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- 00:00:50,409 --> 00:00:52,784
- This is nothing less
- than 'Zeno's paradox.'
- 2
- 00:00:54,284 --> 00:00:58,868
- You are Achilles
- and the tortoise is the orgasm.
- 3
- 00:00:59,034 --> 00:01:01,868
- Oh, come on.
- - No, no, no. Listen.
- 4
- 00:01:02,034 --> 00:01:03,826
- Achilles and the tortoise
- are going to race,
- 5
- 00:01:03,993 --> 00:01:06,076
- and Achilles is confident,
- 6
- 00:01:06,243 --> 00:01:10,201
- so he gives the tortoise
- a hundred meters head start.
- 7
- 00:01:10,368 --> 00:01:13,326
- Now the mathematical problem
- is that
- 8
- 00:01:13,493 --> 00:01:15,951
- before Achilles
- can pass the tortoise,
- 9
- 00:01:16,118 --> 00:01:17,326
- he has to reach the point
- 10
- 00:01:17,493 --> 00:01:21,076
- where the tortoise started
- after a hundred meters.
- 11
- 00:01:21,243 --> 00:01:24,493
- But when Achilles gets there,
- the tortoise has already moved on,
- 12
- 00:01:24,659 --> 00:01:26,659
- and then he has
- to reach the next point,
- 13
- 00:01:26,826 --> 00:01:28,284
- and the tortoise
- has moved on again
- 14
- 00:01:28,451 --> 00:01:31,201
- and so on and so on and so on.
- 15
- 00:01:31,368 --> 00:01:34,618
- So Achilles can never reach
- the tortoise and never pass him.
- 16
- 00:01:34,784 --> 00:01:38,951
- And in the same way,
- because you were giving chase,
- 17
- 00:01:39,118 --> 00:01:41,993
- you couldn't reach satisfaction.
- That's the paradox.
- 18
- 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:45,493
- I'm sorry, but it seems as if you're
- not taking this very seriously.
- 19
- 00:01:45,659 --> 00:01:48,576
- I'm telling you about the worst
- thing that's happened to me,
- 20
- 00:01:48,743 --> 00:01:53,951
- that I at that point, within seconds,
- lost all sexual sensation.
- 21
- 00:01:54,118 --> 00:01:56,368
- My cunt simply went numb.
- 22
- 00:01:56,534 --> 00:01:58,618
- And immediately
- we have to hear about
- 23
- 00:01:58,784 --> 00:02:01,243
- this ridiculous
- mathematical problem.
- 24
- 00:02:01,409 --> 00:02:05,909
- In fact, I'm in doubt
- whether you're even listening.
- 25
- 00:02:06,076 --> 00:02:08,451
- Why do you doubt that?
- 26
- 00:02:11,618 --> 00:02:14,868
- This is not a story I've told
- in its entirety before,
- 27
- 00:02:15,034 --> 00:02:19,493
- but whenever I've told other men
- about experiences,
- 28
- 00:02:19,659 --> 00:02:22,701
- episodes in my sex life,
- 29
- 00:02:22,868 --> 00:02:25,993
- it was easy to see
- that they became quite excited.
- 30
- 00:02:26,159 --> 00:02:28,701
- I got excited.
- 31
- 00:02:28,868 --> 00:02:32,159
- Yes, about the mathematical crap,
- not about the story.
- 32
- 00:02:40,034 --> 00:02:43,868
- What kind of a person
- are you, actually?
- 33
- 00:02:52,284 --> 00:02:54,368
- You wouldn't know.
- 34
- 00:03:00,493 --> 00:03:02,076
- No, but I can guess.
- 35
- 00:03:05,743 --> 00:03:08,577
- Why didn't I get that earlier?
- 36
- 00:03:08,744 --> 00:03:13,785
- The fact you don't get excited
- over my dirty stories
- 37
- 00:03:13,952 --> 00:03:15,994
- is because you can't relate
- to them.
- 38
- 00:03:18,410 --> 00:03:20,952
- You've never been with a woman.
- 39
- 00:03:32,577 --> 00:03:36,202
- That's quite accurate.
- 40
- 00:03:36,369 --> 00:03:38,702
- Not with a man, either.
- 41
- 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,494
- Are you sorry about that?
- 42
- 00:03:54,119 --> 00:03:59,619
- Well, yeah, out of curiosity...
- 43
- 00:04:00,910 --> 00:04:04,244
- not out of lust,
- as you would think.
- 44
- 00:04:09,994 --> 00:04:14,952
- I consider myself asexual.
- 45
- 00:04:15,119 --> 00:04:19,869
- Of course, I experimented with
- masturbation when I was a teenager,
- 46
- 00:04:20,035 --> 00:04:24,285
- but it didn't do much for me.
- 47
- 00:04:26,744 --> 00:04:30,452
- So, there's nothing sexual
- about me.
- 48
- 00:04:36,077 --> 00:04:38,869
- It's not as uncommon
- as you would think.
- 49
- 00:04:39,035 --> 00:04:43,744
- And of course, I've read a lot
- about sexual subjects...
- 50
- 00:04:43,910 --> 00:04:49,077
- 'Canterbury Tales',' Decameron',
- 'Thousand and One Nights'.
- 51
- 00:04:49,244 --> 00:04:53,077
- You name it and I've read it
- with great interest
- 52
- 00:04:53,244 --> 00:04:55,619
- and enjoyment,
- 53
- 00:04:55,785 --> 00:04:58,494
- but only literary enjoyment.
- 54
- 00:05:00,452 --> 00:05:02,910
- But... but I think
- maybe it makes me
- 55
- 00:05:03,077 --> 00:05:05,744
- a better listener
- to your story, and...
- 56
- 00:05:05,910 --> 00:05:12,619
- I have no preconceived notions
- or preferences.
- 57
- 00:05:12,785 --> 00:05:16,369
- I'm actually the best judge
- you could give your story to.
- 58
- 00:05:16,535 --> 00:05:19,577
- And when it comes to deciding whether
- you're a bad human being or not,
- 59
- 00:05:19,744 --> 00:05:22,952
- I'm... I've no problems with that.
- 60
- 00:05:23,119 --> 00:05:26,119
- Because I don't look at you
- through the glasses
- 61
- 00:05:26,285 --> 00:05:30,452
- colored by sexuality
- or sexual experience.
- 62
- 00:05:32,577 --> 00:05:34,702
- I'm a virgin.
- 63
- 00:05:36,369 --> 00:05:38,494
- I'm innocent.
- 64
- 00:05:59,035 --> 00:06:01,327
- She's looking at me.
- 65
- 00:06:01,494 --> 00:06:04,369
- Yes.
- 66
- 00:06:04,535 --> 00:06:08,327
- It's an icon.
- ls it Russian?
- 67
- 00:06:08,494 --> 00:06:09,827
- Yes, it's, uh...
- 68
- 00:06:09,994 --> 00:06:15,035
- It's a skilled copy,
- maybe in the manner of Rublev.
- 69
- 00:06:20,369 --> 00:06:23,827
- Icons are usually connected
- to the Eastern Church.
- 70
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- The Eastern Church?
- 71
- 00:06:26,410 --> 00:06:28,952
- I might become a bit theoretical.
- 72
- 00:06:30,494 --> 00:06:35,202
- You may. I'd like you to tell me
- about your picture.
- 73
- 00:06:35,369 --> 00:06:40,285
- Although the Christian church
- was split up in 1054
- 74
- 00:06:40,494 --> 00:06:41,827
- because of differences in opinion
- 75
- 00:06:41,994 --> 00:06:44,744
- between the Eastern Church
- and the Western Church,
- 76
- 00:06:44,910 --> 00:06:51,119
- what we today call the Orthodox Church
- and the Roman Catholic Church,
- 77
- 00:06:51,285 --> 00:06:54,910
- this is a typical Eastern Church icon.
- 78
- 00:06:55,077 --> 00:06:58,077
- It usually depicts the Virgin Mary
- 79
- 00:06:58,244 --> 00:07:00,244
- and the infant Jesus
- and more rarely,
- 80
- 00:07:00,410 --> 00:07:02,202
- for instance, the crucifixion,
- 81
- 00:07:02,369 --> 00:07:05,494
- which in the Western Church
- was much more prevalent.
- 82
- 00:07:05,660 --> 00:07:09,119
- If you generalize, you could say
- that the Western Church
- 83
- 00:07:09,285 --> 00:07:10,869
- is the church of suffering,
- 84
- 00:07:11,035 --> 00:07:14,702
- and the Eastern Church
- is the church of happiness.
- 85
- 00:07:17,369 --> 00:07:20,119
- Why is she looking right at me?
- 86
- 00:07:21,702 --> 00:07:23,369
- Well, she's telling a story.
- 87
- 00:07:23,535 --> 00:07:25,160
- Icons were originally a kind of
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- 00:07:25,327 --> 00:07:28,285
- pictorial Bibles for the illiterate.
- 89
- 00:07:28,452 --> 00:07:30,494
- There are some who say you...
- 90
- 00:07:30,660 --> 00:07:34,202
- you read an icon, even write it.
- 91
- 00:07:36,244 --> 00:07:40,953
- There are different types of icons.
- This is a Hodegetria.
- 92
- 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,453
- The directions are very important.
- 93
- 00:07:43,620 --> 00:07:47,870
- She's looking at you, but she's
- pointing at the baby Jesus.
- 94
- 00:07:48,036 --> 00:07:51,036
- And he's looking at you
- and pointing at her.
- 95
- 00:07:52,245 --> 00:07:57,370
- Do you see how flat it is?
- There's no... no perspective.
- 96
- 00:07:59,286 --> 00:08:02,453
- It's because it's an image of eternity.
- 97
- 00:08:03,536 --> 00:08:06,286
- And eternity isn't in 3-D.
- 98
- 00:08:07,328 --> 00:08:11,370
- But you said the Eastern Church
- was the church of joy?
- 99
- 00:08:12,411 --> 00:08:14,995
- Yeah, the sanctities
- of the Eastern Church
- 100
- 00:08:15,161 --> 00:08:17,620
- were all about the joy of faith
- 101
- 00:08:17,786 --> 00:08:21,661
- while the Western Church wallowed
- in... in suffering and death.
- 102
- 00:08:21,828 --> 00:08:26,203
- If you imagine a... a mental
- journey from Rome eastward,
- 103
- 00:08:26,370 --> 00:08:29,995
- you feel how you move away
- from guilt and pain
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- 00:08:30,161 --> 00:08:31,661
- towards joy and light.
- 105
- 00:08:31,828 --> 00:08:34,495
- But you say
- you didn't believe in God.
- 106
- 00:08:34,661 --> 00:08:39,911
- No, but the concept of religion
- is interesting.
- 107
- 00:08:40,078 --> 00:08:43,245
- Like the concept of sex.
- 108
- 00:08:43,411 --> 00:08:45,245
- But you won't find me
- on my knees
- 109
- 00:08:45,411 --> 00:08:47,828
- with regards to either.
- 110
- 00:08:47,995 --> 00:08:52,036
- Let's call this chapter,
- 111
- 00:08:52,203 --> 00:08:55,078
- 'The Eastern Church
- and the Western Church.'
- 112
- 00:08:55,245 --> 00:08:56,870
- But it won't be...
- 113
- 00:08:57,036 --> 00:09:00,286
- it won't be a story about
- traveling east from Rome
- 114
- 00:09:00,453 --> 00:09:03,703
- towards the light,
- but rather the opposite.
- 115
- 00:09:03,870 --> 00:09:07,286
- So, in order
- not to make it too sad,
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- 00:09:07,453 --> 00:09:10,786
- I've pepped up the name of
- the chapter with an extra title.
- 117
- 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,078
- I have to go back a bit.
- 118
- 00:09:19,245 --> 00:09:23,828
- I was 12 years old and
- on a school trip in the hills.
- 119
- 00:12:02,911 --> 00:12:05,870
- Are you making fun of me?
- - What do you mean?
- 120
- 00:12:06,036 --> 00:12:07,870
- You have this orgasm,
- not only an orgasm
- 121
- 00:12:08,036 --> 00:12:11,329
- but a spontaneous orgasm.
- - Yes, it was an orgasm,
- 122
- 00:12:11,496 --> 00:12:15,537
- though the doctor described it
- as an epileptic seizure.
- 123
- 00:12:15,704 --> 00:12:18,996
- And during that orgasm,
- you had this vision?
- 124
- 00:12:19,162 --> 00:12:22,954
- Of these two women
- on each side of you.
- 125
- 00:12:23,121 --> 00:12:26,537
- The woman on my right side
- seemed to be dressed
- 126
- 00:12:26,704 --> 00:12:28,871
- in purple and scarlet
- 127
- 00:12:29,037 --> 00:12:32,037
- with a lot of gold and pearls.
- 128
- 00:12:33,079 --> 00:12:36,204
- She was carrying a golden goblet
- in her hand.
- 129
- 00:12:36,371 --> 00:12:41,621
- She was sitting
- on some strange animal.
- 130
- 00:12:41,787 --> 00:12:46,496
- And then the other woman
- was dressed in Roman clothes,
- 131
- 00:12:46,662 --> 00:12:48,454
- a baby on her arm
- 132
- 00:12:48,621 --> 00:12:53,496
- and her hair lay in tight waves
- beneath a veil.
- 133
- 00:12:57,079 --> 00:13:00,454
- Was she holding the veil
- with two fingers like this?
- 134
- 00:13:01,537 --> 00:13:02,787
- And the other woman,
- 135
- 00:13:02,954 --> 00:13:07,579
- was she sitting on an animal
- with seven heads and ten horns?
- 136
- 00:13:07,746 --> 00:13:12,246
- The animal only had one head.
- It was kind of a bull.
- 137
- 00:13:16,662 --> 00:13:19,162
- What's the matter?
- 138
- 00:13:20,787 --> 00:13:22,287
- You're making this up.
- 139
- 00:13:22,454 --> 00:13:25,871
- No, I'm not. I'm telling you
- about my first orgasm,
- 140
- 00:13:26,037 --> 00:13:28,496
- which came upon me
- without the slightest touch
- 141
- 00:13:28,662 --> 00:13:32,246
- in some strange ways
- up in the mountains.
- 142
- 00:13:32,412 --> 00:13:35,037
- I never had achieved
- an orgasm before,
- 143
- 00:13:35,204 --> 00:13:36,287
- even though I masturbated
- 144
- 00:13:36,496 --> 00:13:39,412
- as if my life depended on it
- during that time.
- 145
- 00:13:43,704 --> 00:13:48,829
- Your story is like a...
- blasphemous retelling
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- 00:13:48,996 --> 00:13:52,996
- of the Transfiguration
- of Jesus on the Mount,
- 147
- 00:13:53,162 --> 00:13:58,121
- which is one of the Eastern Church's
- holiest passages.
- 148
- 00:13:58,287 --> 00:14:01,746
- It's when the humanity of Christ
- is illuminated
- 149
- 00:14:01,912 --> 00:14:04,287
- by the divine light of eternity.
- 150
- 00:14:04,454 --> 00:14:08,287
- Jesus, Peter and two disciples
- had climbed a mountain.
- 151
- 00:14:08,454 --> 00:14:10,746
- And suddenly,
- the disciples see this light
- 152
- 00:14:10,912 --> 00:14:13,287
- emanating from Jesus' head.
- 153
- 00:14:13,412 --> 00:14:16,162
- And Moses and Elijah
- appear by his side.
- 154
- 00:14:16,329 --> 00:14:20,871
- And they hear the voice of God,
- calling him his son.
- 155
- 00:14:21,037 --> 00:14:26,204
- The relationship between...
- between the two women and you
- 156
- 00:14:26,371 --> 00:14:28,746
- would be the same
- as the relation
- 157
- 00:14:28,912 --> 00:14:33,412
- between Moses and Elijah
- and Jesus.
- 158
- 00:14:33,579 --> 00:14:36,204
- And that's where
- it becomes blasphemous.
- 159
- 00:14:37,829 --> 00:14:39,204
- I see.
- 160
- 00:14:39,371 --> 00:14:40,787
- You don't even...
- 161
- 00:14:40,954 --> 00:14:43,829
- you don't even know who
- these women were, do you?
- 162
- 00:14:46,829 --> 00:14:50,537
- No, but one of them did look
- like the Virgin Mary,
- 163
- 00:14:50,704 --> 00:14:51,996
- now that you mention it.
- 164
- 00:14:52,162 --> 00:14:54,079
- Well, it wasn't the Virgin Mary,
- I can tell you that.
- 165
- 00:14:55,454 --> 00:14:56,704
- From your description,
- 166
- 00:14:56,871 --> 00:14:59,246
- it must've been
- Valeria Messalina,
- 167
- 00:14:59,412 --> 00:15:01,829
- the wife of Emperor Claudius,
- 168
- 00:15:01,996 --> 00:15:05,621
- the most notorious nymphomaniac
- in history.
- 169
- 00:15:08,287 --> 00:15:10,746
- I thought she looked
- like your icon.
- 170
- 00:15:10,912 --> 00:15:14,037
- We have that image
- from a statue in the Louvre.
- 171
- 00:15:14,204 --> 00:15:19,454
- It's made like a Hodegetria, but it's
- not a religious person, far from it.
- 172
- 00:15:20,662 --> 00:15:24,371
- And the other woman,
- the one astride the creature,
- 173
- 00:15:24,537 --> 00:15:27,454
- that was no one else
- but the great Whore of Babylon,
- 174
- 00:15:27,621 --> 00:15:31,537
- riding on Nimrod
- in the form of a bull.
- 175
- 00:15:35,621 --> 00:15:38,204
- If anyone else
- would've told me that story,
- 176
- 00:15:38,371 --> 00:15:41,371
- I would've seen it
- as a blasphemous joke,
- 177
- 00:15:41,537 --> 00:15:43,204
- spiced up with a Biblical light
- 178
- 00:15:43,371 --> 00:15:47,829
- emanating from nothing less
- than a spontaneous orgasm.
- 179
- 00:15:49,996 --> 00:15:51,912
- Goodness gracious.
- 180
- 00:15:52,079 --> 00:15:54,787
- You demand a lot
- of your listener.
- 181
- 00:15:55,996 --> 00:15:59,454
- I promise you I'm as innocent
- in regards to the religious
- 182
- 00:15:59,621 --> 00:16:02,579
- as you are when it comes to sex.
- 183
- 00:16:04,454 --> 00:16:07,204
- The Transfiguration
- on the Venus Mount.
- 184
- 00:16:09,954 --> 00:16:13,996
- And then later,
- you lost your orgasm altogether.
