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  1. [2017-04-22 17:00:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4hi, it's time for meeting time, starring your fabulous host
  2. [2017-04-22 17:00:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4me
  3. [2017-04-22 17:00:16] * Lakituthequick beeps horn
  4. [2017-04-22 17:00:32] <Lord_Bowser> woo
  5. [2017-04-22 17:00:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this episode we're going to finish Community Awards and tie up some loose ends with that and then start the Complete Review
  6. [2017-04-22 17:00:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which is a grueling process that we will do again after E3 anyways
  7. [2017-04-22 17:00:59] <meowth> 12me
  8. [2017-04-22 17:01:23] <Lakituthequick> i have notes on about 12 awards in just mario and fail so :ok:
  9. [2017-04-22 17:01:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I missed last week so forgive me if I'm not exactly on top of every minute decision and thing that was made but tl;dr let's-a-go
  10. [2017-04-22 17:01:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it looks like we left off on C14
  11. [2017-04-22 17:02:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4rather, finished them, but
  12. [2017-04-22 17:02:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we're going with C14 now
  13. [2017-04-22 17:02:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKs8Rz9QsrkL88EfSI-HAGwSoNQDZT8Tt6MHMDJAFVI/edit
  14. [2017-04-22 17:02:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it currently sits at:
  15. [2017-04-22 17:02:23] <Anton{Politoed}> 4'Shroom Person of the Year 2016-2017 (Yoshi876, Mr. Edo, Anton, FunkyK38, MrConcreteDonkey, Toadbert101, Tucayo, Andymii, 2257, Meta Knight, Superchao)
  16. [2017-04-22 17:02:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but in https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38483.0 Lord_Bowser suggested removing tb and adding tpg
  17. [2017-04-22 17:02:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4feel free to take like 20 seconds to read that post before I go and call a vote
  18. [2017-04-22 17:04:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so
  19. [2017-04-22 17:04:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Remove Toadbert101 and add The Pyro Guy to C14? (y/n/a)
  20. [2017-04-22 17:04:24] <Lord_Bowser> y
  21. [2017-04-22 17:04:26] <GBAToad> y
  22. [2017-04-22 17:04:26] <Lakituthequick> y
  23. [2017-04-22 17:04:30] <GBAToad> im alive btw
  24. [2017-04-22 17:04:47] <meowth> 12q
  25. [2017-04-22 17:04:49] <meowth> 12a
  26. [2017-04-22 17:04:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
  27. [2017-04-22 17:04:53] <turb> y
  28. [2017-04-22 17:04:54] <shoutmon> 7y
  29. [2017-04-22 17:05:08] <meowth> 126-0-1-0 (q)
  30. [2017-04-22 17:05:12] <turb> i will say though that i feel iffy on removing tb
  31. [2017-04-22 17:05:26] <turb> im convinced tpg is a good choice but i just feel _ about that
  32. [2017-04-22 17:05:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4me too
  33. [2017-04-22 17:05:42] <Lord_Bowser> i mean tbf i meant for them to be separate
  34. [2017-04-22 17:05:45] <GBAToad> same
  35. [2017-04-22 17:05:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but idk man I liked his section but I can't exactly justify that as a reason for him to be on C14
  36. [2017-04-22 17:05:49] <turb> yeah
  37. [2017-04-22 17:05:53] <turb> i know what you mean
  38. [2017-04-22 17:06:05] <Lord_Bowser> as in have separate calls for removing tb and adding tpg
  39. [2017-04-22 17:06:19] <Lord_Bowser> sorry if that confused anyone
  40. [2017-04-22 17:06:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4either way Y to both is what looks like what's happening
  41. [2017-04-22 17:06:39] <Lakituthequick> well i'd have voted the same thing even if the votes were seperate so
  42. [2017-04-22 17:07:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anything else for C14?
  43. [2017-04-22 17:07:48] <Lord_Bowser> not that i can think of
  44. [2017-04-22 17:08:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next then is C15, affirming this decision
  45. [2017-04-22 17:08:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38494.0
  46. [2017-04-22 17:08:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4whether to keep SMB, Walkazo, Dippy, and Stoob on C15
  47. [2017-04-22 17:09:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the justification for them remaining is that this specific award isn't an annual one
  48. [2017-04-22 17:09:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but instead follows a guideline to prioritize relevancy
  49. [2017-04-22 17:10:03] <Lakituthequick> what were smb's recent-ish contributions
  50. [2017-04-22 17:10:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/The_'Shroom:Issue_111/User_Awards_Dossier#U10._Outstanding_Community_Achievement_Award
  51. [2017-04-22 17:10:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4his are admittedly a the oldest of the bunch
  52. [2017-04-22 17:11:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4with Shroom and User Awards being merged, the scope of Shroom Person of the Year and Community Achievement are now more blatantly overlapped than they once were
  53. [2017-04-22 17:12:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and I believe would be subject to just making those 2 into 1 award somewhere down the line
  54. [2017-04-22 17:12:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but not this year
  55. [2017-04-22 17:12:41] <Lakituthequick> well really only walkazo has the more recent things considering <=2014 as long-ish ago
  56. [2017-04-22 17:13:05] <GBAToad> Stoob hosted shroom mafia
  57. [2017-04-22 17:13:18] <turb> tbh shroom mafia is an unironic achievement
  58. [2017-04-22 17:13:19] <Lakituthequick> well others hosted awards mafia
  59. [2017-04-22 17:13:25] <Lakituthequick> i dont see them listed for that
  60. [2017-04-22 17:13:26] <GBAToad> and was director of sw until like two years ago
  61. [2017-04-22 17:13:35] <GBAToad> at least iirc
  62. [2017-04-22 17:14:04] <GBAToad> idk shroom mafia was a huge thing to pull off imo
  63. [2017-04-22 17:14:19] <turb> i think im fine with keeping everyone on there just since it would be easier and i feel like everyone is recent enough to still count
  64. [2017-04-22 17:14:32] <turb> and not be "this guy from years ago that's on the award because we didn't clean it up"
  65. [2017-04-22 17:14:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4well let's do this in two parts
  66. [2017-04-22 17:15:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Keep C15 as being defined by recent relevancy rather than on an annual basis? (y/n/a)
  67. [2017-04-22 17:15:23] <shoutmon> 7a
  68. [2017-04-22 17:15:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
  69. [2017-04-22 17:15:33] <turb> y
  70. [2017-04-22 17:15:38] |<-- mcd has left irc.darkmyst.org (Quit: z)
  71. [2017-04-22 17:15:44] <GBAToad> y
  72. [2017-04-22 17:16:03] <Lakituthequick> y
  73. [2017-04-22 17:16:08] <Lord_Bowser> y
  74. [2017-04-22 17:16:19] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  75. [2017-04-22 17:16:55] <Meta_Knight> 10also back
  76. [2017-04-22 17:17:00] <Lord_Bowser> 6-0-1
  77. [2017-04-22 17:17:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4participation today seems very light
  78. [2017-04-22 17:17:07] <Lakituthequick> well
  79. [2017-04-22 17:17:15] <Lord_Bowser> df is at work
  80. [2017-04-22 17:17:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we have 9 people who are here which is literally the minimum for holding a meeting
  81. [2017-04-22 17:17:20] <Lakituthequick> i think this is more of a bigger choice
  82. [2017-04-22 17:17:26] <Lakituthequick> rather than participation
  83. [2017-04-22 17:18:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is there anyone from C15 that anyone feels should be removed
  84. [2017-04-22 17:18:04] <Meta_Knight> 10sorry i was afk before like i said i had to shower
  85. [2017-04-22 17:18:11] <Meta_Knight> 10and i dont think anyone else should be removed
  86. [2017-04-22 17:18:28] <Lord_Bowser> yeah i think the award is fine as is
  87. [2017-04-22 17:18:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4or additions, even
  88. [2017-04-22 17:18:57] <turb> i considered yoshikong
  89. [2017-04-22 17:18:58] <Lakituthequick> add me
  90. [2017-04-22 17:18:59] <Lakituthequick> (it's fine)
  91. [2017-04-22 17:19:02] <turb> hes a crat now
  92. [2017-04-22 17:19:16] <Meta_Knight> 10yoshikong would be good in my opinion
  93. [2017-04-22 17:19:19] <Lord_Bowser> oh yeah yk wouldn't be bad
  94. [2017-04-22 17:19:33] <GBAToad> per
  95. [2017-04-22 17:19:35] <Meta_Knight> 10it would also help differenciate this award from shroom person of the year i hink
  96. [2017-04-22 17:19:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4he'd be listed as Shokora, as he is in the Wiki Contributor Award
  97. [2017-04-22 17:19:49] <Lord_Bowser> yeah that's fine
  98. [2017-04-22 17:19:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but ok let's do that
  99. [2017-04-22 17:19:52] <GBAToad> well yeah thats his username now anyway
  100. [2017-04-22 17:19:56] <turb> does he also run poll committee shit
  101. [2017-04-22 17:19:57] <turb> i can't remember
  102. [2017-04-22 17:19:59] <Lord_Bowser> no
  103. [2017-04-22 17:20:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add Shokora to C15? (y/n/a)
  104. [2017-04-22 17:20:04] <GBAToad> Y
  105. [2017-04-22 17:20:04] <Meta_Knight> 10y'
  106. [2017-04-22 17:20:05] <Lord_Bowser> andy and tucayo do
  107. [2017-04-22 17:20:05] <turb> y
  108. [2017-04-22 17:20:06] <Lord_Bowser> y
  109. [2017-04-22 17:20:07] <Lakituthequick> a
  110. [2017-04-22 17:20:15] <Packy> y
  111. [2017-04-22 17:20:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
  112. [2017-04-22 17:20:38] <Lord_Bowser> 5.5-0-1
  113. [2017-04-22 17:20:56] <Anton{Politoed}> 4where's the .5 coming from
  114. [2017-04-22 17:20:58] <Meta_Knight> 10packy's vote doesnt count i dont think if he isnt in the ac
  115. [2017-04-22 17:21:00] <Lord_Bowser> packy
  116. [2017-04-22 17:21:02] <Lakituthequick> half a vote?
  117. [2017-04-22 17:21:12] <Lord_Bowser> oh smasher made it count as half last time so
  118. [2017-04-22 17:21:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we stopped doing half votes this year
  119. [2017-04-22 17:21:18] <Lord_Bowser> oh okay
  120. [2017-04-22 17:21:23] <Lord_Bowser> 5-0-1 then
  121. [2017-04-22 17:21:30] =-= Mode #mwikiawards -v Packy by Anton{Politoed}
  122. [2017-04-22 17:21:52] <Packy> ;-;
  123. [2017-04-22 17:21:55] <Lakituthequick> devoice? did he had voice to begin with?
  124. [2017-04-22 17:21:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anything else for C15?
  125. [2017-04-22 17:21:57] <Packy> one of these days i will trick you all
  126. [2017-04-22 17:22:11] <Meta_Knight> 10nothing comes to my mind
  127. [2017-04-22 17:22:22] <GBAToad> move on imo
  128. [2017-04-22 17:22:32] <Lord_Bowser> yeah move on
  129. [2017-04-22 17:22:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4up next are C2 and C11
  130. [2017-04-22 17:22:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which are complete but just really needs like
  131. [2017-04-22 17:22:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4idk, me telling you it's done
  132. [2017-04-22 17:23:07] <Lord_Bowser> are they done
  133. [2017-04-22 17:23:10] <Meta_Knight> 10this is the one for best 'shroom artwork and best use of shroom images
  134. [2017-04-22 17:23:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there's some minor confusion regarding the difference between each of them
  135. [2017-04-22 17:23:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the definitions are fine but it's mostly in the names
  136. [2017-04-22 17:23:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4C2 Best 'Shroom Section Artwork
  137. [2017-04-22 17:23:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4refers to the actual artwork people produce on their own
  138. [2017-04-22 17:23:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4drawings, etc.
