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  1. [4:06:19 PM] Deborah Loperfido: Hugh I am putting in the mail to you your prescription card...
  2. Also you will be receiving a dental card as soon as I get them
  3.  
  4. Also don't know how long job will last as bug issue with this autistic child I am supporting so if you need medical stuff done like a good check up go now
  5. [4:06:35 PM] Deborah Loperfido: Bug=big
  6. [4:28:19 PM] *** Missed call from Deborah Loperfido. ***
  7. [4:28:47 PM] Deborah Loperfido: should I call Katherine? can't get your attention
  8. [4:29:07 PM] Hugh Twomey: Hi! Sorry about that! I'm about to leave!
  9. [4:29:24 PM] Hugh Twomey: Please do not ever under any circumstances save for an actual emergency call Katherine.
  10. [4:29:29 PM] Deborah Loperfido: what are your hours and days of work?
  11. [4:29:35 PM] Hugh Twomey: I don't wanna have to tell her to block you if you abuse that power.
  12. [4:29:45 PM] Hugh Twomey: They're awful. Two days a week, four hours a day.
  13. [4:30:08 PM] Deborah Loperfido: Hughie you have to stop threatening me it's really needless
  14. [4:30:42 PM] Deborah Loperfido: you get 8 hours for the whole week? after all that trouble? don't despair .... it's a job to start and you can put it on your CV
  15. [4:31:05 PM] Hugh Twomey: It's not a threat, it's protecting my friend, y'know? She's not obligated to act as a vector between you and I, that's a service she's willingly provided.
  16. [4:31:38 PM] Hugh Twomey: And yeah, it's just a starter. :D No biggie.
  17. [4:32:05 PM] Deborah Loperfido: that's fine ... have her block me .... you dont' respond to emails or skypes ... so I never know if you are ok or moved or sick and no one contacts me to let me know have her block me that's fine
  18. [4:32:48 PM] Hugh Twomey: If anything of tremendous note happens, mom, I'll tell you. <3 So far, it's been a whole lot of nothing; I've just been busy trying to set up a life and catching up with people and all that good stuff, y'know?
  19. [4:33:42 PM] Deborah Loperfido: you won't be able to tell me if you are in a hospital you can let her block me ask her please or I will ask her your dad will contact me if anything that's ok
  20. [4:33:56 PM] Hugh Twomey: If I'm in a hospital, there are people that have your contact information. <3
  21. [4:34:30 PM] Hugh Twomey: Kat doesn't want to block you, as it happens; she's dealing with a lot of stuff herself, though, and would prefer not deal with -our- stuff by proxy, too.
  22. [4:34:32 PM] Hugh Twomey: That's all it is. <3
  23. [4:34:45 PM] Deborah Loperfido: don't know who so they won't get through on my phone as my phone doesn't allow unknown to get through
  24. [4:35:15 PM] Hugh Twomey: I mean, in that case, if I'm hospitalized, then there's nothing anyone can do to reach you anyways- I mean, they have dad's contact info, too, so there's that.
  25. [4:35:22 PM] Hugh Twomey: So he could reach you in an emergency.
  26. [4:36:06 PM] Deborah Loperfido: go to work I sent a medical card to you next is going a pharmacy card stay in network when I get dental card I will send it to you as well you can read all the stuff in the booklet I sent you
  27. [4:36:25 PM] Hugh Twomey: Thank you. :) Is there anything I need to sign or anything like that?
  28. [4:36:52 PM] Deborah Loperfido: nope nothing anyone can do if dad can contact me I don't know how he doesn't have my number and I don't check emails often either
  29. [4:37:19 PM] Deborah Loperfido: nothing you have to do with the cards keep them all in yoru wallet they are activated
  30. [4:37:38 PM] Hugh Twomey: “If a problem is fixable, if a situation is such that you can do something about it, then there is no need to worry. If it's not fixable, then there is no help in worrying. There is no benefit in worrying whatsoever.” - The Dalai Lama XIV <3
  31. [4:37:46 PM] Hugh Twomey: Everything's gonna be okay. <3
  32. [4:37:56 PM] Hugh Twomey: I love you and I care about you. :>
  33. [4:38:11 PM] Hugh Twomey: I'll keep the cards in my wallet like you asked. :)
  34. [4:38:23 PM] Deborah Loperfido: there is a hurricane coming this way....if it hits don't be a hero and go to work ... just call in and tell them there are no buses running ...