- 185
- 00:16:19,371 --> 00:16:21,662
- Wagner.'Das Rheingold'.
- 186
- 00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:26,329
- The descent into Nibelheim.
- Was it that bad?
- 187
- 00:16:26,496 --> 00:16:29,662
- Try to imagine that
- in one fell swoop,
- 188
- 00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:32,037
- you lost all desire to read
- 189
- 00:16:32,204 --> 00:16:35,537
- and all your love and passion
- for books and letters.
- 190
- 00:16:35,704 --> 00:16:38,579
- I don't even know
- if I can imagine that.
- 191
- 00:17:00,872 --> 00:17:02,413
- Can I help you?
- 192
- 00:18:04,372 --> 00:18:06,580
- But as so often before in my life,
- 193
- 00:18:06,747 --> 00:18:11,205
- a bit of hope sprang
- from a mystical event.
- 194
- 00:18:11,372 --> 00:18:12,538
- Which was?
- 195
- 00:18:12,705 --> 00:18:17,288
- Three dead leaves
- performing a strange ballet.
- 196
- 00:18:17,455 --> 00:18:21,538
- That gave you hope?
- For what?
- 197
- 00:18:21,705 --> 00:18:26,080
- For regaining my sexuality.
- - How?
- 198
- 00:18:28,538 --> 00:18:31,038
- To claim it by force.
- 199
- 00:18:58,913 --> 00:19:01,538
- In spite of my tireless efforts,
- 200
- 00:19:01,705 --> 00:19:04,913
- my cunt totally failed to respond.
- 201
- 00:19:06,247 --> 00:19:08,663
- But the fact
- that the initiative had shifted
- 202
- 00:19:08,830 --> 00:19:11,747
- seemed to encourage Jerome greatly.
- 203
- 00:19:11,913 --> 00:19:13,788
- And I have to admit
- there came a time
- 204
- 00:19:13,955 --> 00:19:16,747
- when we had fun together.
- 205
- 00:19:20,663 --> 00:19:22,872
- I'll give you a fiver.
- 206
- 00:19:23,163 --> 00:19:25,038
- Uh-huh.
- 207
- 00:19:25,538 --> 00:19:28,163
- If you can put this...
- 208
- 00:19:28,330 --> 00:19:30,663
- up inside your cunt.
- 209
- 00:19:30,830 --> 00:19:34,330
- A fiver?
- - Right.
- 210
- 00:19:47,997 --> 00:19:49,913
- Shit.
- 211
- 00:20:32,538 --> 00:20:35,538
- Thank you.
- - You're welcome.
- 212
- 00:20:38,913 --> 00:20:42,580
- Didn't you get any spoons?
- - No, we didn't.
- 213
- 00:21:39,331 --> 00:21:41,831
- So what does this tell us?
- 214
- 00:21:41,998 --> 00:21:45,081
- That love and sex have nothing
- to do with each other, or...
- 215
- 00:21:45,248 --> 00:21:48,164
- or that they decidedly
- work against one another?
- 216
- 00:21:48,331 --> 00:21:51,581
- The most grotesque thing
- was that it was during that period,
- 217
- 00:21:51,706 --> 00:21:55,956
- where every sexual sensation
- was denied me, a period,
- 218
- 00:21:56,123 --> 00:21:59,914
- I must admit, of secure
- and restful domestic comfort.
- 219
- 00:22:00,081 --> 00:22:02,914
- We had moved in together
- and so on,
- 220
- 00:22:03,081 --> 00:22:04,498
- that I became pregnant,
- 221
- 00:22:04,664 --> 00:22:07,623
- because I was careless
- about my birth control pills.
- 222
- 00:22:07,789 --> 00:22:10,789
- Consciously or unconsciously,
- 223
- 00:22:10,956 --> 00:22:13,956
- it was important for me
- to have a Caesarean.
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- 00:22:14,123 --> 00:22:17,081
- I mean, I was hoping that my cunt
- was going to fucking work again,
- 225
- 00:22:18,164 --> 00:22:20,956
- and I had a feeling
- that a haphazard birth
- 226
- 00:22:21,123 --> 00:22:23,956
- wouldn't make things better.
- 227
- 00:22:24,123 --> 00:22:26,331
- I may have been imagining things,
- 228
- 00:22:26,498 --> 00:22:29,539
- but as I lay there,
- the noise from the instruments
- 229
- 00:22:29,706 --> 00:22:33,039
- rang out in a chord like
- the one from the Little Flock.
- 230
- 00:22:34,998 --> 00:22:38,164
- Yes. And it wasn't fear.
- 231
- 00:22:38,331 --> 00:22:41,873
- More like a kind of disgust.
- 232
- 00:22:55,998 --> 00:22:59,289
- I could've sworn
- I saw him laughing.
- 233
- 00:22:59,456 --> 00:23:01,498
- A laughing son.
- 234
- 00:23:01,664 --> 00:23:03,248
- In 'Doctor Faustus',
- Thomas Mann describes
- 235
- 00:23:03,414 --> 00:23:05,914
- the birth of Noah's son Ham,
- 236
- 00:23:06,081 --> 00:23:07,873
- who was laughing when he was born.
- 237
- 00:23:09,956 --> 00:23:11,539
- Another satanic omen.
- 238
- 00:23:15,414 --> 00:23:20,289
- Incidentally, the innocent child
- was named Marcel after Mars,
- 239
- 00:23:20,456 --> 00:23:21,831
- the Roman God of War.
- 240
- 00:23:21,998 --> 00:23:24,081
- And motherhood?
- 241
- 00:23:24,248 --> 00:23:28,456
- I assume maternal love didn't
- quite live up to its expectations.
- 242
- 00:23:28,623 --> 00:23:31,331
- No, I didn't have
- any expectations.
- 243
- 00:23:31,498 --> 00:23:34,123
- And maternal love
- wasn't a problem.
- 244
- 00:23:35,206 --> 00:23:38,706
- It was just that each time
- I looked into the child's eyes,
- 245
- 00:23:39,456 --> 00:23:43,956
- I had this unsettling feeling
- of having been found out.
- 246
- 00:23:47,331 --> 00:23:50,623
- It's probably
- a strange thing to say about a child...
- 247
- 00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:54,039
- that my love wasn't being returned.
- 248
- 00:23:54,206 --> 00:23:57,123
- But it was my perception.
- 249
- 00:23:59,331 --> 00:24:02,414
- If Jerome had hoped for a break
- from what was for him
- 250
- 00:24:02,581 --> 00:24:06,373
- now mostly strenuous work,
- he could forget about it.
- 251
- 00:24:06,539 --> 00:24:10,248
- Achilles was again chasing
- the tortoise.
- 252
- 00:24:13,623 --> 00:24:16,789
- Fill all my holes.
- - I can't, Joe.
- 253
- 00:24:21,498 --> 00:24:23,248
- I'm sorry.
- 254
- 00:24:25,914 --> 00:24:27,789
- I'm trying.
- 255
- 00:24:33,748 --> 00:24:36,748
- Can we talk a bit?
- - Of course.
- 256
- 00:24:41,956 --> 00:24:46,748
- I love you. I love your wildness
- and your desire. I love you, Joe.
- 257
- 00:24:49,081 --> 00:24:50,789
- At the moment,
- I don't seem to satisfy you
- 258
- 00:24:50,956 --> 00:24:53,039
- in the way that I'd like to.
- 259
- 00:24:54,331 --> 00:24:55,206
- Don't get upset, Joe.
- 260
- 00:24:55,373 --> 00:24:56,873
- It doesn't mean we won't continue
- with our sex life,
- 261
- 00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:59,373
- which is very important to me.
- 262
- 00:25:00,748 --> 00:25:02,873
- Very important to me.
- 263
- 00:25:04,664 --> 00:25:07,873
- When you buy a tiger, right,
- 264
- 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:09,998
- you also have to feed it.
- 265
- 00:25:10,164 --> 00:25:14,831
- Um, satisfy it, right?
- 266
- 00:25:21,581 --> 00:25:23,831
- Long story short.
- 267
- 00:25:24,456 --> 00:25:25,956
- I have a tiger on my hands.
- 268
- 00:25:26,123 --> 00:25:28,664
- You mean I'm too much for you.
- - No.
- 269
- 00:25:28,831 --> 00:25:31,289
- You're just the way you should be.
- 270
- 00:25:31,456 --> 00:25:33,123
- I was just thinking
- if you would consider
- 271
- 00:25:33,289 --> 00:25:36,331
- that I get a little help
- with the feeding, that's all.
- 272
- 00:25:39,706 --> 00:25:43,331
- You're saying I should have sex
- with others as well.
- 273
- 00:25:49,499 --> 00:25:53,832
- That's a rather cruel way
- of putting it, Joe, but...
- 274
- 00:25:53,999 --> 00:25:56,374
- But exact.
- - Exact.
- 275
- 00:26:08,374 --> 00:26:10,832
- For a long time I'd
- been playing around with the idea
- 276
- 00:26:10,999 --> 00:26:13,332
- that the concept of
- the fuck-me-now clothes
- 277
- 00:26:13,499 --> 00:26:14,624
- could be improved.
- 278
- 00:26:15,957 --> 00:26:17,415
- You look nice.
- 279
- 00:26:17,582 --> 00:26:20,707
- And became the piano teacher.
- 280
- 00:26:43,415 --> 00:26:46,457
- You okay?
- - No.
- 281
- 00:26:46,665 --> 00:26:49,499
- What's the matter?
- - Well, I'm such an idiot with cars.
- 282
- 00:26:49,665 --> 00:26:51,749
- I don't really know what to do.
- Do you mind helping me?
- 283
- 00:26:53,790 --> 00:26:57,457
- Of course it won't work. The
- spark plug caps have been removed.
- 284
- 00:26:57,624 --> 00:27:01,582
- Yes, I did that.
- Was that wrong?
- 285
- 00:27:01,749 --> 00:27:03,790
- For the first time
- I had the pleasure
- 286
- 00:27:03,957 --> 00:27:05,832
- of having an eight-cylinder car.
- 287
- 00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:07,749
- The possible combinations
- 288
- 00:27:07,915 --> 00:27:10,790
- of eight spark plug caps
- on eight spark plugs
- 289
- 00:27:10,957 --> 00:27:13,707
- are 40,320,
- 290
- 00:27:13,874 --> 00:27:16,582
- if I remember
- my math correctly.
- 291
- 00:27:16,749 --> 00:27:20,249
- And only one of these
- will make the car run,
- 292
- 00:27:20,415 --> 00:27:22,624
- which gave me
- all the time I needed.
- 293
- 00:27:22,790 --> 00:27:25,665
- Beethoven, huh?
- He was certainly very good,
- 294
- 00:27:25,832 --> 00:27:27,540
- but, you know,
- he couldn't write a fugue.
- 295
- 00:27:27,707 --> 00:27:32,499
- You think so?
- - Well, yeah, I think so.
- 296
- 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:50,957
- It would be more precise
- to say that Beethoven
- 297
- 00:27:51,124 --> 00:27:53,707
- renewed the fugue.
- 298
- 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,415
- That he was such a visionary
- that the old Bach purists,
- 299
- 00:27:58,582 --> 00:28:01,749
- they accused him
- of not mastering it.
- 300
- 00:28:23,957 --> 00:28:25,957
- Good day?
- 301
- 00:28:33,915 --> 00:28:36,582
- Not one word was ever spoken
- 302
- 00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:40,040
- between me and Jerome
- about my piano lessons.
- 303
- 00:28:54,249 --> 00:28:56,165
- The first time the
- mysterious letters
- 304
- 00:28:56,332 --> 00:28:57,374
- addressed to me arrived,
- 305
- 00:28:57,540 --> 00:29:00,165
- I, of course, feared that
- they were love letters
- 306
- 00:29:00,332 --> 00:29:03,540
- from someone I'd completely
- forgotten about and hid them,
- 307
- 00:29:03,707 --> 00:29:07,540
- so as not to hurt Jerome
- if he should see them.
- 308
- 00:29:14,374 --> 00:29:17,749
- But as Jerome was always somehow
- present when I would get the mail,
- 309
- 00:29:17,915 --> 00:29:21,082
- and as the envelopes
- were always empty,
- 310
- 00:29:21,249 --> 00:29:23,290
- I understood that the letters,
- in fact,
- 311
- 00:29:23,457 --> 00:29:27,457
- were sent by Jerome himself
- as a way of testing me.
- 312
- 00:29:29,499 --> 00:29:31,332
- My decision not to
- show them to him
- 313
- 00:29:31,499 --> 00:29:34,124
- was exactly the reaction
- he had feared,
- 314
- 00:29:34,290 --> 00:29:37,124
- and it reaffirmed
- his insane jealousy
- 315
- 00:29:37,290 --> 00:29:40,749
- and his fantasies
- of the countless times
- 316
- 00:29:40,915 --> 00:29:44,457
- I would fall in love for real
- while being the piano teacher.
- 317
- 00:30:13,207 --> 00:30:14,832
- And now to reach the heart
- 318
- 00:30:14,957 --> 00:30:16,916
- of your suffering Western Church,
- 319
- 00:30:17,083 --> 00:30:20,291
- I have to jump ahead
- three years in the story
- 320
- 00:30:20,458 --> 00:30:23,583
- and talk about my meeting
- with what I would call
- 321
- 00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:25,000
- 'The Dangerous Men.'
- 322
- 00:30:31,375 --> 00:30:34,458
- I was alone with Marcel a lot
- during this period,
- 323
- 00:30:34,625 --> 00:30:37,500
- as Jerome was traveling
- most of the time,
- 324
- 00:30:37,666 --> 00:30:40,416
- and when he was finally home,
- he spent most of the time
- 325
- 00:30:40,583 --> 00:30:43,083
- accusing me of neglecting Marcel,
- 326
- 00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:44,583
- which, in my opinion,
- 327
- 00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:48,000
- was just a cover for
- his anger over my lovers.
- 328
- 00:30:48,166 --> 00:30:52,583
- Despite my, to put it mildly,
- promiscuous initiatives,
- 329
- 00:30:52,791 --> 00:30:56,250
- any sexual satisfaction,
- let alone orgasm,
- 330
- 00:30:56,416 --> 00:30:59,708
- was further away than ever before.
- 331
- 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,583
- I had to make a change.
- 332
- 00:31:20,750 --> 00:31:22,625
- And somehow,
- the inspiration had been
- 333
- 00:31:22,791 --> 00:31:26,416
- right there beneath my window
- the whole time.
- 334
- 00:31:26,583 --> 00:31:29,916
- I'd planned to go where
- I would never before
- 335
- 00:31:30,083 --> 00:31:32,000
- had dreamt of going.
- 336
- 00:31:32,166 --> 00:31:37,416
- For instance, to be with a man with
- whom I shared no spoken language.
- 337
- 00:31:37,583 --> 00:31:40,416
- I could feel that
- it turned me on enormously
- 338
- 00:31:40,583 --> 00:31:43,458
- to imagine a sexual situation
- 339
- 00:31:43,625 --> 00:31:48,166
- in which verbal communication
- was impossible.
- 340
- 00:31:51,416 --> 00:31:52,500
- Hello.
- - Hello.
- 341
- 00:31:52,666 --> 00:31:54,583
- I'm Tobias, the interpreter.
- 342
- 00:31:54,750 --> 00:31:57,208
- Hello, I'm Joe. Come in.
- 343
- 00:31:57,375 --> 00:32:00,041
- I understand that you mastered
- the African languages.
- 344
- 00:32:00,208 --> 00:32:03,000
- I do have a basis.
- 345
- 00:32:03,166 --> 00:32:05,125
- Who and what needs
- interpretation?
- 346
- 00:32:05,291 --> 00:32:10,500
- Um, that man.
- The one with the green jacket.
- 347
- 00:32:10,666 --> 00:32:13,166
- What language is being spoken?
- 348
- 00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:15,000
- Well, God knows. I...
- 349
- 00:32:15,166 --> 00:32:18,166
- All I know is that
- he doesn't speak English.
- 350
- 00:32:36,458 --> 00:32:39,208
- It's quite difficult.
- 351
- 00:32:39,375 --> 00:32:43,458
- But, uh, we did manage
- to find a dialect,
- 352
- 00:32:43,625 --> 00:32:45,083
- of which we both
- had some knowledge.
- 353
- 00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:46,166
- Mm-hm.
- 354
- 00:32:48,458 --> 00:32:49,583
- You coming?
- 355
- 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:52,375
- No, I'll stay here,
- and the two of you communicate.
- 356
- 00:32:54,458 --> 00:32:57,791
- You are to ask him if he wants
- to have sex with me.
- 357
- 00:32:57,958 --> 00:33:00,416
- Sex?
- - Mm-hmm.
- 358
- 00:33:02,666 --> 00:33:04,875
- Yeah, um...
- 359
- 00:33:28,833 --> 00:33:32,208
- ls it a go?
- - It's hard to say.
- 360
- 00:33:33,083 --> 00:33:38,166
- I've written down
- the time and place, but, um...
- 361
- 00:33:39,041 --> 00:33:41,125
- Honestly, I wouldn't like
- to take responsibility
- 362
- 00:33:41,291 --> 00:33:44,458
- for the precise wording
- in this case, which I think,
- 363
- 00:33:44,625 --> 00:33:47,875
- uh, accidentally may belong
- 364
- 00:33:48,041 --> 00:33:51,250
- to a Grey zone in my profession.
- 365
- 00:33:53,250 --> 00:33:55,666
- It was the address of
- a cheap hotel.
- 366
- 00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:05,666
- Why were there two?
- 367
- 00:34:05,833 --> 00:34:07,666
- My words exactly.
- 368
- 00:34:07,833 --> 00:34:11,750
- Apparently, N had brought
- his brother along.
- 369
- 00:36:48,167 --> 00:36:50,042
- Why was he so angry?
- 370
- 00:36:50,209 --> 00:36:52,834
- Clearly, it was something
- personal between them,
- 371
- 00:36:53,001 --> 00:36:55,709
- but later I heard that
- performing a sandwich
- 372
- 00:36:55,876 --> 00:36:59,084
- requires great sensitivity,
- since the men apparently
- 373
- 00:36:59,251 --> 00:37:01,751
- can feel each other
- through the tissue.
- 374
- 00:37:01,917 --> 00:37:05,334
- I imagine the quarrel had
- already started on the stairs
- 375
- 00:37:05,501 --> 00:37:08,542
- and that one or the other party
- had laid claim
- 376
- 00:37:08,709 --> 00:37:10,709
- to one or the other of my holes
- 377
- 00:37:10,834 --> 00:37:14,376
- in conflict with his Negro
- brother's interests.