  139. [2017-04-22 17:24:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4C11 Best Use of Images in a ‘Shroom Section
  140. [2017-04-22 17:24:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4refers to how people use graphics to enhance their sections
  141. [2017-04-22 17:24:19] <turb> theres also some nominees we were considering lopping off to better fit the definitions
  142. [2017-04-22 17:24:28] <turb> what was that name rework we were suggesting for c11
  143. [2017-04-22 17:24:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which may or may not be images produced by themselves, and could also include charts and diagrama
  144. [2017-04-22 17:24:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's more of an aesthetic award than an art one, really
  145. [2017-04-22 17:24:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4a nice section to look at
  146. [2017-04-22 17:24:50] <turb> yeah
  147. [2017-04-22 17:25:16] <Meta_Knight> 10what if we renamed it 'Best Aesthetics in a 'Shroom Section"
  148. [2017-04-22 17:25:20] <Lord_Bowser> i would maybe suggest "Best-Looking 'Shroom Section" but idk that just seems off
  149. [2017-04-22 17:25:22] <turb> god no
  150. [2017-04-22 17:25:25] <turb> memes
  151. [2017-04-22 17:25:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that sounds weird though
  152. [2017-04-22 17:25:28] <turb> memes everywhrere
  153. [2017-04-22 17:25:33] <Lakituthequick> aesthetics refers to non-images too
  154. [2017-04-22 17:25:43] <Lakituthequick> i think
  155. [2017-04-22 17:25:50] <turb> i mean it's not an actually bad suggestion its just that i think of the aesthetics meme every single time
  156. [2017-04-22 17:25:54] <turb> and idk if the voters will too
  157. [2017-04-22 17:25:57] <Lakituthequick> so like i use nice tables so
  158. [2017-04-22 17:26:02] <shoutmon> 7sexiest shroom section
  159. [2017-04-22 17:26:04] <GBAToad> turb i wont
  160. [2017-04-22 17:26:05] <turb> plus yeah the definition gets muddled there
  161. [2017-04-22 17:26:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4'well put together' is a thing but idk how it fits in
  162. [2017-04-22 17:26:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y @ 22
  163. [2017-04-22 17:26:12] <Lord_Bowser> lol
  164. [2017-04-22 17:26:13] <turb> re: with tables
  165. [2017-04-22 17:26:16] <turb> i like 22's suggestion
  166. [2017-04-22 17:26:28] <turb> re: that name rework i accidentally butted in with earlier
  167. [2017-04-22 17:26:32] <GBAToad> I was gonna suggest lobbing in Usermade somewhere in C2 but thats redundant
  168. [2017-04-22 17:26:39] <dia> hi
  169. [2017-04-22 17:26:40] <turb> i think we were thinking "best supplemental use of images in a shroom section" or something
  170. [2017-04-22 17:26:52] <turb> wordy, but gets the meaning fully across
  171. [2017-04-22 17:26:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4oh oh
  172. [2017-04-22 17:27:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Most Polished 'Shroom Section
  173. [2017-04-22 17:27:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what do i win
  174. [2017-04-22 17:27:14] <dia> oh that sounds good
  175. [2017-04-22 17:27:16] <Lord_Bowser> oh i like that actually
  176. [2017-04-22 17:27:19] <Meta_Knight> 10shoe polish
  177. [2017-04-22 17:27:19] <turb> that sounds like it would work
  178. [2017-04-22 17:27:24] <Lakituthequick> same thing as with aestics really
  179. [2017-04-22 17:27:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah i googled aesthetic synonyms
  180. [2017-04-22 17:27:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4:bowser:
  181. [2017-04-22 17:27:42] <Lakituthequick> gdi anton
  182. [2017-04-22 17:27:44] <dia> :dk:
  183. [2017-04-22 17:27:48] <Meta_Knight> 10but yaeh this way we can include charts and tables as well
  184. [2017-04-22 17:27:58] <GBAToad> yeah it would work and it doesnt exclusively refer to the use of images
  185. [2017-04-22 17:28:03] <turb> it has the benefit of not giving me flashbacks to worst aesthetic
  186. [2017-04-22 17:28:09] <GBAToad> :^)
  187. [2017-04-22 17:28:16] <Lakituthequick> would open up the gates for pipe plaza writers
  188. [2017-04-22 17:28:19] <Meta_Knight> 10and lets be honest the tables in pipe plaza do look nice
  189. [2017-04-22 17:28:21] <Meta_Knight> 10yaeh
  190. [2017-04-22 17:28:26] * Lakituthequick coughs
  191. [2017-04-22 17:28:27] <GBAToad> smexy tables
  192. [2017-04-22 17:28:30] <turb> yeah
  193. [2017-04-22 17:28:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok so
  194. [2017-04-22 17:28:39] <Meta_Knight> 10except when retro feature breaks the issue but thats another story
  195. [2017-04-22 17:28:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4let's just make this formal before we move on if discussion re: name is finished
  196. [2017-04-22 17:29:00] <Lakituthequick> tbh most of the tables are coded weird but they do look inteligent
  197. [2017-04-22 17:29:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Rename C11 to "Most Polished 'Shroom Section"? (y/n/a)
  198. [2017-04-22 17:29:08] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  199. [2017-04-22 17:29:09] <Lord_Bowser> y
  200. [2017-04-22 17:29:10] <turb> y
  201. [2017-04-22 17:29:15] <Lakituthequick> y
  202. [2017-04-22 17:29:16] <dia> y
  203. [2017-04-22 17:29:16] <GBAToad> we should give it a definition then to clarify why we're calling them polished but
  204. [2017-04-22 17:29:17] <shoutmon> 7y
  205. [2017-04-22 17:29:17] <GBAToad> y
  206. [2017-04-22 17:29:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
  207. [2017-04-22 17:29:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yeah that's the next step
  208. [2017-04-22 17:29:33] <Lord_Bowser> 8-0-0
  209. [2017-04-22 17:29:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4sending this back to the shroom crew to set up nominees again
  210. [2017-04-22 17:30:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which I'll leave up to Meta_Knight to say whether that should be in the shroom staff board or ac staff
  211. [2017-04-22 17:30:37] <Meta_Knight> 10i'll update the thread we have for the split with this decision and give the shroom staff a week to come up with new nominees/suggestions
  212. [2017-04-22 17:30:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4gr8
  213. [2017-04-22 17:30:54] <Lakituthequick> would this in essence be equavalent to removing 'best use of images' as the definition was shifted so much
  214. [2017-04-22 17:30:58] <Meta_Knight> 10if nothing happens or we get it good it will be passed on to the ac
  215. [2017-04-22 17:31:02] <Lakituthequick> and adding a new award
  216. [2017-04-22 17:31:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4pretty much, ltq
  217. [2017-04-22 17:31:19] |<-- Packy has left irc.darkmyst.org (Quit: brb)
  218. [2017-04-22 17:31:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4dissolved Best Use of Images into two child awards
  219. [2017-04-22 17:31:25] <Lakituthequick> cool, then i'll mark the former as 'removed' in my notes
  220. [2017-04-22 17:32:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4up next after this is C5
  221. [2017-04-22 17:32:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4where all I have planned is to tell you we added eldritchdraaks
  222. [2017-04-22 17:33:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok is that it
  223. [2017-04-22 17:33:12] <Lakituthequick> i've noticed him
  224. [2017-04-22 17:33:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next on my list is Complete Review so
  225. [2017-04-22 17:33:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll just open the floor for anyone who has literally anything they want to say or do
  226. [2017-04-22 17:33:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4after the first Complete Review we'll get into tournaments and token shenanigans
  227. [2017-04-22 17:34:13] <Lakituthequick> i have some notes for during the full review
  228. [2017-04-22 17:34:14] <turb> throw a party and shit on the floor
  229. [2017-04-22 17:34:15] <Lord_Bowser> i'll have something to say when we get to tourney stuff
  230. [2017-04-22 17:34:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which will ride us out through the rest of the year, with an E3 speed bump where we hustle to update awards if necessary
  231. [2017-04-22 17:34:24] <Lakituthequick> and one commend on the entire list overall
  232. [2017-04-22 17:34:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and turb and I fucking panic while we get polls set up
  233. [2017-04-22 17:34:47] <turb> were there any pressing concerns people had during the awards that were still a touchy subject after voting
  234. [2017-04-22 17:35:07] <GBAToad> not that i can remember
  235. [2017-04-22 17:35:08] <turb> man i wish we could automate setting up polls
  236. [2017-04-22 17:35:54] <Lakituthequick> well turb
  237. [2017-04-22 17:36:07] <Lakituthequick> polldaddy literally has an api that supports that
  238. [2017-04-22 17:36:13] <turb> do they
  239. [2017-04-22 17:36:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is it free though
  240. [2017-04-22 17:36:16] <turb> ^
  241. [2017-04-22 17:36:20] <GBAToad> poll me daddy
  242. [2017-04-22 17:36:24] <turb> pls no
  243. [2017-04-22 17:36:43] <Lord_Bowser> i'm in the poll committee so i can do that gbatoad :^)
  244. [2017-04-22 17:36:44] <Lakituthequick> well i dont know but i'd assume it is
  245. [2017-04-22 17:36:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4polldaddy has lots of cool shit but it costs like $800 a year for it
  246. [2017-04-22 17:36:57] * Lakituthequick shrugs
  247. [2017-04-22 17:36:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4such as tracking each vote by IP
  248. [2017-04-22 17:37:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll look into it
  249. [2017-04-22 17:37:29] <GBAToad> tbf thats not worth it anyway since we only use it once a year even if its for a fuckton of polls
  250. [2017-04-22 17:37:56] <Lakituthequick> anyway my overall point on the list
  251. [2017-04-22 17:37:58] <Meta_Knight> 10Anton turb gbatoad meowth any other shroom members: i updated that thread
  252. [2017-04-22 17:38:03] <Lakituthequick> regarding quotation marks
  253. [2017-04-22 17:38:09] <turb> :thumbsup:
  254. [2017-04-22 17:38:28] <Lakituthequick> there are two different variants of ' used in the full list
  255. [2017-04-22 17:39:10] <Lakituthequick> a simple search replace would probably solve that
  256. [2017-04-22 17:39:53] <GBAToad> lets keep ' over "
  257. [2017-04-22 17:40:07] <Lakituthequick> its not single versus double quotes
  258. [2017-04-22 17:40:19] <GBAToad> oh fuck i misread that
  259. [2017-04-22 17:40:19] <turb> is it literally just a different character for '
  260. [2017-04-22 17:40:20] <Lakituthequick> its curly single over normal single quotes
  261. [2017-04-22 17:40:23] <turb> meh
  262. [2017-04-22 17:40:31] <GBAToad> is it the thing word does
  263. [2017-04-22 17:40:38] <turb> yeah i think so
  264. [2017-04-22 17:40:46] <turb> replaces all the single quotes for no reason
  265. [2017-04-22 17:40:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i think i did something just now
  266. [2017-04-22 17:41:00] <Lakituthequick> yeah pretty much is what word does that i personally dont like
  267. [2017-04-22 17:41:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if it didn't change it just now despite what I did then *shrug*
  268. [2017-04-22 17:41:21] <GBAToad> also another stupid thing: did we decide on a format for the favourite actor award i cant remember
  269. [2017-04-22 17:41:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because I just replaced all with the same '
  270. [2017-04-22 17:41:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yes we did and I've implemented it
  271. [2017-04-22 17:41:45] <GBAToad> good
  272. [2017-04-22 17:41:54] <GBAToad> i say move on then
  273. [2017-04-22 17:42:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok so
  274. [2017-04-22 17:42:19] <Lakituthequick> quotes look good now
  275. [2017-04-22 17:42:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the way the Complete Review works is
