --> 01:51:59,310
- <i>for almost six years.</i>
- 1263
- 01:51:59,625 --> 01:52:02,341
- <i>A jury was convinced
- they got the right man.</i>
- 1264
- 01:52:02,517 --> 01:52:05,444
- <i>But you may not be
- after you watch this story.</i>
- 1265
- 01:52:07,729 --> 01:52:09,606
- <i>Turn that up! I can't hear it.</i>
- 1266
- 01:52:09,870 --> 01:52:13,433
- <i>Johnny D says they want
- to execute the wrong man.</i>
- 1267
- 01:52:13,578 --> 01:52:15,009
- <i>You didn't kill Ronda Morrison?</i>
- 1268
- 01:52:15,140 --> 01:52:18,712
- <i>No, sir, I never seen Ronda Morrison
- a day in my life. God knows I ain't.</i>
- 1269
- 01:52:18,982 --> 01:52:21,656
- <i>Did you ever go into Monroeville
- on the day of the murder?</i>
- 1270
- 01:52:21,804 --> 01:52:22,241
- <i>No, sir.</i>
- 1271
- 01:52:22,266 --> 01:52:23,577
- <i>You never went to--</i>
- 1272
- 01:52:23,704 --> 01:52:25,735
- <i>Never went to Monroeville period.</i>
- 1273
- 01:52:25,912 --> 01:52:30,563
- <i>I told them I had seen a young girl
- laying on the floor with her mouth open.</i>
- 1274
- 01:52:30,729 --> 01:52:32,812
- <i>Johnny D standing over her.</i>
- 1275
- 01:52:32,937 --> 01:52:34,454
- <i>Was it true?</i>
- 1276
- 01:52:34,641 --> 01:52:37,349
- <i>No, sir, not at all.
- Nowhere near true.</i>
- 1277
- 01:52:38,196 --> 01:52:41,051
- <i>If an execution date is set for McMillian,</i>
- 1278
- 01:52:41,189 --> 01:52:45,201
- <i>and that day comes and it's time
- for him to go to the electric chair,</i>
- 1279
- 01:52:45,472 --> 01:52:46,896
- <i>would you be comfortable?</i>
- 1280
- 01:52:47,043 --> 01:52:50,381
- <i>Yes... I'd be comfortable with it.</i>
- 1281
- 01:52:51,036 --> 01:52:53,770
- <i>Do you think it's, fair,
- just, he had his--</i>
- 1282
- 01:52:53,917 --> 01:52:55,663
- <i>He had his day in court.</i>
- 1283
- 01:52:56,024 --> 01:53:00,045
- <i>He was tried by a jury, they heard
- the testimony and they believed it.</i>
- 1284
- 01:53:00,550 --> 01:53:04,097
- <i>Chapman says he's going to
- indict Myers for perjury,</i>
- 1285
- 01:53:04,227 --> 01:53:08,469
- <i>not for what he said at the trial,
- but for what he's saying now.</i>
- 1286
- 01:53:08,712 --> 01:53:11,815
- Next we'll be presenting our evidence
- to the Alabama Supreme Court,
- 1287
- 01:53:11,984 --> 01:53:14,390
- hoping they'll see
- what we think is very clear,
- 1288
- 01:53:14,777 --> 01:53:16,754
- that Walter McMillian is innocent.
- 1289
- 01:53:16,963 --> 01:53:21,233
- <i>McMillian's fate is now in the hands
- of the Alabama Supreme Court,</i>
- 1290
- 01:53:21,374 --> 01:53:25,973
- <i>which is expected to decide soon
- if he's entitled to a new trial.</i>
- 1291
- 01:53:30,881 --> 01:53:33,210
- EJI, this is Brenda.
- 1292
- 01:53:36,805 --> 01:53:38,912
- Okay, I'll let him know. Thank you.
- 1293
- 01:53:42,181 --> 01:53:46,325
- The Supreme Court's ruling in the
- McMillian case is ready to be picked up.
- 1294
- 01:53:50,900 --> 01:53:52,372
- I'll be back.