- 378
- 00:37:14,542 --> 00:37:17,209
- You shouldn't use that word.
- 379
- 00:37:17,376 --> 00:37:20,209
- It's not what you call
- politically correct.
- 380
- 00:37:20,376 --> 00:37:21,417
- Negro.
- 381
- 00:37:21,584 --> 00:37:24,376
- Well, excuse me,
- but in my circles,
- 382
- 00:37:24,542 --> 00:37:27,251
- it's always been a mark of honor
- to call a spade a spade.
- 383
- 00:37:28,501 --> 00:37:31,376
- Each time a word becomes prohibited,
- 384
- 00:37:31,542 --> 00:37:34,084
- you remove a stone
- from the democratic foundation.
- 385
- 00:37:34,251 --> 00:37:38,959
- Society demonstrates its impotence
- in the face of a concrete problem
- 386
- 00:37:39,126 --> 00:37:41,042
- by removing words
- from the language.
- 387
- 00:37:41,209 --> 00:37:44,792
- The book burners have nothing
- on modern society.
- 388
- 00:37:44,959 --> 00:37:46,042
- I think society would claim
- 389
- 00:37:46,209 --> 00:37:49,876
- that politically correctness
- is a very precise expression
- 390
- 00:37:50,042 --> 00:37:52,834
- of democratic concern
- for minorities.
- 391
- 00:37:53,001 --> 00:37:58,001
- And I say that society is
- as cowardly as the people in it
- 392
- 00:37:58,167 --> 00:38:02,042
- who, in my opinion, are also
- too stupid for democracy.
- 393
- 00:38:04,084 --> 00:38:07,751
- I understand your point,
- but I totally disagree.
- 394
- 00:38:07,917 --> 00:38:09,376
- I have no doubt
- in the human qualities.
- 395
- 00:38:10,792 --> 00:38:14,376
- The human qualities can be
- expressed in one word:
- 396
- 00:38:14,542 --> 00:38:15,626
- hypocrisy.
- 397
- 00:38:16,584 --> 00:38:20,376
- We elevate those who say
- right but mean wrong,
- 398
- 00:38:20,542 --> 00:38:23,376
- and mock those who say
- wrong but mean right.
- 399
- 00:38:25,334 --> 00:38:27,834
- Society is based on hate.
- 400
- 00:38:28,001 --> 00:38:30,334
- It should be based
- on forgiveness.
- 401
- 00:38:31,626 --> 00:38:34,251
- Hatred is rudimentary.
- 402
- 00:38:36,167 --> 00:38:39,959
- One should be able
- to forgive one's executioner.
- 403
- 00:38:44,751 --> 00:38:46,834
- By the way, I can assure you
- 404
- 00:38:47,001 --> 00:38:51,209
- that women who claim that Negros
- don't turn them on are lying.
- 405
- 00:38:51,376 --> 00:38:54,042
- So, did they satisfy you?
- 406
- 00:38:54,209 --> 00:38:55,917
- Those Ne... Negros.
- 407
- 00:38:57,459 --> 00:39:02,334
- No, but they showed me that
- there was a world far from mine
- 408
- 00:39:02,501 --> 00:39:04,792
- I had to explore.
- 409
- 00:39:04,959 --> 00:39:08,001
- And there, or perhaps
- on the other side
- 410
- 00:39:08,167 --> 00:39:09,876
- get my life back.
- 411
- 00:39:56,085 --> 00:39:58,377
- Who are you?
- 412
- 00:40:00,460 --> 00:40:01,960
- I know what you do.
- 413
- 00:40:02,877 --> 00:40:06,210
- I'd like to be
- one of the women you see.
- 414
- 00:40:09,918 --> 00:40:12,168
- That's of no interest.
- 415
- 00:40:18,043 --> 00:40:19,793
- Madame.
- 416
- 00:41:12,877 --> 00:41:16,418
- Princess,
- I specifically said five days,
- 417
- 00:41:16,543 --> 00:41:19,793
- and five days haven't gone yet.
- 418
- 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:25,835
- So, you'll have to leave.
- Sorry.
- 419
- 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,960
- You still here?
- 420
- 00:41:40,127 --> 00:41:42,210
- I, uh...
- 421
- 00:41:43,127 --> 00:41:45,585
- I don't think this is for you.
- 422
- 00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:53,085
- Shall we conduct a small test?
- 423
- 00:41:56,460 --> 00:41:58,252
- Stand up.
- 424
- 00:42:06,502 --> 00:42:08,293
- Sit down, please.
- 425
- 00:42:16,085 --> 00:42:22,043
- I just want you to sit
- completely relaxed
- 426
- 00:42:22,210 --> 00:42:24,793
- while I hit you in the face.
- 427
- 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,668
- Nothing special.
- 428
- 00:42:26,835 --> 00:42:31,168
- It's just a...
- it's just a slap.
- 429
- 00:42:36,627 --> 00:42:38,335
- You ready?
- 430
- 00:42:39,835 --> 00:42:41,793
- I'm ready.
- 431
- 00:42:49,002 --> 00:42:50,793
- No!
- 432
- 00:42:53,835 --> 00:42:55,377
- See?
- 433
- 00:43:06,127 --> 00:43:08,835
- How mysterious.
- 434
- 00:43:09,002 --> 00:43:11,877
- Will you give me
- a reasonable explanation now,
- 435
- 00:43:12,043 --> 00:43:14,293
- or shall we wait?
- 436
- 00:43:16,168 --> 00:43:17,960
- I can't give you an explanation
- 437
- 00:43:18,127 --> 00:43:21,210
- and certainly not a reasonable one.
- 438
- 00:43:21,377 --> 00:43:25,752
- What exactly were the rumors
- about him?
- 439
- 00:43:25,918 --> 00:43:30,418
- That he was violent.
- - How can that be exciting?
- 440
- 00:43:34,043 --> 00:43:36,335
- I think the easiest way
- to understand it
- 441
- 00:43:36,502 --> 00:43:39,127
- is to refer to my rebellious nature.
- 442
- 00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:45,793
- This business of K's was something
- I was completely against.
- 443
- 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,877
- So, the fact
- that I was now contacting him
- 444
- 00:43:48,043 --> 00:43:50,836
- was a last, desperate attempt
- 445
- 00:43:51,003 --> 00:43:54,086
- to rehabilitate my sexuality.
- 446
- 00:43:55,044 --> 00:43:58,419
- The system was
- the overriding factor with K.
- 447
- 00:43:59,294 --> 00:44:01,419
- A system of violence?
- 448
- 00:44:02,211 --> 00:44:05,169
- Well, you were the one
- 449
- 00:44:05,336 --> 00:44:09,128
- who insisted on
- the Western Church, right?
- 450
- 00:44:09,294 --> 00:44:11,669
- And I... I seem to remember
- 451
- 00:44:11,836 --> 00:44:15,961
- that the systematic approach
- to the crucifixion
- 452
- 00:44:16,128 --> 00:44:19,711
- is of a violent
- and not to say sadistic nature.
- 453
- 00:44:19,878 --> 00:44:23,878
- Oh yes, the Passion of Christ
- is full of systematic violence.
- 454
- 00:44:24,044 --> 00:44:26,753
- The Via Dolorosa,
- the Nine Stations of the Cross,
- 455
- 00:44:26,919 --> 00:44:29,586
- and the 39 lashes.
- 456
- 00:44:53,711 --> 00:44:56,503
- You are beginning
- to irritate me.
- 457
- 00:45:26,794 --> 00:45:29,211
- Let me tell you the rules, then.
- 458
- 00:45:31,169 --> 00:45:33,628
- The first rule
- is that I don't fuck you,
- 459
- 00:45:34,586 --> 00:45:37,836
- and there isn't any discussions
- about that.
- 460
- 00:45:38,836 --> 00:45:41,086
- Then, what do you get out of it?
- 461
- 00:45:41,253 --> 00:45:46,086
- That's my business, and I don't
- mean to mention it again.
- 462
- 00:45:46,253 --> 00:45:49,919
- The second rule
- is that we have no safe word,
- 463
- 00:45:51,086 --> 00:45:53,628
- meaning that if you,
- uh, go inside with me,
- 464
- 00:45:53,794 --> 00:45:56,544
- there is nothing that you can say
- 465
- 00:45:56,711 --> 00:46:01,753
- that will make me stop
- any plan or procedure.
- 466
- 00:46:01,919 --> 00:46:06,919
- You must bring a brown,
- used leather riding crop.
- 467
- 00:46:07,086 --> 00:46:12,169
- And not one
- from a shop selling sex toys.
- 468
- 00:46:12,336 --> 00:46:13,961
- It's not a masquerade.
- 469
- 00:46:16,211 --> 00:46:18,628
- Third rule...
- 470
- 00:46:18,794 --> 00:46:24,711
- If I choose to let you in,
- you have to be sitting out here.
- 471
- 00:46:24,878 --> 00:46:29,419
- In other words, you...
- you won't know when.
- 472
- 00:46:29,586 --> 00:46:35,128
- Only that it would be some time
- between 2:00 and 6:00 at night.
- 473
- 00:46:35,294 --> 00:46:37,211
- I can't stay here that late.
- 474
- 00:46:37,378 --> 00:46:41,169
- My babysitter's not reliable,
- and I can't leave my child.
- 475
- 00:46:43,836 --> 00:46:45,461
- You don't even know my name!
- 476
- 00:46:45,628 --> 00:46:48,044
- I'm not interested in your name.
- 477
- 00:46:49,503 --> 00:46:51,919
- Here, your name is...
- 478
- 00:46:54,544 --> 00:46:56,336
- Fido.
- 479
- 00:47:10,086 --> 00:47:11,628
- Can I help you?
- 480
- 00:47:11,794 --> 00:47:14,378
- I'd like to buy a riding crop.
- 481
- 00:47:14,544 --> 00:47:17,878
- For what?
- - For my horse.
- 482
- 00:47:18,044 --> 00:47:20,461
- Yes, I understand that part.
- What kind of horse?
- 483
- 00:47:23,003 --> 00:47:25,878
- Well, it's not very big.
- 484
- 00:47:26,044 --> 00:47:28,503
- No, I just meant is the whip
- for dressage or for jumping?
- 485
- 00:47:28,669 --> 00:47:30,586
- Um...
- 486
- 00:47:30,794 --> 00:47:32,294
- I don't know.
- 487
- 00:47:33,419 --> 00:47:35,961
- This is a dressage whip.
- 488
- 00:47:36,128 --> 00:47:37,961
- Well, it's probably
- for jumping, then.
- 489
- 00:47:38,128 --> 00:47:40,169
- Okay. Like this?
- 490
- 00:47:44,253 --> 00:47:46,169
- Is it used?
- - No.
- 491
- 00:47:47,128 --> 00:47:50,086
- We do have used whips,
- but these are not that expensive.
- 492
- 00:47:51,753 --> 00:47:53,586
- I prefer a used one.
- 493
- 00:47:55,961 --> 00:47:57,503
- Okay.
- 494
- 00:48:04,669 --> 00:48:07,378
- Marcel's awake.
- 495
- 00:48:07,544 --> 00:48:09,919
- Do you want to say goodbye
- to your mom?
- 496
- 00:48:10,086 --> 00:48:12,461
- Goodbye.
- 497
- 00:49:11,504 --> 00:49:12,962
- Fido...
- 498
- 00:49:35,045 --> 00:49:37,004
- I'll take your coat.
- 499
- 00:49:57,420 --> 00:49:59,837
- I'd like you
- to have your hair up.
- 500
- 00:50:01,129 --> 00:50:03,837
- You can use this.
- 501
- 00:50:04,004 --> 00:50:07,795
- Just in case it becomes necessary
- for me to hit you in the face.
- 502
- 00:50:07,962 --> 00:50:10,462
- Should I take my clothes off?
- 503
- 00:50:11,962 --> 00:50:15,254
- I'll tell you
- what to do and when.
- 504
- 00:50:17,129 --> 00:50:18,754
- You may sit down.
- 505
- 00:50:29,129 --> 00:50:30,962
- Give me your hand.
- 506
- 00:50:38,337 --> 00:50:40,754
- I wanna see what this knot
- looks like on your wrist.
- 507
- 00:50:57,587 --> 00:50:58,879
- Okay.
- 508
- 00:51:05,795 --> 00:51:07,712
- You may get UP-
- 509
- 00:51:15,129 --> 00:51:17,879
- Now you may bend down.
- - How?
- 510
- 00:51:20,129 --> 00:51:22,045
- Approach the chair.
- 511
- 00:51:23,754 --> 00:51:25,462
- Now bend from the hips.
- 512
- 00:51:28,670 --> 00:51:31,587
- Look forward. Look forward.
- With your head up.
- 513
- 00:51:31,754 --> 00:51:34,629
- Head up.
- Keep looking forward.
- 514
- 00:51:41,337 --> 00:51:43,379
- Keep looking forward.
- 515
- 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,795
- You may stand up.
- 516
- 00:51:51,379 --> 00:51:53,379
- We have to use the couch.
- 517
- 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,754
- Come and sit.
- 518
- 00:52:00,212 --> 00:52:04,129
- Take it easy. Take it easy.
- 519
- 00:52:04,295 --> 00:52:06,004
- Bend over.
- 520
- 00:52:08,587 --> 00:52:10,795
- Lay your arms out straight.
- 521
- 00:52:21,295 --> 00:52:23,587
- Take it easy. Take it easy.
- 522
- 00:53:05,130 --> 00:53:08,046
- Bring your hands out straight.
- 523
- 00:53:08,255 --> 00:53:10,463
- Palms facing each other.
- 524
- 00:53:18,505 --> 00:53:20,088
- Take it easy.
- 525
- 00:53:57,088 --> 00:53:59,296
- Next time, don't wear knickers.
- 526
- 00:54:24,796 --> 00:54:28,005
- Your ass is not high enough.
- 527
- 00:54:28,171 --> 00:54:29,338
- I don't think
- we can do this today.
- 528
- 00:54:29,505 --> 00:54:31,130
- What?
- 529
- 00:54:37,963 --> 00:54:40,046
- I'd like to see you again
- on Thursday.
- 530
- 00:54:47,171 --> 00:54:49,505
- What's wrong?
- 531
- 00:54:49,671 --> 00:54:52,338
- I think we should see
- how it goes on Thursday.
- 532
- 00:55:05,255 --> 00:55:07,088
- Hi, I can't
- come to the phone right now.
- 533
- 00:55:07,255 --> 00:55:09,380
- Please, leave a message.
- 534
- 00:55:09,588 --> 00:55:12,421
- Yes, this is Marcel's mother again.
- 535
- 00:55:12,546 --> 00:55:16,963
- It's now 1:30.
- We had an agreement.
- 536
- 00:55:17,130 --> 00:55:21,671
- I hope you get this message
- and come as quickly as you can.
- 537
- 00:55:23,255 --> 00:55:26,088
- Ah, Marcel is sleeping.
- 538
- 00:55:26,255 --> 00:55:30,380
- Uh... I have to go now.
- 539
- 00:56:26,171 --> 00:56:28,088
- Raise yourself up.
- 540
- 00:56:31,005 --> 00:56:32,880
- Even further.
- 541
- 00:56:36,713 --> 00:56:38,255
- Better.
- 542
- 00:56:58,338 --> 00:57:02,338
- Also so much better.
- So much better.
- 543
- 00:57:08,755 --> 00:57:11,588
- I am now going to hit you 12 times,
- 544
- 00:57:11,755 --> 00:57:13,921
- no matter how much you scream
- 545
- 00:57:14,088 --> 00:57:16,255
- 'cause no one can hear you
- down here.
- 546
- 00:57:23,671 --> 00:57:27,506
- That's, uh, that's not how it goes.
- 547
- 00:57:29,089 --> 00:57:31,839
- Most people don't scream
- until I hit them.
- 548
- 00:58:33,631 --> 00:58:35,256
- That's it.
- 549
- 00:58:39,381 --> 00:58:43,006
- Thank you.
- - You're very welcome.
- 550
- 00:58:54,256 --> 00:58:56,339
- Hello? Are you there?
- 551
- 00:58:58,797 --> 00:59:02,256
- It's just all so very strange.
- 552
- 00:59:02,422 --> 00:59:06,172
- Yes. Very, very strange.
- 553
- 00:59:06,881 --> 00:59:12,172
- Because I was wetter the second time.
- There's no doubt about it.
- 554
- 00:59:12,339 --> 00:59:15,214
- I don't know where we get
- our sexuality from
- 555
- 00:59:15,381 --> 00:59:19,464
- or where tendencies
- of this kind come from.
- 556
- 00:59:20,506 --> 00:59:23,589
- Probably a perversion created
- in our childhood
- 557
- 00:59:23,756 --> 00:59:26,047
- that never manifested itself before.
- 558
- 00:59:26,214 --> 00:59:30,631
- Well, oddly enough,
- Freud says the opposite.
- 559
- 00:59:30,797 --> 00:59:34,339
- He talks about the polymorphic
- perversion of a child,
- 560
- 00:59:34,506 --> 00:59:39,631
- meaning that in a child,
- all kinds of perversions exist.
- 561
- 00:59:39,797 --> 00:59:42,964
- And then we use
- the childhood to diminish
- 562
- 00:59:43,131 --> 00:59:45,714
- or remove some Of them.
- 563
- 00:59:45,881 --> 00:59:49,172
- Basically, a child
- is sexually polymorphic,
- 564
- 00:59:49,339 --> 00:59:52,964
- and everything is sexuality
- in an infant.
- 565
- 00:59:53,131 --> 00:59:56,256
- And yet it was deeply bizarre
- 566
- 00:59:56,422 --> 01:00:00,297
- to lie there and especially
- to want to lie there.
- 567
- 01:00:04,547 --> 01:00:07,547
- I felt invincible.
- 568
- 01:00:07,714 --> 01:00:10,381
- But mostly,
- I felt like a potted plant.
- 569
- 01:00:12,006 --> 01:00:13,589
- Potted plant?
- 570
- 01:00:13,756 --> 01:00:17,797
- Yes, because he was constantly
- checking my cunt juice.
- 571
- 01:00:17,964 --> 01:00:22,922
- The way old ladies check their potted
- plant to see if they need watering.
- 572
- 01:00:25,797 --> 01:00:29,797
- It is an interesting point
- that you actually lubricated
- 573
- 01:00:29,964 --> 01:00:34,047
- in expectation for a pain
- that you hadn't experienced.