  35. [4:38:33 PM] Hugh Twomey: Which way?
  36. [4:39:36 PM] Deborah Loperfido: are you a philosopher now? its coming in it's hurricane Irma we will probably be hit it looks like we might have to evacuate....its a BIGGIE Category 4 we are keeping an eye to the weather channel if it hits us it will come up the eastern coast
  37. [4:40:17 PM] Hugh Twomey: I remember when the cops that tried to arrest me sarcastically asked 'what are you, an architect?' once. Because I shared something informative with them. I know you're probably frustrated, but please don't disparage me. <3
  38. [4:40:37 PM] Hugh Twomey: They don't know where Irma's gonna hit yet <3 Give it a few days before the worry starts. :)
  39. [4:40:53 PM] Hugh Twomey: (My friend Jess has briefed me on it; she's a meteorology expert :D )
  40. [4:41:12 PM] Deborah Loperfido: are you still looking for work or are you settling for party city?
  41. [4:41:16 PM] Hugh Twomey: Still looking
  42. [4:41:17 PM] Hugh Twomey: *!
  43. [4:41:24 PM] Hugh Twomey: Was giving it a week or two first.
  44. [4:43:03 PM] Deborah Loperfido: you and I --- it's time to move forward Hughie you have to stop feeling like I am putting you down all the time I am not you are always putting me down and making me feel like I am of little worth the way you act towards me isn't that great either
  45. [4:43:10 PM] Deborah Loperfido: ok?
  46. [4:43:46 PM] Hugh Twomey: You are of a great deal of worth to me- that's exactly why it hurts so much when you, usually accidentalyl, vent your frustrations in an unhealthy way.
  47. [4:43:50 PM] Hugh Twomey: *accidentally
  48. [4:43:58 PM] Hugh Twomey: I don't think you actively malicious or in some manner inferior.
  49. [4:44:00 PM] Hugh Twomey: But it hurts me.
  50. [4:44:16 PM] Hugh Twomey: That's why I make it known, y'know?
  51. [4:44:27 PM] Hugh Twomey: It's a matter of trust- letting you know that a thing hurts me
  52. [4:44:28 PM] Hugh Twomey: *.
  53. [4:45:03 PM] Deborah Loperfido: it hurts me too --- more than you know .... I just don't say anything but I will now no more my holding it in and pretending you all didn't do a number on me
  54. [4:45:26 PM] Hugh Twomey: I don't know how I could have contributed. I was a child.
  55. [4:47:25 PM] Hugh Twomey: Kevin's here. <3 Looking at his mom's apartment. Keep typing; let it out. <3 Love you, mom. :)
  56. [4:49:20 PM] Deborah Loperfido: all I wanted to know is if you liked the job and your hours and if you are still looking but you always turn it around into something else you choose sides you were groomed by your father to go to Ireland you told me that the money I put aside for you === $38,000 --- to turn it over to your father because you didn't trust me with it --- that money was for your graduate school plus food plus living at school you had me take it out of our joint name and give it to dad. he takes the money and builds himself a house with it, you were 17 no child if you didn't think that hurt after I used my inheritance to pay cash and have medical for all your university years and then pretend like I am not alive .... I paid your high school .. not dad
  57. [4:51:35 PM] Deborah Loperfido: that's it ....I can go on ... I spent over $1000 in university applications and fees for transcripts and you couldn't even be bothered to do the essays for any of them -- you did them half heartedly and when it came to Cork you sat with dad to do it -- I am the one who kept you at sea. your father wanted to put you in tottenville
  58. [4:52:13 PM] Deborah Loperfido: ok now lets move on ....