- 1295
- 01:54:13,899 --> 01:54:15,951
- A wave of shock rolled through
- Monroe County today
- 1296
- 01:54:16,090 --> 01:54:19,878
- when the Alabama Supreme Court overturned
- the circuit court's previous decision
- 1297
- 01:54:20,042 --> 01:54:24,095
- and granted a new trial to convicted
- killer Walter 'Johnny D' McMillian.
- 1298
- 01:54:24,373 --> 01:54:26,918
- This was the first time a court
- outside the county was shown
- 1299
- 01:54:27,054 --> 01:54:29,852
- the overwhelming evidence
- proving Mr. McMillian's innocence.
- 1300
- 01:54:30,006 --> 01:54:31,937
- Though the court
- granted him a new trial,
- 1301
- 01:54:32,087 --> 01:54:34,035
- we believe he deserves
- to be released immediately,
- 1302
- 01:54:34,151 --> 01:54:36,315
- and that's exactly what we'll be
- arguing at the next hearing.
- 1303
- 01:54:36,620 --> 01:54:37,835
- Mr. Chapman, how do you feel about--
- 1304
- 01:54:38,004 --> 01:54:40,557
- I have to comment
- at this time! Thank you.
- 1305
- 01:54:48,115 --> 01:54:50,174
- I'm looking for attorney Bryan Stevenson.
- 1306
- 01:54:52,045 --> 01:54:54,119
- - Mr. Stevenson?
- - How can I help you?
- 1307
- 01:54:54,307 --> 01:54:56,585
- I've been ordered
- to serve you this pleading.
- 1308
- 01:54:57,604 --> 01:54:59,177
- Thank you.
- 1309
- 01:55:14,528 --> 01:55:16,877
- Tommy Chapman is asking the court
- to stay the proceedings
- 1310
- 01:55:17,035 --> 01:55:19,421
- so he can open up
- a new investigation.
- 1311
- 01:55:20,163 --> 01:55:23,046
- He's tryna buy time to rebuild his case.
- 1312
- 01:55:24,209 --> 01:55:26,292
- That son of a bitch.
- 1313
- 01:55:32,740 --> 01:55:33,365
- Bryan?
- 1314
- 01:55:33,365 --> 01:55:37,040
- You're asking the court to keep a man
- on death row you know is innocent?
- 1315
- 01:55:38,691 --> 01:55:41,382
- Excuse me, Counselor?
- I don't know what you mean.
- 1316
- 01:55:41,528 --> 01:55:43,693
- The Supreme Court supports
- all the evidence we presented.
- 1317
- 01:55:43,883 --> 01:55:46,798
- Every one of your witnesses recanted.
- You got nothing left.
- 1318
- 01:55:46,798 --> 01:55:48,514
- Hang on. My investigation
- is still in process.
- 1319
- 01:55:48,672 --> 01:55:51,402
- And we both know you're not gonna
- find anything.
- 1320
- 01:55:54,285 --> 01:55:56,306
- Do you have any idea the bullshit
- 1321
- 01:55:56,767 --> 01:55:59,999
- that I've had put up with
- since your '60 Minutes' story aired?
- 1322
- 01:56:00,525 --> 01:56:04,601
- I got the governor on my ass,
- got the NAACP callin' me a racist,
- 1323
- 01:56:04,901 --> 01:56:07,090
- I got Ronda's family
- checkin' in every five minutes.
- 1324
- 01:56:07,247 --> 01:56:10,636
- You can't keep an innocent man in prison
- while you try to salvage your reputation.
- 1325
- 01:56:10,784 --> 01:56:13,240
- This ain't got nothin' to do with
- my reputation!
- 1326
- 01:56:14,349 --> 01:56:18,553
- This is about the people of this county
- who have hired me to keep them safe.
- 1327
- 01:56:19,580 --> 01:56:22,056
- And what people
- are you talking about right now?
- 1328
- 01:56:22,216 --> 01:56:23,865
- The ones from this neighborhood?
- 1329
- 01:56:24,033 --> 01:56:26,923
- Or the ones from the black community
- you took Johnny D from?
- 1330
- 01:56:27,073 --> 01:56:29,381
- You think they feel safe?