  276. [2017-04-22 17:42:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we just look over every single award and decision, swiftly but carefully
  277. [2017-04-22 17:42:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4to see if we made any huge fuckups or typos or anything
  278. [2017-04-22 17:42:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4including oversights in additions and removals
  279. [2017-04-22 17:43:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's probably the most boring thing to do, but
  280. [2017-04-22 17:43:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's necessary just to ensure we haven't made silly mistakes
  281. [2017-04-22 17:43:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so
  282. [2017-04-22 17:43:56] <GBAToad> As much as i like having sma2 be a fail in itself
  283. [2017-04-22 17:44:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M1 Best Sound Design (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Paper Mario, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze,
  284. [2017-04-22 17:44:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, Paper Mario: Color Splash)
  285. [2017-04-22 17:44:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M1 right off the bat shows that I standardized no spaces surrounding /
  286. [2017-04-22 17:44:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because that's my own personal typing quirk and as much as it kills me I can't have it affect the list
  287. [2017-04-22 17:44:58] <Lakituthequick> what is prefered normally
  288. [2017-04-22 17:45:17] <Lakituthequick> like i personally like surrounding spaces but what is the overall opinion
  289. [2017-04-22 17:45:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4no spaces is the standard but
  290. [2017-04-22 17:45:23] <Meta_Knight> 10im fine with no spaces
  291. [2017-04-22 17:45:24] <turb> i have no opinion either way
  292. [2017-04-22 17:45:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4idk bro i just think it's better to look at with spaces
  293. [2017-04-22 17:45:33] <Lord_Bowser> i don't mind either wat
  294. [2017-04-22 17:45:35] <Meta_Knight> 10you woulddnt write the date 04 / 22 / 17
  295. [2017-04-22 17:45:41] <Meta_Knight> 10but it doesnt really matter i gues
  296. [2017-04-22 17:45:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4by "standard" I mean in actual english and not what we've decided
  297. [2017-04-22 17:45:52] <shoutmon> 7yeah youd write it 2017-04-22
  298. [2017-04-22 17:45:53] <Lakituthequick> dates and names are different things
  299. [2017-04-22 17:45:55] <shoutmon> 7because youre not a save
  300. [2017-04-22 17:46:00] <shoutmon> 7savage
  301. [2017-04-22 17:46:03] <Lakituthequick> also its Y-M-D or D-M-Y so
  302. [2017-04-22 17:46:15] <shoutmon> 7wrong, its only y-m-d
  303. [2017-04-22 17:46:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I will literally ban people if we debate this
  304. [2017-04-22 17:46:17] * shoutmon 7bans ltq
  305. [2017-04-22 17:46:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4see, like that
  306. [2017-04-22 17:46:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anyways does M1 look fine
  307. [2017-04-22 17:46:37] <Meta_Knight> 10yes
  308. [2017-04-22 17:46:45] <turb> yes
  309. [2017-04-22 17:46:48] <Lakituthequick> yes
  310. [2017-04-22 17:46:49] <Lord_Bowser> yes
  311. [2017-04-22 17:47:01] <GBAToad> yass
  312. [2017-04-22 17:47:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M2 Favorite Mario Kart Game (Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)
  313. [2017-04-22 17:47:10] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  314. [2017-04-22 17:47:14] <Lord_Bowser> yeah
  315. [2017-04-22 17:47:29] <Lakituthequick> y
  316. [2017-04-22 17:47:33] <dia> i always do no spac/e
  317. [2017-04-22 17:47:45] <turb> y
  318. [2017-04-22 17:47:48] <dia> 7
  319. [2017-04-22 17:47:49] <dia> y
  320. [2017-04-22 17:47:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this award is already all-inclusive afaik
  321. [2017-04-22 17:47:52] <dia> woops
  322. [2017-04-22 17:48:04] <turb> its everything except the arcade games and they always got like 2 votes total
  323. [2017-04-22 17:48:06] <Lakituthequick> well excluding arcade
  324. [2017-04-22 17:48:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the arcade ones got literally 0 votes last year
  325. [2017-04-22 17:48:58] <shoutmon> 7when they open the mario kart theme park ride will we add that
  326. [2017-04-22 17:48:59] <Lakituthequick> saw an article recently about the return of arcade halls
  327. [2017-04-22 17:49:03] <Lakituthequick> well not in these polls
  328. [2017-04-22 17:49:42] <Lakituthequick> but yeah m2 looks good
  329. [2017-04-22 17:50:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M3 Favorite Mario Platformer (Super Mario 64/Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. U/New Super Luigi U, Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario Run)
  330. [2017-04-22 17:50:28] <turb> is this already all inclusive
  331. [2017-04-22 17:50:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we chopped off nsmb2
  332. [2017-04-22 17:50:37] <turb> oh i guess beyond smb2 but writeins
  333. [2017-04-22 17:50:38] <Lakituthequick> i think i saw SMR listed in worst spinoff as well
  334. [2017-04-22 17:50:38] <turb> and that
  335. [2017-04-22 17:50:57] <GBAToad> so skip
  336. [2017-04-22 17:50:59] <Lakituthequick> so what is SMR
  337. [2017-04-22 17:51:06] <GBAToad> super mario run
  338. [2017-04-22 17:51:08] <GBAToad> ?
  339. [2017-04-22 17:51:09] <shoutmon> 7super mario run is the iphone game
  340. [2017-04-22 17:51:10] <Lakituthequick> a plaformer, a spinoff or both
  341. [2017-04-22 17:51:22] <shoutmon> 7why cant it be both
  342. [2017-04-22 17:51:27] <shoutmon> 7yoshi's island is both
  343. [2017-04-22 17:51:32] <Lakituthequick> well it fells a bit weird
  344. [2017-04-22 17:51:42] <Lakituthequick> it technically makes sense but __
  345. [2017-04-22 17:51:45] <turb> can't it be both
  346. [2017-04-22 17:51:49] <turb> i mean it literally is both isnt it
  347. [2017-04-22 17:51:56] <Lakituthequick> yeah
  348. [2017-04-22 17:52:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's nintendo's fault for making only platformers the main games
  349. [2017-04-22 17:52:10] <shoutmon> 7spinoff isnt a very clearly defined term but i guess so
  350. [2017-04-22 17:52:14] <turb> a lot of things this year have been nintendo's fault if i'm perfectly honest
  351. [2017-04-22 17:52:21] <turb> see: favorite dlc
  352. [2017-04-22 17:52:22] <Lord_Bowser> yeah it's too much of both to make it specifically one or the other
  353. [2017-04-22 17:52:27] <Lord_Bowser> also true
  354. [2017-04-22 17:52:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4when's mario fps
  355. [2017-04-22 17:52:32] <GBAToad> these whole awards are nintendos fault
  356. [2017-04-22 17:52:40] <turb> let's break away from nintendo next year and host the sony awards
  357. [2017-04-22 17:52:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4remember niwa awards
  358. [2017-04-22 17:52:51] <GBAToad> favourite dead ip
  359. [2017-04-22 17:53:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M4 Favorite Mario Kart Course (Bowser's Castle (Mario Kart 64), Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 7), Wario Colosseum, Waluigi Pinball, Airship Fortress, Mushroom Gorge, Coconut Mall, Maple Treeway, Electrodrome, N64 Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 8), Mount Wario, Mute City, Animal Crossing, Baby Park, Big Blue)
  360. [2017-04-22 17:53:01] <Lakituthequick> niwa awards i dont remover
  361. [2017-04-22 17:53:04] <turb> i remember niwa awards and now i want to forget them again
  362. [2017-04-22 17:53:05] <Gamefreak75> its time for pikmin awards
  363. [2017-04-22 17:53:06] <turb> this looks good
  364. [2017-04-22 17:53:07] <Gamefreak75> tbh
  365. [2017-04-22 17:53:11] <Lakituthequick> *remember
  366. [2017-04-22 17:53:18] <turb> i hate redoing this award and they didnt add any new conventional courses to deluxe
  367. [2017-04-22 17:53:32] <Lakituthequick> add all rainbow roads (dont)
  368. [2017-04-22 17:53:33] <Lord_Bowser> it's good
  369. [2017-04-22 17:53:37] <GBAToad> we dont need to consider mk8 deluxe for this award because no new racing tracks
  370. [2017-04-22 17:53:38] <dia> set
  371. [2017-04-22 17:53:42] <GBAToad> but the next one......
  372. [2017-04-22 17:53:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we spent like a full 35 minutes doing nothing to this award when we originally did it
  373. [2017-04-22 17:53:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4lots of votes to do nothing
  374. [2017-04-22 17:54:09] <shoutmon> 7there was a mario fps on the snes
  375. [2017-04-22 17:54:10] <dia> i vote to hold a vote to keep
  376. [2017-04-22 17:54:15] <dia> and do nothing
  377. [2017-04-22 17:54:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4when's mario moba
  378. [2017-04-22 17:54:27] <GBAToad> mario moab
  379. [2017-04-22 17:54:29] <shoutmon> 7soon i hope
  380. [2017-04-22 17:54:31] <dia> is there not a mario moba
  381. [2017-04-22 17:54:33] <Lakituthequick> gonna metion one thing though
  382. [2017-04-22 17:54:36] <Lakituthequick> sorry anton
  383. [2017-04-22 17:54:39] <Lord_Bowser> when's mario metroidvania
  384. [2017-04-22 17:54:40] <Lakituthequick> identifiers
  385. [2017-04-22 17:54:46] <Gamefreak75> wheres my mario srpg
  386. [2017-04-22 17:55:04] <turb> they probably literally would have enough enemies for a mario moba
  387. [2017-04-22 17:55:05] <dia> is there a mario shootemup
  388. [2017-04-22 17:55:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4they should be shortened
  389. [2017-04-22 17:55:12] <Lakituthequick> like battle course (M22) uses console abbriviations
  390. [2017-04-22 17:55:16] <Lakituthequick> this use game names
  391. [2017-04-22 17:55:20] <turb> isnt battle course actually
  392. [2017-04-22 17:55:24] <GBAToad> mario sorority girls beach volleyball
  393. [2017-04-22 17:55:24] <turb> the one going out of line
  394. [2017-04-22 17:55:31] <turb> i just slapped fucking whatever on the doc
  395. [2017-04-22 17:55:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah it'd be M22 we need to fix
  396. [2017-04-22 17:55:39] <turb> oops
  397. [2017-04-22 17:55:56] <dia> ok
  398. [2017-04-22 17:55:58] <Lakituthequick> then i'll recite what i just said when we get to m22
  399. [2017-04-22 17:56:01] <GBAToad> is there a reason that the mario kart track award and battle course award are so distant
  400. [2017-04-22 17:56:02] <Lord_Bowser> mario dating sim
  401. [2017-04-22 17:56:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I think we gotta change things like Mario Kart 7 to MK7
  402. [2017-04-22 17:56:17] <turb> we were replacing an award straight up
  403. [2017-04-22 17:56:28] <turb> so it took the old numbering
  404. [2017-04-22 17:56:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yeah M22 was the vacancy
  405. [2017-04-22 17:56:41] <turb> also im fine with shortening them
  406. [2017-04-22 17:56:55] <shoutmon> 7i think it makes more sense to use console abbreviations since thats how nintendo does it
  407. [2017-04-22 17:56:57] <dia> yeah thats fine, as long as its understandable
  408. [2017-04-22 17:57:06] <shoutmon> 7and how the wiki does it tb
  409. [2017-04-22 17:57:07] <dia> its just all mario karts right
  410. [2017-04-22 17:57:08] <shoutmon> 7h
  411. [2017-04-22 17:57:14] <turb> im fine with eithr
  412. [2017-04-22 17:57:22] <turb> just as long as the nominees are understandable
  413. [2017-04-22 17:57:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4really???
  414. [2017-04-22 17:57:44] <shoutmon> 7yes
  415. [2017-04-22 17:57:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it seems like an extra step, though
  416. [2017-04-22 17:57:53] <GBAToad> its just me being stupid but it does kinda look out of place in comparison to other awards which are grouped together pretty well so would it be sin to shift it up and push the other awards down a number
  417. [2017-04-22 17:57:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4referencing the console and then having to remember which game that was
  418. [2017-04-22 17:58:00] <dia> whats the console abbreviations?
