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  1. the night after Thunderlane takes blossomforth for himself, he has a dream
  2. and keep in mind
  3. luna is still gone, but she's
  4. it's literally like a year or two before nightmare moon returns
  5. a big part of the lore i have for luna is that she actually fought very hard against the tantibus/herself/whatever else on the moon
  6. and dreams, they're a biological necessity
  7. so ponies didnt just
  8. stop dreaming when she was banished
  9. but yes as the time of Luna's return approaches, and the nightmare moon part of her is getting more powerful, dreams are becoming more and more visceral
  10. thunderlane has a dream about a sinking ship with literally every single pony he knows on it
  11. being crushed by a massive rogue wave
  12. and for some reason he's the only one who can move
  13. everyone else is frozen in place
  14. however he cant really do anything except watch the wave come
  15. and he, and everyone else, is thrown into the ocean when the ship capsizes
  16. while suspended under the water, blossomforth swims down to him
  17. and tries to pull him up
  18. but he breathes out all the air he was holding and sinks like a stone
  19. and wakes up after "drowning" for an indeterminate amount of time
  20. he's kinda spooked by this but he's also able to shake it off as a drunk dream
  21. (alcohol gives very intensive dreams so i'm hella capitalizing on that)
  22. thunderlane's troubles are just beginning though
  23. because in YourFavoriteWeapon, we get a little background on blossomforth, but for the most part she's just thunderlane's emotional dumping ground
  24. here in Deja, we're treating to see a bit more of what Blossomforth's homelife/personal beliefs are
  25. she belongs to an old Celestial cult that's been around since before Luna was banished, which i based pretty heavily on christian extremism
  26. the general populace is kinda out on whether or not alicorns are gods, and generally have an agnostic viewpoint as is typically presented in the show
  27. a lot of them don't even remember discord and luna/nightmare moon
  28. but the celestial cult has elevated Discord to a devil figure, Luna to a "fallen angel", and Celestia to a Jesus proxy
  29. as in, she's literally the daughter of the sun/is the sun in mortal form
  30. what really affects thunderlane here though is their beliefs about relationships/love/mating
  31. blossomforth has never fucked anyone before
  32. according to the cult, the pony you first give yourself to is supposed to be the one you stick with
  33. so Thunderlane feels like he's been "locked down", and Blossomforth is just
  34. so happy she managed to catch Thunderlane as her "one"
  35. and thunderlane is just so not into that
  36. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 6:37 AM
  37. Hm. So thunderlane doing her is like
  38. A really big deal
  39. Numb To NothingYesterday at 6:37 AM
  40. yeah
  41. she's super attached to him to begin with, and was holding out for him specifically
  42. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 6:37 AM
  43. Which is the line you mentioned crossing
  44. Yeah
  45. Numb To NothingYesterday at 6:37 AM
  46. yeah
  47. so she's getting super hardcore about like, planning their life out
  48. and thunderlane is all "look i dont have time for that i'm a model and a singer now"
  49. "i'm not even going to be in ponyville 9/10 times"
  50. "and i dont plan on changing my life for you"
  51. blossomforth accepts that Thunderlane isnt excactly perfect
  52. she's got the "we'll work on it" mindset
  53. the fact that they're in more or less thunderlane's only legitimate relationship since Daisy is a big hope for her
  54. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 6:41 AM
  55. "hes a bad boy but I can change him"
  56. Numb To NothingYesterday at 6:41 AM
  57. pretty much
  58. and thunderlane is just kind of ignoring all that to the best of his ability
  59. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 6:44 AM
  60. So, this new story is focused a lot on her trying to make a relationship with Thunder?
  61. Numb To NothingYesterday at 6:44 AM
  62. yeah, while he's just trying
  63. to fuck his way across equestria i suppose lol
  64. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 6:45 AM
  65. Lol
  66. Numb To NothingYesterday at 6:45 AM
  67. Thunderlane's main deal is power and control
  68. he wants to feel like he's completely above others, and that he's the one who pulls the strings
  69. and why this is the case is actually the next part of Deja
  70. so there's a show in Ponyville that starts off Lyra and co's first tour with thunderlane