  59. [5:36:46 PM] Hugh Twomey: I like my job, don't like my hours, and am still looking. <3 Back now. My dad probably wanted me to go to Ireland, sure, but it's not like he forced me; I liked/like Ireland. I like NYC, too, for different reasons. I don't even really remember anything about the 38000 you've mentioned, unfortunately; I remember going to Chase bank and etc etc, but I also remember you and dad having two different stories about what that money was and was for.
  60. [5:36:53 PM] Hugh Twomey: And hey, no one was showing me any legal documentation.
  61. [5:37:21 PM] Hugh Twomey: He didn't build himself a house with that; he bought his house with money from selling the old one and had a decent chunk left over for renovations.
  62. [5:37:28 PM] Hugh Twomey: And yes, 17 is a child.
  63. [5:37:34 PM] Hugh Twomey: A teenager, but not an adult.
  64. [5:38:10 PM] Hugh Twomey: I didn't do the essays half-heartedly at all; I couldn't rightly say I've done -anything- half-heartedly in my life, and I resent that accusation a great deal.
  65. [5:38:51 PM] Hugh Twomey: I love you and I care about you and I understand you feel slighted and isolated, and I don't intend to make you feel either, but I intend to live a reasonably independent life as best as I'm able- leaning on you guys as little as possible, only when necessary.
  66. [5:39:21 PM] Hugh Twomey: I don't overmuch enjoy the overpoliticization of my upbringing, which was a consistent current throughout.
  67. [5:39:53 PM] Hugh Twomey: This doesn't have to be an Us vs Them narrative.
  68. [5:40:08 PM] Hugh Twomey: If you lump me in with my father as if we're some form of monolith entity, you will lose me, mom. I don't want that.
  69. [5:40:10 PM] Hugh Twomey: Please don't do that.
  70. [5:40:11 PM] Hugh Twomey: <3
  71. [5:40:18 PM] Hugh Twomey: I love you and don't wanna lose you, either.
  72. [6:42:20 PM] Deborah Loperfido: hey hugh dad always had a story favouring himself so let's forget it I don't want to start pullng documentation to prove myself
  73. [6:43:50 PM] Deborah Loperfido: and no I do not lump you as one entity with your father I have forgiven your father for the things he did like telling me I was an old fat cow and he only married me for the money he has to live with his conscience if he has any and he got what he wanted I have moved on
  74. [6:47:03 PM] Deborah Loperfido: you my son are my son and you are not your father but please stop being defensive and reading things into everything I say I remember that 38000 - I made your father sign for it what he did with it who knows --- your child support was $25/month until age 21 and you were only a couple of months off from 21. I remember you saying he used the money to build yourselves a home and to support you (and him to as he didn't work)
  75. [6:59:57 PM] Deborah Loperfido: all I wanted to know was how you were doing, how you like your job, what your hours are and what you will be doing going forward - that's all I was trying to find out. You don't answer skypes, text messages or emails. I have no other way to find out what is going on in your life. You will see what it is like when you are a parent and your child (and you are still my child as old as you are) can't be bothered to keep in touch. Why past history is being repeated again and again and why I must feel like I have to defend myself constantly and dig out documents to prove myself is getting me to the point of not wanting to try anymore. If you want to see the legal documents I will attach one here to see that your father signed for your money. My apologies it was approximately $36,000 it was for 1/2 university and 1/2 university expenses - dad was to provide the other half of your 3 year of university . So now you know about how much I paid for each year of university for you.
  76. [7:00:46 PM] Hugh Twomey: See, that's what I'd thought it was for; that's what it was used for, so far as I'm aware.