  419. [2017-04-22 17:58:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4tbh the other awards being grouped together well is a fluke
  420. [2017-04-22 17:58:20] <turb> yeah like
  421. [2017-04-22 17:58:26] <turb> theyre all randomized at presentation time anyway
  422. [2017-04-22 17:58:31] <Meta_Knight> 10NES SNES N64 GCN WII DS GB GBA GBC as far as im aware dia
  423. [2017-04-22 17:58:38] <turb> so in the end its only really an aesthetic thing on the full list
  424. [2017-04-22 17:58:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4like F2-5 or whatever it is all being related is because we nuked a bunch of awards and were just simply able to
  425. [2017-04-22 17:59:03] <dia> oh, so
  426. [2017-04-22 17:59:10] <dia> well, as long as the nominees are clear
  427. [2017-04-22 17:59:26] <dia> are there a lot of mario karts on the same consoles?
  428. [2017-04-22 17:59:44] <GBAToad> usually its one per console
  429. [2017-04-22 17:59:46] <Lakituthequick> excluding vc, no
  430. [2017-04-22 17:59:48] <Nyrie> there are none on the same consoles
  431. [2017-04-22 17:59:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this really only affects 3 nominees, actually
  432. [2017-04-22 17:59:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4going from game to console
  433. [2017-04-22 18:00:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so if that's the standard with courses then I guess I'll do that really quick
  434. [2017-04-22 18:00:43] <dia> should we add the game abbreviation for the 3 that have an issue?
  435. [2017-04-22 18:01:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4mk7 was just 3ds right
  436. [2017-04-22 18:01:13] <shoutmon> 7rainbow road (n64) (mario kart 64)
  437. [2017-04-22 18:01:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4or do I have to say 2ds
  438. [2017-04-22 18:01:22] <shoutmon> 7thats the format we should use
  439. [2017-04-22 18:01:24] <Nyrie> the only one i could see being confusing is n64 rainbow road
  440. [2017-04-22 18:01:28] <shoutmon> 7its the nly way bea clear
  441. [2017-04-22 18:01:29] <Nyrie> because it would be
  442. [2017-04-22 18:01:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that looks awful
  443. [2017-04-22 18:01:36] <shoutmon> 72ds and 3ds are the same thing
  444. [2017-04-22 18:01:37] <Nyrie> N64 Rainbow Road (Wii U)
  445. [2017-04-22 18:01:45] <GBAToad> yeah that
  446. [2017-04-22 18:01:50] <Lakituthequick> 3ds came earlier so use that
  447. [2017-04-22 18:01:53] <shoutmon> 7no i was bing sarcastic...
  448. [2017-04-22 18:02:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anyways I did it
  449. [2017-04-22 18:02:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is that it with M4
  450. [2017-04-22 18:02:24] <dia> im fine
  451. [2017-04-22 18:02:27] <GBAToad> y
  452. [2017-04-22 18:02:29] <Lord_Bowser> y
  453. [2017-04-22 18:02:31] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  454. [2017-04-22 18:02:32] <dia> y
  455. [2017-04-22 18:02:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M5 Favorite DK Game (Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!, Donkey Kong 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong Country Returns/Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D, Donkey Kong Jr. Math, Donkey Kong (Arcade), Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat,
  456. [2017-04-22 18:02:44] <shoutmon> 7y
  457. [2017-04-22 18:02:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Donkey Kong '94 (Game Boy))
  458. [2017-04-22 18:02:46] <turb> y
  459. [2017-04-22 18:02:49] <turb> f
  460. [2017-04-22 18:02:51] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  461. [2017-04-22 18:02:53] <turb> y
  462. [2017-04-22 18:03:02] <shoutmon> 7also my connection is cutting out so i might leave randomly
  463. [2017-04-22 18:03:10] <shoutmon> 7sorry
  464. [2017-04-22 18:03:25] <Lakituthequick> well
  465. [2017-04-22 18:03:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i'm marking you as unexcused absent
  466. [2017-04-22 18:03:31] <Lakituthequick> dk94
  467. [2017-04-22 18:03:38] <shoutmon> 7is the titl "donkey king '94 (game body)" like tht on purpose
  468. [2017-04-22 18:03:44] <Lakituthequick> actually just called Donkey Kong
  469. [2017-04-22 18:03:50] <Lakituthequick> but on game boy
  470. [2017-04-22 18:03:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's just how it has been since forever and no one's told me to change it
  471. [2017-04-22 18:04:02] <Meta_Knight> 10but its more extensive than the original donkey kong
  472. [2017-04-22 18:04:07] <Lakituthequick> well i think we are discussing this every year so
  473. [2017-04-22 18:04:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4until right now
  474. [2017-04-22 18:04:27] <shoutmon> 7just as long as we're dong it on purpose i dont care
  475. [2017-04-22 18:04:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there's Donkey Kong (Arcade)
  476. [2017-04-22 18:04:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4couldn't we lob off the '94
  477. [2017-04-22 18:04:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Donkey Kong (Game Boy)
  478. [2017-04-22 18:04:56] <Lakituthequick> exactly
  479. [2017-04-22 18:05:00] <turb> sure
  480. [2017-04-22 18:05:01] <Meta_Knight> 10i would be against that
  481. [2017-04-22 18:05:04] <shoutmon> 7thats th offical title
  482. [2017-04-22 18:05:09] <Meta_Knight> 10dk94 is very different from it but _
  483. [2017-04-22 18:05:09] <turb> i mean yeah
  484. [2017-04-22 18:05:10] <Lord_Bowser> i wouldn't mind it
  485. [2017-04-22 18:05:15] <turb> 94 isnt int the title is it
  486. [2017-04-22 18:05:17] <Meta_Knight> 10its not that big a deal
  487. [2017-04-22 18:05:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there two donkey kongs for game boy
  488. [2017-04-22 18:05:23] <Anton{Politoed}> 4or just arcade/game boy
  489. [2017-04-22 18:05:25] <Lord_Bowser> i mean mk that is the official title
  490. [2017-04-22 18:05:27] <turb> i mean there is donkey kong (arcade) on the award already mk
  491. [2017-04-22 18:05:30] <Lord_Bowser> also no that's it
  492. [2017-04-22 18:05:33] <turb> its pretty clear which is which
  493. [2017-04-22 18:05:36] <Meta_Knight> 10fair enough
  494. [2017-04-22 18:05:52] <shoutmon> 7should it be uh
  495. [2017-04-22 18:05:57] <shoutmon> 7arcade/nes?
  496. [2017-04-22 18:06:09] <Lord_Bowser> i was about to mention that 22 gdi
  497. [2017-04-22 18:06:15] <shoutmon> 7i think thee was something weird about that
  498. [2017-04-22 18:06:21] <shoutmon> 7like one leve was missing in one vern
  499. [2017-04-22 18:06:23] <shoutmon> 7or somehting
  500. [2017-04-22 18:06:31] <Lord_Bowser> oh lemme double check
  501. [2017-04-22 18:06:50] <Meta_Knight> 10there was a nes cart thats both donkey kong and donkey kong jr on it
  502. [2017-04-22 18:06:56] <Meta_Knight> 10idk if there was one with just donkey kong
  503. [2017-04-22 18:07:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4"Donkey Kong has kidnapped the beautiful Lady (Pauline in the NES conversion) to a dangerous construction site."
  504. [2017-04-22 18:07:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4god damn SJWs giving the damsels actual names
  505. [2017-04-22 18:07:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4humanizing them
  506. [2017-04-22 18:07:23] <Lakituthequick> "version of the game was also created later for the Nintendo Entertainment System, Nintendo's first home console, under Arcade Classics Series."
  507. [2017-04-22 18:07:30] <Lakituthequick> so 'A version'
  508. [2017-04-22 18:07:38] <Lakituthequick> not a straight port
  509. [2017-04-22 18:07:43] <Lord_Bowser> oh yeah
  510. [2017-04-22 18:07:52] <Lord_Bowser> the nes version doesn't have 50m
  511. [2017-04-22 18:07:54] <Lakituthequick> thats jus what im reading in the intro though so
  512. [2017-04-22 18:08:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I don't want there to be 7 Donkey Kongs on this award just because they gave Pauline a name in one version
  513. [2017-04-22 18:08:06] <shoutmon> 7i dont think theres a difference in infomal usage
  514. [2017-04-22 18:08:31] <Lakituthequick> anton the awards is litterally 'Favorite DK Game' so
  515. [2017-04-22 18:08:32] <Meta_Knight> 10anton put in donkey kong (featured in donkey kong 64 as that one bs minigame) (donkey kong 64) /s
  516. [2017-04-22 18:08:34] <turb> i feel like when people are talking about original donkey kong
  517. [2017-04-22 18:08:39] <shoutmon> 7no tis because of waht lb id
  518. [2017-04-22 18:08:40] <dia> is it essentially the same game tho
  519. [2017-04-22 18:08:43] <turb> theyre referring either to arcade or nes
  520. [2017-04-22 18:08:49] <turb> regardless of uh
  521. [2017-04-22 18:08:52] <turb> level differences
  522. [2017-04-22 18:09:12] <shoutmon> 7also im just sayinthink we should specifathat nominee covers both sions
  523. [2017-04-22 18:09:18] <shoutmon> 7not that i think we should add another nominee
  524. [2017-04-22 18:09:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 21:08 Lakituthequick anton the awards is litterally 'Favorite DK Game' so
  525. [2017-04-22 18:09:27] <shoutmon> 7god dammit
  526. [2017-04-22 18:09:33] <shoutmon> 7its really hard to ty with ilag
  527. [2017-04-22 18:09:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4no my point is I don't want there to be a new nominee for every variant of the single game "Donkey Kong"
  528. [2017-04-22 18:09:45] <dia> is the current nominees confusing to voters?
  529. [2017-04-22 18:09:47] <Lakituthequick> so change the name from Donkey Kong (arcade) to Donkey Kong
  530. [2017-04-22 18:09:55] <turb> why...