  71. and thunderlane is going to throw an afterparty at his place
  72. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 6:47 AM
  73. And the party is where he bones her, or?
  74. Numb To NothingYesterday at 6:47 AM
  75. oh he already did
  76. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 6:47 AM
  77. Oh, ok
  78. Numb To NothingYesterday at 6:47 AM
  79. YFW ends with him about to bone her, and Deja starts with his dream right after he does
  80. the actual sex is the blank spot between the stories
  81. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 6:48 AM
  82. Ooh ok, and Deja is the new story
  83. Numb To NothingYesterday at 6:48 AM
  84. yeh
  85. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 6:48 AM
  86. I'm stupid and got mixed up on the titles
  87. Numb To NothingYesterday at 6:48 AM
  88. YourFavoriteWeapon
  89. Deja Ecrit
  90. Celestia and Discord are Raging Inside Me
  91. Daisy
  92. Science Fiction
  93. that's a quick shorthand for the stories in the series
  94. in chronological order
  95. so the party is kind of just a mess for thunderlane, who wanted to ditch blossomforth and get down with both old trysts and new
  96. she's cockblocking him left and right, and the more she does it, the more pissed he gets
  97. both in anger and drinking
  98. and we're treated to a dream-like flashback for thunderlane showing the reason he has this power and control issue
  99. his first time was with Daisy, years ago, at a party
  100. and he was more or less in blossomforth's position
  101. not a part of the cult, but he had been super attached to Daisy
  102. and she, that first time at that party all those years ago
  103. was really just looking for sex
  104. and thunderlane was a snack
  105. so the roles are reversed
  106. and as drunk present-day thunderlane finally caves and just takes blossomforth up to his room (since he cant get anyone else), he fully falls back into that first time with Daisy
  107. where she basically raped him, because he immediately got cold hooves and tried to direct the situation into
  108. "actually i dont think i'm ready for this, can we maybe cuddle instead"
  109. and she wasnt having any of that
  110. so that experience really fucked thunderlane over
  111. Daisy softened to thunderlane when their relationship actually progressed, but the damage to thunderlane was done
  112. AddaYesterday at 7:01 AM
  113. Oh this is gonna hurt.
  114. Numb To NothingYesterday at 7:01 AM
  115. and that's what ended up ruining their relationship that sets up the beginning of YFW
  116. but now thunderlane is stuck relieving that first moment just laying in bed staring at the ceiling with her on top of him
  117. every single time he's fucking somepony
  118. and the more aggressive/control he takes lessens the empty feeling Daisy left in him
  119. and this was easy when he was just
  120. plot hopping
  121. fucking around withh little strings attached
  122. with blossomforth, he's actually expected to have
  123. emotional vulnerability
  124. and he cant handle that very well
  125. he's got a lot of secrets
  126. both of his own and ones he traded for sex
  127. thing is, Photo Finish is still kinda running thunderlane's life
  128. because his modeling thing is like the main deal, that's how he gets most of his connections and bits at this point
  129. and he's become pretty dissociated from his old life
  130. the only reason he's even allowed to be a featured guest on Lyra's tour is because Photo Finish (rightfully) suspected that it would boost his popularity massively
  131. Gale is also pretty attached to Thunderlane because she's
  132. kind of a female version of him, but not in the way Daisy is
  133. in that Gale likes to use sex as a power tool (whereas Daisy was "merely" just looking for sex)