  77. [7:02:18 PM] Deborah Loperfido: dad was to match that money so he owes you approx. $36,000
  78. [7:02:19 PM] Hugh Twomey: I'm happy to answer questions when you field them. <3 I don't mind talking to you about how my life is going and things like that. :) I just don't want you to get into the habit of contacting Kat to contact me unless it's for something important- simply because she is not a phone, or a Skype call, or a text, or an e-mail; she's a person dealing with her own problems, coping with her own recovery process.
  79. [7:03:05 PM] Hugh Twomey: So when you say 'should I call Katherine' for things like 'I'm sending you something in the mail', I percieve that to be a threat to my friend Kat's well-being.
  80. [7:03:12 PM] Hugh Twomey: And she's one of the most important people in my life.
  81. [7:03:17 PM] Hugh Twomey: Not -the-.
  82. [7:03:19 PM] Hugh Twomey: But one of the.
  83. [7:03:41 PM] Deborah Loperfido: Do you think I want to contact her? Doesn't that make both you and I look bad? if you don't think I realize that then you are mistaken. But if you don't respond then should I contact your father in Ireland to have him contact you so you can contact me?
  84. [7:04:15 PM] Deborah Loperfido: what is her problem ? Boyfriend?
  85. [7:04:51 PM] Hugh Twomey: I think you realize it; I just think that maybe if I haven't contacted you, the best thing to do would maybe be to leave it be for a little bit, y'know? Because if it's just that I didn't see the messages, then I will eventually. And if it's that I'm avoiding you for some reason (it's not), then pushing more would surely only drive me further away, right?
  86. [7:05:06 PM] Hugh Twomey: She's got several things she's dealing with. I don't feel at liberty to go into details.
  87. [7:05:17 PM] Deborah Loperfido: well you short gotta go I love you is like a total blow off to me...you feel threatened I feel blown off
  88. [7:05:32 PM] Hugh Twomey: Well, I -could- say nothing, in future.
  89. [7:05:40 PM] Hugh Twomey: :/
  90. [7:06:38 PM] Deborah Loperfido: me too so let's not go tit for tat ... very childish I think I do think its great you are finally being independent but when you get older and turn around and see no family there for you that's when you will realize
  91. [7:07:57 PM] Hugh Twomey: I'm not being childish; I'm being honest. If you'd prefer I say nothing, then I can do that. My responses aren't meant as blow-offs; when I say I'm about to leave, it's because I'm about to leave, mom.
  92. [7:08:12 PM] Hugh Twomey: I don't know why you'd assume I'd lie to you in a fashion as petty and transparent as that.
  93. [7:08:24 PM] Hugh Twomey: That's the only thing I can deduce from a statement like that.
  94. [7:08:37 PM] Hugh Twomey: I don't -want- to say nothing.
  95. [7:08:51 PM] Hugh Twomey: But if the things I say make you uncomfortable, I'd rather you not be uncomfortable.
  96. [7:14:38 PM] Hugh Twomey: (I should add that I don't feel threatened- I feel like my friend is threatened. Mostly, I just feel kinda annoyed that we have to have this same conversation every time we talk, or near enough to it)
  97. [7:14:46 PM] Deborah Loperfido: Hughie you are reading things into everything and anything I am saying. who said you are childish? I wrote blow offs as I don't hear a single word from you then once i have to contact your friend to ask her to have you contact me it becomes a whole story of your being defensive with me and saying things that are so unnecessary and me always having to feel like i have to defend myself repeatedly. Its one word leads into another constantly. You know what your dad said to me when i spoke to him ... he said to me 'well if hugh needs a hundred here and there you can send it to him.' Well you know what i said to him? 'What about you?' He didn't respond. I didn't pursue it. I know if you need I will jump in to help but your dad is always with the same story --- i am googling now what documents/valuables to take for hurricane evacuation ... its building to category 4 it's to hit Puerto rico and move from there to florida/
  98. [7:14:55 PM] Hugh Twomey: me too so let's not go tit for tat ... very childish I think
  99. [7:15:01 PM] Hugh Twomey: You literally just said I was being childish.