  531. [2017-04-22 18:10:03] <turb> why not just change it to arcade/nes
  532. [2017-04-22 18:10:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm not removing arcade from it
  533. [2017-04-22 18:10:07] <turb> those are the two most relevant versions
  534. [2017-04-22 18:10:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah what turb said
  535. [2017-04-22 18:10:17] <dia> im fine with turbs idea
  536. [2017-04-22 18:10:25] <Lord_Bowser> yeah there's no reason to remove arcade
  537. [2017-04-22 18:10:30] <dia> the main goal is to make it clear to voters yeah
  538. [2017-04-22 18:10:32] <Lord_Bowser> it would make it more confusion
  539. [2017-04-22 18:10:40] <Lord_Bowser> confusing*
  540. [2017-04-22 18:10:42] <dia> its essentially the same thing
  541. [2017-04-22 18:11:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok i did that
  542. [2017-04-22 18:11:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4unless everyone hates it a lot
  543. [2017-04-22 18:11:13] <Lord_Bowser> i don't
  544. [2017-04-22 18:11:21] <shoutmon> 7i like it a lot
  545. [2017-04-22 18:11:26] <turb> i like it
  546. [2017-04-22 18:11:38] <GBAToad> I HATE IT ANTON CHANGE IT BACK CHANGE IT BACK
  547. [2017-04-22 18:11:40] <GBAToad> no
  548. [2017-04-22 18:11:51] <GBAToad> i like it
  549. [2017-04-22 18:11:52] <Lord_Bowser> ♡ You like this
  550. [2017-04-22 18:11:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M6 Favorite Wario Game (Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3, Wario Land 3, Wario Land 4, WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!, WarioWare: Twisted!, WarioWare: Touched!, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wario: Master of Disguise, Wario Land: Shake It!, WarioWare: D.I.Y., Wario World, Game & Wario, Wario Land II)
  551. [2017-04-22 18:12:28] <turb> y
  552. [2017-04-22 18:12:30] <Meta_Knight> 10keep
  553. [2017-04-22 18:12:36] <Lakituthequick> Inc.: Mega Party Game$! is a nice game
  554. [2017-04-22 18:12:39] <Lakituthequick> (ok)
  555. [2017-04-22 18:13:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah that's a thing
  556. [2017-04-22 18:13:04] <Lakituthequick> (there is a literal comma in that name, lol)
  557. [2017-04-22 18:13:08] <Lord_Bowser> the placement of wl2 bothers me but that's just petty probably so y
  558. [2017-04-22 18:13:10] <GBAToad> "look we can use punctuation"
  559. [2017-04-22 18:13:15] <GBAToad> warioware devs
  560. [2017-04-22 18:13:19] <turb> oh yeah to also be the guy who doesn't like being anal about semantics but is being anal about semantics right now
  561. [2017-04-22 18:13:30] <turb> is wario land ii definitely stylized as that
  562. [2017-04-22 18:13:35] <turb> instead of wario land 2
  563. [2017-04-22 18:13:41] <Lord_Bowser> lemme see
  564. [2017-04-22 18:13:42] <turb> i feel like this was probably discussed but i forgot
  565. [2017-04-22 18:13:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4tbf in the polls these are all going to be on individual lines so that comma break in mega party games isn't going to be an issue
  566. [2017-04-22 18:13:58] <Meta_Knight> 10it might be a thing ilke with metroid II
  567. [2017-04-22 18:13:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4unless turb and I derp super hard and register them separately as we type them in
  568. [2017-04-22 18:14:04] <Lord_Bowser> wiki confirms it is, turb
  569. [2017-04-22 18:14:08] <turb> gr8
  570. [2017-04-22 18:14:10] <Meta_Knight> 10where super metroid and fusion both to refer to themself as 3 and 4
  571. [2017-04-22 18:14:15] <Meta_Knight> 10but 2 is always written as II
  572. [2017-04-22 18:14:21] <GBAToad> SMA2 for biggest missed opportunity ples
  573. [2017-04-22 18:14:22] <turb> also no ill hopefully remember to not put it on as inc.: mega party games
  574. [2017-04-22 18:14:30] <shoutmon> 7and zelda
  575. [2017-04-22 18:14:34] <Lord_Bowser> gba i think that was sma4 :p
  576. [2017-04-22 18:14:37] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah
  577. [2017-04-22 18:14:42] <turb> sma4 was a national treasure
  578. [2017-04-22 18:14:45] <shoutmon> 7it must be a nintendo thing
  579. [2017-04-22 18:14:51] <Lakituthequick> i actually went and figured out where the f11 issue came from two weeks ago
  580. [2017-04-22 18:14:59] <Lakituthequick> may come back to it then
  581. [2017-04-22 18:15:05] <Meta_Knight> 1022 they'd probably call you either II II or XXII
  582. [2017-04-22 18:15:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4whose fault was it
  583. [2017-04-22 18:15:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4was it 22's
  584. [2017-04-22 18:15:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4can I fire him
  585. [2017-04-22 18:15:10] <Lakituthequick> yes
  586. [2017-04-22 18:15:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  587. [2017-04-22 18:15:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M7 Favorite Yoshi Game (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Island DS, Tetris Attack, Yoshi's Story, Yoshi Touch & Go, Yoshi's Cookie, Yoshi, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy, Yoshi's New Island, Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World)
  588. [2017-04-22 18:15:36] <Lakituthequick> (no joke though it happened when anton was away)
  589. [2017-04-22 18:15:44] <Meta_Knight> 10this is fine
  590. [2017-04-22 18:15:47] <shoutmon> 7youre just mad because i banned you
  591. [2017-04-22 18:15:57] <turb> y
  592. [2017-04-22 18:16:02] <GBAToad> man i hate how yoshis woolly world is formatted but it cant be helped
  593. [2017-04-22 18:16:12] <GBAToad> nintendo make your ports less wordy next time
  594. [2017-04-22 18:16:13] <Lord_Bowser> y
  595. [2017-04-22 18:16:15] <GBAToad> y
  596. [2017-04-22 18:16:48] <Lakituthequick> tbf the port isnt even that wordy
  597. [2017-04-22 18:16:54] <Lakituthequick> pasting them in the same award is
  598. [2017-04-22 18:17:07] <shoutmon> 7yeah just calle it 'poochy' nex time
  599. [2017-04-22 18:17:13] <Lakituthequick> list is ok
  600. [2017-04-22 18:17:13] <shoutmon> 7the other words dont matter
  601. [2017-04-22 18:17:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M8 Favorite Art Style (Retro style sprites, Yoshi's Island style, Donkey Kong Country style, Main series 3D style, Paper Mario style, Mario & Luigi style, Yoshi's Story style, Yoshi's Woolly World style, Wario Land: Shake It! style, Super Mario RPG style, Super Mario Strikers style)
  602. [2017-04-22 18:17:32] <turb> y
  603. [2017-04-22 18:17:33] <Meta_Knight> 10yup
  604. [2017-04-22 18:17:35] <Lakituthequick> style, style, style and style
  605. [2017-04-22 18:17:35] <GBAToad> looks good m8
  606. [2017-04-22 18:17:50] <Lakituthequick> strikes me but it works
  607. [2017-04-22 18:18:20] <Lord_Bowser> y
  608. [2017-04-22 18:18:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'd say they wouldn't be necessary but
  609. [2017-04-22 18:18:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it puts emphasis on how that game's style is
  610. [2017-04-22 18:18:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4instead of the game title
  611. [2017-04-22 18:19:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4plus there's things like Paper Mario where it covers the whole series and not just that game
  612. [2017-04-22 18:19:21] <turb> ^
  613. [2017-04-22 18:19:28] <Lakituthequick> wouldn't 'paper mario series' work in that case
  614. [2017-04-22 18:20:09] <Lakituthequick> anyway i wont suggest changing every name on this award unless it hits a nerve for everyone
  615. [2017-04-22 18:20:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4technically yes, but not really any different than it already does
  616. [2017-04-22 18:21:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll keep an eye on it, though, if it looks like it generates confusion for the voters
  617. [2017-04-22 18:21:11] <shoutmon> 7change style to aesthetic
  618. [2017-04-22 18:21:25] <Meta_Knight> 10that would probably kill turb
  619. [2017-04-22 18:21:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M9 Favorite DLC (The Legend of Zelda × Mario Kart 8, Animal Crossing × Mario Kart 8, Mercedes-Benz × Mario Kart 8, New Super Luigi U, Peach's Castle stage (SSB4), Super Mario Maker stage (SSB4), Super Mario Mash-Up Pack (Minecraft: Wii U Edition))
  620. [2017-04-22 18:21:34] <Lakituthequick> [insert weird unicode a la gbatoad here]
  621. [2017-04-22 18:21:37] <turb> dddddddd
  622. [2017-04-22 18:21:48] <Lakituthequick> ho boy this one
  623. [2017-04-22 18:22:13] <Lakituthequick> it actally is good now i think
  624. [2017-04-22 18:22:14] <turb> this one is probably fine
  625. [2017-04-22 18:22:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we decided case-by-case for this one
  626. [2017-04-22 18:22:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4since wholesale applications for merging/splitting would be gr8 for one, but awful for another
  627. [2017-04-22 18:23:23] <shoutmon> 7i thought we just deleted the merged options since they were unloved anyway
  628. [2017-04-22 18:23:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that too
  629. [2017-04-22 18:23:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so I guess move on since we blew up our only concerns
  630. [2017-04-22 18:24:03] <Meta_Knight> 10support
  631. [2017-04-22 18:24:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M10 Favorite Partner Developer (AlphaDream (Mario & Luigi series), Intelligent Systems (Paper Mario series), Hudson Soft (Mario Party 1-8, Mario Party DS), Camelot Software Planning (Mario Tennis series, Mario Golf series), Next Level Games (Mario Strikers series, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon), Bandai Namco Entertainment (Mario Baseball series),
  632. [2017-04-22 18:24:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Good-Feel (Yoshi's Woolly World), Square Enix (Super Mario RPG, Mario Sports Mix), Sega (Mario & Sonic series), Retro Studios (Mario Kart 7, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze), Rare Ltd. (Donkey Kong Country series, Donkey Kong Land series), 1-UP Studio (Super Mario 3D Land, Super Mario 3D World), Nd Cube (Mario Party 9-10, Mario Party: Star Rush),
  633. [2017-04-22 18:24:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Arika (Dr. Mario series))
  634. [2017-04-22 18:24:51] <Lakituthequick> this award is so big it needs three messages to post
  635. [2017-04-22 18:25:06] <GBAToad> hal is kill
  636. [2017-04-22 18:25:08] <turb> add jupiter
  637. [2017-04-22 18:25:10] <turb> :^)
  638. [2017-04-22 18:25:15] <turb> no but just move on i think
  639. [2017-04-22 18:25:18] <GBAToad> add konami
  640. [2017-04-22 18:25:26] <Lord_Bowser> add yami's studio
  641. [2017-04-22 18:25:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M11 Favorite Major Character (Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Rosalina, Bowser Jr., Toad)
  642. [2017-04-22 18:25:36] <Lakituthequick> add cw games
  643. [2017-04-22 18:25:39] <Lakituthequick> (dont)
  644. [2017-04-22 18:25:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4when's deep lore backstory for kamek
  645. [2017-04-22 18:25:42] <Meta_Knight> 10move on
  646. [2017-04-22 18:25:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4to push him to M11
  647. [2017-04-22 18:25:51] <Meta_Knight> 10in kamek's new spinoff game
  648. [2017-04-22 18:25:57] <shoutmon> 7poochy
  649. [2017-04-22 18:26:01] <GBAToad> kameks storybook
  650. [2017-04-22 18:26:02] <Meta_Knight> 10it will be a game like sims or something
  651. [2017-04-22 18:26:05] <Meta_Knight> 10where you raise a kid
  652. [2017-04-22 18:26:07] <Meta_Knight> 10but its bowser
  653. [2017-04-22 18:26:10] <GBAToad> then baby kamek appears in mk9
  654. [2017-04-22 18:26:14] <GBAToad> and ruins the whole thing
  655. [2017-04-22 18:26:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4cute and cute
  656. [2017-04-22 18:26:25] <shoutmon> 7i thought you were going to say, where you torture unsuspecting people with divine power
  657. [2017-04-22 18:26:34] <Lord_Bowser> lmao
  658. [2017-04-22 18:26:36] <shoutmon> 7thats what i think of when i think of the sims
  659. [2017-04-22 18:26:43] <Meta_Knight> 10kamek doing that would also appease anton
  660. [2017-04-22 18:26:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M12 Favorite Supporting Character (Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Professor E. Gadd, Toadette, Captain Toad, Birdo, Kamek, Poochy)
  661. [2017-04-22 18:26:48] <Lakituthequick> i have notes on this one
  662. [2017-04-22 18:26:56] <Lakituthequick> E. => Elvin?
  663. [2017-04-22 18:26:58] <GBAToad> yep its good
  664. [2017-04-22 18:27:01] <shoutmon> 7no
  665. [2017-04-22 18:27:02] <GBAToad> also no
  666. [2017-04-22 18:27:04] <Meta_Knight> 10no
  667. [2017-04-22 18:27:05] <Lord_Bowser> no
  668. [2017-04-22 18:27:06] <shoutmon> 7hes never ever called that
  669. [2017-04-22 18:27:10] <GBAToad> no
  670. [2017-04-22 18:27:11] <turb> no
  671. [2017-04-22 18:27:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Charles Entertainment Cheese
  672. [2017-04-22 18:27:25] <Lakituthequick> its the name for the wiki page so i thought it note it
  673. [2017-04-22 18:27:27] <shoutmon> 7on the other hand, we could rename him dr. o. m. g.
  674. [2017-04-22 18:27:36] <shoutmon> 7is it really...
