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- “Well, I would like to say that, as far as I'm aware, the Franke side of the family has had limited– like um, *really* limited contact with Ruby and Kevin. My family specifically, we had kind of a falling out around when I was born; Ruby was really critical of my mom when one of my siblings was going through cancer and she obviously wasn't… she didn't receive that very well, and so, that kind of distance us a bit… and I think some of that kind of stuff also distanced them from some of the other Frankes as well. That, and Kevin - to my understanding - not really reaching out to them particularly often either.”
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- “I've made the mistake of going through like social media comments and stuff like that and they've been, you know, making suggestions that, like, my family in particular and the other people on the Franke side of the family had some idea that any of this was going on, and that's been a little hard to read because, you know, we haven't really seen Ruby for, like… 10 years… and so it’s, uh… it was infuriating reading some of those things because it's like, that's– we have… nothing to do with her really [awkward laugh] but yet you somehow thought that we had something, like we knew what was going on.”
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- “Obviously, I’m really concerned about [R’s name] and [E’s name], because, you know, I’ve been thinking back on memories where, like, we have seen them at Christmas family reunions and stuff - you know, trying to think, like, ‘Was there anything I could have seen that could have suggested anything like that was going on?’”
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- Q. “Well, Matthew is that the case? Have you not seen Ruby in a long time? When do you think the last time you saw her was?”
- A. “The last time, so, um… We have never like… met for really long periods of time. The last time I saw her specifically was… I think… two years ago. when I had lunch with my cousin, Shari, who– I would like to add, [shaking head] never spoke to me about any of this, and never made any indication that anything was going on, and I really wish that she would have– [clears throat] but she and I were having lunch, and Kevin and Ruby tagged along, as well as my parents. And so we sat around for… [shakes head] a couple hours and then… kind of, just, parted ways for the rest of the year, pretty much.”
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- “For anyone who thinks that what Ruby did was typical, you know, Mormon behavior, it's not. That's something I've seen circulating around on the internet, that's… [shakes head in disbelief] As someone who was a member, it's not even something that the church would even consider, and I don't know why any church would… Gosh, yeah, I’m just remembering I read that article recently about the honey, peppers, and stuff that that they found, that was… [blinks in shock/disgust] awesome, I don’t know if you’ve seen that…”
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- Q. “[…] have you ever heard of Jodi Hildebrandt before all of this?
- A. “I didn’t know who she was before she met Ruby. We had kind of heard through the grapevine… I think somebody… I think, like, my Aunt Eileen or somebody brought it up on their family group chat when Ruby and them started ConneXions. We were suspicious of Jodi. We didn't really know anything about like her reputation and her background and things.”
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- “[…] As sad as I am to say it, I think Kevin should be arrested too. He… [sigh] Me and my dad have been having a hard time believing that he had zero contact with his family, that he had no idea that [shaking head] Ruby would leave them for long stretches of time, because, you know, he at least had to have stayed in contact with Shari, because he… was part of overseeing her, um… like her car, and her student stuff at BYU, [clears throat] and so some of that had to have made its way through. So, at the very least, I think he should be he should be brought up on neglect charges because that's not acceptable.”
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- Q. “Have you talked to Shari or Chad or any of your other cousins about any of this in the last few weeks since all this came out?”
- A. “No, I reached out to Shari, I think the day after Ruby was arrested and the articles started coming out, you know, I messaged her and said, “Hey”, you know, “what's going on, are you okay, is there something I can do to help,” and she never has– she hasn't responded to me since. So, l'm not really sure what's going on there, but I hope to hear from them soon.”
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- “[…] As for as my aunt, I think she definitely needs to do time. I don't know what the future will hold for her… if this was maybe just… her being led down the wrong path but she needs…[shakes head] she needs to not be in public anymore.”
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- “[…] because people are recognizing my name now around school and work. I’m kinda a little nervous about introducing myself because, like, I don’t really have any affiliation and so that’s part of why I’m talking to you [KUTV2 News] and when I talk to Inside Edition, is because I want to clear the air on that.”
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