  134. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 7:21 AM
  135. Hm, so Gale is sorta
  136. Trying to get more leverage over him?
  137. In a way?
  138. Numb To NothingYesterday at 7:22 AM
  139. Yeah, especially since she sees him as a tool
  140. In both meanings of the word
  141. Her main thing is “hey, he’s been in a lot of fucked up situations, he can write songs for us”
  142. But also views him as a bit of a threat
  143. Numb To NothingYesterday at 7:25 AM
  144. Fucking all her friends and feeling like a scumfuck is her aesthetic dammit
  145. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 7:26 AM
  146. Lol
  147. Numb To NothingYesterday at 7:26 AM
  148. So she feels like she needs to directly be on top of him, literally and metaphorically, to “keep him in check”
  149. Blossomforth of course hates this
  150. Thunderlane couldn’t care less he’s drunk as fuck all the time
  151. Photo Finish’s gears start turning though
  152. And she deliberately starts to manipulate this dynamic to create salable drama
  153. “Oh you know, ze fans vould love Thundergale”
  154. blossomforth comes along on the tour as thunderlane’s top groupie
  155. As they’re going across equestria, she has to constantly keep convincing herself that Thunderlane isn’t too far gone
  156. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 7:32 AM
  157. Poor wholesome mare
  158. Numb To NothingYesterday at 7:33 AM
  159. She believe
  160. In the skeeve
  161. Too bad Thunderlane doesn’t believe in himself :^)
  162. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 7:35 AM
  163. All he believes in is PUSS
  164. Numb To NothingYesterday at 7:35 AM
  165. And the bottle
  166. But yes between the relationship manipulation, and Thunderlane being an alcoholic, blossomforth is starting to become more and strained
  167. Gale is going ham with this because she’s also a mess
  168. Blossomforth cashes all her chips in on trying to lock Thunderlane down into an engagement halfway through their tour
  169. And Thunderlane, who happened to be blackout at the time, agrees
  170. Gale is furious but photo finish loves this
  171. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 7:41 AM
  172. Brb fucking up some lives for drama
  173. Numb To NothingYesterday at 7:46 AM
  174. Hue
  175. Legit though
  176. But thunderlane’s dreams are becoming more intensive the more he drinks and the closer to luna’s return it becomes
  177. While out in manehattan during a show, Thunderlane openly exposes the engagement
  178. By bringing blossomforth on stage during a part where he and gale were supposed to be doing some crazy flight choreography
  179. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 7:49 AM
  180. Oh jesus
  181. Numb To NothingYesterday at 7:49 AM
  182. Gale wants to kick Thunderlane out of the band after this, and Lyra and vinyl are sort of over both gale and Thunderlane
  183. Problem is gale is a fantastic bassist and lyricist, and Thunderlane is a very visceral singer and lyricist
  184. So they’d basically cripple their band if they did that
  185. But after gale, Lyra, and vinyl give Thunderlane a bunch of shit for being photo finish’s drama whore, he bails with blossomforth to a manehattan motel
  186. And this is like, a gigantic Hope Spike for blossomforth
  187. So she just starts going crazy on the rest of their life that she’s planned out
  188. And Thunderlane slowly has the comprehension of what being engaged to somepony means
  189. Dawn on him
  190. When he and her go back to the motel room he gets drunk as shit and falls into a waking dream again
  191. But this time, blossomforth is experiencing it with him
  192. Because Thunderlane is literally inside her when he starts tripping
  193. But the dream immediately breaks into Thunderlane and blossomforth spiraling down around each other through a massive storm down towards the ocean
  194. One second Thunderlane is drunkenly pounding blossom, and the next they’re diving down
  195. thunderlane’s dream is basically just his entire unsaid thoughts on how he feels his and blossomforth’s relationship
  196. And she gets a frontline view of that
  197. blossomforth is just taken along for the ride
  198. And Thunderlane does not have high hopes for their future
  199. All he can see for them is a loveless relationship where blossomforth pushes herself further and further while he descends deeper into his bad habits
  200. And half the time in the dream blossomforth is glitching into different ponies he’s fucked in the past
  201. Blossomforth has talked about wanting foals, so a huge part of the dream is his anxiety about having to become a dad eventually if he sticks with her
