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  1.  <RJ>   wow      2:54 PM
  2.  <RJ>   apple just fucked over online music subs for the iphone 2:54 PM
  3.  <RJ>   presumably in anticipation of launching their own streaming sub later in the year       2:55 PM
  4.  <RJ>   (i don't imagine spotify's margins are anywhere near 30%, so subs via itunes are useless to them, for example)  2:55 PM
  5.  <matt> RJ: wonder how they split "when Apple brings a new customer" vs "when the publisher brings"     2:55 PM
  6.  <RJ>   matt: if you signup on, eg spotify's website, that's "the publisher brings"     2:56 PM
  7.  <matt> yeah, that's what I figured     2:56 PM
  8.  <RJ>   but you are forbidden from having a link to that from within the app    2:56 PM
  9.  <jono> wow, that sucks 2:56 PM
  10.  <attila>       ouch    2:56 PM
  11.  <RJ>   so basically, people on the iphone will *always* subscribe using itunes, because it's easier    2:56 PM
  12.  <matt> so yeah, any appstore-based discovery (ie. featured) means the 30% applies      2:56 PM
  13.  <matt> eeeek   2:56 PM
  14.  <RJ>   better for the consumer, except many services can't survive a 30pc loss of revenue      2:57 PM
  15.  <matt> not in music, anyway    2:57 PM
  16.  <jono> it's especially harsh that they're enforcing the app price to be the same or less through the app store 2:57 PM
  17.  <RJ>   slightly less of an issue for some other content, however some publishers will have deals where they only get <=30% of net sale price etc.. and it fucks them just as bad       2:57 PM
  18.  <RJ>   should be fun to watch the ensuing shitstorm    2:58 PM
  19.  <matt> indeed :-/
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