  100. [7:15:54 PM] Hugh Twomey: My understanding is that most models so far having the hurricane moving off into the ocean again <3 It depends on which model you look at, though.
  101. [7:16:09 PM] Deborah Loperfido: it is childish on both of our parts don't you think? I feel childish for going down this road. maybe you are the mature person of us both.
  102. [7:17:12 PM] Hugh Twomey: I don't know, mom. I wouldn't call you immature. I'd say you're hurting and lonely and having a great deal of difficulty adjusting, long-term, to the dynamic a grown man pretty commonly has with his parents, most especially when there's a spotty past involved.
  103. [7:17:38 PM] Hugh Twomey: You're not in an amazing spot, 'cause you're stuck living with Ellen and you're having difficulty finding work, y'know?
  104. [7:17:46 PM] Hugh Twomey: I feel that. I'm not in a wholly dissimilar position.
  105. [7:18:03 PM] Hugh Twomey: The big difference is that I have friends to help me through it, even if emotionally.
  106. [7:18:14 PM] Hugh Twomey: It doesn't seem like you have many contacts out where you are.
  107. [7:18:26 PM] Hugh Twomey: And that sucks. It's the -worst-.
  108. [7:18:36 PM] Hugh Twomey: I can only fill that gap so much. <3
  109. [7:19:08 PM] Hugh Twomey: I'm really thankful for all you've done for me, both in past and now, even, with the insurance thing.
  110. [7:19:37 PM] Deborah Loperfido: And please do say I know you're probably frustrated, but please don't disparage me. <3
  111. [7:19:45 PM] Deborah Loperfido: do = don't
  112. [7:19:55 PM] Hugh Twomey: I will if I feel you're disparaging me.
  113. [7:20:02 PM] Hugh Twomey: I'd rather bring it to your attention than let it fester.
  114. [7:20:13 PM] Hugh Twomey: Hiding it does neither of us any good, y'know?
  115. [7:20:19 PM] Deborah Loperfido: well i feel the same disparage
  116. [7:20:49 PM] Hugh Twomey: I'm sorry, if that's the case. I don't know how to go about remedying that, because I don't feel anything I can remotely do can both do that and preserve my mental health.
  117. [7:25:31 PM] Deborah Loperfido: yeah you can say i am lonely i had friends in NY; i had a life in NY. I never expected your father to turn the way he did or to go dip his pen into another inkwell. Then break me down emotionally until i almost cracked so he could get what he wanted and he got what he wanted in material things. he is still online with his friend .... but now that's martinas problem. he was leary martina would see him online with me - I am starting to make friends here. i would like to move out but the salary won't allow me. i am thankful i have family who wanted me to come live with them and didn't turn their backi wanted to tell you about my job and get your opinion on autism in the school system, charter school policy, testing for autistic kids but that's ok honestly this whole thing exhausts me and i can research it online
  118. [7:26:26 PM] Hugh Twomey: Okay. <3 I wish we didn't go through this every time we talked. Or close to it.
  119. [7:29:07 PM] Deborah Loperfido: I am not going to ruin my weekend or go through staying up anymore at night rehashing a conversation where I say to myself well maybe i should of said it this way or maybe i said it the wrong way or maybe i should of use these words .... i am not articulate in that way i don't read more into what a person says to me - call me nieve i take people at face value that's always been my problem and always will be i can forgive but i don't forget and I stand back -- a lot now.
  120. [7:30:25 PM] Hugh Twomey: All I've ever asked of you is exactly that, mom. To take me at face value and to stand back a reasonable distance.
  121. [7:32:30 PM] Deborah Loperfido: i have asked you in the past as to when is the best time to contact you i have also asked you in the past for you to give me a day, date, time as to when we can speak ... but its always the same - you forget i don't ask to talk to you daily. once every two weeks would be great; once every 3 weeks is nice ... but you prefer computer fantasy games with strangers and prefer contact with them (and then go visit these people which is really really dangerous) and your father knows it and feels you should make your own decisions
  122. [7:33:18 PM] Hugh Twomey: I wouldn't advise bringing my father into this; he and I are very open towards one another when we speak and I tend hear two very different interpretations of what's exchanged between you two when you tell it and when he tells it.