  202. Dragged into the hospital while she’s in labor, the foals appearing as mutilated masses in his hooves
  203. The vision of their wedding in the middle of a hurricane
  204. A future where the kids are blessed but the parents let them shoulder all the blame
  205. Just like thunderlane’s life
  206. It’s not touched upon so much until now, and becomes a major part of the third story
  207. But Thunderlane has a fucking awful family dynamic
  208. His dad bailed right after rumble was born
  209. And his mother has descended into insanity
  210. Long story short, he can only see their relationship repeating his life
  211. And when he and blossom wake from the dream, she’s pretty shaken
  212. And Thunderlane has made the resolve to tell her the truth
  213. So he does
  214. About everything
  215. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 8:41 AM
  216. Damn
  217. So he finally has the "come to Celestia" moment
  218. Numb To NothingYesterday at 8:41 AM
  219. Yeah
  220. And I am going to be vague in the story here at this point, likely having Thunderlane whisper to blossom in a way that isn’t described to the audience
  221. But thunderlane’s troubles didn’t exactly start with Daisy
  222. He did something as a younger teen to rumble that he is horribly ashamed of
  223. Thunderlane tells blossom just how vile he truly is, and hopes that she’ll distance herself
  224. Mostly because he’s too much of a pussy to disengage fully himself at this point
  225. But blossom takes it the other way as she typically does
  226. “You need even me more than ever”
  227. So he bails
  228. Like, literally just flies out the motel window
  229. And goes crawling back to the band
  230. He’s pretty sure he’s just fucked up massively
  231. Blossom now knows his darkest secrets, and he just abandoned her
  232. He’s essentially just waiting for the sword to drop
  233. But hey, he’s got the solution for anxiety
  234. Drink and fuck
  235. He starts throwing himself hardcore into that, to the point where he’s showing up at shows unable to sing coherently and falling over himself at photo shoots
  236. He’s also going through all Ponyville trysts from YFW
  237. applejack, golden harvest, derpy
  238. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 8:53 AM
  239. He goes full downward spiral mode
  240. Numb To NothingYesterday at 8:53 AM
  241. Big colt with a gun
  242. AddaYesterday at 8:53 AM
  243. Applejack? Oh noooo
  244. Numb To NothingYesterday at 8:53 AM
  245. Oh yes
  246. AddaYesterday at 8:54 AM
  247. Muh gorl
  248. Numb To NothingYesterday at 8:54 AM
  249. My headcanon for what happened with the Apple family is that bright Mac died first, and this broke pear butter
  250. Who essentially just wasted away for the next couple years after his death before dying herself
  251. This chapter has Thunderlane sneaking into sweet apple acres to give aj the fug
  252. And then having to fuck off super fast when pear butter, in a state terrifyingly Reminiscent of his own mother, nearly barges in on him and AJ gettin down
  253. Derpy is a special case though, because if you’ll recall
  254. Thunderlane is the reason she’s got her wall eye
  255. And possible brain damage
  256. So he feels like he kind of owes it to her to make her feel loved even if he’s straight up lying about it
  257. Photo Finish is sorta irked at Thunderlane for staying in Ponyville to get blasted and fuck old friends
  258. So she wrangles him back to canterlot with the promise of being able to do an op with the current wonderbolts
  259. And this clicks thunderlane’s old dream of wanting to join them
  260. So he goes “fuck it why not”
  261. Photo shoot goes surprisingly well
  262. A little too well if he’s being honest
  263. Fleetfoot and Spitfire take a very specific liking to him
  264. And he’s still in like, a pseudo-relationship with derpy
  265. She’s stayed home in Ponyville though
  266. And he’s kept this massively under wraps
  267. Finally learned his lesson
  268. The band has been also trying to solicit him back, even gale has calmed down a bit
  269. Especially since he’s no longer with blossomforth
  270. So spitfire and fleetfoot take a liking to Thunderlane
  271. A real “liking”
  272. And this is the first time Thunderlane actually feels out of his league doing what he’s been doing
  273. Spitfire and fleetfoot don’t give a fuck about his secrets, or anything he can “offer” them other than himself
  274. And this is a bit of a rude awakening
  275. He’s used to being able to more or less get what he wants by hoisting himself into positions of power over other ponies through sex and secrets
  276. And this straight doesn’t work with the wonderbolts