- 574
- 01:00:36,006 --> 01:00:38,922
- Your body prepared itself
- for an intercourse
- 575
- 01:00:39,089 --> 01:00:41,506
- that you knew wouldn't happen.
- 576
- 01:00:43,381 --> 01:00:47,089
- I can only describe
- the mood as sexual.
- 577
- 01:00:49,089 --> 01:00:51,631
- Despite K's immature appearance,
- 578
- 01:00:51,797 --> 01:00:55,964
- his methods were
- surprisingly refined.
- 579
- 01:00:56,131 --> 01:01:00,631
- As I twisted and turned
- while he was whipping me,
- 580
- 01:01:00,797 --> 01:01:04,547
- I could feel
- how clever his knots were.
- 581
- 01:01:04,714 --> 01:01:08,381
- If I fought them,
- they would get tighter,
- 582
- 01:01:08,547 --> 01:01:12,464
- and as I relaxed,
- it seemed they did, too.
- 583
- 01:01:12,714 --> 01:01:15,214
- Hmm.
- 584
- 01:01:15,506 --> 01:01:19,131
- Like a cat playing with a mouse.
- 585
- 01:01:20,589 --> 01:01:22,881
- Fooling it to believe
- it has a chance of escape
- 586
- 01:01:23,047 --> 01:01:26,464
- and then attacking it again.
- 587
- 01:01:28,506 --> 01:01:34,089
- I don't know
- what kind of knot K used,
- 588
- 01:01:34,256 --> 01:01:39,506
- but I know of a knot that tightens
- when force is exerted
- 589
- 01:01:39,672 --> 01:01:42,422
- and vice versa.
- It's called a Prusik knot.
- 590
- 01:01:42,589 --> 01:01:45,464
- It's after a man called Prusik.
- 591
- 01:01:45,631 --> 01:01:47,464
- He was a mountain climber,
- 592
- 01:01:47,631 --> 01:01:49,297
- and he and a friend
- were out climbing
- 593
- 01:01:49,464 --> 01:01:53,797
- and they had an accident,
- and his friend died.
- 594
- 01:01:53,964 --> 01:01:57,215
- And he ended up hanging
- at the end of a rope
- 595
- 01:01:57,382 --> 01:02:00,882
- with no possibility
- of getting up.
- 596
- 01:02:01,048 --> 01:02:03,673
- You know, you can't climb
- up a mountain climber rope.
- 597
- 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,632
- It's too thin.
- 598
- 01:02:05,798 --> 01:02:09,173
- But he was an intelligent man,
- and with his back to the wall,
- 599
- 01:02:09,340 --> 01:02:11,173
- he was a genius.
- 600
- 01:02:12,923 --> 01:02:16,132
- And he took the shoelaces
- out of his boots
- 601
- 01:02:16,298 --> 01:02:20,423
- and made two loops
- and affixed them to the rope.
- 602
- 01:02:20,590 --> 01:02:22,923
- And he could move these up
- 603
- 01:02:23,090 --> 01:02:24,340
- when they weren't under tension.
- 604
- 01:02:24,507 --> 01:02:26,798
- And then he could step into them
- 605
- 01:02:26,965 --> 01:02:31,048
- and climb the rope
- and save himself.
- 606
- 01:02:31,215 --> 01:02:33,340
- Prusik.
- 607
- 01:02:35,965 --> 01:02:39,673
- I think this was
- one of your weakest digressions.
- 608
- 01:02:43,673 --> 01:02:48,215
- May I continue?
- - Be my guest.
- 609
- 01:02:52,882 --> 01:02:56,965
- Tomorrow bring 15 small coins,
- all the same.
- 610
- 01:02:59,007 --> 01:03:00,965
- No more, no less.
- 611
- 01:05:01,798 --> 01:05:05,132
- I sometimes give a Christmas present.
- 612
- 01:05:05,882 --> 01:05:09,548
- But uh, you have
- to do the work yourself.
- 613
- 01:05:09,715 --> 01:05:12,423
- I'm going to show you how to do it.
- 614
- 01:05:27,340 --> 01:05:29,340
- This is called a blood knot.
- 615
- 01:05:29,507 --> 01:05:33,840
- You have to make nine ropes
- with three blood knots on each.
- 616
- 01:05:34,007 --> 01:05:35,840
- Let me see you do it.
- 617
- 01:05:36,007 --> 01:05:40,715
- You decide whether
- to make four, five, or six turns
- 618
- 01:05:40,882 --> 01:05:42,882
- on the various knots.
- 619
- 01:05:54,090 --> 01:05:55,798
- Let me see.
- 620
- 01:06:03,090 --> 01:06:05,215
- That's fine.
- 621
- 01:06:05,382 --> 01:06:08,507
- If you... if you start with one knot
- 622
- 01:06:08,673 --> 01:06:11,423
- at the top of the rope,
- 623
- 01:06:11,590 --> 01:06:16,340
- and then you have to put two
- more knots at a distance of...
- 624
- 01:06:16,507 --> 01:06:20,673
- Well, between 10 and 20
- centimeters to be exact,
- 625
- 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,423
- but the most important thing
- with blood knots
- 626
- 01:06:22,590 --> 01:06:25,673
- on the nine ropes is
- that they are placed differently
- 627
- 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,215
- and that they are staggered.
- 628
- 01:06:34,133 --> 01:06:36,966
- The cat-o-nine-tails
- is often called
- 629
- 01:06:37,133 --> 01:06:40,008
- the 'Captain's Daughter'
- aboard ships.
- 630
- 01:06:43,883 --> 01:06:46,133
- The blood knot is important
- 631
- 01:06:46,299 --> 01:06:49,049
- because those are the ones
- that break the skin and not,
- 632
- 01:06:49,674 --> 01:06:55,424
- as erroneously thought,
- the end of the rope.
- 633
- 01:06:55,591 --> 01:07:01,424
- A gallows knot is also a kind of
- a blood knot with many turns.
- 634
- 01:07:01,591 --> 01:07:06,091
- The American military standard
- demanded five to 15 turns,
- 635
- 01:07:06,258 --> 01:07:09,299
- as it was the turns placed behind
- the left ear of the delinquent
- 636
- 01:07:09,466 --> 01:07:12,674
- that would break the neck
- of the condemned as he fell.
- 637
- 01:07:16,216 --> 01:07:18,008
- I'll take it from here.
- 638
- 01:10:08,549 --> 01:10:10,216
- Joe?
- 639
- 01:10:12,091 --> 01:10:13,633
- Love?
- 640
- 01:10:23,674 --> 01:10:25,049
- Marcel?
- 641
- 01:10:28,924 --> 01:10:30,383
- Marcel.
- 642
- 01:11:10,175 --> 01:11:13,217
- Are you fond of me still?
- - Yes.
- 643
- 01:11:13,384 --> 01:11:16,342
- More fond of me than the others?
- 644
- 01:11:18,300 --> 01:11:21,175
- Yes'?
- - Yes.
- 645
- 01:11:21,342 --> 01:11:25,050
- You're not thinking of leaving
- again tonight, are you?
- 646
- 01:11:25,217 --> 01:11:26,425
- No.
- - No?
- 647
- 01:11:26,592 --> 01:11:29,050
- No, no. Not at all.
- - You sure?
- 648
- 01:11:30,634 --> 01:11:31,759
- Yeah.
- 649
- 01:11:31,925 --> 01:11:34,675
- Are you lying to me, Joe?
- 650
- 01:11:34,842 --> 01:11:36,717
- No.
- - Be honest.
- 651
- 01:11:36,884 --> 01:11:41,384
- It's all right.
- Just fucking say it.
- 652
- 01:11:41,550 --> 01:11:43,884
- No, I... I just want to be here.
- 653
- 01:11:44,050 --> 01:11:45,884
- Why?
- 654
- 01:11:49,675 --> 01:11:51,550
- I don't know.
- 655
- 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,884
- If you leave tonight,
- 656
- 01:12:01,050 --> 01:12:04,592
- you'll never see me or Marcel
- ever again in your life.
- 657
- 01:12:08,259 --> 01:12:10,300
- You understand?
- 658
- 01:13:26,134 --> 01:13:27,925
- ls this goodbye?
- 659
- 01:13:31,175 --> 01:13:34,175
- ls that what you're saying?
- 660
- 01:13:34,342 --> 01:13:35,634
- Marcel, get up.
- 661
- 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,925
- Stop it.
- - ls that what you want?
- 662
- 01:13:39,467 --> 01:13:43,092
- Yeah, so you could see him.
- Look at him, Joe.
- 663
- 01:13:48,592 --> 01:13:51,592
- Let's face it,
- Joe, you're not a mother.
- 664
- 01:13:53,592 --> 01:13:55,175
- Let's wake him up.
- 665
- 01:13:55,342 --> 01:13:59,717
- Marcel, baby boy.
- Say bye, Mom.
- 666
- 01:14:00,884 --> 01:14:03,509
- Please, put him...
- - ls this what you want?
- 667
- 01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:09,009
- You see?
- 668
- 01:14:09,175 --> 01:14:12,217
- You see, he wants you.
- 669
- 01:14:12,384 --> 01:14:14,217
- Come.
- 670
- 01:14:15,175 --> 01:14:18,259
- It's Christmas.
- It's fucking Christmas.
- 671
- 01:14:41,134 --> 01:14:42,384
- What is this?
- 672
- 01:14:44,425 --> 01:14:47,675
- Today it's Madame who must wait.
- 673
- 01:14:55,925 --> 01:14:57,884
- Madame, I'm very sorry,
- 674
- 01:14:58,050 --> 01:15:01,009
- but I have to have a few words
- with Fido first.
- 675
- 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,425
- Your behavior is really
- upsetting me today.
- 676
- 01:15:25,175 --> 01:15:28,009
- I really ought to send you home.
- 677
- 01:15:49,926 --> 01:15:51,968
- Happy Christmas, Fido.
- 678
- 01:16:54,260 --> 01:16:56,885
- I want your cock.
- - What did you say?
- 679
- 01:16:58,385 --> 01:16:59,926
- I want your cock.
- 680
- 01:17:00,093 --> 01:17:03,676
- No, you don't.
- No, you don't.
- 681
- 01:17:07,010 --> 01:17:09,176
- What's the matter with you today?
- 682
- 01:17:30,885 --> 01:17:36,426
- On account of the holidays
- and your behavior today,
- 683
- 01:17:36,593 --> 01:17:38,885
- I'm going to give you
- the original Roman maximum
- 684
- 01:17:39,051 --> 01:17:42,051
- of 40 lashes.
- Are you ready, Fido?
- 685
- 01:17:44,260 --> 01:17:45,801
- I'm ready.
- 686
- 01:17:51,135 --> 01:17:52,885
- One.
- 687
- 01:17:55,176 --> 01:17:56,176
- Two.
- 688
- 01:17:58,468 --> 01:17:59,510
- Three.
- 689
- 01:18:02,010 --> 01:18:03,426
- Four.
- 690
- 01:18:04,718 --> 01:18:05,926
- Five.
- 691
- 01:18:08,218 --> 01:18:09,635
- Six.
- 692
- 01:18:22,968 --> 01:18:25,343
- I'd seen through K's
- knot technique,
- 693
- 01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:28,010
- so I was able to loosen
- my position a bit
- 694
- 01:18:28,176 --> 01:18:30,843
- to move my pelvis
- and thereby stimulate
- 695
- 01:18:31,010 --> 01:18:33,718
- my clitoris against the cover
- of the book.
- 696
- 01:18:59,093 --> 01:19:00,551
- Forty.
- 697
- 01:19:11,260 --> 01:19:16,260
- And when you came home,
- Jerome and the child were gone?
- 698
- 01:19:23,093 --> 01:19:26,135
- I haven't seen Marcel since.
- 699
- 01:19:29,676 --> 01:19:34,260
- This sentimentality...
- I hate it.
- 700
- 01:19:37,510 --> 01:19:40,926
- Why?
- - Because it's a lie.
- 701
- 01:19:45,218 --> 01:19:47,051
- Are you sure?
- 702
- 01:19:54,051 --> 01:19:56,051
- Jerome understood
- that he couldn't prioritize
- 703
- 01:19:56,218 --> 01:20:00,926
- his life according to a child either,
- 704
- 01:20:01,093 --> 01:20:04,052
- so he put him in a foster home.
- 705
- 01:20:06,969 --> 01:20:09,761
- My only contact to the boy
- is the thousand pounds
- 706
- 01:20:09,969 --> 01:20:12,886
- I put in his account every month.
- 707
- 01:20:13,052 --> 01:20:14,511
- Anonymously.
- 708
- 01:20:17,677 --> 01:20:19,886
- As a penance.
- 709
- 01:20:29,802 --> 01:20:31,011
- Every time I leave,
- 710
- 01:20:31,177 --> 01:20:35,136
- I have this feeling that
- when I return, you'll be gone.
- 711
- 01:20:39,052 --> 01:20:40,927
- And all I can hear
- is the cat flap,
- 712
- 01:20:41,094 --> 01:20:44,552
- swinging back and forth.
- 713
- 01:20:47,302 --> 01:20:50,719
- Thank you. I didn't know
- you had a cat flap.
- 714
- 01:20:51,552 --> 01:20:52,761
- I used to have a cat,
- 715
- 01:20:52,927 --> 01:20:56,261
- so I have a cat flap
- in the door to the stairwell.
- 716
- 01:20:56,427 --> 01:20:58,219
- But how did it get outside?
- 717
- 01:21:01,261 --> 01:21:05,552
- I never thought of that.
- I suppose through the basement.
- 718
- 01:21:05,719 --> 01:21:07,427
- The thing is...
- 719
- 01:21:07,594 --> 01:21:10,427
- Every time someone opens
- the door to the street,
- 720
- 01:21:10,594 --> 01:21:13,677
- the cat flap squeaks.
- 721
- 01:21:13,844 --> 01:21:15,677
- There's a lot of drafts
- in the house.
- 722
- 01:21:17,219 --> 01:21:19,969
- It hasn't squeaked yet.
- 723
- 01:21:20,969 --> 01:21:24,302
- No, there's not many people
- coming and going.
- 724
- 01:21:24,469 --> 01:21:26,427
- That's a bit creepy.
- 725
- 01:21:26,594 --> 01:21:29,802
- No, I like it.
- 726
- 01:21:29,969 --> 01:21:33,844
- It's... it's peaceful.
- 727
- 01:21:38,511 --> 01:21:43,844
- After all this sadness, may I ask
- what happened to the silent duck?
- 728
- 01:21:44,886 --> 01:21:48,802
- Oh, shit. The silent duck.
- 729
- 01:21:48,969 --> 01:21:51,719
- I'd forgotten all about it.
- 730
- 01:21:52,677 --> 01:21:55,427
- One night K had been
- in what was for him
- 731
- 01:21:55,594 --> 01:21:57,511
- an unusually good mood.
- 732
- 01:21:57,677 --> 01:22:00,177
- I don't know what caused it,
- but he didn't hit hard,
- 733
- 01:22:00,344 --> 01:22:02,469
- and he joked that
- he would introduce me
- 734
- 01:22:02,636 --> 01:22:05,469
- to the concept
- of the silent duck.
- 735
- 01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:34,677
- One hardly dare
- imagine the quacking duck.
- 736
- 01:22:47,969 --> 01:22:50,886
- Well, deep down,
- 737
- 01:22:51,052 --> 01:22:54,177
- little K seems
- to have been a jolly man
- 738
- 01:22:54,386 --> 01:22:55,552
- with versatile talents.
- 739
- 01:22:55,719 --> 01:22:59,511
- But he got that bit
- about Roman punishment
- 740
- 01:22:59,677 --> 01:23:02,094
- and the 40 lashes wrong.
- 741
- 01:23:02,261 --> 01:23:03,886
- Because it's true that
- the highest punishment
- 742
- 01:23:04,052 --> 01:23:09,052
- was 40 lashes, but it had to be
- delivered in series of three.
- 743
- 01:23:09,219 --> 01:23:11,094
- That's why Jesus
- only got 39 lashes
- 744
- 01:23:11,261 --> 01:23:16,886
- because three goes
- into 39 but not into 40.
- 745
- 01:23:19,761 --> 01:23:22,969
- Well, I don't know about K
- being jolly.
- 746
- 01:23:23,136 --> 01:23:25,594
- His position as a sadist
- 747
- 01:23:25,761 --> 01:23:28,886
- wasn't perhaps as enviable
- as it might first appear.
- 748
- 01:23:29,052 --> 01:23:34,094
- Superficially, the sadist
- acts as the decider.
- 749
- 01:23:34,927 --> 01:23:37,844
- But I once had a conversation
- with a prostitute,
- 750
- 01:23:37,969 --> 01:23:40,469
- who had tried all the variations
- in her field.
- 751
- 01:23:40,636 --> 01:23:42,261
- She wasn't surprised by anything.
- 752
- 01:23:42,427 --> 01:23:47,302
- And she admitted to have only
- masochists.
- 753
- 01:23:48,219 --> 01:23:49,344
- Masochists, for her,
- 754
- 01:23:49,511 --> 01:23:52,469
- were the most demanding
- and the most ungrateful.
- 755
- 01:23:53,427 --> 01:23:55,844
- First, she were
- to deduce their desire
- 756
- 01:23:56,011 --> 01:23:57,719
- by reading their thoughts,
- 757
- 01:23:57,886 --> 01:24:01,844
- then perform without
- any alteration from the norm,
- 758
- 01:24:02,011 --> 01:24:05,177
- and after which,
- unlike other clients
- 759
- 01:24:05,344 --> 01:24:08,677
- and the most honorable sadists,
- for example,
- 760
- 01:24:08,844 --> 01:24:10,761
- you never received any thanks,
- 761
- 01:24:11,677 --> 01:24:14,469
- let alone gifts or flowers.
- 762
- 01:24:19,052 --> 01:24:21,886
- I never went
- in that direction again,
- 763
- 01:24:22,052 --> 01:24:24,511
- neither back to K or masochism.
- 764
- 01:24:34,802 --> 01:24:37,512
- But I took the orgasm with me.
- 765
- 01:24:38,928 --> 01:24:43,470
- You yet have to show me one
- single example of maliciousness.
- 766
- 01:24:44,262 --> 01:24:46,678
- But that's all I'm doing!
- 767
- 01:24:46,845 --> 01:24:49,637
- It's as if you want
- to misunderstand me.
- 768
- 01:24:49,803 --> 01:24:53,428
- You keep inventing
- complicated and false excuses
- 769
- 01:24:53,595 --> 01:24:56,053
- for my despicable
- and selfish actions.