  123. [7:34:01 PM] Hugh Twomey: I'd also not call the people I contact strangers; I've known many of them for as long as I've known Katherine.
  124. [7:34:13 PM] Hugh Twomey: Or, well, almost as long.
  125. [7:34:16 PM] Hugh Twomey: Maybe a few years less.
  126. [7:34:29 PM] Hugh Twomey: You do also tend message me almost daily.
  127. [7:34:33 PM] Hugh Twomey: Which is pretty off-putting.
  128. [7:34:43 PM] Deborah Loperfido: yeah i am sure you do strangers in the fact that you speak to them online and you don't know who you really are talking to
  129. [7:34:58 PM] Hugh Twomey: I know exactly who I'm talking to. O.o Skype is a real thing that exists.
  130. [7:35:09 PM] Hugh Twomey: I can see them, hear them, I know where they live.
  131. [7:35:13 PM] Hugh Twomey: Some of them are my friends on Facebook.
  132. [7:35:20 PM] Deborah Loperfido: well hugh if you would answer just one that would make me feel good
  133. [7:36:06 PM] Deborah Loperfido: You do also tend message me almost daily.
  134. Which is pretty off-putting. .... was this necessary to say to me?
  135. [7:36:23 PM] Hugh Twomey: Yes.
  136. [7:36:35 PM] Hugh Twomey: It's nothing I haven't said before.
  137. [7:36:44 PM] Hugh Twomey: Also, scrolling up, we spoke three weeks ago.
  138. [7:37:22 PM] Deborah Loperfido: yes 3 weeks - long enough of an interval for you? should it be longer? your choice. you let me know....
  139. [7:37:59 PM] Hugh Twomey: It's not a matter of too long or not long enough- just that you'd said that three weeks is 'nice'.
  140. [7:38:10 PM] Hugh Twomey: I'd assume that to mean that three weeks or so is fairly sufficient.
  141. [7:38:23 PM] Hugh Twomey: And presumedly not warranted of this level of negative response.
  142. [7:38:28 PM] Deborah Loperfido: http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/hurricane-irma-remains-potential-threat-to-the-east-coast-possibly-matching-harvey%e2%80%99s-wind-strength/ar-AAr7CCa?li=BBnbfcL
  143. [7:38:33 PM] Hugh Twomey: Now, if that's not the case, I do kinda need to be told. <3
  144. [7:38:47 PM] Hugh Twomey: One sec, I'll get the aggregate model for you. <3
  145. [7:39:41 PM] Hugh Twomey: My friend Jess should have it on hand.
  146. [7:40:24 PM] Deborah Loperfido: And presumedly not warranted of this level of negative response.what is so negative about my asking you how often would you prefer contact? your response is very defensive
  147. [7:41:00 PM] Hugh Twomey: I'm referring with that comment to the last...several hours of conversation.
  148. [7:41:08 PM] Hugh Twomey: Which I think you can agree qualifies as negative. >.>'
  149. [7:41:49 PM] Deborah Loperfido: you take things as being negative
  150. [7:42:10 PM] Hugh Twomey: I don't know that any sane person would take the above several hours of conversation as being positive.
  151. [7:42:32 PM] Deborah Loperfido: so i am insane now. that's what you are saying
  152. [7:42:40 PM] Hugh Twomey: Nope!
  153. [7:43:04 PM] Hugh Twomey: I'm saying that, if I copypasted this chat log to pretty much anyone I knew, they'd probably say it was a really toxic and negative exchange.
  154. [7:44:07 PM] Deborah Loperfido: yes i am sure they would as so would my friends they think the same of you and your friends think the same way of me
  155. [7:44:20 PM] Hugh Twomey: I mean, I was referring to the conversation, not to you.