  277. Because they’re in his position, except better and longer
  278. So Thunderlane has once again reached a cap where he’s powerless
  279. Him vs Spitfire vs Fleetfoot
  280. Which causes him to fall back on who he can exploit, in this case derpy
  281. Getting drunk with her constantly (in fact, encouraging her to drink when she really isn’t too fond of it)
  282. Lying for fun and faking the way he holds her
  283. And she falls for every empty word he says
  284. Blossomforth has been just locked away at home by her own admission at this point
  285. Do remember her family and religious situation
  286. The stallion who was supposed to be “the one”, and the only “one” has abandoned her
  287. And from her point of view she can only see that as a fault of her own
  288. Her family is super not happy about this
  289. To the point where excommunication is talked of
  290. And blossomforth is terrified of that because the celestial cult is all she has now pretty much
  291. Daisy hasn’t been just fucking around though
  292. She’s noticed what’s happened here
  293. And she tries to take advantage of the fact that there’s another pony who was hurt by Thunderlane and knows about his slimeball behavior
  294. But blossomforth isn’t fully ready to just destroy Thunderlane yet, particularly not when it’s clear that’s all daisy wants out of her
  295. A way to get back at Thunderlane
  296. So she doesn’t tell her about the rumble thing, or really anything other than that she should just get the fuck over Thunderlane already
  297. This pisses daisy the hell off, especially since she broke up with him
  298. “Thunderlane is a fucking loser why the hell are you defending him so hard”
  299. Thunderlane has started going back to shows again as well
  300. Slightly less of a drunk now since the wonderbolts thing sobered him as it were
  301. But gale pretty much isn’t talking to him anymore at this point, and the fans can feel the tension
  302. The shows stop selling as well
  303. Photo Finish insists Thunderlane focus on the modeling and maybe try and get more chummy with the wonderbolts
  304. And Thunderlane is just paralyzed in this fucking mess because he has no idea what to fucking do
  305. He’s pretty fucking trapped by his circumstance
  306. He feels like a wind-up toy running dry
  307. Gale decides to be a bit of a fucker and mine this for songs
  308. She considers it only fair anyway, what with Thunderlane and her’s earlier dynamic
  309. And this actually causes Thunderlane to snap
  310. Go off on her about how awful she’s been treating him and the rest of the band
  311. She returns it in kind by giving Thunderlane some harsh truths that he already knows
  312. And he uses this as an excuse to break with the band and throw himself back with what photo Finish wants
  313. And photo Finish, oh boy
  314. Does she have something up her sleeve
  315. Apparently Princess Celestia herself is interested in meeting with Thunderlane
  316. While internally Thunderlane is a fucking mess photo finish has done great pr on him
  317. The audience is treated to how every situation actually goes down
  318. But the public in-story is really only reading magazine articles
  319. So they see Thunderlane as this slick Pegasus from Ponyville who shook off his hick roots to be a stunning model and creative
  320. Thunderlane suspects the Princess Celestia bit is more PR, but as it turns out
  321. She is legitimately interested in meeting him
  322. For two reasons
  323. 1. Luna’s return is fast approaching and Celestia has been keeping tabs on those with vivid and lucid dreams
  324. 2. She’s thirsty af
  325. I’m not actually entirely certain how to approach Thunderlane banging Celestia in its nitty gritty, but it is a very important moment for Thunderlane because
  326. Well
  327. He made it to the top, sort of
  328. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 9:55 AM
  329. When does he fuck discord
  330. Numb To NothingYesterday at 9:55 AM
  331. Soon my friend
  332. Soon
  333. Discord is actually just about to show up
  334. (Spoiler: He never fucks discord)
  335. I have a specific discord headcanon
  336. That I think I shared here before
  337. For all these discography series’, discord has been a fractured chaos spirit for like
  338. 1000+ years
  339. I had a different way of rationalizing it actually, in that the different genders of the draconeqqui have matching parts
  340. AddaYesterday at 10:13 AM
  341. That's a lot of genders.
  342. Numb To NothingYesterday at 10:14 AM
  343. Hue
  344. Nah I meant like, the females have the matching goat and lizard parts, and the males have the matching talons and lion parts