  675. [2017-04-22 18:27:40] <GBAToad> with bibbangs
  676. [2017-04-22 18:27:43] <Meta_Knight> 10that would be like if suddenly we changed daisy to Princess D.
  677. [2017-04-22 18:27:44] <shoutmon> 7thats bad
  678. [2017-04-22 18:28:00] <shoutmon> 7that shouldnt be like that im going to go complain to the wikki staff
  679. [2017-04-22 18:28:01] <Lord_Bowser> it is 22,,,
  680. [2017-04-22 18:28:07] <Lord_Bowser> do it
  681. [2017-04-22 18:28:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M13 Favorite Level Theme (Grasslands, Desert, Snow/Ice, Mountain, Underground, Beach, Sky, Jungle, Space, Fire, Ghost Houses, Underwater, Castle, Airship, Factory/Industrial, Carnival, City/Town)
  682. [2017-04-22 18:28:10] <shoutmon> 7(actually im not)
  683. [2017-04-22 18:28:16] <GBAToad> the whole article also never uses elvin from the looks of it
  684. [2017-04-22 18:28:19] <GBAToad> Bad
  685. [2017-04-22 18:28:30] <Meta_Knight> 10this award is fine
  686. [2017-04-22 18:28:37] <turb> im wiki staff
  687. [2017-04-22 18:28:41] <turb> idk who changed it to that
  688. [2017-04-22 18:28:48] <turb> i'm gonna go block them
  689. [2017-04-22 18:28:49] <turb> also move on
  690. [2017-04-22 18:28:50] <Lord_Bowser> ghost house being plural bothers me
  691. [2017-04-22 18:29:05] <Meta_Knight> 10grasslands is plural
  692. [2017-04-22 18:29:17] <Lord_Bowser> idk tho like castle is singular
  693. [2017-04-22 18:29:30] <Lakituthequick> those two are plural, the rest isnt
  694. [2017-04-22 18:29:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4those are the only plural ones and it doesn't matter if they're suddenly not, so
  695. [2017-04-22 18:29:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll change that
  696. [2017-04-22 18:29:46] <Lord_Bowser> okay
  697. [2017-04-22 18:29:51] <turb> sure
  698. [2017-04-22 18:29:55] <Lord_Bowser> move on then
  699. [2017-04-22 18:30:00] <turb> i think that should be it for this though
  700. [2017-04-22 18:30:04] <turb> the nominees themselves are fine
  701. [2017-04-22 18:30:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M14 Favorite Species (Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Boos, Shy Guys, Chain Chomps, Bob-ombs, Bullet Bills, Dry Bones, Hammer Bros., Wigglers, Chargin' Chucks, Lakitus, Yoshis, Toads, Lumas, Magikoopas)
  702. [2017-04-22 18:30:13] <shoutmon> 7did we remove athletic from this
  703. [2017-04-22 18:30:25] <GBAToad> aesthetic
  704. [2017-04-22 18:30:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we didn't touch M13
  705. [2017-04-22 18:30:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if it was removed that was done last year
  706. [2017-04-22 18:30:39] <shoutmon> 7oh
  707. [2017-04-22 18:30:39] <Lakituthequick> these are all plural
  708. [2017-04-22 18:31:04] <shoutmon> 7is athletic a level theme
  709. [2017-04-22 18:31:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4wait nvm this is new as of last year
  710. [2017-04-22 18:31:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so it couldn't have been removed last year
  711. [2017-04-22 18:31:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but it was also never on it
  712. [2017-04-22 18:31:24] <Lakituthequick> athletic is a way of platforming and may appear in all styles
  713. [2017-04-22 18:31:30] <Meta_Knight> 10its a music theme but it wouild be to tough to distinguish an athletic level on looks alone
  714. [2017-04-22 18:31:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so
  715. [2017-04-22 18:31:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M14 Favorite Species (Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Boos, Shy Guys, Chain Chomps, Bob-ombs, Bullet Bills, Dry Bones, Hammer Bros., Wigglers, Chargin' Chucks, Lakitus, Yoshis, Toads, Lumas, Magikoopas)
  716. [2017-04-22 18:31:56] <Meta_Knight> 10m14 is fine
  717. [2017-04-22 18:32:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4as much as it disgusts me
  718. [2017-04-22 18:32:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Humans is a valid suggestion
  719. [2017-04-22 18:32:15] <Lakituthequick> wat
  720. [2017-04-22 18:32:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it was one of the highest write-ins
  721. [2017-04-22 18:32:20] <Lord_Bowser> what,
  722. [2017-04-22 18:32:23] <GBAToad> AHA
  723. [2017-04-22 18:32:24] <shoutmon> 7how many votes did it get lol
  724. [2017-04-22 18:32:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and has been suggested from outside the committee
  725. [2017-04-22 18:32:34] <GBAToad> by whom
  726. [2017-04-22 18:32:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yoshi876
  727. [2017-04-22 18:32:41] <Meta_Knight> 10that sounds so stupid though
  728. [2017-04-22 18:32:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i trust him
  729. [2017-04-22 18:32:42] <Meta_Knight> 10oh
  730. [2017-04-22 18:32:43] <Meta_Knight> 10well
  731. [2017-04-22 18:32:44] <Meta_Knight> 10i ean
  732. [2017-04-22 18:32:45] <Meta_Knight> 10*mean
  733. [2017-04-22 18:32:55] <Meta_Knight> 10i think that it will be more valid after odyssey comes out
  734. [2017-04-22 18:32:59] <GBAToad> can we hold off until mk odyssey
  735. [2017-04-22 18:33:09] <Lakituthequick> yeah
  736. [2017-04-22 18:33:20] <Lord_Bowser> yeah save it for next year
  737. [2017-04-22 18:33:21] <Meta_Knight> 10then there will actually be real humans
  738. [2017-04-22 18:33:22] <GBAToad> i mean technically theyre still relevant
  739. [2017-04-22 18:33:30] <Lakituthequick> unless mario and peach count id say leave it for now
  740. [2017-04-22 18:33:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4"A lot of the main characters (Mario, Luigi, Wario, etc.) are human, and quite a few appearing in the dic cartoons, so I'm not sure whether it'd be worth adding humans in as a favourite species"
  741. [2017-04-22 18:33:33] <shoutmon> 7looking at the thing
  742. [2017-04-22 18:33:40] <Lord_Bowser> add miis /s
  743. [2017-04-22 18:33:40] <shoutmon> 7bowsers did better
  744. [2017-04-22 18:33:47] <shoutmon> 7we should add bowsers if anything
  745. [2017-04-22 18:33:51] <turb> i mean
  746. [2017-04-22 18:33:52] * GBAToad strangles LB
  747. [2017-04-22 18:33:56] <turb> im not opposed to adding bowsers i guess
  748. [2017-04-22 18:34:00] <Lakituthequick> would that be like
  749. [2017-04-22 18:34:03] <Lakituthequick> 'koopalings'
  750. [2017-04-22 18:34:03] <turb> it would just have to be Bowser's species i guess
  751. [2017-04-22 18:34:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I am because we don't have a word for it and it's also not a thing
  752. [2017-04-22 18:34:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Humans are a thing, though
  753. [2017-04-22 18:34:18] <GBAToad> Bowser (species)
  754. [2017-04-22 18:34:24] <shoutmon> 7i mean theres several major characters of this species
  755. [2017-04-22 18:34:31] <turb> i mean idk like i don't feel opposed to it since there's major characters of the species yeah
  756. [2017-04-22 18:34:32] <shoutmon> 7at least 9
  757. [2017-04-22 18:34:35] <Lakituthequick> was human every offically stated by intendo though
  758. [2017-04-22 18:34:36] <turb> but it feels off because nintendo never fucking
  759. [2017-04-22 18:34:44] <turb> gave a word for them
  760. [2017-04-22 18:34:48] <GBAToad> wait for odyssey is my biggest take
  761. [2017-04-22 18:34:51] <turb> so they could just fall under fucking koopas for all we know
  762. [2017-04-22 18:34:53] <Meta_Knight> 10nintendo refers to yoshis as yoshis, toads as toads, etc
  763. [2017-04-22 18:35:01] <turb> i'm fine with humans too i guess but yeah i'd prefer waiting for odyssey
  764. [2017-04-22 18:35:09] <Meta_Knight> 10humas are a thing but its not like they say mario is of the humans species
  765. [2017-04-22 18:35:11] <GBAToad> maybe nintendo will give them a weird species name like Donkians
  766. [2017-04-22 18:35:15] <Lakituthequick> bowser is really koopa in japanese
  767. [2017-04-22 18:35:16] <turb> Mario (species)
  768. [2017-04-22 18:35:23] <Lakituthequick> then again koopa is nokonoko so
  769. [2017-04-22 18:35:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4why are we waiting on odyssey
  770. [2017-04-22 18:35:38] <turb> because humans will be more relevant then i assume
  771. [2017-04-22 18:35:39] <Lakituthequick> because new donk city
  772. [2017-04-22 18:35:40] <Meta_Knight> 10because there's real humans as opposed to cartoony ones idk
  773. [2017-04-22 18:35:45] <turb> i mean, i guess we can just add them in now if we want
  774. [2017-04-22 18:35:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4does odyssey suddenly canonize mario, peach, etc. as humans
  775. [2017-04-22 18:35:48] <turb> because they do exist in golf
  776. [2017-04-22 18:35:53] <turb> and mario, peach, etc. are all humans
  777. [2017-04-22 18:35:56] <Meta_Knight> 10i guess thats true
  778. [2017-04-22 18:36:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the wiki literally has a page for Humans
  779. [2017-04-22 18:36:03] <turb> even if nintendo doesn't want to acknowledge that in any way for some reason
  780. [2017-04-22 18:36:03] <GBAToad> golf is a good point as well
  781. [2017-04-22 18:36:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4including Mario etc.
  782. [2017-04-22 18:36:15] <Lakituthequick> to be fair mario and peach have vastly different aestics from donk humans
  783. [2017-04-22 18:36:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I mean I'm gonna be 50000% sure to actively avoid voting for Humans
  784. [2017-04-22 18:36:50] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah i think its fair to add it
  785. [2017-04-22 18:36:54] <Lord_Bowser> if humans gets in top 3 i will die inside
  786. [2017-04-22 18:36:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I think it's a solid nominee option
  787. [2017-04-22 18:37:02] <turb> yeah i guess
  788. [2017-04-22 18:37:02] <Lord_Bowser> but i guess it is a valid option
  789. [2017-04-22 18:37:03] <GBAToad> i mean as people are bringing things up ive kinda backed down from my knee jerk reaction
  790. [2017-04-22 18:37:08] <turb> it's still valid
  791. [2017-04-22 18:37:10] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah
  792. [2017-04-22 18:37:14] <Meta_Knight> 10per gbatoad
  793. [2017-04-22 18:37:14] <turb> i feel ____ about it but that's a personal issue
  794. [2017-04-22 18:37:19] <Lakituthequick> technically valid but it feels wrong somewhy
  795. [2017-04-22 18:37:21] <shoutmon> 7can we just change the name of the award to 'favorite mario species' so real-world species are excluded lol
  796. [2017-04-22 18:37:21] <turb> i'm just gonna write in duplighosts
  797. [2017-04-22 18:37:27] <GBAToad> do we have a definition to only include enemy species
  798. [2017-04-22 18:37:36] <GBAToad> or like what 22 said
  799. [2017-04-22 18:37:43] <Lakituthequick> or do what 22 says
  800. [2017-04-22 18:37:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Related Species Cave People Mii
  801. [2017-04-22 18:37:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4lol
  802. [2017-04-22 18:37:55] <Lakituthequick> add Mii
  803. [2017-04-22 18:37:57] <GBAToad> what
  804. [2017-04-22 18:38:12] <dia> ah
  805. [2017-04-22 18:38:16] <GBAToad> miis are not really mario though
  806. [2017-04-22 18:38:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4also I'm not going to change the award title and definition just to avoid humans
  807. [2017-04-22 18:38:24] <Lakituthequick> are humans ?