  156. [7:44:26 PM] Hugh Twomey: But hey, sure, thanks.
  157. [7:45:03 PM] Hugh Twomey: Mot of my friends think you've been through a lot of pain and that you're hurting and maybe should have been helped more when you were going through stuff.
  158. [7:45:09 PM] Hugh Twomey: At least, I think so; that's what I've told them.
  159. [7:45:19 PM] Deborah Loperfido: inferences are drawn from the conversation as to the character of the person
  160. [7:45:23 PM] Hugh Twomey: I think I'm gonna stop talking now; this is making me really said.
  161. [7:45:26 PM] Hugh Twomey: *sad
  162. [7:45:26 PM] Deborah Loperfido: so thanks for that
  163. [7:46:14 PM] Hugh Twomey: Here's that image I aws talking about.
  164. [7:46:15 PM] Hugh Twomey: *was
  165. [7:46:26 PM] Hugh Twomey: Aggregate model for a slew of predicted path for Irma.
  166. [7:46:29 PM] Hugh Twomey: No consensus yet.
  167. [7:46:33 PM] Deborah Loperfido: me too that's why i suggested intervals between conversations... how long between conversations 3 weeks 4 weeks etc?
  168. [7:46:56 PM] Hugh Twomey: I dunno. I'm of no mind to consider it without being very rash, so I'm going to leave it be.
  169. [7:47:07 PM] Deborah Loperfido: The aggregate model shows it is hitting florida right above florida in that 'scoop' is the Carolinas - South Carolina
  170. [7:47:11 PM] Hugh Twomey: Every time I've even tried to measure the notion in past, it's just come back to bite me.
  171. [7:47:24 PM] Hugh Twomey: That aggregate model is a string of -every- possible path from a bunch of models.
  172. [7:47:27 PM] Hugh Twomey: It's not one big path.
  173. [7:47:36 PM] Hugh Twomey: It could hit Florida, or the Carolinas, or NYC, or Maine.
  174. [7:47:38 PM] Hugh Twomey: Or go out to sea.
  175. [7:48:29 PM] Deborah Loperfido: Every time I've even tried to measure the notion in past, it's just come back to bite me.i am not understanding what you are saying.... in life things cannot always be put into a model or a box and tied up with a pretty little string and presented
  176. [7:49:48 PM] Hugh Twomey: I don't even know what you mean by the model/box analogy, but if you're referring to the weather thing, all I'm trying to say is that no one knows where it's gonna make landfall yet, and to try not to panic. Be prepared, but don't worry yet. <3
  177. [7:49:57 PM] Hugh Twomey: The quote, though.
  178. [7:50:25 PM] Hugh Twomey: That's me saying that I really don't wanna talk about it right now because talking about it in past has tended result in complete inflexibility and my being percieved as slighting you in some manner for missing the deadline.
  179. [7:50:35 PM] Hugh Twomey: As if you're visiting me in prison and there are allotted windows.
  180. [7:51:06 PM] Hugh Twomey: In fact, most conversations we have in general seem to result largely in you telling me you dislike me in not so many words.
  181. [7:51:15 PM] Hugh Twomey: So I don't really know what to do with that.
  182. [7:52:05 PM] Deborah Loperfido: what deadline are you talking about? there's no deadline Hugh. All I am asking is to know what is going on in your life. I was happy to get a i am ok mom
  183. [7:52:14 PM] Deborah Loperfido: Hi mom! I'm alive and well. Got your envelope. Work soon. Love you. <3
  184. [7:52:28 PM] Hugh Twomey: Just earlier, you said almost exactly the opposite.
  185. [7:52:28 PM] Deborah Loperfido: i knew then you were ok it actually made me smile
  186. [7:53:43 PM] Hugh Twomey: well you short gotta go I love you is like a total blow off to me...you feel threatened I feel blown off ?
  187. [7:53:46 PM] Hugh Twomey: Right?