  345. That sorta deal
  346. Discord was scrambled somewhere between that
  347. AddaYesterday at 10:17 AM
  348. Ohhhh
  349. agender bigender rolebender worldender
  350. Numb To NothingYesterday at 10:29 AM
  351. ahaha
  352. But yes, Thunderlane being a Celestia consort gets out
  353. Numb To NothingYesterday at 10:36 AM
  354. This destroys blossomforth
  355. Thunderlane dumped her and then went off and fucked her literal god
  356. AddaYesterday at 10:37 AM
  357. Oh jeez...
  358. Betrayed by her own goddess.
  359. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 10:37 AM
  360. Her god
  361. Yeah
  362. Numb To NothingYesterday at 10:39 AM
  363. Blossomforth could put up with quite a lot but this is the breaking point
  364. I’m not sure if you recall from YFW but Thunderlane is a pretty big fan of choking/asphyxiation
  365. Particularly with ropes and belts
  366. Thunderlane got blossom into the choking stuff too
  367. Numb To NothingYesterday at 10:46 AM
  368. her logical conclusion is to just hang herself, which already isn’t a recommended suicide method for Pegasi since they have a reflex that usually forces their wings to keep them afloat enough so they don’t
  369. Have their full weight on their necks
  370. Her parents find her in the process of doing it, there’s a whole kerfuffle
  371. And Ponyville doesn’t usually have suicides or anything even like
  372. Remotely this awful
  373. They have a real Midwest attitude of “don’t talk about it and it never happened”
  374. Pleasant airs, Town is fine, don’t look under the rug
  375. But this shakes the town pretty bad and everyone who was like, remotely on thunderlane’s side is now faced with a choice
  376. Because a clear pattern is emerging with the ponies he spends prolonged romantic contact with
  377. Daisy is running the “I told you all he sucked” campaign pretty hard
  378. But for the most part, not in the least due to thunderlane’s newfound fame and positions
  379. Ponies fall in line behind him not really having done anything wrong and presenting blossomforth as sort of just
  380. A melodramatic cultist
  381. Already the celestial cult does not enjoy a good reputation around town
  382. But Thunderlane isn’t even made aware of any of thing until he returns back to Ponyville about two weeks after blossomforth’s attempt
  383. As the princess’s consort he really is just sort of living a cushy life
  384. He’s not satisfied with it at all but he’s not about to turn it down
  385. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 11:03 AM
  386. I'd kill 300 people to be Ceelstias fuckboi
  387. And this nerd is like "it's alright"
  388. Numb To NothingYesterday at 1:53 PM
  389. Lol
  390. So blossomforth is just in hell
  391. The colt she was supposed to be with the rest of her life fucked her literal god, she failed at killing herself and now her entire town is ignoring her in favor for not pissing off Thunderlane
  392. Because the doofus slept himself into more power than 99 percent of the town
  393. And her family is a step away from kicking her out of her religious community
  394. So she has no idea what to do, reasonably
  395. I wasn’t able to describe this earlier because I got dragged off topic by my own dumb ass
  396. But the deal with discord is that he was transformed into the mix-match ephemeral chaos spirit by mishandled draconeqqui artifacts
  397. And his whole MO since then has been to cause enough strife and disharmony to return back to the physical world, as we saw in s2; there’s a secondary aspect I added to this, however
  398. Since Limbo doesn’t exactly work chronologically, discord has some idea of future events
  399. Or at least things that could happen
  400. It’s hazy, but he knows that somehow the sparkle family prevents him from returning
  401. Now, discord loves thunderlane
  402. Thunderlane doesn’t know this of course, he doesn’t even know discord is real
  403. Discord on the other hand is Thunderlane’s biggest fan
  404. It’s very difficult for discord to do much beyond psyche manipulation and possession while in limbo
  405. So he uses physical actors to bring about the disharmony that anchors him to the world more concretely
  406. With Thunderlane, motherfucker is doing his job for him
  407. Discord can kick back and throw his paws/claws/hooves/talons up and just watch Thunderlane ruin everything he touches
  408. Discord has come to offer Blossom a pretty decent deal
  409. at least to her in her state
  410. "I can get you your revenge on everyone who has spurned you, especially thunderlane"
  411. of course discord's intentions are not to help Blossomforth in the slightest
  412. but she's desperate enough to try anything
  413. including a literal deal with the devil
  414. Numb To NothingYesterday at 4:45 PM
  415. @CoffeeBean quickly though
  416. i actually want your specific opinion here
  417. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 4:45 PM
  418. k, gimme one moment
  419. Numb To NothingYesterday at 4:45 PM
  420. do you think celestia is a bit too... scuzzy?