  808. [2017-04-22 18:38:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we can just decide to not add them
  809. [2017-04-22 18:38:42] <Lakituthequick> yes please
  810. [2017-04-22 18:38:56] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Humans" to M14? (y/n/a)
  811. [2017-04-22 18:39:00] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  812. [2017-04-22 18:39:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4almost typed vore
  813. [2017-04-22 18:39:03] <GBAToad> y
  814. [2017-04-22 18:39:07] <Lakituthequick> n
  815. [2017-04-22 18:39:10] <Lord_Bowser> a
  816. [2017-04-22 18:39:10] <shoutmon> 7n
  817. [2017-04-22 18:39:13] <Meta_Knight> 10as much as it _ me i think its fair to add it
  818. [2017-04-22 18:39:29] <turb> a
  819. [2017-04-22 18:39:33] <Meta_Knight> 10best case scenario it does horribly and we remove it
  820. [2017-04-22 18:39:38] <Lord_Bowser> 2-2-2
  821. [2017-04-22 18:39:42] <GBAToad> per mk
  822. [2017-04-22 18:40:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4too close to call so they won't be added
  823. [2017-04-22 18:40:25] <GBAToad> lets add inklings :^)
  824. [2017-04-22 18:40:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I'll just earmark it as a thing to check out how it performs
  825. [2017-04-22 18:40:50] <turb> i mean idk ill switch from a to y
  826. [2017-04-22 18:40:55] <turb> so 3-2-1
  827. [2017-04-22 18:40:58] <dia> a
  828. [2017-04-22 18:40:59] <turb> but that's still close af
  829. [2017-04-22 18:41:18] <GBAToad> i still want nintendo to call them donkians
  830. [2017-04-22 18:41:35] <shoutmon> 7im only willing to add humans if we add bowsers
  831. [2017-04-22 18:41:37] <dia> fine y
  832. [2017-04-22 18:41:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I hope they're like dream people in inception
  833. [2017-04-22 18:41:43] <Lakituthequick> add Donkians to the dictionary
  834. [2017-04-22 18:41:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4where they have no sentience beyond becoming angry at outsiders
  835. [2017-04-22 18:42:08] <GBAToad> and skipping rope
  836. [2017-04-22 18:42:18] <shoutmon> 7it doesnt make any sense to not add it, and then add something else that did worse
  837. [2017-04-22 18:42:57] <dia> i mean sure
  838. [2017-04-22 18:43:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's not exactly a standard we have set for adding write-ins
  839. [2017-04-22 18:43:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's just how we usually go
  840. [2017-04-22 18:43:28] <Lakituthequick> i say \|/ continue |>
  841. [2017-04-22 18:43:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M15 Hardest Boss (Shadow Queen, Bonetail, Cackletta's Soul, Culex, Elder Princess Shroob, Bowser (Paper Mario), Bowser X (Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story), Smithy, The Master (Final Form), Dreamy Bowser, Phantamanta, Boolossus, Kamek & Paper Kamek)
  842. [2017-04-22 18:43:50] <shoutmon> 7you say continue while dancing?
  843. [2017-04-22 18:43:59] <Lakituthequick> why did we go for & again
  844. [2017-04-22 18:44:22] <shoutmon> 7a ehow
  845. [2017-04-22 18:44:24] <Lakituthequick> i tried ans art for the tbc sign in reverse but e
  846. [2017-04-22 18:44:26] <shoutmon> 7god dammit
  847. [2017-04-22 18:44:29] <Lakituthequick> *ansi
  848. [2017-04-22 18:44:35] <shoutmon> 7is & bad somehow
  849. [2017-04-22 18:44:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4well in mario & luigi that's because that's the name of the game
  850. [2017-04-22 18:44:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4for Kamek & Paper Kamek, idk
  851. [2017-04-22 18:44:53] <dia> isnt & part of the normal title
  852. [2017-04-22 18:44:57] <Meta_Knight> 10i'd leave it
  853. [2017-04-22 18:44:58] <Lakituthequick> well i have more &-points on my list
  854. [2017-04-22 18:45:02] <Meta_Knight> 10less characters
  855. [2017-04-22 18:45:09] <Lakituthequick> but wiki pages dont use that for combi-characters
  856. [2017-04-22 18:45:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4why should we change it
  857. [2017-04-22 18:45:22] <Lakituthequick> Ashley and Red, not Ashley & Red
  858. [2017-04-22 18:45:43] <turb> i mean i just
  859. [2017-04-22 18:45:51] <GBAToad> :ashley:
  860. [2017-04-22 18:45:54] <turb> i dont understand why this is a huge issue as long as people understand what they're voting for
  861. [2017-04-22 18:45:58] <shoutmon> 7ashley and red share a wiki page?
  862. [2017-04-22 18:45:58] <dia> i think its fine
  863. [2017-04-22 18:45:59] <Lakituthequick> props preference but i like to follow the way wiki names things
  864. [2017-04-22 18:46:00] <GBAToad> exactly
  865. [2017-04-22 18:46:11] <GBAToad> per turb
  866. [2017-04-22 18:46:21] <Lakituthequick> yeah ashley and red share a page
  867. [2017-04-22 18:46:26] <Lakituthequick> https://www.mariowiki.com/Ashley_and_Red
  868. [2017-04-22 18:46:32] <dia> doesnt the wiki use
  869. [2017-04-22 18:46:35] <dia> &
  870. [2017-04-22 18:46:35] <shoutmon> 7weird
  871. [2017-04-22 18:46:43] <Lakituthequick> it doesnit dia
  872. [2017-04-22 18:46:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the wiki gives nothing for "kamek and/& paper kamek"
  873. [2017-04-22 18:46:56] <shoutmon> 7youd think with the wiki's stated policy of having a separate page for everything
  874. [2017-04-22 18:46:57] <Meta_Knight> 10probalby because links cant handle that
  875. [2017-04-22 18:47:02] <shoutmon> 7like every mission in smg
  876. [2017-04-22 18:47:11] <Meta_Knight> 10becasue even in the shroom links ' gets turned nto %27 sometimes
  877. [2017-04-22 18:47:16] <Lakituthequick> links can very well handle that
  878. [2017-04-22 18:47:16] <Meta_Knight> 10but this wont be alink
  879. [2017-04-22 18:47:19] <Meta_Knight> 10it should be fine with just &
  880. [2017-04-22 18:47:22] <shoutmon> 7they would have separate pages for ashley and red
  881. [2017-04-22 18:47:24] <shoutmon> 7oh well
  882. [2017-04-22 18:47:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but with Ashley and Red I feel obligated to do that for kamek so
  883. [2017-04-22 18:47:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll just do that
  884. [2017-04-22 18:47:45] <dia> ok
  885. [2017-04-22 18:47:48] <Meta_Knight> 10okay
  886. [2017-04-22 18:48:00] <Lakituthequick> i have about 6 &'s on my list to come
  887. [2017-04-22 18:49:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I just removed a few so lol
  888. [2017-04-22 18:49:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but
  889. [2017-04-22 18:49:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M16 Favorite Item (Tanooki Suit/Super Leaf, Super Star/Starman, Fire Flower, Mega Mushroom, Metal Cap, Wing Cap, Bullet Bill, Propeller Mushroom, Penguin Suit, Cloud Flower, Cape Feather, Gold Flower, Cat Suit/Super Bell, Double Cherry, Super Horn, Mystery Mushroom)
  890. [2017-04-22 18:49:23] <GBAToad> skip
  891. [2017-04-22 18:49:30] <Meta_Knight> 10this seems okay
  892. [2017-04-22 18:49:33] <turb> skip
  893. [2017-04-22 18:49:39] <Lord_Bowser> !skip
  894. [2017-04-22 18:49:45] <Lakituthequick> i have a point on this one too
  895. [2017-04-22 18:49:54] <shoutmon> 7should it specify that its the smm mystery mushroom
  896. [2017-04-22 18:49:58] <Lakituthequick> copy past:
  897. [2017-04-22 18:50:00] <Lakituthequick> Order of slashed nominees, first the item and then the form you take on, or vice versa?
  898. [2017-04-22 18:50:01] <shoutmon> 7instead of the smb3 one
  899. [2017-04-22 18:50:01] <Lakituthequick> Super Star currently has it different from the other two.
  900. [2017-04-22 18:50:03] <Lakituthequick> Or just take the form away.
  901. [2017-04-22 18:50:20] <turb> oh was there a mystery mushroom in smb3
  902. [2017-04-22 18:50:28] <GBAToad> this is news to me
  903. [2017-04-22 18:50:33] <Lord_Bowser> isn't that the reverse mushroom
  904. [2017-04-22 18:50:35] <shoutmon> 7yeah idk if thats the official name
  905. [2017-04-22 18:50:39] <shoutmon> 7was it
  906. [2017-04-22 18:50:45] <shoutmon> 7ok
  907. [2017-04-22 18:50:54] <Lord_Bowser> if you mean the battle mode one then yes iirc
  908. [2017-04-22 18:51:16] <GBAToad> smb3 or mp3
  909. [2017-04-22 18:51:20] <shoutmon> 7smb3
  910. [2017-04-22 18:51:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll flip super leaf
  911. [2017-04-22 18:51:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4since this is the item award, we'll set that as the first
  912. [2017-04-22 18:52:01] <shoutmon> 7afaik starman super star are BOTH names for the item
  913. [2017-04-22 18:52:13] <shoutmon> 7the form is 'invincible [character]'
  914. [2017-04-22 18:52:16] <Lord_Bowser> yeah they are
  915. [2017-04-22 18:52:26] <Lord_Bowser> starman is more often used though
  916. [2017-04-22 18:52:27] <Lakituthequick> i see it as
  917. [2017-04-22 18:52:38] <Lakituthequick> super star makes you a starman
  918. [2017-04-22 18:52:48] <Lakituthequick> but it doesnt make a lot of sense indeed
  919. [2017-04-22 18:52:49] <shoutmon> 7ok but youre wrong
  920. [2017-04-22 18:52:55] <shoutmon> 7the item is called starman
  921. [2017-04-22 18:53:01] <Lakituthequick> correct
  922. [2017-04-22 18:53:03] <shoutmon> 7in the official material
  923. [2017-04-22 18:53:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4with this, though
  924. [2017-04-22 18:53:04] <Lord_Bowser> oh wait the wiki calls them super star
  925. [2017-04-22 18:53:09] <Lakituthequick> but in this form it looks like that
  926. [2017-04-22 18:53:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4does that mean we should just lob off "tanooki suit"
  927. [2017-04-22 18:53:13] <shoutmon> 7but i think its only old material
  928. [2017-04-22 18:53:24] <Lakituthequick> it would make it consistent anton
  929. [2017-04-22 18:53:28] <shoutmon> 7i would do it the other way
  930. [2017-04-22 18:53:33] <shoutmon> 7remove the leaf
  931. [2017-04-22 18:53:40] <shoutmon> 7because: the suit itself was an item in mario 3
  932. [2017-04-22 18:53:51] <GBAToad> Yeah but the leaf was also an item in 3
  933. [2017-04-22 18:53:55] <Lakituthequick> but the leaf is the item in this context?
  934. [2017-04-22 18:53:59] <GBAToad> And sm3dl
  935. [2017-04-22 18:54:00] <shoutmon> 7thats my point
  936. [2017-04-22 18:54:03] <Lakituthequick> the suit is the result
  937. [2017-04-22 18:54:15] <shoutmon> 7the leaf has inconsistent properties between the two games
  938. [2017-04-22 18:54:19] <shoutmon> 7if you just include the leaf
  939. [2017-04-22 18:54:32] <shoutmon> 7people wont know what version of ittheyre voting for
  940. [2017-04-22 18:54:33] <Lakituthequick> oh yeah
  941. [2017-04-22 18:54:36] <Lakituthequick> one gives you a suit
  942. [2017-04-22 18:54:37] <turb> oh thats fair
  943. [2017-04-22 18:54:37] <shoutmon> 7the suit was only an item once
  944. [2017-04-22 18:54:40] <shoutmon> 7so its clearer
  945. [2017-04-22 18:54:43] <Lakituthequick> the other just funny ears
  946. [2017-04-22 18:54:46] <turb> the suit is usually what people think of anyway
  947. [2017-04-22 18:54:47] <Lakituthequick> and a tail
  948. [2017-04-22 18:54:51] <GBAToad> yeah
  949. [2017-04-22 18:54:58] <Lakituthequick> but dont they do the exact same thing?