- 770
- 01:24:58,303 --> 01:25:00,053
- During the time
- when our relationship
- 771
- 01:25:00,220 --> 01:25:03,053
- was going downhill,
- Jerome really tried his best.
- 772
- 01:25:06,262 --> 01:25:07,845
- I bought you something.
- 773
- 01:25:08,012 --> 01:25:09,762
- You bought me something?
- - I'm sure you'll love it.
- 774
- 01:25:11,387 --> 01:25:14,220
- Wow, it's a ring.
- - Yeah.
- 775
- 01:25:15,262 --> 01:25:16,303
- It's beautiful.
- 776
- 01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:19,595
- It was impossible
- for me to work out Jerome's income.
- 777
- 01:25:19,762 --> 01:25:23,637
- Sometimes he had lots of money
- and other times none,
- 778
- 01:25:23,803 --> 01:25:25,053
- which I later thought perhaps
- 779
- 01:25:25,220 --> 01:25:28,512
- meant that his work
- was not entirely above board.
- 780
- 01:25:28,678 --> 01:25:31,762
- But this time
- he'd really gone all out.
- 781
- 01:25:31,928 --> 01:25:36,470
- That must've been so expensive.
- - Well, it wasn't cheap.
- 782
- 01:25:36,637 --> 01:25:38,720
- Best craftsmanship.
- - Hmm.
- 783
- 01:25:38,887 --> 01:25:41,053
- I'll guarantee you that.
- 784
- 01:25:41,220 --> 01:25:43,678
- Let's play a game, then.
- 785
- 01:25:43,845 --> 01:25:46,095
- A game?
- - Mm-hmm. Get up.
- 786
- 01:25:46,262 --> 01:25:47,345
- Okay.
- 787
- 01:25:47,512 --> 01:25:49,720
- It's called 'Cinderella'.
- - I don't know it.
- 788
- 01:25:49,887 --> 01:25:51,762
- You will.
- - Okay.
- 789
- 01:25:51,928 --> 01:25:53,803
- Right.
- - No, you don't touch it.
- 790
- 01:25:53,970 --> 01:25:55,512
- Okay.
- - You just look at it.
- 791
- 01:25:57,970 --> 01:25:59,762
- Okay? Are you ready?
- 792
- 01:26:01,303 --> 01:26:02,928
- Yes.
- - Steady.
- 793
- 01:26:03,095 --> 01:26:05,387
- Steady.
- 794
- 01:26:05,553 --> 01:26:07,303
- Go.
- - Fuck! Joe!
- 795
- 01:26:07,470 --> 01:26:08,678
- Come on, Cinderella.
- 796
- 01:26:08,845 --> 01:26:11,303
- Oh, fuck.
- - Come on, come on.
- 797
- 01:26:11,470 --> 01:26:14,762
- Joe! For fuck's sake.
- 798
- 01:26:14,928 --> 01:26:17,095
- Move!
- - Cinderella, Cinderella!
- 799
- 01:26:17,262 --> 01:26:20,345
- Fuck! Are you mad, Joe?
- 800
- 01:26:21,220 --> 01:26:24,012
- Are you fucking mad?
- Fuck!Fuck.
- 801
- 01:26:24,178 --> 01:26:27,137
- £7,000, Joe!
- 802
- 01:26:28,887 --> 01:26:30,303
- Did he find it?
- 803
- 01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:35,345
- Oh yes, and returned it
- and got all his money back.
- 804
- 01:26:35,512 --> 01:26:40,095
- So can you call this game
- anything other than malicious?
- 805
- 01:26:44,970 --> 01:26:47,637
- Let me chew on that for a while.
- 806
- 01:26:51,595 --> 01:26:54,678
- So it wasn't the diamond that
- you're wearing around your neck?
- 807
- 01:26:54,845 --> 01:26:58,137
- No. But that was a gift, too.
- 808
- 01:26:58,303 --> 01:27:00,220
- But I have to be honest and say
- 809
- 01:27:00,387 --> 01:27:03,178
- I can't remember the person
- who gave it to me.
- 810
- 01:27:04,137 --> 01:27:07,095
- I've always been in...
- in the theoretical way, of course,
- 811
- 01:27:07,262 --> 01:27:09,262
- interested in diamonds
- and their cuts.
- 812
- 01:27:09,428 --> 01:27:12,303
- The word 'brilliant'
- refers to the cut.
- 813
- 01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:15,220
- Diamond is the stone.
- 814
- 01:27:17,095 --> 01:27:19,178
- If we use the word 'divine'
- in connection
- 815
- 01:27:19,345 --> 01:27:21,428
- with the Golden Section
- and Fibonacci,
- 816
- 01:27:21,595 --> 01:27:23,720
- the brilliant cut is nothing less.
- 817
- 01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:27,637
- It's a frighteningly refined cut.
- 818
- 01:27:27,803 --> 01:27:30,387
- Fifty-seven facets.
- 819
- 01:27:30,553 --> 01:27:33,720
- The theory is that the light
- enters through the top plane,
- 820
- 01:27:33,887 --> 01:27:38,137
- which is called the table
- or in some languages the mirror,
- 821
- 01:27:38,303 --> 01:27:42,428
- and then inside the diamond
- is refracted in all the facets
- 822
- 01:27:42,595 --> 01:27:44,428
- and thrown out the same way,
- 823
- 01:27:44,595 --> 01:27:49,595
- creating a absolutely unique
- light effect.
- 824
- 01:27:51,637 --> 01:27:55,428
- So, it's called a mirror.
- I didn't know that.
- 825
- 01:27:56,637 --> 01:27:58,428
- You have a mirror, too.
- 826
- 01:28:00,887 --> 01:28:02,595
- Yeah.
- 827
- 01:28:02,762 --> 01:28:05,178
- It's like a thought, isn't it?
- 828
- 01:28:34,803 --> 01:28:36,053
- Some years later,
- 829
- 01:28:36,220 --> 01:28:39,428
- the bodily abuse
- began to have an effect.
- 830
- 01:28:39,678 --> 01:28:42,928
- First, rare bleedings
- from my clitoris,
- 831
- 01:28:43,095 --> 01:28:46,470
- but then they became
- more and more frequent.
- 832
- 01:28:56,178 --> 01:28:57,762
- Come in.
- 833
- 01:29:01,387 --> 01:29:05,095
- But I really need my salary.
- 834
- 01:29:05,262 --> 01:29:06,846
- I know.
- 835
- 01:29:08,221 --> 01:29:10,721
- And I'd like to help you.
- 836
- 01:29:11,596 --> 01:29:14,846
- Have you heard any
- of the rumors about yourself?
- 837
- 01:29:18,429 --> 01:29:21,096
- They say you see men
- every evening
- 838
- 01:29:24,221 --> 01:29:26,971
- and spend all night with them.
- 839
- 01:29:27,138 --> 01:29:30,388
- They say you can't be trusted,
- all of them.
- 840
- 01:29:32,804 --> 01:29:35,013
- Why do they say that?
- 841
- 01:29:36,929 --> 01:29:39,554
- I suppose they're afraid
- that I...
- 842
- 01:29:39,721 --> 01:29:43,221
- I can't keep away
- from their men.
- 843
- 01:29:45,346 --> 01:29:48,221
- Right. And can you?
- 844
- 01:29:49,429 --> 01:29:50,804
- No.
- 845
- 01:29:53,929 --> 01:29:56,429
- I've spoken with a psychologist.
- 846
- 01:29:57,763 --> 01:29:59,638
- He says you're addicted,
- 847
- 01:29:59,804 --> 01:30:02,388
- but that it's not the kind of
- addiction that can't be treated.
- 848
- 01:30:03,096 --> 01:30:06,096
- They have some groups.
- 849
- 01:30:06,263 --> 01:30:08,763
- I know about these kinds
- of groups.
- 850
- 01:30:08,929 --> 01:30:11,971
- I don't have anything
- to say to a psychologist.
- 851
- 01:30:12,138 --> 01:30:15,138
- I'm not suggesting therapy.
- I'm demanding it.
- 852
- 01:30:16,596 --> 01:30:18,721
- Even if you leave us,
- it'll be the same at your next job
- 853
- 01:30:18,888 --> 01:30:21,346
- and the one after that.
- 854
- 01:30:26,304 --> 01:30:28,763
- Why didn't you want to speak
- with a psychologist?
- 855
- 01:30:30,304 --> 01:30:33,554
- It's an old story.
- I just don't like them.
- 856
- 01:30:36,888 --> 01:30:38,763
- Well, if you insist
- that I try to understand,
- 857
- 01:30:38,929 --> 01:30:41,054
- then you have
- to tell me that story as well.
- 858
- 01:30:41,221 --> 01:30:43,513
- The old story.
- 859
- 01:30:44,679 --> 01:30:47,596
- Okay. Okay.
- 860
- 01:30:47,763 --> 01:30:50,179
- It's not that old after all.
- 861
- 01:30:50,929 --> 01:30:55,429
- It was about a year after
- I'd lost Marcel and Jerome.
- 862
- 01:31:02,554 --> 01:31:03,929
- Okay.
- 863
- 01:31:05,263 --> 01:31:08,013
- I'd been careless
- with my birth control pills before,
- 864
- 01:31:08,179 --> 01:31:10,721
- and now I just didn't use them.
- 865
- 01:31:10,929 --> 01:31:12,888
- Didn't the
- whole experience with Marcel
- 866
- 01:31:13,054 --> 01:31:15,971
- convince you that there was no
- room for children in your life?
- 867
- 01:31:16,179 --> 01:31:17,804
- That's right.
- 868
- 01:31:22,554 --> 01:31:24,763
- I know it sounds
- incomprehensible,
- 869
- 01:31:24,929 --> 01:31:27,429
- but actually, it was because
- of my crippling fear
- 870
- 01:31:27,596 --> 01:31:30,721
- of becoming pregnant
- that I didn't take the pills.
- 871
- 01:31:30,888 --> 01:31:32,929
- It's probably impossible
- to understand.
- 872
- 01:31:33,096 --> 01:31:36,679
- No, it makes sense to me.
- 873
- 01:31:36,846 --> 01:31:38,971
- You were so afraid
- of getting pregnant
- 874
- 01:31:39,138 --> 01:31:42,554
- that you repressed
- the possibility of it.
- 875
- 01:31:42,721 --> 01:31:45,971
- You couldn't even handle
- seeing the box of pills.
- 876
- 01:31:51,554 --> 01:31:53,013
- Okay.
- 877
- 01:31:58,429 --> 01:32:00,304
- Would you turn it down?
- 878
- 01:32:02,971 --> 01:32:05,596
- If you look at the screen
- you can see your child,
- 879
- 01:32:05,763 --> 01:32:07,513
- but I can't tell you
- the gender yet.
- 880
- 01:32:07,679 --> 01:32:10,263
- I don't give a shit
- about the gender.
- 881
- 01:32:10,429 --> 01:32:11,846
- I want it removed.
- 882
- 01:32:14,888 --> 01:32:18,304
- Okay. Uh, you're in week eleven.
- 883
- 01:32:18,471 --> 01:32:23,013
- So legally, there are
- no barriers for an abortion.
- 884
- 01:32:23,179 --> 01:32:26,054
- Yes, I know that.
- Just remove it.
- 885
- 01:32:26,221 --> 01:32:30,554
- Well, we have some procedures
- to follow.
- 886
- 01:32:30,721 --> 01:32:32,346
- There's nothing more
- to talk about.
- 887
- 01:32:32,513 --> 01:32:34,554
- I can have it removed.
- I want it removed.
- 888
- 01:32:34,721 --> 01:32:37,721
- It is a very big decision,
- best not made in haste.
- 889
- 01:32:37,888 --> 01:32:40,638
- Didn't you understand
- what I just said?
- 890
- 01:32:40,804 --> 01:32:43,179
- Okay, there's
- an informative consultation
- 891
- 01:32:43,346 --> 01:32:46,721
- with our psychologist before
- you can have the procedure.
- 892
- 01:32:55,679 --> 01:32:58,096
- You didn't really fill out the form.
- 893
- 01:32:58,263 --> 01:33:00,179
- Maybe you didn't have time,
- 894
- 01:33:00,346 --> 01:33:05,388
- uh, so I will need
- to ask a few more questions.
- 895
- 01:33:05,554 --> 01:33:09,096
- What's the most important thing
- in your life right now?
- 896
- 01:33:09,263 --> 01:33:13,346
- It could be many things,
- your family, your friends, your...
- 897
- 01:33:13,513 --> 01:33:15,638
- The most important thing
- for me right now
- 898
- 01:33:15,804 --> 01:33:17,929
- is to get an abortion.
- 899
- 01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:22,763
- Yes. Well, that's what
- we're going to resolve together.
- 900
- 01:33:25,138 --> 01:33:27,596
- I need some information.
- 901
- 01:33:30,221 --> 01:33:32,054
- Do you love the father?
- 902
- 01:33:32,221 --> 01:33:35,513
- That's none of your business.
- 903
- 01:33:35,679 --> 01:33:40,930
- Well, it is my business
- because I'm here to form
- 904
- 01:33:41,097 --> 01:33:43,847
- an impression
- of your circumstances.
- 905
- 01:33:44,014 --> 01:33:45,805
- That's my job.
- 906
- 01:33:45,972 --> 01:33:47,764
- Okay, so what would you
- most like me
- 907
- 01:33:47,930 --> 01:33:51,430
- to answer about the father in order
- to get the fucking abortion?
- 908
- 01:33:51,597 --> 01:33:54,347
- That I love him,
- or that I don't love him?
- 909
- 01:33:54,514 --> 01:33:59,055
- Or that I... I don't know him
- because I fuck tons of men?
- 910
- 01:34:04,347 --> 01:34:07,305
- I, uh, see that
- you were emotional
- 911
- 01:34:07,472 --> 01:34:09,680
- during the doctor's examination.
- 912
- 01:34:09,847 --> 01:34:11,972
- I think you're emotional.
- 913
- 01:34:12,139 --> 01:34:16,180
- Please, listen. This is what we call
- an informative consultation.
- 914
- 01:34:16,347 --> 01:34:18,389
- What is it I need
- to be informed of?
- 915
- 01:34:18,555 --> 01:34:20,597
- That you can't
- stuff the kid back inside?
- 916
- 01:34:20,764 --> 01:34:23,264
- I already know that.
- 917
- 01:34:24,514 --> 01:34:26,639
- I just need to be certain
- 918
- 01:34:26,805 --> 01:34:29,014
- that you're completely sure
- about your choice,
- 919
- 01:34:29,180 --> 01:34:32,347
- and my professional opinion
- based on your behavior
- 920
- 01:34:32,514 --> 01:34:33,764
- is that clearly you're not.
- 921
- 01:34:33,930 --> 01:34:36,097
- I've never been more sure
- in my life.
- 922
- 01:34:36,264 --> 01:34:38,847
- I want that fetus out right now.
- 923
- 01:34:39,014 --> 01:34:42,222
- And as a professional, I cannot
- defend recommending an abortion
- 924
- 01:34:42,389 --> 01:34:43,472
- based on this conversation.
- 925
- 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:47,680
- I've already had a kid!
- I know what I want!
- 926
- 01:34:47,847 --> 01:34:49,222
- Fuck you.
- 927
- 01:34:55,930 --> 01:34:58,805
- There were,
- of course, many ways to do it.
- 928
- 01:34:58,972 --> 01:35:01,597
- But I had chosen to follow
- the common medical procedure
- 929
- 01:35:01,764 --> 01:35:04,555
- I had learnt
- while studying medicine,
- 930
- 01:35:04,722 --> 01:35:06,847
- as it was of great importance
- for me
- 931
- 01:35:07,014 --> 01:35:10,347
- to get the fetus out straight away
- rather than wait for it
- 932
- 01:35:10,514 --> 01:35:13,430
- to be expelled
- a couple of days later.
- 933
- 01:36:36,555 --> 01:36:39,430
- Clearly, the most painful part
- 934
- 01:36:39,597 --> 01:36:42,472
- would be the gradual opening
- of the cervix,
- 935
- 01:36:42,639 --> 01:36:46,889
- which otherwise was always done
- under anesthesia.
- 936
- 01:38:50,973 --> 01:38:53,431
- wasps, sobs)
- 937
- 01:39:12,181 --> 01:39:14,348
- Say something, Pierrot.
- 938
- 01:39:16,306 --> 01:39:17,390
- What do you mean?
- 939
- 01:39:17,556 --> 01:39:20,348
- Well, you always have
- so many clever things to say.
- 940
- 01:39:26,181 --> 01:39:29,598
- Well, I... I feel bad for you
- 941
- 01:39:29,765 --> 01:39:31,640
- that you had to cause yourself
- so much pain.
- 942
- 01:39:38,056 --> 01:39:42,473
- But the... the abortion
- is completely understandable.
- 943
- 01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:43,765
- You simply thought the child
- 944
- 01:39:43,931 --> 01:39:46,390
- wouldn't have
- a life worth living, so...
- 945
- 01:39:47,015 --> 01:39:49,015
- Yeah, but the abortion in itself.
- 946
- 01:39:49,181 --> 01:39:51,973
- Abortion is not murder.
- - Oh, come on.
- 947
- 01:39:52,140 --> 01:39:56,056
- Don't fall back on false clichés
- just for my sake.
- 948
- 01:39:56,223 --> 01:39:58,931
- I ask again,
- what about the abortion?
- 949
- 01:39:59,098 --> 01:40:00,223
- I have no comment.
- 950
- 01:40:00,390 --> 01:40:03,390
- I'm a big proponent
- for abortion rights,
- 951
- 01:40:03,556 --> 01:40:06,140
- but this is 100% female territory.
- 952
- 01:40:06,306 --> 01:40:08,556
- I don't believe a man
- can ever comprehend
- 953
- 01:40:08,723 --> 01:40:11,306
- the situation or the pain.
- 954
- 01:40:11,473 --> 01:40:15,390
- And when it comes to the method,
- I think the less said, the better.
- 955
- 01:40:15,556 --> 01:40:18,556
- Those are two
- very interesting points of view.
- 956
- 01:40:18,723 --> 01:40:21,556
- First, you say that as a man,
- 957
- 01:40:21,723 --> 01:40:23,848
- you can't understand
- a woman's feelings
- 958
- 01:40:24,015 --> 01:40:26,515
- with regard to abortion.
- 959
- 01:40:26,681 --> 01:40:29,598
- Well, that's a bit like saying
- that I couldn't understand
- 960
- 01:40:29,765 --> 01:40:32,515
- the victims of earthquakes
- because they were Chinese.