  421. i jsut realized that unless i give her
  422. a really good reason to want to fuck thunderlane
  423. beyond "yes i like to have consorts"
  424. it is a bit of uh "yeah but why" moment
  425. if we go with she likes collecting consorts, it's kind of like
  426. Photo Finish groomed and then offered thunderlane to her
  427. and thunderlane has been slowly fucking his way around in more and more affluent circles
  428. and he has access to secrets and information and relationships that others dont
  429. i was also going to have them like, legitimately get on
  430. in terms of conversation
  431. give some actual chemistry
  432. so that's what happens if we double down on the scuzz, and that's kind of the thing i wanted to do here with this story
  433. because it contrasts with the idea of her as God
  434. i could absolutely downplay the politics of it though and just have
  435. for once
  436. thunderlane actually legitimately just
  437. being an enjoyment to someone
  438. and make celestia a little less scuzzy
  439. i dunno it's so difficult to me to write any character in an absurd position of power who isnt abusing it in some way
  440. because that's kind of par the course for literally anyone in power ever
  441. i suppose i could still have her... understanding the advantages of having thunderlane in her pocket but still legitimately enjoying him and not overly abusing the info he has
  442. that might make for a better character of celestia
  443. where she legitimately has to keep swatting herself down so she doesnt just use thunderlane as an object
  444. which could contrast very well with how thunderlane/gale/daisy have been portrayed
  445. and show that there's still some hope left, or something
  446. i unno
  447. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 4:52 PM
  448. I'll be honest, when you first posed the "he bones Celestia" idea I had that inkling of "that's totally unrealistic and wack"
  449. but like, it does sort of make sense
  450. and the fact there's some actual, you know
  451. consequences
  452. it goes beyond "I fucked a god"
  453. but, I guess I see what you're trying to get at
  454. you want celestia to seem like, not a slut
  455. Numb To NothingYesterday at 4:54 PM
  456. in fact it's explicitly supposed to be "i fucked who was supposed to be a god and like, she isnt"
  457. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 4:54 PM
  458. and not vying for
  459. power
  460. Numb To NothingYesterday at 4:54 PM
  461. "she is not the sun."
  462. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 4:54 PM
  463. wait, ok
  464. Numb To NothingYesterday at 4:54 PM
  465. she's still immesnly powerful of course
  466. and blossomforth still views celestia as a god
  467. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 4:54 PM
  468. yeah
  469. Numb To NothingYesterday at 4:55 PM
  470. but you're also on the money there that i want celestia to be more
  471. sympathetic
  472. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 4:55 PM
  473. but he sort of comes to find that she's not all she's choked up to be
  474. Numb To NothingYesterday at 4:55 PM
  475. and like i mentioned we already have daisy and gale and thunderlane
  476. being losers
  477. so it'd be some good contrast to see someone who has
  478. absurd power
  479. and is actually somewhat restrained
  480. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 4:55 PM
  481. someone with actual morals
  482. Numb To NothingYesterday at 4:55 PM
  483. yeh
  484. so i feel like legitimate chemistry might be the way to go
  485. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 4:55 PM
  486. I agree
  487. have her be kinda personal and motherly
  488. wanting to talk with him a lot, and such
  489. sort of like "god damn I never get to just sit down and talk to ponies"
  490. Numb To NothingYesterday at 5:04 PM
  491. ooh, i really like that
  492. especially since we can create like, the kind of proxy mother dynamic thunderlane never got from his own mom
  493. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 5:09 PM
  494. oooh, yeah
  495. how long is he with her?
  496. Numb To NothingYesterday at 5:12 PM
  497. two chapters, but one of them is literally the longest chapter of the story
  498. the penultimate chapter, "Good To Know If I Ever Wanted Any Attention All I'd Have To Do Is Die" is the duality between Thunderlane actually getting a relationship he feels
  499. good about
  500. that just so happens to be the most devastating possible thing to the pony who legitimately loves him the most
  501. and of course blossom doesnt want to hear from thunderlane that celestia is just
  502. a mare
  503. a very powerful one
  504. but once again, she is not the sun
  505. when thunderlane returns to ponyville to do damage control on the whole blossomforth situation, he finds that
  506. essentially the whole town is on his side
  507. even though now that he's been with celestia and starting to become a little more stable and empathetic
  508. and can see that he really has been an egregious piece of shit
  509. he's in quite deep at this point
  510. the thing too is, he can't actually
  511. find blossomforth when he's back in town
  512. he just gets to witness the aftermath
  513. Discord has spirited away Blossomforth in the old Everfree Palace and is just
  514. loading her with tons of religious propaganda
  515. and dragging her closer and closer to a rapturous state of mind where she'd be willing to do
  516. anything
  517. it get her closure
  518. he promises to her that she'll get all of her revenge, and that she will be assured a place in "heaven" for carrying out what she's about to do
  519. when really discord is just talking out of his many asses and is just manipulating her to eventually get rid of the sparkles
  520. because as previously mentioned, discord knows that one of those annoying unicorns is going to ultimately
  521. prevent him from returning
  522. and he's not exactly able to just
  523. influence the world in any way he wants
  524. he needs to use physical actors
  525. CoffeeBeanYesterday at 5:22 PM
  526. only regi can take a sex drama and turn it into a battle between gods
  527. Numb To NothingYesterday at 5:23 PM
  528. more like i turned a battle between gods into a sex drama ;p
  529. thunderlane is just like
  530. floored by what's happened
  531. "daisy was right about me all along and you are all still supporting me?"