  188. [7:54:05 PM] Deborah Loperfido: hugh that Hi mom! I'm alive and well. Got your envelope. Work soon. Love you. <3 was great but we can talk too you know if you want to stand back that's fine. when you are ready to feel you can take that step forward i will be here. i took the step forward with your dad - not that i wanted to - but i did as it concerned you
  189. [7:54:40 PM] Hugh Twomey: Like, i don't know how to approach you or not approach you. When we talk regularly, we fight. When we talk irregularly, we fight.
  190. [7:54:57 PM] Hugh Twomey: When I say I'm okay in short sentences, it's somehow insulting.
  191. [7:55:01 PM] Hugh Twomey: If I say nothing, it's insulting.
  192. [7:55:16 PM] Hugh Twomey: Etc.
  193. [7:57:20 PM] Hugh Twomey: It's to the point where I can't even accept dictation with regards to how to act or not act straight from you, because even when I've followed that to the letter in past, it's led to more arguing and fighting and quarreling.
  194. [7:58:42 PM] Deborah Loperfido: i would say you send me one liners for the most part - you prefer that to a conversation i don't know how to approach you either you like to analyze me; you like to overtalk me; you don't give me a chance to speak; and when i speak you take it as my being angry or defensive i can't change the way i speak and after you chew me up and spit me out i honestly just feel like giving up with us but i try again and i try another approach and that never seems to work with you either so every once in awhile when you throw me a bone (like a one liner) i am happy to see it i would love to have a real conversation with you without always having to dig up the past or defend myself or you analyzing me and looking for hidden meanings
  195. [7:59:28 PM] Deborah Loperfido: that's why i cut it off i just honestly can't take it
  196. [7:59:46 PM] Hugh Twomey: I dunno, mom; I don't feel like I really analyze you. I don't feel like anything I'm saying is out there or stunningly out of left field.
  197. [8:00:24 PM] Deborah Loperfido: its the way you speak to me it's probably the same way you take it in the way i speak to you
  198. [8:00:37 PM] Hugh Twomey: It seems prety logical for me to tell you to use an emergency number only for emergencies.
  199. [8:00:42 PM] Hugh Twomey: Like, just as an example.
  200. [8:01:25 PM] Hugh Twomey: Because otherwise we end up with a situation wherein my friend either takes it really seriously, like it's an emergency, or else she doesn't really think about it at all, which is the opposite of what you want.
  201. [8:01:34 PM] Hugh Twomey: -And- she's dealing with a lot of shit herself.
  202. [8:02:26 PM] Deborah Loperfido: ok Hugh i didn't know Katherine is dealing with a lot of shit. maybe her dad can help her out in that respect.
  203. [8:02:48 PM] Deborah Loperfido: But let's put it this way.... who knew you were working first - dad or me?
  204. [8:02:57 PM] Hugh Twomey: Of the two of you? I think you.
  205. [8:03:06 PM] Deborah Loperfido: who knew Eldon wanted you out first ' dad or me ?'
  206. [8:03:14 PM] Hugh Twomey: I think I messaged you immediately, whereas I called dad a day or two afterwards with the work thing.
  207. [8:03:21 PM] Hugh Twomey: Or close to immediately.
  208. [8:03:28 PM] Hugh Twomey: Timescale is probably off, but ordering is I -think- right.
  209. [8:03:35 PM] Deborah Loperfido: who lives closer to you if you need something 'dad or me?' who will help you out financially first 'dad or me?'
  210. [8:03:40 PM] Hugh Twomey: The Eldon thing, pooossibly dad? I'm not sure.
  211. [8:03:52 PM] Deborah Loperfido: who are you closer to 'dad or me?' i will answer that one - dad
  212. [8:03:58 PM] Hugh Twomey: Who lives closer? You, for sure. I have no idea who would help me out financially first.
  213. [8:04:19 PM] Hugh Twomey: Who am I closer to? I mean, that's a horrific and unfair question to ask of me.
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