- 961
- 01:40:34,056 --> 01:40:36,848
- I thought we agreed that empathy
- 962
- 01:40:37,015 --> 01:40:39,765
- was the foundation
- of all humanism.
- 963
- 01:40:39,931 --> 01:40:42,848
- But I can see that it's very
- convenient for men
- 964
- 01:40:43,015 --> 01:40:46,098
- to leave all that abortion
- stuff to women.
- 965
- 01:40:46,265 --> 01:40:47,890
- That way they don't have
- to deal with the guilt
- 966
- 01:40:48,056 --> 01:40:51,015
- and all of the small stuff.
- 967
- 01:40:51,181 --> 01:40:53,765
- But your other remark
- provokes me even more.
- 968
- 01:40:53,931 --> 01:40:57,223
- You think my method
- is not worth discussing?
- 969
- 01:40:59,348 --> 01:41:02,931
- What enjoyment would I,
- or let alone a young pregnant girl,
- 970
- 01:41:03,098 --> 01:41:04,890
- have from hearing
- all the lurid details
- 971
- 01:41:05,056 --> 01:41:09,140
- about how a fetus is removed
- in a clinic or any other way?
- 972
- 01:41:11,181 --> 01:41:12,973
- Well, then,
- we're back at the discussion
- 973
- 01:41:13,140 --> 01:41:15,681
- about eating something
- that was once alive.
- 974
- 01:41:15,848 --> 01:41:19,723
- Do you really think
- abortion is so repugnant
- 975
- 01:41:19,890 --> 01:41:21,473
- if you believe
- that we should know
- 976
- 01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:25,140
- how animals are slaughtered
- in order to eat them?
- 977
- 01:41:25,306 --> 01:41:27,306
- Well, that's a fact
- we have to live with,
- 978
- 01:41:27,473 --> 01:41:29,598
- even if we try to repress it.
- 979
- 01:41:29,765 --> 01:41:31,181
- Just as we do with abortion.
- 980
- 01:41:31,348 --> 01:41:34,181
- Well, you sound
- like a pro-lifer from Texas.
- 981
- 01:41:35,890 --> 01:41:37,515
- I don't think so.
- 982
- 01:41:38,306 --> 01:41:41,056
- First of all, I'm just
- as much a pro-choice as you are.
- 983
- 01:41:41,223 --> 01:41:42,598
- But on principle,
- 984
- 01:41:42,765 --> 01:41:46,681
- I believe that taboos
- are damaging for human beings.
- 985
- 01:41:47,723 --> 01:41:50,515
- That's a relatively easy stance
- for you to take.
- 986
- 01:41:53,473 --> 01:41:56,556
- One that can be misconstrued
- as a...
- 987
- 01:41:56,723 --> 01:41:59,556
- as an argument
- against pregnancy termination.
- 988
- 01:42:01,848 --> 01:42:03,390
- I don't want
- to belittle anything,
- 989
- 01:42:03,556 --> 01:42:06,973
- but I can't see your abortion
- as anything but a...
- 990
- 01:42:08,223 --> 01:42:09,848
- luxury problem.
- 991
- 01:42:13,265 --> 01:42:15,431
- A luxury problem?
- 992
- 01:42:15,598 --> 01:42:18,806
- The really serious,
- serious abortions,
- 993
- 01:42:18,973 --> 01:42:24,056
- the ones that save lives,
- far from our social spheres,
- 994
- 01:42:24,223 --> 01:42:25,890
- you can't endanger them
- just because you
- 995
- 01:42:26,056 --> 01:42:28,723
- provocatively insist
- on showing the gory details.
- 996
- 01:42:30,056 --> 01:42:33,556
- Consider all the millions
- of repressed women,
- 997
- 01:42:33,723 --> 01:42:38,265
- the victims of rape
- and incest, hunger.
- 998
- 01:42:38,431 --> 01:42:41,431
- All those who,
- maybe thanks to an abortion,
- 999
- 01:42:41,598 --> 01:42:42,641
- have regained a new life,
- 1000
- 01:42:42,807 --> 01:42:46,641
- maybe saved a child
- from starving to death.
- 1001
- 01:42:46,807 --> 01:42:51,807
- You can't harm them just because
- of some principle of openness.
- 1002
- 01:42:54,974 --> 01:42:59,724
- Luckily, I was able to get the head
- of the fetus out on the first try,
- 1003
- 01:42:59,891 --> 01:43:01,641
- but it rarely goes like that.
- 1004
- 01:43:01,807 --> 01:43:05,307
- In the 12th week,
- the diameter of the head
- 1005
- 01:43:05,474 --> 01:43:08,474
- is a little more than
- 1.2 centimeters.
- 1006
- 01:43:08,641 --> 01:43:11,224
- Therefore,
- a very impressive instrument
- 1007
- 01:43:11,391 --> 01:43:13,266
- has been developed
- by the medical community.
- 1008
- 01:43:13,432 --> 01:43:16,141
- The nutcracker is an instrument
- 1009
- 01:43:16,307 --> 01:43:20,099
- that we use to get the fetus
- out of the uterus completely.
- 1010
- 01:43:20,266 --> 01:43:24,474
- We enter it into and through
- the dilated cervical channel
- 1011
- 01:43:24,641 --> 01:43:27,057
- and position it around the head
- of the fetus,
- 1012
- 01:43:27,224 --> 01:43:30,307
- and you crack it like a nut,
- 1013
- 01:43:30,474 --> 01:43:33,182
- and then you pull out the fetus,
- and there you have it.
- 1014
- 01:43:33,349 --> 01:43:35,932
- That is the so-called nutcracker.
- 1015
- 01:43:36,099 --> 01:43:38,516
- This is not something I need to know.
- 1016
- 01:43:39,849 --> 01:43:41,974
- Oh, I hope you're not going
- 1017
- 01:43:42,141 --> 01:43:46,016
- to be an opponent of abortion
- based on that.
- 1018
- 01:43:46,182 --> 01:43:49,641
- No, but you have to think
- of the outrage
- 1019
- 01:43:49,807 --> 01:43:52,724
- this knowledge would create
- in society.
- 1020
- 01:43:52,891 --> 01:43:56,641
- So, you're saying that people
- in general are too stupid
- 1021
- 01:43:56,807 --> 01:44:00,974
- to make decisions
- on an informed basis.
- 1022
- 01:44:01,141 --> 01:44:05,349
- And that coming from a man
- who only an hour ago sermonized
- 1023
- 01:44:05,516 --> 01:44:07,891
- about his belief
- in human qualities.
- 1024
- 01:44:08,057 --> 01:44:10,932
- No, you... you're simplifying things.
- 1025
- 01:44:11,099 --> 01:44:14,057
- You can't look at it like that.
- 1026
- 01:44:14,224 --> 01:44:16,641
- It's funny to see you
- so emotional suddenly.
- 1027
- 01:44:21,557 --> 01:44:24,057
- Looking back,
- it rankles me a bit
- 1028
- 01:44:24,224 --> 01:44:28,391
- that I didn't just
- show up all calm and collected
- 1029
- 01:44:28,557 --> 01:44:31,932
- at the appointment
- with the psychologist
- 1030
- 01:44:32,099 --> 01:44:34,682
- and have my abortion
- under full anesthesia.
- 1031
- 01:44:34,849 --> 01:44:38,307
- The fact is that when
- you're completely under,
- 1032
- 01:44:38,474 --> 01:44:41,141
- the fetus doesn't feel
- anything either,
- 1033
- 01:44:41,307 --> 01:44:45,349
- whereas my action, of course,
- caused pain,
- 1034
- 01:44:45,516 --> 01:44:47,391
- depending on how much consciousness
- 1035
- 01:44:47,557 --> 01:44:52,307
- you want to ascribe
- to a fetus about 12 weeks old.
- 1036
- 01:44:52,474 --> 01:44:55,016
- I'm a bit nervous
- about bringing that subject up,
- 1037
- 01:44:55,182 --> 01:44:57,474
- as most of the abortions
- in the world,
- 1038
- 01:44:57,641 --> 01:44:59,599
- due to lack of resources,
- 1039
- 01:44:59,766 --> 01:45:03,891
- occur just under
- local anesthesia or none.
- 1040
- 01:45:05,932 --> 01:45:08,724
- Well, you're a careful man.
- 1041
- 01:45:09,724 --> 01:45:13,891
- Whether we talk about abortion
- or not, you can't escape death,
- 1042
- 01:45:14,057 --> 01:45:17,974
- and my fetus could have turned
- out to be a fine human being,
- 1043
- 01:45:18,141 --> 01:45:21,766
- but one that would
- also eventually die.
- 1044
- 01:45:25,391 --> 01:45:27,807
- What haunts me
- is the ironic detail
- 1045
- 01:45:27,974 --> 01:45:30,766
- that my father and I
- were snail-gatherers.
- 1046
- 01:45:34,016 --> 01:45:38,182
- We had the deepest compassion,
- not to say sentimentality,
- 1047
- 01:45:38,349 --> 01:45:41,432
- about the smallest living things
- on the planet
- 1048
- 01:45:41,599 --> 01:45:43,891
- which we demonstrated
- by saving snails,
- 1049
- 01:45:44,057 --> 01:45:47,557
- often, by the way,
- the same size as my fetus,
- 1050
- 01:45:47,682 --> 01:45:50,432
- from certain death on the path.
- 1051
- 01:45:50,599 --> 01:45:54,057
- We did that only
- when the other one wasn't watching,
- 1052
- 01:45:54,224 --> 01:45:56,391
- as it was a bit embarrassing.
- 1053
- 01:45:57,766 --> 01:46:00,224
- Are you picking up snails?
- 1054
- 01:46:01,516 --> 01:46:03,182
- No.
- 1055
- 01:46:05,057 --> 01:46:06,557
- Are you sure you weren't
- picking up snails?
- 1056
- 01:46:06,724 --> 01:46:08,349
- Yeah.
- - You're sure?
- 1057
- 01:46:08,516 --> 01:46:10,599
- Yeah.
- 1058
- 01:46:12,974 --> 01:46:16,849
- Shall we drop the subject?
- - Yes, please.
- 1059
- 01:46:17,016 --> 01:46:19,099
- Are you sure
- you don't want a little tour
- 1060
- 01:46:19,266 --> 01:46:21,141
- of the technical details
- 1061
- 01:46:21,307 --> 01:46:23,974
- of removal of organs
- for organ donations?
- 1062
- 01:46:24,141 --> 01:46:26,557
- No, thank you. I'm fine.
- 1063
- 01:46:29,224 --> 01:46:30,182
- Where were we?
- 1064
- 01:46:31,141 --> 01:46:35,224
- I think something about your boss
- sending you to see a psychologist.
- 1065
- 01:46:35,391 --> 01:46:37,224
- Yes, that's right.
- 1066
- 01:46:42,641 --> 01:46:45,182
- My name is Joe.
- - Hi, Joe.
- 1067
- 01:46:45,349 --> 01:46:49,349
- And I'm a nymphomaniac.
- - Sex addict.
- 1068
- 01:46:49,516 --> 01:46:52,099
- My name is Joe,
- and I'm a nymphomaniac.
- 1069
- 01:46:52,266 --> 01:46:55,641
- We say sex addict.
- Here, everyone's the same.
- 1070
- 01:47:00,391 --> 01:47:04,682
- Renée, last time you
- told us you had a plan.
- 1071
- 01:47:04,849 --> 01:47:06,724
- How did it go?
- 1072
- 01:47:06,891 --> 01:47:10,974
- I thought of trying something new,
- as nothing had helped.
- 1073
- 01:47:12,516 --> 01:47:16,100
- I thought if I overdosed...
- 1074
- 01:47:16,267 --> 01:47:18,475
- in other words,
- if I did the exact opposite
- 1075
- 01:47:18,642 --> 01:47:20,975
- of what we are trying
- to do here,
- 1076
- 01:47:21,142 --> 01:47:22,558
- then I could get well.
- 1077
- 01:47:22,725 --> 01:47:25,183
- You mean function normally.
- 1078
- 01:47:25,350 --> 01:47:28,600
- I had prepared
- the whole thing very carefully.
- 1079
- 01:47:28,767 --> 01:47:31,808
- Sent my husband away
- for the weekend
- 1080
- 01:47:31,975 --> 01:47:35,808
- and had the children
- taken care of.
- 1081
- 01:47:35,975 --> 01:47:37,975
- It was to happen on the Saturday.
- 1082
- 01:47:40,308 --> 01:47:45,392
- I had... I had collected
- phone numbers for a whole month,
- 1083
- 01:47:45,558 --> 01:47:48,558
- and then back in the coal.
- 1084
- 01:48:27,475 --> 01:48:30,767
- They fucked me for three hours.
- 1085
- 01:48:31,058 --> 01:48:34,058
- And how did
- you feel about that?
- 1086
- 01:48:34,225 --> 01:48:37,142
- Well, I never feel good afterwards.
- I feel ashamed.
- 1087
- 01:48:38,225 --> 01:48:40,642
- But in relation to...
- to your addiction,
- 1088
- 01:48:40,808 --> 01:48:43,600
- do you feel relieved
- like you thought you would?
- 1089
- 01:48:46,308 --> 01:48:47,475
- No.
- 1090
- 01:48:48,975 --> 01:48:52,850
- What should I do?
- I'm ready to do what's necessary.
- 1091
- 01:48:53,017 --> 01:48:55,850
- Sex addiction
- is very different from,
- 1092
- 01:48:56,017 --> 01:48:58,642
- say, abuse of drugs or alcohol
- 1093
- 01:48:58,808 --> 01:49:01,392
- because you don't actually need
- either of those things.
- 1094
- 01:49:01,558 --> 01:49:03,683
- These addictions can
- be completely removed
- 1095
- 01:49:03,850 --> 01:49:08,308
- by removing the drug or the alcohol,
- not that that's easy.
- 1096
- 01:49:08,475 --> 01:49:11,017
- But the difference
- with sex addiction
- 1097
- 01:49:11,183 --> 01:49:14,267
- is that everyone has a sexuality
- 1098
- 01:49:14,433 --> 01:49:16,975
- that's an integral part
- of their personality.
- 1099
- 01:49:18,892 --> 01:49:24,058
- If one could
- imagine exterminating sexuality,
- 1100
- 01:49:24,225 --> 01:49:26,308
- then you'd be left
- with a severely reduced person
- 1101
- 01:49:26,475 --> 01:49:30,933
- because... because sexuality
- also includes tenderness,
- 1102
- 01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:34,600
- contact, solidarity with others,
- 1103
- 01:49:34,767 --> 01:49:37,892
- which would be hard to imagine
- anyone living without on some level.
- 1104
- 01:49:39,517 --> 01:49:43,183
- What you're saying is that no one
- can remove their sexuality,
- 1105
- 01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:45,642
- even though it's destroying
- everything for them.
- 1106
- 01:49:45,808 --> 01:49:47,683
- I wouldn't say no one,
- 1107
- 01:49:47,850 --> 01:49:50,517
- but let's say, at most,
- one in a million
- 1108
- 01:49:50,683 --> 01:49:53,475
- manage to live a life
- without sexuality.
- 1109
- 01:49:53,642 --> 01:49:57,308
- But you can't be basing your therapy
- on that one in a million.
- 1110
- 01:49:57,433 --> 01:50:00,892
- No. The first
- and most important step
- 1111
- 01:50:01,058 --> 01:50:04,808
- is to remove incentive
- and to reduce exposure.
- 1112
- 01:50:06,433 --> 01:50:08,225
- You have to ask yourself
- 1113
- 01:50:08,392 --> 01:50:11,433
- what kind of incentives you have
- and then make it difficult
- 1114
- 01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:13,350
- for yourself to come
- into contact with them.
- 1115
- 01:50:13,517 --> 01:50:17,392
- Basically, anything that
- makes you think about sex.
- 1116
- 01:52:25,851 --> 01:52:28,018
- Stop it.
- 1117
- 01:52:32,143 --> 01:52:35,226
- Joe has something
- she'd like to share.
- 1118
- 01:52:36,476 --> 01:52:38,893
- My name is Joe.
- - Hi, Joe.
- 1119
- 01:52:39,059 --> 01:52:40,851
- And I'm a sex addict,
- 1120
- 01:52:41,018 --> 01:52:45,268
- but I haven't had sex
- for three weeks and five days.
- 1121
- 01:52:48,518 --> 01:52:49,601
- Tell us how you did it, Joe.
- 1122
- 01:52:49,768 --> 01:52:52,893
- You brought notes?
- - Yes.
- 1123
- 01:52:58,226 --> 01:53:03,268
- Dear everyone,
- don't think it's been easy,
- 1124
- 01:53:03,434 --> 01:53:06,934
- but I understand now
- that we are all alike.
- 1125
- 01:53:21,976 --> 01:53:26,309
- Are you okay, Joe?
- - Yes, yes.
- 1126
- 01:53:30,768 --> 01:53:32,726
- Would you like
- a glass of water?
- 1127
- 01:53:35,434 --> 01:53:37,018
- Thank you.
- 1128
- 01:53:45,768 --> 01:53:47,893
- Would you rather share another time?
- 1129
- 01:53:53,684 --> 01:53:56,059
- No, I'd like to speak.
- 1130
- 01:54:01,101 --> 01:54:06,351
- Dear everyone,
- don't think it's been easy,
- 1131
- 01:54:06,518 --> 01:54:08,726
- but I understand now
- 1132
- 01:54:08,893 --> 01:54:12,893
- that we're not
- and never will be alike.
- 1133
- 01:54:15,143 --> 01:54:19,851
- I'm not like you,
- who fucks to be validated
- 1134
- 01:54:20,018 --> 01:54:22,559
- and might just as well give up
- putting cocks inside you.
- 1135
- 01:54:22,726 --> 01:54:26,393
- You already got your bloody kick
- a long time ago
- 1136
- 01:54:26,559 --> 01:54:29,143
- when it turned out that someone
- was even bothered to fuck you.
- 1137
- 01:54:29,309 --> 01:54:31,184
- And I'm not like you.
- 1138
- 01:54:31,351 --> 01:54:33,226
- Eat yourself to death
- if you want.
- 1139
- 01:54:33,393 --> 01:54:35,476
- I have no pity for you.
- 1140
- 01:54:35,643 --> 01:54:37,351
- All you want is to be filled up,
- 1141
- 01:54:37,518 --> 01:54:42,518
- and whether it's by a man
- or by tons of disgusting slop
- 1142
- 01:54:42,684 --> 01:54:44,601
- makes no difference,
- 1143
- 01:54:44,768 --> 01:54:46,976
- because it's all just
- a pathetic attempt
- 1144
- 01:54:47,143 --> 01:54:50,018
- at filling out
- your own resounding emptiness
- 1145
- 01:54:50,226 --> 01:54:55,059
- and hiding your ridiculous
- egocentric self-loathing.