- 1331
- 01:56:32,420 --> 01:56:37,104
- Your job isn't to defend a conviction,
- Tommy, it's to achieve justice.
- 1332
- 01:56:37,452 --> 01:56:39,127
- And as long as you keep fighting this,
- 1333
- 01:56:39,288 --> 01:56:43,354
- someone from your county
- has literally gotten away with murder.
- 1334
- 01:56:43,847 --> 01:56:45,759
- You went all the way down
- at my house at dinnertime
- 1335
- 01:56:45,893 --> 01:56:47,841
- just to tell me how to do my job?
- 1336
- 01:56:48,465 --> 01:56:52,322
- No. I'm here because I think you know
- the difference between right and wrong,
- 1337
- 01:56:53,004 --> 01:56:55,822
- and you know Johnny D
- didn't kill that girl.
- 1338
- 01:56:57,196 --> 01:56:59,617
- I'm filing a motion
- to dismiss all charges,
- 1339
- 01:56:59,791 --> 01:57:01,970
- and I think that you should join it.
- 1340
- 01:57:13,547 --> 01:57:15,774
- Next time you wanna
- stop by my house,
- 1341
- 01:57:18,012 --> 01:57:20,017
- I'd appreciate you callin' me first.
- 1342
- 01:57:20,181 --> 01:57:22,955
- Now you get the hell
- off my property, Bryan.
- 1343
- 01:57:44,727 --> 01:57:46,721
- - What's going on?
- - They won't let us in.
- 1344
- 01:57:46,868 --> 01:57:49,820
- That boy's makin' us wait
- out here for over an hour.
- 1345
- 01:57:50,353 --> 01:57:53,004
- Excuse me, what are you doing?
- 1346
- 01:57:53,152 --> 01:57:54,900
- Just followin' orders.
- 1347
- 01:57:55,015 --> 01:57:58,853
- This is a public hearing,
- these people need to be let in now!
- 1348
- 01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:06,852
- Y'all can go in now.
- 1349
- 01:58:07,029 --> 01:58:10,039
- - Now that there's no seats left.
- - It's okay.
- 1350
- 01:58:10,501 --> 01:58:12,338
- We'll find room.
- 1351
- 01:58:13,156 --> 01:58:15,107
- Excuse me, sir.
- 1352
- 01:58:16,896 --> 01:58:19,053
- Right this way, come on.
- 1353
- 01:58:24,833 --> 01:58:26,586
- Okay, thank you. Yes, ma'am.
- 1354
- 01:58:28,650 --> 01:58:30,719
- All rise!
- 1355
- 01:58:32,614 --> 01:58:36,111
- The 28th Judicial Circuit Court
- of Alabama is now in session,
- 1356
- 01:58:36,283 --> 01:58:39,100
- the honorable Judge
- Pamela Baschab presiding.
- 1357
- 01:58:39,424 --> 01:58:41,084
- Please be seated.
- 1358
- 01:58:44,030 --> 01:58:48,451
- We've got a full house, so let's try
- to move through this in a timely manner.
- 1359
- 01:58:48,689 --> 01:58:52,702
- We're here because Mr. Stevenson
- has filed a motion to dismiss
- 1360
- 01:58:52,848 --> 01:58:56,511
- all charges against
- Mr. McMillian in this case.
- 1361
- 01:58:56,725 --> 01:58:58,330
- Mr. Stevenson, since it's your motion,
- 1362
- 01:58:58,503 --> 01:59:02,413
- I'd like for you to speak to it first,
- and then we'll hear from the State.
- 1363
- 01:59:15,012 --> 01:59:18,747
- It's easy to see this case as one man
- trying to prove his innocence.
- 1364
- 01:59:20,115 --> 01:59:24,510
- But when you take a black man and you put
- him on death row a year before his trial,
- 1365
- 01:59:25,121 --> 01:59:28,505
- and exclude black people
- from serving on his jury...
- 1366
- 01:59:29,391 --> 01:59:33,154
- When you base your conviction
- on the coerced testimony of a white felon
- 1367
- 01:59:33,584 --> 01:59:37,974
- and ignore the testimonies of two dozen
- law-abiding black witnesses...
