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- 13:52] Maeve (owletrocks): Hello!
- [13:52] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): damn
- [13:52] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): been a fuckin minute
- [13:52] Maeve (owletrocks): You still don't own a shirt
- [13:52] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): yes
- [13:53] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): IM SHIRTLESS!
- [13:53] Maeve (owletrocks): i dont own pants tho so it might be ok
- [13:53] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): damnit!
- [13:53] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): you do XD
- [13:53] Maeve (owletrocks): they don't fit correctly
- [13:54] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): what have you been uptoo
- [13:54] Maeve (owletrocks): hi myther
- [13:54] mythter: Hello
- [13:55] Maeve (owletrocks): idk not a lot
- [13:55] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): well shit...same here but
- [13:55] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): crazy weekend for me
- [13:56] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): and you still got your pudgy belly like before
- [13:56] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): XD
- [13:56] Maeve (owletrocks): yer
- [13:56] Maeve (owletrocks): wait this?
- [13:56] Maeve (owletrocks): this avi's belly@
- [13:56] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): yes
- [13:56] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): you had it the last time i saw you
- [13:56] Maeve (owletrocks): hm ok
- [13:57] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): srill smoking i see
- [13:57] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): still*
- [13:58] Maeve (owletrocks): yer
- [13:58] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): i started vaping
- [13:58] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): good shit
- [13:58] Blitz19: @.@
- [13:58] Blitz19: hwllo! :V
- [13:58] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): hello! <.<
- [13:59] Maeve (owletrocks): hello blitz:)
- [13:59] mythter: o/
- [14:00] Maeve (owletrocks): im rarely online now yeh im usually too busy
- [14:00] Blitz19: im shirtless too :v
- [14:00] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): ha
- [14:01] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): oh god now im starting a trend
- [14:01] Blitz19: *XD*
- [14:01] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): XD
- [14:01] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): im about to be busy next week for the next 6 months
- [14:01] Maeve (owletrocks): sounds like deployment?
- [14:01] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): no
- [14:02] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): im starting CDL school
- [14:02] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): to drive big shit
- [14:02] Blitz19: :o
- [14:02] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): officially 10k in debt as of today XD
- [14:03] Blitz19: what is CDL?
- [14:03] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): oh yeah i forgot you guys arnt from america
- [14:03] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): Commercial Drivers Licenes
- [14:03] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): im getting my current drivers licenes Class D bumped up to a Class A
- [14:03] Maeve (owletrocks): ill be back here in like 2-3 mins
- [14:03] Maeve (owletrocks): can you wait that long
- [14:03] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): no
- [14:04] Blitz19: yes lol
- [14:04] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): i have ADD out of the ass
- [14:04] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): jk i can wait
- [14:04] Blitz19: *XD*
- [14:04] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): rip
- [14:04] Blitz19: im floating now :v
- [14:04] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): damn!
- [14:04] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): scary shit
- [14:05] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): illuminati confirmed
- [14:05] Blitz19: :O!
- [14:06] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): ikr
- [14:06] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): well shit
- [14:06] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): my add is acting up
- [14:06] Maeve (owletrocks) is offline.
- [14:06] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): help me!
- [14:07] Blitz19: lol
- [14:07] Evan Preston (velocitygaming) starts pulsing
- [14:07] Maeve (owletrocks) is online.
- [14:07] mythter: Blitz Blaine xD
- [14:07] Blitz19: who is blaine?
- [14:07] mythter: Street magic artist
- [14:08] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): oh good
- [14:08] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): my add is depleting now
- [14:08] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): XD
- [14:08] mythter: wb
- [14:08] Maeve (owletrocks): Hello!
- [14:08] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): illuminati confirmed
- [14:08] Blitz19: hello! :3
- [14:09] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): im not british so how do i say it XD
- [14:09] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): also feel badd man for yall
- [14:09] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): article 13 is a laughing stock in the USA
- [14:09] Maeve (owletrocks): trump is the laughing stock in the world
- [14:10] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): confirmed no russian interfearance with the muller report though
- [14:10] Maeve (owletrocks): also do you know what article 13 is
- [14:10] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): the end of the internet in the european union
- [14:10] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): XD
- [14:10] Maeve (owletrocks): yet here we are
- [14:10] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): not suppose to take effect till 2 years from now
- [14:11] Maeve (owletrocks): no its already in effect
- [14:11] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): oh?
- [14:11] Maeve (owletrocks): and it doesnt end the internet
- [14:11] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): its against copyright
- [14:11] Maeve (owletrocks): its copyright enforcement yes
- [14:11] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): and the youtubers in the european union
- [14:11] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): who make money will now basicly need to take the videos down
- [14:12] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): or pay a large fee with there video to the point where there not making a proft
- [14:12] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): it
- [14:12] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): profit
- [14:12] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): or in some cases jailtime
- [14:12] Maeve (owletrocks): well hopefully pewdiepie will die off thats a plus side.