- 1146
- 01:54:55,226 --> 01:54:57,726
- And I'm definitely not like you.
- 1147
- 01:54:57,893 --> 01:55:02,059
- That empathy you claim is a lie
- 1148
- 01:55:02,226 --> 01:55:06,268
- because all you are
- is society's morality police,
- 1149
- 01:55:06,434 --> 01:55:11,559
- whose duty is to erase my obscenity
- from the surface of the Earth,
- 1150
- 01:55:11,726 --> 01:55:14,559
- so that the bourgeoisie
- won't feel sick.
- 1151
- 01:55:17,768 --> 01:55:19,434
- I'm not like you.
- 1152
- 01:55:20,643 --> 01:55:25,393
- I am a nymphomaniac,
- and I love myself for being one,
- 1153
- 01:55:25,559 --> 01:55:29,934
- but above all, I love my cunt
- 1154
- 01:55:30,101 --> 01:55:33,226
- and my filthy, dirty lust.
- 1155
- 01:55:56,559 --> 01:55:58,684
- What just happened?
- 1156
- 01:55:58,851 --> 01:56:02,893
- I didn't get that,
- with the car that burned.
- 1157
- 01:56:03,059 --> 01:56:04,643
- No, I'm sorry.
- 1158
- 01:56:04,809 --> 01:56:08,434
- I was just in too much of
- a hurry to get to the last chapter.
- 1159
- 01:56:18,477 --> 01:56:20,477
- It's dawning.
- 1160
- 01:56:20,644 --> 01:56:23,269
- How can you tell?
- 1161
- 01:56:23,435 --> 01:56:26,185
- Oh, it's...
- it's just a slight coloring.
- 1162
- 01:56:26,352 --> 01:56:29,769
- I know because I've stood here
- so often at this time.
- 1163
- 01:56:31,144 --> 01:56:33,477
- You could say
- I've developed an ability
- 1164
- 01:56:33,644 --> 01:56:37,435
- to see dawn before everyone else.
- 1165
- 01:56:41,102 --> 01:56:43,935
- Then you understand
- what I mean when I say
- 1166
- 01:56:44,102 --> 01:56:48,352
- that twilight suddenly appeared
- at this point in my story.
- 1167
- 01:56:50,102 --> 01:56:53,727
- I understood that society
- had no room for me,
- 1168
- 01:56:53,894 --> 01:56:58,435
- and I had no room for society
- and never had.
- 1169
- 01:57:00,185 --> 01:57:02,477
- It would've been much, much easier
- 1170
- 01:57:02,644 --> 01:57:04,894
- to have realized that earlier on,
- 1171
- 01:57:05,060 --> 01:57:08,227
- but suddenly,
- 1172
- 01:57:08,394 --> 01:57:11,144
- my senses unfolded dramatically.
- 1173
- 01:57:12,977 --> 01:57:16,977
- To go from the respectable
- daylight side of society
- 1174
- 01:57:17,144 --> 01:57:19,519
- to the shady, nocturnal side
- 1175
- 01:57:20,394 --> 01:57:22,602
- was like changing sides in a war.
- 1176
- 01:57:23,685 --> 01:57:26,144
- You put your old army behind you,
- 1177
- 01:57:26,310 --> 01:57:29,685
- and suddenly, the next second,
- you're swallowed by the new one.
- 1178
- 01:57:29,852 --> 01:57:32,227
- There's no in between.
- 1179
- 01:57:46,310 --> 01:57:48,310
- I'm sure it was quite natural for you
- 1180
- 01:57:48,477 --> 01:57:50,810
- to furnish your room
- as a monk's cell,
- 1181
- 01:57:50,977 --> 01:57:55,477
- but as an inspiration
- for this story, chapter headings
- 1182
- 01:57:55,644 --> 01:57:57,769
- hasn't been easy.
- 1183
- 01:57:57,935 --> 01:58:01,019
- There's simply nothing
- left for me to use.
- 1184
- 01:58:02,602 --> 01:58:04,602
- Well, I'm sorry about that.
- 1185
- 01:58:05,935 --> 01:58:08,477
- But if I may,
- I can give you a tip.
- 1186
- 01:58:09,852 --> 01:58:11,727
- Yes, please.
- 1187
- 01:58:11,894 --> 01:58:14,602
- You know, I occupy myself
- mostly with texts,
- 1188
- 01:58:14,769 --> 01:58:18,102
- but sometimes the text can seem so...
- 1189
- 01:58:18,269 --> 01:58:22,144
- so empty, so unfathomably empty.
- 1190
- 01:58:22,310 --> 01:58:26,269
- It could be the best text
- by the most famous author.
- 1191
- 01:58:26,435 --> 01:58:30,060
- The solution might be
- to change your point of view.
- 1192
- 01:58:31,769 --> 01:58:33,727
- I don't get that.
- 1193
- 01:58:33,894 --> 01:58:39,060
- Things hide
- when they become familiar.
- 1194
- 01:58:39,227 --> 01:58:43,227
- But if you look at them
- from another angle,
- 1195
- 01:58:43,394 --> 01:58:46,185
- they might take
- on a new meaning.
- 1196
- 01:58:57,310 --> 01:58:58,602
- You're right.
- 1197
- 01:58:59,727 --> 01:59:04,352
- Before this was just the stain
- from the tea I threw.
- 1198
- 01:59:05,810 --> 01:59:08,477
- Can you see what it could be?
- 1199
- 01:59:09,935 --> 01:59:11,269
- A revolver!
- 1200
- 01:59:11,435 --> 01:59:14,977
- No, a revolver has a drum
- that revolves.
- 1201
- 01:59:15,144 --> 01:59:17,144
- It's a pistol.
- 1202
- 01:59:17,310 --> 01:59:20,019
- Can you see what kind it could be?
- 1203
- 01:59:20,185 --> 01:59:23,310
- No, I don't remember anything
- like that from my literature.
- 1204
- 01:59:23,477 --> 01:59:25,894
- Oh, but it's something
- I can remember from mine.
- 1205
- 01:59:26,060 --> 01:59:30,352
- Ian Fleming.
- - Not familiar.
- 1206
- 01:59:30,519 --> 01:59:33,769
- If you haven't read that,
- you haven't read anything at all.
- 1207
- 01:59:35,144 --> 01:59:38,144
- This could be,
- with a little imagination,
- 1208
- 01:59:38,310 --> 01:59:41,935
- a Walther PPK automatic,
- 1209
- 01:59:42,102 --> 01:59:44,352
- the same gun
- that was issued to Bond,
- 1210
- 01:59:44,519 --> 01:59:47,935
- after his preferred pistol,
- the Beretta, had jammed.
- 1211
- 01:59:49,727 --> 01:59:51,144
- Is that something you can use?
- 1212
- 01:59:53,102 --> 01:59:55,019
- Oh, yes, it is.
- 1213
- 02:00:04,644 --> 02:00:09,144
- Whether I left
- society or it left me, I cannot say.
- 1214
- 02:00:09,310 --> 02:00:12,435
- I suppose you could make
- an argument for both sides.
- 1215
- 02:00:13,894 --> 02:00:15,894
- I was on my way
- to the shady side
- 1216
- 02:00:16,060 --> 02:00:19,435
- of the debt collecting business,
- which, among other things,
- 1217
- 02:00:19,602 --> 02:00:22,727
- involves stuff like
- burning people's cars.
- 1218
- 02:00:24,769 --> 02:00:28,685
- I had for a long time
- known about this man, L.
- 1219
- 02:00:33,977 --> 02:00:36,185
- Hi, my name is Joe.
- 1220
- 02:00:36,352 --> 02:00:40,269
- I know that. Come in.
- 1221
- 02:00:44,894 --> 02:00:46,852
- I'm looking for a job.
- 1222
- 02:00:48,395 --> 02:00:49,811
- I've been working in an office,
- 1223
- 02:00:49,978 --> 02:00:52,478
- and I was never really good at it.
- 1224
- 02:00:52,645 --> 02:00:56,270
- I can understand that.
- I mean, what's the point?
- 1225
- 02:00:58,936 --> 02:01:02,728
- I've thought of you now and then
- and wondered when you'd show up.
- 1226
- 02:01:06,395 --> 02:01:10,395
- My lifestyle is relatively expensive,
- 1227
- 02:01:12,228 --> 02:01:15,686
- and I need a fair amount
- of free time for a sideline.
- 1228
- 02:01:15,853 --> 02:01:17,770
- Of course.
- I already know that.
- 1229
- 02:01:17,936 --> 02:01:20,811
- I believe I possess
- some qualifications
- 1230
- 02:01:20,978 --> 02:01:23,228
- and that I'm rather unscrupulous.
- 1231
- 02:01:23,395 --> 02:01:26,978
- I know all about your qualifications
- and they're excellent.
- 1232
- 02:01:27,145 --> 02:01:30,770
- And you have already proven you
- are unscrupulous by coming here.
- 1233
- 02:01:33,353 --> 02:01:37,811
- I would suggest that you start
- your own little business
- 1234
- 02:01:37,978 --> 02:01:39,853
- with my help.
- 1235
- 02:01:40,020 --> 02:01:44,020
- I understand you possess
- a great deal of insight
- 1236
- 02:01:44,186 --> 02:01:47,061
- about a rather broad spectrum of men.
- 1237
- 02:01:48,395 --> 02:01:52,478
- This could be, or should be,
- capitalized on.
- 1238
- 02:01:52,645 --> 02:01:55,145
- What should I do?
- 1239
- 02:01:55,311 --> 02:01:58,270
- I facilitate certain assignments
- for my humble firm
- 1240
- 02:01:58,436 --> 02:02:00,520
- as part of a debt
- collection business.
- 1241
- 02:02:00,686 --> 02:02:03,186
- In other words,
- I need subcontractors
- 1242
- 02:02:03,353 --> 02:02:06,061
- who can put moderate pressure
- on individuals,
- 1243
- 02:02:06,228 --> 02:02:10,145
- with whom my clients rightly
- or wrongly have a bone to pick.
- 1244
- 02:02:10,311 --> 02:02:12,770
- Understand?
- - Extortion.
- 1245
- 02:02:12,936 --> 02:02:14,728
- No. No, no, no, no.
- 1246
- 02:02:14,895 --> 02:02:19,645
- I always prefer
- the term 'debt collection.'
- 1247
- 02:02:21,353 --> 02:02:23,020
- Yeah.
- - I refrain from judging
- 1248
- 02:02:23,186 --> 02:02:27,436
- whether my clients' wishes
- are legitimate or otherwise,
- 1249
- 02:02:27,561 --> 02:02:31,895
- a point of view I strongly
- recommend you follow.
- 1250
- 02:02:33,561 --> 02:02:38,728
- I'm still unsure of what it is
- I should do.
- 1251
- 02:02:38,895 --> 02:02:40,978
- Well, you'll need two thugs,
- 1252
- 02:02:41,145 --> 02:02:43,686
- and I can think of two good ones.
- 1253
- 02:02:43,853 --> 02:02:48,395
- They both have a lot of experience
- and can show you the ropes.
- 1254
- 02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:51,395
- That's interesting.
- 1255
- 02:02:51,561 --> 02:02:54,561
- It's not at all interesting.
- 1256
- 02:02:54,728 --> 02:02:56,978
- Most interesting thing about it was
- 1257
- 02:02:57,145 --> 02:03:00,020
- how easily I dedicated
- myself to crime.
- 1258
- 02:03:00,186 --> 02:03:02,395
- My main
- qualification, of course,
- 1259
- 02:03:02,561 --> 02:03:05,645
- was my considerable experience
- with men and sex.
- 1260
- 02:03:05,811 --> 02:03:09,853
- But even my more specialized
- skills came in handy.
- 1261
- 02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:35,395
- No, now this is not how it goes.
- 1262
- 02:03:35,561 --> 02:03:37,895
- You have to wait until you're hit.
- 1263
- 02:03:40,603 --> 02:03:44,311
- The two helpers that
- L had recommended were okay,
- 1264
- 02:03:44,478 --> 02:03:47,978
- but they were predisposed
- to a rather repetitive technique,
- 1265
- 02:03:48,145 --> 02:03:51,936
- which consisted of creating
- as much havoc as possible
- 1266
- 02:03:52,103 --> 02:03:53,520
- with a pair of iron bars.
- 1267
- 02:04:09,186 --> 02:04:13,520
- Destroying your things doesn't
- seem to have much effect on you.
- 1268
- 02:04:13,686 --> 02:04:15,145
- The only thing
- worth mentioning
- 1269
- 02:04:15,311 --> 02:04:17,520
- from my first years
- as a collector
- 1270
- 02:04:17,686 --> 02:04:21,436
- was the story of an unusually
- sober-minded,
- 1271
- 02:04:21,603 --> 02:04:24,395
- and for that reason vulnerable, man.
- 1272
- 02:04:24,561 --> 02:04:27,436
- The dirt I threatened
- to go public with
- 1273
- 02:04:27,603 --> 02:04:31,103
- was normally within
- my core competence: sex.
- 1274
- 02:04:31,978 --> 02:04:36,603
- But for once, here was a man
- I was unable to read sexually,
- 1275
- 02:04:36,770 --> 02:04:39,395
- so I became persistent.
- 1276
- 02:04:39,561 --> 02:04:41,395
- Tie him to the chair.
- 1277
- 02:04:43,061 --> 02:04:44,728
- Don't hurt him.
- 1278
- 02:04:48,061 --> 02:04:50,311
- I can't find a stain on you,
- 1279
- 02:04:51,186 --> 02:04:54,145
- but my experience tells me
- that no man is spotless.
- 1280
- 02:04:55,353 --> 02:04:59,353
- Luckily, you're equipped with
- a very reliable truth detector.
- 1281
- 02:05:09,936 --> 02:05:12,811
- I'm going to tell you a few stories.
- 1282
- 02:05:12,978 --> 02:05:15,353
- All you have to do is listen.
- 1283
- 02:05:17,395 --> 02:05:20,521
- You're in a bar watching a couple...
- 1284
- 02:05:20,687 --> 02:05:23,229
- I now meticulously
- went through the catalogue
- 1285
- 02:05:23,396 --> 02:05:26,604
- of sexual deviations
- in fictional form.
- 1286
- 02:05:26,771 --> 02:05:29,687
- Stories about sado-masochism,
- 1287
- 02:05:29,854 --> 02:05:33,979
- fetishism, homosexuality,
- you name it.
- 1288
- 02:05:34,146 --> 02:05:35,854
- But he didn't react.
- 1289
- 02:05:36,021 --> 02:05:38,479
- And I'd almost given up
- when I said...
- 1290
- 02:05:38,646 --> 02:05:43,271
- On your way home,
- you walk through the park.
- 1291
- 02:05:48,021 --> 02:05:49,729
- And something makes you stop.
- 1292
- 02:05:50,854 --> 02:05:52,687
- You hear something.
- 1293
- 02:06:06,896 --> 02:06:08,604
- Yes, that's it.
- 1294
- 02:06:08,771 --> 02:06:12,479
- You can hear the children
- in the playground.
- 1295
- 02:06:13,604 --> 02:06:18,062
- You sit on a bench nearby
- and watch them play.
- 1296
- 02:06:18,229 --> 02:06:21,396
- There's a little boy in shorts.
- 1297
- 02:06:22,771 --> 02:06:24,979
- He's playing in the sandpit.
- 1298
- 02:06:26,979 --> 02:06:31,854
- He looks at you
- with his blue eyes.
- 1299
- 02:06:33,396 --> 02:06:35,104
- He smiles at you.
- 1300
- 02:06:35,271 --> 02:06:37,437
- I think he comes to you.
- 1301
- 02:06:37,646 --> 02:06:42,771
- He sits on your lap
- and looks up at your face.
- 1302
- 02:06:43,437 --> 02:06:47,687
- He says he'd like
- to come home with you.
- 1303
- 02:06:51,854 --> 02:06:53,104
- At home,
- 1304
- 02:06:53,271 --> 02:06:56,562
- you can't fight the idea
- of being naked together.
- 1305
- 02:06:57,562 --> 02:07:00,021
- He crawls all over you.
- 1306
- 02:07:00,187 --> 02:07:01,812
- You get an erection.
- 1307
- 02:07:01,979 --> 02:07:04,062
- Won't you please stop?
- 1308
- 02:07:04,229 --> 02:07:06,979
- He lies on his stomach.
- 1309
- 02:07:07,771 --> 02:07:10,604
- You pull down his pants.
- 1310
- 02:07:10,771 --> 02:07:12,396
- I'll pay!
- 1311
- 02:07:44,771 --> 02:07:47,021
- You did what?
- 1312
- 02:07:47,187 --> 02:07:48,937
- I gave him a blowjob.
- 1313
- 02:07:49,104 --> 02:07:52,771
- Why? That pig!
- - I took pity on him.
- 1314
- 02:07:52,937 --> 02:07:54,271
- Pity?
- 1315
- 02:07:54,437 --> 02:07:57,937
- Yes. I had just destroyed his life.
- 1316
- 02:07:58,104 --> 02:08:02,271
- Nobody knew his secret,
- most probably not even himself.
- 1317
- 02:08:03,479 --> 02:08:06,062
- He sat there with the shame.
- 1318
- 02:08:06,229 --> 02:08:09,479
- I suppose I sucked him off
- as a kind of apology.
- 1319
- 02:08:09,646 --> 02:08:10,687
- That's unbelievable.
- 1320
- 02:08:11,979 --> 02:08:14,854
- No, listen to me.
- This is a man who'd succeeded
- 1321
- 02:08:15,021 --> 02:08:16,979
- in repressing his own desire,
- 1322
- 02:08:17,146 --> 02:08:22,271
- who had never before given into it,
- right up until I forced it out.
- 1323
- 02:08:22,437 --> 02:08:24,937
- He had lived a life full of denial
- 1324
- 02:08:25,104 --> 02:08:27,521
- and had never hurt a soul.
- 1325
- 02:08:27,687 --> 02:08:30,521
- I think that's laudable.
- 1326
- 02:08:30,687 --> 02:08:31,729
- No matter how much I try,
- 1327
- 02:08:31,896 --> 02:08:34,479
- I can't find anything laudable
- in pedophilia.
- 1328
- 02:08:34,646 --> 02:08:37,521
- That's because you think
- about the perhaps five percent
- 1329
- 02:08:37,687 --> 02:08:40,104
- who actually hurt children.