  950. [2017-04-22 18:55:04] <shoutmon> 7no
  951. [2017-04-22 18:55:09] <shoutmon> 7god its confusing
  952. [2017-04-22 18:55:12] <Lord_Bowser> no the suit in smb3 ddoes the statue thing
  953. [2017-04-22 18:55:16] <Lord_Bowser> does*
  954. [2017-04-22 18:55:24] <shoutmon> 7the SUIT in smb3 is like the STONE LEAF in sm3dl
  955. [2017-04-22 18:55:39] <turb> the leaf in smb3 just gives you flight and ears
  956. [2017-04-22 18:55:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4delete nintendo
  957. [2017-04-22 18:55:41] <turb> iirc
  958. [2017-04-22 18:55:43] <Lakituthequick> gdi nintendo get your consistency together
  959. [2017-04-22 18:55:43] <shoutmon> 7the LEAF in smb3 is like the ORGANIC LEAF in smdl
  960. [2017-04-22 18:55:50] <Meta_Knight> 10i support deleting nintendo
  961. [2017-04-22 18:55:53] <Lakituthequick> > organic leaf
  962. [2017-04-22 18:56:04] <shoutmon> 7its not actually called that
  963. [2017-04-22 18:56:06] <Lord_Bowser> free range leaf
  964. [2017-04-22 18:56:09] <shoutmon> 7but if i just said 'leaf' it would be confusing
  965. [2017-04-22 18:56:19] <shoutmon> 7the leaf thats not made of stone and isnt white
  966. [2017-04-22 18:56:31] <Lakituthequick> organic makes the other sound like plactic i mean
  967. [2017-04-22 18:56:44] <shoutmon> 7its not
  968. [2017-04-22 18:56:44] <shoutmon> 7its stone
  969. [2017-04-22 18:56:46] <shoutmon> 7thats the point
  970. [2017-04-22 18:56:51] <Lakituthequick> even worse
  971. [2017-04-22 18:56:59] <Lord_Bowser> but stone is natural
  972. [2017-04-22 18:57:09] <shoutmon> 7but its not organic
  973. [2017-04-22 18:57:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so from what I'm personally pulling from this is
  974. [2017-04-22 18:57:23] <GBAToad> awards cancelled over a leaf
  975. [2017-04-22 18:57:24] <shoutmon> 7??
  976. [2017-04-22 18:57:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4turning this one nominee into like 5 because nintendo swapped definitions every game
  977. [2017-04-22 18:57:48] <shoutmon> 7i still say we should just remove the leaf and only include the suit
  978. [2017-04-22 18:57:54] <shoutmon> 7the suit is cooler
  979. [2017-04-22 18:58:03] <shoutmon> 7it lets you turn to stone and be a furry
  980. [2017-04-22 18:58:06] <Lord_Bowser> the suit is furry bait
  981. [2017-04-22 18:58:15] <Lakituthequick> i'm almost rofl
  982. [2017-04-22 18:58:25] <turb> id say the suit is more iconic anyway
  983. [2017-04-22 18:58:27] <shoutmon> 7the leaf just lets you fly and be a catgirl
  984. [2017-04-22 18:58:40] <Lakituthequick> >catgirl
  985. [2017-04-22 18:58:49] <Lakituthequick> like
  986. [2017-04-22 18:58:54] <Lakituthequick> stick to walls?
  987. [2017-04-22 18:58:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4do we want Super Leaf to be its own separate ominee
  988. [2017-04-22 18:58:56] <Anton{Politoed}> 4n
  989. [2017-04-22 18:59:03] <shoutmon> 7n
  990. [2017-04-22 18:59:03] <GBAToad> ñ
  991. [2017-04-22 18:59:10] <Lakituthequick> i honestly
  992. [2017-04-22 18:59:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that n was because of a typo
  993. [2017-04-22 18:59:15] <Lakituthequick> dont know anymore
  994. [2017-04-22 18:59:16] <Meta_Knight> 10a
  995. [2017-04-22 18:59:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but
  996. [2017-04-22 18:59:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we could say "Super Leaf (3D games)"
  997. [2017-04-22 18:59:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4or something
  998. [2017-04-22 19:00:02] <Lakituthequick> wiki has a nice infobox summary
  999. [2017-04-22 19:00:07] <shoutmon> 7theres like 3 of those though
  1000. [2017-04-22 19:00:10] <Lakituthequick> Effect on Player:
  1001. [2017-04-22 19:00:12] <Lakituthequick> Turns Mario / Luigi into Raccoon Mario / Fox Luigi (Super Mario Bros. 3, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U, and Super Mario Maker), Tanooki Mario / Kitsune Luigi (Super Mario 3D Land, Super Mario 3D World) or gives karts a tail (Mario Kart 7).
  1002. [2017-04-22 19:00:15] <shoutmon> 7the leaf, the stone leaf, and the white leaf
  1003. [2017-04-22 19:00:41] <Lakituthequick> (this is Super Leaf)
  1004. [2017-04-22 19:01:02] <dia> ñ
  1005. [2017-04-22 19:01:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4(((((we'll finish this decision then end the meeting))))))))))
  1006. [2017-04-22 19:01:07] <meowth> 12oh
  1007. [2017-04-22 19:01:16] <meowth> 12what are we doing right now
  1008. [2017-04-22 19:01:21] <meowth> 12im reading
  1009. [2017-04-22 19:01:22] <Lakituthequick> super leaf (3d) would work
  1010. [2017-04-22 19:01:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if we're to hold to the wiki, "Super Leaf" on its own could just be a nominee and nintendo swapping the definitions is just tough luck
  1011. [2017-04-22 19:01:34] <GBAToad> exactly
  1012. [2017-04-22 19:01:43] <shoutmon> 7i find that weird
  1013. [2017-04-22 19:01:54] <shoutmon> 7its the effecdt that people are likely to care about
  1014. [2017-04-22 19:01:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I think separating it to "Tanooki Suit" and "Super Leaf (3D games)" is the most fair and recognizable
  1015. [2017-04-22 19:01:57] <shoutmon> 7not the actual item
  1016. [2017-04-22 19:02:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah
  1017. [2017-04-22 19:02:19] <Lakituthequick> so
  1018. [2017-04-22 19:02:28] <GBAToad> i support the separation
  1019. [2017-04-22 19:02:29] <Lakituthequick> change all of the nominees again?
  1020. [2017-04-22 19:02:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4not all, just those
  1021. [2017-04-22 19:02:38] <Lakituthequick> to be the result
  1022. [2017-04-22 19:02:41] <dia> seems fair
  1023. [2017-04-22 19:02:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4no
  1024. [2017-04-22 19:02:56] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because not all have results that can be easily phrased like this does
  1025. [2017-04-22 19:03:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4just because one item is a clusterfuck doesn't mean we should dismantle the rest of the award
  1026. [2017-04-22 19:03:14] <meowth> 12i don't really have an opinion on this
  1027. [2017-04-22 19:03:37] <shoutmon> 7the other two are unambiguous anyway
  1028. [2017-04-22 19:03:45] <dia> im fine with an exception on a nominee by nominee basis
  1029. [2017-04-22 19:03:46] <shoutmon> 7starman and super star are the same thing all the time
  1030. [2017-04-22 19:03:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4well let's vote on this
  1031. [2017-04-22 19:04:08] <shoutmon> 7as are cat suit and super bell or wahtever
  1032. [2017-04-22 19:04:09] <dia> rather than trying to fit all of the nominees into the same hole
  1033. [2017-04-22 19:04:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: separate "Super Leaf/Tanooki Suit" to two separate nominees "Tanooki Suit" and "Super Leaf (3D games)"? (y/n/a)
  1034. [2017-04-22 19:04:38] <GBAToad> y
  1035. [2017-04-22 19:04:41] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  1036. [2017-04-22 19:04:41] <shoutmon> 7a
  1037. [2017-04-22 19:04:46] <Lakituthequick> y
  1038. [2017-04-22 19:04:47] <meowth> 12a
  1039. [2017-04-22 19:04:51] <dia> y
  1040. [2017-04-22 19:04:54] <Lord_Bowser> a
  1041. [2017-04-22 19:04:55] <turb> hi i've been ignoring this because idk what the fuck is up with nintendo's definitions and they scare me
  1042. [2017-04-22 19:05:02] <meowth> 124-0-3
  1043. [2017-04-22 19:05:02] <turb> but y i guess
  1044. [2017-04-22 19:05:07] <GBAToad> and can we also vote on dropping cat suit since its not an actual item unlike the tanooki suit
  1045. [2017-04-22 19:05:11] <meowth> 125-0-3
  1046. [2017-04-22 19:05:13] -->| Toadbert (HELPME@e8484u1s16852280q.ss.shawcable.net) has joined #mwikiawards
  1047. [2017-04-22 19:05:15] <GBAToad> or can we just drop it entirely
  1048. [2017-04-22 19:05:20] <GBAToad> without a vote
  1049. [2017-04-22 19:05:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4sure
  1050. [2017-04-22 19:06:14] <meowth> 12nintendo is cancelled
  1051. [2017-04-22 19:06:21] <Lakituthequick> well super bell is actually listed so
  1052. [2017-04-22 19:06:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any other concerns with M16?
  1053. [2017-04-22 19:06:33] <Lakituthequick> i'd say drop the suit part
  1054. [2017-04-22 19:06:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I've erased cat suit
  1055. [2017-04-22 19:06:53] <GBAToad> thats what i said and anton has done
  1056. [2017-04-22 19:06:56] <GBAToad> yay
  1057. [2017-04-22 19:06:57] <Lakituthequick> same with starman?
  1058. [2017-04-22 19:07:10] <shoutmon> 7sstarman is a pretty outdated name
  1059. [2017-04-22 19:07:13] <shoutmon> 7i dont think we need it
  1060. [2017-04-22 19:07:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4starman is the name of the item but _
  1061. [2017-04-22 19:07:30] <Lakituthequick> like
  1062. [2017-04-22 19:07:32] <Lakituthequick> 20 years ago
  1063. [2017-04-22 19:07:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4literally everyone knows what super star is though
  1064. [2017-04-22 19:07:50] <dia> yeah i dont know what star man is
  1065. [2017-04-22 19:07:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if some nerds write in starman then next year we'll reconsider
  1066. [2017-04-22 19:07:55] <GBAToad> so yeah drop starman tbhimo
  1067. [2017-04-22 19:08:02] <shoutmon> 7yeah starman is the name of the itme from hundreds ofyears ago
  1068. [2017-04-22 19:08:11] <shoutmon> 7i dont think nintendo uses it at all anymore
  1069. [2017-04-22 19:08:12] <GBAToad> final starman
  1070. [2017-04-22 19:08:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok gr8 we did it
  1071. [2017-04-22 19:08:24] <Lord_Bowser> ghost of starman
  1072. [2017-04-22 19:08:29] <GBAToad> add david bowie to favourite item
  1073. [2017-04-22 19:08:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next meeting we will pick up where we left off, resuming with M17
  1074. [2017-04-22 19:08:45] <GBAToad> oh fuck that msg timing
  1075. [2017-04-22 19:08:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and also finish C11
  1076. [2017-04-22 19:09:15] <turb> :clap:
  1077. [2017-04-22 19:09:25] * Anton{Politoed} 4slams a squeaky toy gavel
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