- 1368
- 01:59:39,181 --> 01:59:41,559
- When any evidence proving
- his innocence is suppressed,
- 1369
- 01:59:41,716 --> 01:59:45,555
- and anyone who tries
- to tell the truth is threatened,
- 1370
- 01:59:45,719 --> 01:59:49,265
- this case becomes more than the trial
- of just a single defendant,
- 1371
- 01:59:50,053 --> 01:59:52,766
- it becomes a test of whether
- we're gonna be governed
- 1372
- 01:59:52,949 --> 01:59:57,012
- by fear and by anger,
- or by the rule of law.
- 1373
- 02:00:03,859 --> 02:00:05,873
- If the people standing
- in the back of this courtroom
- 1374
- 02:00:05,986 --> 02:00:08,810
- are all presumed guilty when accused,
- 1375
- 02:00:10,874 --> 02:00:15,713
- if they have to live here, and live in fear
- of when this very thing will happen to them,
- 1376
- 02:00:17,798 --> 02:00:20,685
- if we're just gonna accept
- the system that treats you better
- 1377
- 02:00:20,836 --> 02:00:24,435
- if you're rich and guilty
- than if you're poor and innocent,
- 1378
- 02:00:24,587 --> 02:00:26,907
- then we can't claim to be just.
- 1379
- 02:00:27,929 --> 02:00:31,083
- If we say we are committed
- to equal justice under law,
- 1380
- 02:00:31,211 --> 02:00:36,955
- to protecting the rights of every citizen
- regardless of wealth, race, or status,
- 1381
- 02:00:37,100 --> 02:00:40,763
- then we have to end this nightmare
- for Walter McMillian and his family.
- 1382
- 02:00:41,333 --> 02:00:44,040
- The charges against him have been proven
- to be a false construction
- 1383
- 02:00:44,188 --> 02:00:47,779
- of desperate people,
- fueled by bigotry and bias,
- 1384
- 02:00:48,450 --> 02:00:53,123
- who ignored the truth in exchange
- for easy solutions. And that's not the law.
- 1385
- 02:00:54,810 --> 02:00:56,910
- That's not justice.
- 1386
- 02:00:59,810 --> 02:01:02,026
- That's not right.
- 1387
- 02:01:04,221 --> 02:01:07,709
- I asked that this case be dismissed
- immediately, Your Honor.
- 1388
- 02:01:10,732 --> 02:01:12,549
- Thank you.
- 1389
- 02:01:25,096 --> 02:01:28,770
- Mr. Chapman, what is
- the State's position on this motion?
- 1390
- 02:01:35,262 --> 02:01:38,219
- Your honor, may I
- approach the bench?
- 1391
- 02:01:38,362 --> 02:01:39,800
- Yes.
- 1392
- 02:01:44,228 --> 02:01:47,332
- Your Honor... I'm troubled.
- 1393
- 02:01:49,078 --> 02:01:51,104
- - You're troubled?
- - Troubled.
- 1394
- 02:01:55,592 --> 02:01:59,200
- 'Cause I know that the people
- in this community wanna go to sleep at night
- 1395
- 02:01:59,349 --> 02:02:02,122
- knowin' that if someone
- has committed a terrible crime,
- 1396
- 02:02:02,295 --> 02:02:04,749
- that that someone is gonna be punished.
- 1397
- 02:02:09,671 --> 02:02:12,877
- But... in this case...
- 1398
- 02:02:15,359 --> 02:02:19,077
- Your Honor, I have taken
- another look at the evidence...
- 1399
- 02:02:25,610 --> 02:02:27,263
- Mr. Chapman, please.
- 1400
- 02:02:27,426 --> 02:02:30,376
- And the State does not object
- to the motion, Your Honor.
- 1401
- 02:02:35,831 --> 02:02:37,813
- To be clear, Mr. Chapman.
- 1402
- 02:02:37,938 --> 02:02:42,755
- Are you joining the motion
- to dismiss all charges today?
- 1403
- 02:02:43,449 --> 02:02:45,644
- Yes, Your Honor, I am.