  532. "you're fucking the princess, dude"
  533. "y-yeah but--"
  534. "f-fuck."
  535. but yes
  536. derpy
  537. Thunderlane has fucked her up pretty bad
  538. not only did he, you know, fuck her head up physically in that crash from the first story
  539. but over the earlier parts of deja, he's clearly just taking advantage of her to try and shake blossomforth
  540. once he's had his sobering moment with celestia, he tries to patch things up with her, but it's a bit late; he's already gotten her hooked on drinking since most of the nights he hooked up with her were resulted in both of them drinking heavily
  541. thunderlane of course is an alcoholic so he's always got booze, shares it with derpy, and she easily becomes a drunk as well
  542. when he's seen how Ponyville has thrown their support behind him, he wants to at least prove to himself
  543. (or possibly daisy, who is one of like, five ponies in town who is vehemently on blossomforth's side)
  544. that he can at least begin to repair the damage he did
  545. he really can't, at least not at this moment
  546. after seeing what a mess he's made Derpy, drunk alone in her home, he straight up flees
  547. he's having a real BSoD moment
  548. coincidentally
  549. the summer sun celebration is tomorrow
  550. Thunderlane swoops around town, looking for Blossomforth
  551. can't find her
  552. retreats to a cloud bank, and beats the shit out of it
  553. whips it into a pretty fierce storm
  554. and lets himself be overtaken by it
  555. drunk as fuck, of course
  556. and he slips back into that waking dream
  557. he's back on the sea, in that ship
  558. every single pony he's fucked over or has drawn into his destruction is there
  559. frozen in various states of trying to flee the boat, or trying to ineffectually patch it
  560. thunderlane is the only one who can move
  561. the boat is stuck in the undertow of the massive, 100 foot wave that is threatening to swallow it
  562. wandering around the boat as it creaks, ocean pressure holding its frame
  563. he can see the lighthouse on the shore through the sleet and the rain
  564. and realizes that there's really only one thing he can do
  565. and starts to go around the boat, gathering up the frozen ponies and throwing them into the life boats
  566. and setting them free, hoping that they'll fair better against the wave that way
  567. he manages to get most of them, but several specific ponies he cant get to
  568. Derpy
  569. Spitfire
  570. Daisy
  571. and of course, Blossomforth
  572. as he's trying to drag derpy to the last lifeboat, everything unfreezes
  573. and the wave swallows the boat, completely destroying it
  574. cast under the waves, we're brought back to how the story began
  575. thunderlane sinking beneath the waves, surrounded by debris
  576. and blossomforth slowly swimming down to him
  577. but this time, she's accompanied by something serpentine swimming around them
  578. a figure that thunderlane doesnt recognize, but still inspires pure terror
  579. and blossomforth, instead of trying to lift him up in the beginning
  580. gently presses her hooves against Thunderlane's chest
  581. and forces the air from him
  582. Thunderlane doesnt resist
  583. and he sinks deeper and deeper as he loses buoyancy
  584. the duration of this dream occurs as Nightmare Moon returns to Equestria
  585. and Twilight comes to Ponyville
  586. so right before Thunderlane actually, physically drowns in the dreamscape, Luna is rescued by the elements of harmony and immediately hops back into her dream curation
  587. not that she's not rusty from her sabbatical
  588. but it's kind of a passive thing for her, Luna is always stuck in a weird middle ground between reality and dreaming
  589. and since Thunderlane is in relatively close proximity
  590. she's able to bring herself to him and rescue him from drowning
  591. woken up, finding Luna bearing down on him in the cloud bank, coughing up water (could have been from the storm, could have been from the dream)
  592. looks at Luna
  593. coughs again
  594. "Whoever you are, you should have let me fucking drown."
  595. end Deja
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