- [14:12] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): with all seriousness
- [14:12] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): though net neutrality is the same shit
- [14:12] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): but
- [14:12] Maeve (owletrocks): net neutrality is not the same at all
- [14:13] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): that got re reppealed
- [14:13] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): net neutrality allows the isp of america to throttle connections as they see fit
- [14:13] Maeve (owletrocks): net neutrality was going to prevent ISPs offering "premium" internet packages. it was going to prevent throttling of sites
- [14:13] Maeve (owletrocks): yes
- [14:14] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): and control what content we see through the internet
- [14:14] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): through the premium fee
- [14:14] Maeve (owletrocks): yes its a bigger deal than baww no more stolen videos
- [14:14] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): which in a sence is kinda like article 13
- [14:14] Maeve (owletrocks): no
- [14:14] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): i said kinda
- [14:14] Maeve (owletrocks): the only similarity is that they are laws and the internet
- [14:14] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): not exactly because article 13 would not fly with our laws
- [14:15] Maeve (owletrocks): you sure?
- [14:15] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): um
- [14:15] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): people profit alone with startup isps
- [14:15] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): theres even a town somewhere in the us with there own internet
- [14:15] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): the us goverment allows people to essentially make there own internet servers
- [14:16] Maeve (owletrocks): mmhm
- [14:16] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): comcas/xfinity/ time werner/ coxs etx
- [14:16] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): etc
- [14:16] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): the big name companys buy out the smaller companys
- [14:17] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): thats why article 13 would never fly because if that was the case
- [14:17] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): there would be startups banding togeather taking down the corporates
- [14:17] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen) is online.
- [14:17] Maeve (owletrocks): except they never could?
- [14:17] Maeve (owletrocks): imagine a bunch of startups taking on amazon
- [14:17] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): you sure about that?
- [14:18] Maeve (owletrocks): or a bunch of startups taking on disney
- [14:18] Maeve (owletrocks): they couldn't compete in the slightest
- [14:18] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): what if a company offers better deals then amazon
- [14:18] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): people go where the deals go
- [14:18] Maeve (owletrocks): a brand is more powerful than a deal
- [14:18] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): and save money
- [14:18] Maeve (owletrocks): come to sergeis internet shop market everything very cheap
- [14:18] Maeve (owletrocks): ship from china
- [14:19] Maeve (owletrocks): very cheap deal for you
- [14:19] Maeve (owletrocks): vs next day delivery... or same day delivery
- [14:19] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): how about a website called wish
- [14:20] Maeve (owletrocks): do you think wish will dethrone amazon?
- [14:20] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): anything is possible
- [14:20] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): the term the sky is the limit is true
- [14:20] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): maybe in your market shit wouldnt fly
- [14:21] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): think of it like this
- [14:21] Maeve (owletrocks): id rather not
- [14:21] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): america is alot bigger then the european union
- [14:21] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): territory wise
- [14:21] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): alaska alone is a third of the us
- [14:22] Maeve (owletrocks): eu has over double the population
- [14:22] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): along with trade deals with canada
- [14:22] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): its fuckin huge
- [14:22] Maeve (owletrocks): whats your point
- [14:22] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): fgts
- [14:23] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): ha
- [14:23] Blitz19: nepu
- [14:23] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): ahaha
- [14:23] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): blitz
- [14:23] mythter: Hey Neph!
- [14:23] Maeve (owletrocks): whats your point
- [14:23] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): hey mythter, how's going man
- [14:23] Maeve (owletrocks): america is big so A13 or similar wouldnt work there?
- [14:23] mythter: i'm going sleep soon
- [14:23] Maeve (owletrocks): try uploading a movie to youtube as an american, see how fast it's removed
- [14:23] Blitz19: goodnight myther!
- [14:23] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): likewise
- [14:23] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): lol@fcc
- [14:23] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): XD
- [14:24] Maeve (owletrocks): 2 things
- [14:24] Maeve (owletrocks): i dont wanna upload a movie
- [14:24] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): article 13 is a bitch
- [14:24] Maeve (owletrocks): and i cant upload a movie
- [14:24] Maeve (owletrocks): and i couldnt before a13
- [14:24] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): oh it is
- [14:24] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): thats standard youtube policy
- [14:24] Maeve (owletrocks): a13 is stronger copyright than before
- [14:24] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): the difference
- [14:24] Maeve (owletrocks): ok what is A13 in your mind
- [14:25] Maeve (owletrocks): remind me
- [14:25] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): check this little thing we have fair use
- [14:25] mythter: Bye everyone
- [14:25] Maeve (owletrocks): yes i know what fair use us. doesnt stop copyright holders in america taking down american youtubers
- [14:25] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): blitz needs a tracksuit
- [14:25] Blitz19: bye mythter!