- 1404
- 02:02:46,912 --> 02:02:50,124
- Order! Please, order!
- 1405
- 02:02:53,813 --> 02:02:56,866
- Well, y'all made my job easy today.
- 1406
- 02:02:57,810 --> 02:03:01,202
- In the case of The People vs. McMillian,
- 1407
- 02:03:01,418 --> 02:03:05,138
- the court hereby grants
- the defendant's motion.
- 1408
- 02:03:05,631 --> 02:03:09,439
- All charges against you
- are dismissed, Mr. McMillian.
- 1409
- 02:03:11,505 --> 02:03:15,215
- That means you're free. That means
- you're free and you get to go home.
- 1410
- 02:03:35,031 --> 02:03:36,919
- Your freedom has come.
- 1411
- 02:04:49,719 --> 02:04:51,858
- We all with you, brother.
- 1412
- 02:05:43,872 --> 02:05:46,675
- I came out of law school
- with grand ideas in my mind
- 1413
- 02:05:46,834 --> 02:05:48,438
- about how to change the world.
- 1414
- 02:05:51,957 --> 02:05:54,480
- But Mr. McMillian made me realize
- we can't change the world
- 1415
- 02:05:54,617 --> 02:05:56,963
- with only ideas in our minds.
- 1416
- 02:05:58,125 --> 02:06:00,651
- We need conviction in our hearts.
- 1417
- 02:06:02,024 --> 02:06:04,288
- This man taught me
- how to stay hopeful,
- 1418
- 02:06:04,665 --> 02:06:08,805
- because I now know that
- hopelessness is the enemy of justice.
- 1419
- 02:06:11,196 --> 02:06:14,427
- Hope allows us to push forward,
- even when the truth is distorted
- 1420
- 02:06:14,589 --> 02:06:16,561
- by the people in power.
- 1421
- 02:06:18,875 --> 02:06:22,796
- It allows us to stand up
- when they tell us to sit down,
- 1422
- 02:06:23,038 --> 02:06:26,381
- and to speak when they say be quiet.
- 1423
- 02:06:30,818 --> 02:06:33,106
- Through this work, I've learned
- that each of us
- 1424
- 02:06:33,244 --> 02:06:35,597
- is more than the worst thing
- that we've ever done;
- 1425
- 02:06:37,396 --> 02:06:39,919
- that the opposite of poverty isn't wealth,
- 1426
- 02:06:41,026 --> 02:06:44,369
- the opposite of poverty is justice;
- 1427
- 02:06:45,589 --> 02:06:48,090
- that the character
- of our nation isn't reflected
- 1428
- 02:06:48,193 --> 02:06:51,162
- in how we treat the rich
- and the privileged,
- 1429
- 02:06:51,790 --> 02:06:56,505
- but how we treat the poor,
- the disfavored and condemned.
- 1430
- 02:07:00,937 --> 02:07:04,351
- Our system has taken more away
- from this innocent man
- 1431
- 02:07:04,513 --> 02:07:06,788
- than it has the power to give back.
- 1432
- 02:07:09,647 --> 02:07:12,784
- But I believe if each of us
- can follow his lead,
- 1433
- 02:07:13,428 --> 02:07:16,467
- we can change this world
- for the better.
- 1434
- 02:07:19,889 --> 02:07:22,361
- If we can look at ourselves closely.
- 1435
- 02:07:22,700 --> 02:07:24,533
- And honestly.
- 1436
- 02:07:24,700 --> 02:07:28,155
- I believe we will see
- that we all need justice.
- 1437
- 02:07:29,673 --> 02:07:32,014
- We all need mercy.
- 1438
- 02:07:32,323 --> 02:07:37,556
- And perhaps, we all need
- some measure of unmerited grace.
- 1439
- 02:07:40,483 --> 02:07:42,400
- Thank you.
- 1440
- 02:07:45,131 --> 02:07:47,339
- I taught you all of that?
- 1441
- 02:07:50,383 --> 02:07:52,445
- Yeah, you taught me some of that.
- 1442
- 02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:55,309
- Pretty good, ain't it?
- 1443
- 02:07:57,987 --> 02:08:01,903
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