- [14:25] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): its a major loophole to uploading copyrighted material
- [14:25] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): then he can be subaru
- [14:25] Maeve (owletrocks): jim sterling is based in an america and he still gets flagged
- [14:25] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): but change the sound
- [14:25] Blitz19: natsuki?
- [14:25] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): and the video
- [14:25] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): done
- [14:26] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): go fuck emilia (?
- [14:26] Blitz19: i love Rem :v
- [14:26] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): me too
- [14:26] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): wait rem is the blue haired one right
- [14:26] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): now how so can american youtubers still upload material like gameplay footage of there own game
- [14:26] Blitz19: *XD*
- [14:26] Blitz19: yes
- [14:26] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): good you're a man of culture (?
- [14:26] Blitz19: xDDD
- [14:26] Maeve (owletrocks): i mean im quite sure we can still do that
- [14:26] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): dafuq
- [14:27] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): actually making a profit
- [14:27] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): uploading game videos isn't against youtube's policy
- [14:27] Maeve (owletrocks): suggesting youtube makes ppl money still
- [14:27] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): but in the european union it is now
- [14:27] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): imma clear something out
- [14:27] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): XD
- [14:27] Maeve (owletrocks): doesnt your youtube channel have like 2 COD videos and nothing else?
- [14:27] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): regardless if you make money or not
- [14:27] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): copyright laws still apply
- [14:27] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): no matter if you make money or not
- [14:27] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): maybe some people are permissive with non-profit content
- [14:28] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): but if they wanna shut you down they can
- [14:28] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): my 2 cents
- [14:28] Maeve (owletrocks): youtube is a bit weirder as companies can go "thats fine but give me its money"
- [14:28] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): Article 13, which was approved by the European Parliament today, includes a so-called “Copyright Directive” that makes platforms like Google, Facebook, Twitch, and YouTube liable for whatever is contained in the content users upload to those platforms. Fair play to the broader strokes of these laws: Creators deserve credit for their work, and tech giants are badly in need of regulation. In reality, though, Article 13 doesn’t really accomplish either of those things. Companies will either have to pay rights holders (read: usually other big companies) for any copyright-infringing content, or—and this is the more likely outcome—they’ll have to meticulously scrub uploads of any content that might cross the line. On sites like YouTube and Twitch, where creators regularly create videos and streams using everything from video game footage to emotes of copyrighted characters, this could signal a sea change.
- [14:28] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): the problem of art 13 is
- [14:28] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): it's so fucking vague we don't even know what we're facing
- [14:29] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): it could easily be interpreted as a censorship attempt to prevent independent new outlets from doing their job
- [14:29] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): some people compare it to china's censorship too
- [14:29] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): and with reason
- [14:29] Maeve (owletrocks): tbh in the UK we have like porn laws now
- [14:29] Maeve (owletrocks): i think what i make is illegal
- [14:29] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): lol
- [14:29] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): I mean hentai is illegal in japan
- [14:29] Blitz19: what?
- [14:30] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): unless you put black bars on the dick
- [14:30] Maeve (owletrocks): yes that's correct
- [14:30] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): it's retarded
- [14:30] Maeve (owletrocks): in the uk you cant make porn that involves like BDSM or face sitting
- [14:30] Maeve (owletrocks): or even squirting
- [14:30] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): lol
- [14:30] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): lol
- [14:30] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): how's that even a thing
- [14:31] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): ahaha
- [14:31] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): come to los vegas
- [14:31] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): las vegas*
- [14:31] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): los vogos
- [14:31] Maeve (owletrocks): no thanks
- [14:31] Evan Preston (velocitygaming): can make porn and shit
- [14:31] Blitz19: los vagos
- [14:31] Maeve (owletrocks): but its a law that was strongly opposed
- [14:31] Maeve (owletrocks): but is in effect but i dont think its enforced
- [14:31] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): I can see subverse being region locked in the UK
- [14:31] Maeve (owletrocks): mind you i hate british porn british people are ugly
- [14:32] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): lol I hear that stereotype a lot
- [14:32] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): is there any actual reason to that
- [14:32] Maeve (owletrocks): yes
- [14:32] Maeve (owletrocks): theyre an ugly lot here
- [14:32] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): I remember seeing someone in YT comments
- [14:32] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): complaining of the faces in star citizen being ugly
- [14:32] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): they were like "that's what you get for photoshooting people in the UK"
- [14:32] Maeve (owletrocks): :<
- [14:34] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): I still wonder how you look (?
- [14:34] Maeve (owletrocks): i thought i showed you
- [14:34] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): you never did
- [14:34] Nephuc Tomsen (shakeno.tomsen): you were always like ":<"
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