- 1330
- 02:08:40,271 --> 02:08:45,021
- The remaining 95 percent
- never live out their fantasies.
- 1331
- 02:08:45,187 --> 02:08:47,604
- Think about their suffering.
- 1332
- 02:08:47,771 --> 02:08:52,687
- Sexuality is the strongest force
- in human beings.
- 1333
- 02:08:52,854 --> 02:08:57,687
- To be born with a forbidden
- sexuality must be agonizing.
- 1334
- 02:08:57,854 --> 02:09:01,271
- The pedophile
- who manages to get through life
- 1335
- 02:09:01,437 --> 02:09:03,521
- with the shame of his desire
- 1336
- 02:09:03,687 --> 02:09:07,479
- while never acting on it,
- deserves a bloody medal.
- 1337
- 02:09:14,562 --> 02:09:18,187
- The writer Thomas Mann
- said somewhere
- 1338
- 02:09:18,354 --> 02:09:20,437
- that a temptation resisted
- 1339
- 02:09:20,604 --> 02:09:24,896
- is not a sin
- but a test of virtue.
- 1340
- 02:09:28,646 --> 02:09:32,271
- Wasn't there something
- about that writer and boys?
- 1341
- 02:09:32,437 --> 02:09:35,021
- Yeah, so they say.
- 1342
- 02:09:35,187 --> 02:09:38,354
- I suppose he dealt with it
- by writing them out.
- 1343
- 02:09:38,521 --> 02:09:41,271
- And he got a medal, a Nobel Prize.
- 1344
- 02:09:45,771 --> 02:09:48,896
- But there was
- another reason for my sympathy,
- 1345
- 02:09:49,062 --> 02:09:51,397
- which you find so mysterious.
- 1346
- 02:09:53,272 --> 02:09:57,272
- I saw a man who was carrying
- the same cross as myself.
- 1347
- 02:09:59,897 --> 02:10:01,980
- Loneliness.
- 1348
- 02:10:05,188 --> 02:10:07,980
- We were both sexual outcasts.
- 1349
- 02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:18,480
- In any case,
- some years passed,
- 1350
- 02:10:18,647 --> 02:10:21,605
- during which my business grew,
- 1351
- 02:10:21,772 --> 02:10:26,355
- enabling me to step up my
- anonymous deposits to Marcel.
- 1352
- 02:10:27,272 --> 02:10:30,813
- Your business is doing great.
- 1353
- 02:10:30,980 --> 02:10:34,772
- You complete all the jobs
- I give you to perfection.
- 1354
- 02:10:34,938 --> 02:10:39,605
- And I hear only words of praise
- from your other clients, but...
- 1355
- 02:10:39,772 --> 02:10:42,688
- But what?
- - We aren't getting any younger.
- 1356
- 02:10:42,855 --> 02:10:46,855
- No, that's for sure.
- 1357
- 02:10:47,022 --> 02:10:48,480
- I think you're getting to that age
- 1358
- 02:10:48,647 --> 02:10:50,647
- where you have to start thinking
- about a successor.
- 1359
- 02:10:50,813 --> 02:10:54,522
- Oh, I don't need a fucking successor.
- 1360
- 02:10:54,688 --> 02:10:56,355
- Listen.
- 1361
- 02:10:56,522 --> 02:10:59,897
- A person should take
- their crime seriously.
- 1362
- 02:11:00,063 --> 02:11:03,188
- You need someone
- to be your right hand,
- 1363
- 02:11:03,355 --> 02:11:07,188
- someone to help you.
- A crown princess.
- 1364
- 02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:12,730
- The normal process is to find out
- 1365
- 02:11:12,897 --> 02:11:16,355
- what colleagues are in prison,
- or are drug addicts,
- 1366
- 02:11:16,522 --> 02:11:21,188
- and thereby unable to fulfill
- their roles as parents.
- 1367
- 02:11:21,355 --> 02:11:25,688
- Then, you find out
- where their kids play football,
- 1368
- 02:11:25,855 --> 02:11:28,147
- and you get involved.
- 1369
- 02:11:28,313 --> 02:11:30,063
- You cheer them on
- for a couple of years,
- 1370
- 02:11:30,230 --> 02:11:33,688
- no matter how bad they are.
- Actually, the worse, the better.
- 1371
- 02:11:33,855 --> 02:11:37,813
- That way, gradually, you take on
- the role of the parent
- 1372
- 02:11:37,980 --> 02:11:41,730
- until, in the end,
- you have a loyal helper
- 1373
- 02:11:41,897 --> 02:11:45,188
- that will walk through fire for you.
- 1374
- 02:11:45,355 --> 02:11:47,397
- Even do time for you.
- 1375
- 02:11:51,147 --> 02:11:55,272
- It sounds like a kind of
- an entrapment you're suggesting.
- 1376
- 02:11:55,438 --> 02:11:58,897
- An unsavory entrapment.
- - Call it what you want,
- 1377
- 02:11:59,063 --> 02:12:03,022
- but if you believe at all in
- the effects of good parenting,
- 1378
- 02:12:03,188 --> 02:12:06,105
- that kid will have much greater
- opportunities with you
- 1379
- 02:12:06,272 --> 02:12:08,688
- as a mentor than without.
- 1380
- 02:12:08,855 --> 02:12:11,230
- And since I like you,
- 1381
- 02:12:11,397 --> 02:12:15,230
- I've been looking around
- for a suitable subject.
- 1382
- 02:12:15,397 --> 02:12:20,688
- She's 15 years old from
- a family of hardened criminals,
- 1383
- 02:12:20,855 --> 02:12:23,188
- and she's been through a lot.
- 1384
- 02:12:23,355 --> 02:12:26,438
- Last couple of years
- she's been institutionalized.
- 1385
- 02:12:26,605 --> 02:12:29,147
- Her father's in prison
- and her mother died of an overdose.
- 1386
- 02:12:29,313 --> 02:12:31,022
- She's a smart girl.
- 1387
- 02:12:31,188 --> 02:12:33,105
- And although
- she doesn't play football,
- 1388
- 02:12:33,272 --> 02:12:36,063
- she does play basketball very badly.
- 1389
- 02:12:37,313 --> 02:12:42,688
- She's chosen a team sport
- because she's lonely.
- 1390
- 02:12:42,855 --> 02:12:45,855
- I saved the best part for last.
- 1391
- 02:12:46,022 --> 02:12:48,980
- Her right ear is slightly deformed,
- 1392
- 02:12:49,147 --> 02:12:52,855
- which she is very ashamed of,
- 1393
- 02:12:53,022 --> 02:12:56,022
- and of course, this serves
- to isolate her even more.
- 1394
- 02:12:56,188 --> 02:13:00,522
- It makes her an easy target
- for even the slightest bit
- 1395
- 02:13:00,688 --> 02:13:05,438
- of attention
- or sign of empathy from you.
- 1396
- 02:13:09,397 --> 02:13:12,980
- Despite my protests,
- the clever L somehow talked me
- 1397
- 02:13:13,147 --> 02:13:14,772
- into actually having a look at P.
- 1398
- 02:13:17,563 --> 02:13:20,938
- The longer I watched the poor girl
- with the deformed ear,
- 1399
- 02:13:21,105 --> 02:13:24,313
- the more repulsive
- I found the whole plan.
- 1400
- 02:13:51,230 --> 02:13:53,230
- But as if L had foreseen this,
- 1401
- 02:13:53,397 --> 02:13:59,063
- the meeting with P filled me
- with pity and emotion.
- 1402
- 02:13:59,230 --> 02:14:00,938
- And without wanting to,
- 1403
- 02:14:01,105 --> 02:14:04,355
- I found myself,
- weekend after weekend,
- 1404
- 02:14:04,522 --> 02:14:08,230
- at her games
- supporting the poor player.
- 1405
- 02:14:23,273 --> 02:14:26,814
- Thanks for cheering me on.
- - You're welcome.
- 1406
- 02:14:26,981 --> 02:14:29,231
- You played really well today.
- 1407
- 02:14:31,648 --> 02:14:34,314
- No, I didn't.
- - You did.
- 1408
- 02:14:34,481 --> 02:14:37,523
- You really improved yourself lately.
- 1409
- 02:14:49,023 --> 02:14:52,773
- Sixteen years. Congratulations.
- 1410
- 02:14:52,939 --> 02:14:55,731
- Thank you.
- - You're welcome.
- 1411
- 02:15:18,481 --> 02:15:20,023
- I was proud to introduce P
- 1412
- 02:15:20,189 --> 02:15:22,856
- to my father's passion
- and his world.
- 1413
- 02:15:25,939 --> 02:15:27,731
- It's actually...
- 1414
- 02:15:29,189 --> 02:15:33,148
- the souls of the trees
- that we see in the winter.
- 1415
- 02:15:39,564 --> 02:15:42,189
- I think they look like human souls.
- 1416
- 02:15:46,273 --> 02:15:48,148
- Yeah, you're right.
- 1417
- 02:15:49,023 --> 02:15:51,773
- They do look like human souls.
- 1418
- 02:15:51,981 --> 02:15:55,189
- Twisted souls, regular souls,
- 1419
- 02:15:55,356 --> 02:15:57,439
- crazy souls,
- 1420
- 02:15:57,606 --> 02:16:01,273
- all depending on the kind
- of lives human beings lead.
- 1421
- 02:16:04,148 --> 02:16:08,564
- Then that must be
- Miss Williamson from number 21.
- 1422
- 02:16:08,731 --> 02:16:11,231
- That's not a very nice thing
- to say about Miss Williamson.
- 1423
- 02:16:11,398 --> 02:16:14,939
- But she's always angry.
- She has a monster in her belly.
- 1424
- 02:16:15,106 --> 02:16:17,648
- Well, she does have
- an ulcer in her belly
- 1425
- 02:16:17,814 --> 02:16:19,481
- that I've been treating
- for the last 15 years.
- 1426
- 02:16:22,064 --> 02:16:24,481
- And sure enough,
- one of the following days
- 1427
- 02:16:24,648 --> 02:16:26,898
- my dad dragged me
- into the woods again.
- 1428
- 02:16:27,064 --> 02:16:30,856
- I found my tree.
- My soul tree.
- 1429
- 02:16:33,189 --> 02:16:38,939
- And no, it's not that one, okay,
- 'cause then I would be dead.
- 1430
- 02:16:40,856 --> 02:16:43,064
- This is my tree.
- 1431
- 02:16:46,439 --> 02:16:50,564
- It's not an ash tree.
- - No, it's an oak tree.
- 1432
- 02:16:53,773 --> 02:16:55,648
- It has two trunks.
- 1433
- 02:16:55,814 --> 02:16:59,023
- Yeah, isn't it great?
- 1434
- 02:16:59,189 --> 02:17:04,398
- It shows itself to both sides,
- the lake and the forest.
- 1435
- 02:17:14,398 --> 02:17:18,689
- But, Dad, how does
- a tree get two trunks?
- 1436
- 02:17:20,314 --> 02:17:24,273
- The most common reason
- is that the top broke
- 1437
- 02:17:24,439 --> 02:17:26,314
- when it was very young.
- 1438
- 02:17:26,481 --> 02:17:30,314
- That means
- that you've been broken once.
- 1439
- 02:17:30,481 --> 02:17:32,523
- Have you, Dad?
- 1440
- 02:17:38,731 --> 02:17:41,939
- It seems that it can be
- rather revealing...
- 1441
- 02:17:43,398 --> 02:17:45,689
- to find your soul tree.
- 1442
- 02:17:49,689 --> 02:17:55,314
- My father found his soul tree,
- but I've never found mine.
- 1443
- 02:17:55,856 --> 02:18:01,023
- 'You will know it when you see it,'
- is what he said.
- 1444
- 02:18:07,606 --> 02:18:13,439
- Kitchen and dining room.
- And in here...
- 1445
- 02:18:15,273 --> 02:18:17,606
- When P reached the age of maturity
- 1446
- 02:18:17,773 --> 02:18:20,064
- and I became her personal adviser,
- 1447
- 02:18:20,231 --> 02:18:22,731
- I asked her to move in with me.
- 1448
- 02:18:31,148 --> 02:18:33,898
- Let me see you with your hair up.
- 1449
- 02:18:34,064 --> 02:18:36,564
- You're so pretty.
- 1450
- 02:18:48,606 --> 02:18:52,314
- All this time
- all my sexual activity had stopped.
- 1451
- 02:18:52,481 --> 02:18:57,024
- My groin was one big sore
- from my abuse that wouldn't heal,
- 1452
- 02:18:57,190 --> 02:19:00,024
- and made even
- masturbation impossible.
- 1453
- 02:19:04,274 --> 02:19:07,565
- I experienced definite
- abstinence symptoms...
- 1454
- 02:19:07,732 --> 02:19:09,690
- fever and cramps.
- 1455
- 02:19:34,649 --> 02:19:36,399
- Joe, what's going on?
- 1456
- 02:19:38,607 --> 02:19:41,399
- Careful.
- - We need to clear this up.
- 1457
- 02:19:50,274 --> 02:19:53,232
- I just get this sometimes.
- 1458
- 02:19:56,565 --> 02:19:59,065
- It's okay. It's okay.
- 1459
- 02:20:03,149 --> 02:20:05,649
- Do you want to go back to bed?
- 1460
- 02:20:07,649 --> 02:20:09,857
- Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- 1461
- 02:20:25,982 --> 02:20:27,857
- I love you, Joe.
- 1462
- 02:20:28,024 --> 02:20:29,774
- I love you, too.
- 1463
- 02:20:31,190 --> 02:20:33,524
- I don't mean it in that way.
- 1464
- 02:20:36,565 --> 02:20:39,982
- Come on, it's late.
- You should go back to bed.
- 1465
- 02:20:41,524 --> 02:20:42,565
- Good night.
- 1466
- 02:20:45,440 --> 02:20:47,857
- Perhaps she really loved you.
- 1467
- 02:20:51,940 --> 02:20:55,315
- She was so very young.
- 1468
- 02:20:55,482 --> 02:20:59,774
- Maybe she, too, discovered
- her cunt at the age of two.
- 1469
- 02:20:59,940 --> 02:21:02,065
- Maybe earlier.
- 1470
- 02:21:02,232 --> 02:21:03,774
- I couldn't accept it.
- 1471
- 02:21:03,940 --> 02:21:07,732
- Perhaps because you
- really wanted it to be true.
- 1472
- 02:21:09,815 --> 02:21:11,482
- Perhaps I hoped it.
- 1473
- 02:21:11,649 --> 02:21:14,982
- It's very touching,
- all this about P.
- 1474
- 02:21:17,190 --> 02:21:20,774
- Then you've probably
- misunderstood the whole thing.
- 1475
- 02:21:20,940 --> 02:21:24,440
- Shall we get the story over
- and done with?
- 1476
- 02:21:52,565 --> 02:21:54,607
- Don't.
- 1477
- 02:21:55,815 --> 02:21:57,899
- I wanna see you.
- 1478
- 02:21:58,065 --> 02:21:59,065
- Don't.
- - Why?
- 1479
- 02:21:59,232 --> 02:22:00,690
- Please, don't.
- - Why not?
- 1480
- 02:22:00,857 --> 02:22:04,399
- No. No, I have a wound.
- 1481
- 02:22:04,565 --> 02:22:06,565
- I have a wound.
- - It doesn't matter.
- 1482
- 02:22:06,732 --> 02:22:10,607
- No, you don't understand.
- - I have that thing with my ear.
- 1483
- 02:22:10,774 --> 02:22:13,440
- I'm so ashamed.
- 1484
- 02:22:49,774 --> 02:22:51,857
- Do you like me?
- 1485
- 02:22:55,440 --> 02:22:57,440
- You're so beautiful.
- 1486
- 02:24:35,025 --> 02:24:37,775
- There's one thing
- I don't understand.
- 1487
- 02:24:38,608 --> 02:24:41,316
- Did she know what you did
- for a living?
- 1488
- 02:24:41,483 --> 02:24:46,650
- P was very discreet
- and a girl of few words.
- 1489
- 02:24:48,150 --> 02:24:50,441
- Oddly, although I worked
- strange hours,
- 1490
- 02:24:50,608 --> 02:24:52,483
- she never asked about my work.
- 1491
- 02:24:54,233 --> 02:24:57,066
- But one day she had a question.
- 1492
- 02:24:58,691 --> 02:25:00,316
- Joe.
- 1493
- 02:25:05,358 --> 02:25:09,191
- Why did you start
- coming to my basketball matches?
- 1494
- 02:25:11,275 --> 02:25:13,941
- It wasn't a coincidence, was it?
- 1495
- 02:25:19,525 --> 02:25:22,483
- No, it wasn't a coincidence.
- 1496
- 02:25:26,275 --> 02:25:28,941
- I didn't tell you because I...
- 1497
- 02:25:29,108 --> 02:25:32,108
- I thought you'd be upset...
- 1498
- 02:25:33,483 --> 02:25:36,358
- and that you'd get angry at me.
- 1499
- 02:25:36,525 --> 02:25:39,025
- I won't get angry-
- 1500
- 02:25:43,566 --> 02:25:45,691
- What I do...
- 1501
- 02:25:47,233 --> 02:25:49,900
- My job isn't a normal job.
- 1502
- 02:25:50,066 --> 02:25:52,191
- It's not legal.
- 1503
- 02:25:52,358 --> 02:25:55,233
- No one in my family
- does anything legal.
- 1504
- 02:26:00,900 --> 02:26:05,316
- A man that's helped me in my business
- suggested that I watched you.
- 1505
- 02:26:08,233 --> 02:26:12,525
- The plan was that I...
- I should look at you
- 1506
- 02:26:12,691 --> 02:26:16,983
- to see whether one day I could
- use you in my work.
- 1507
- 02:26:17,150 --> 02:26:20,108
- I should make friends with you
- 1508
- 02:26:20,275 --> 02:26:23,483
- because I knew you didn't
- have a mother or a father.
- 1509
- 02:26:23,650 --> 02:26:25,483
- What's wrong with that?
- 1510
- 02:26:25,650 --> 02:26:29,233
- Don't you see
- how evil that plan was?
- 1511
- 02:26:29,400 --> 02:26:33,108
- I felt terrible.
- - You shouldn't have.
- 1512
- 02:26:33,275 --> 02:26:35,233
- Why not?
- 1513
- 02:26:38,025 --> 02:26:40,441
- Because if you hadn't...
- 1514
- 02:26:42,400 --> 02:26:44,650
- we'd never have met.
- 1515
- 02:26:49,441 --> 02:26:53,650
- I'd like to go with you
- to work next time.
- 1516
- 02:26:53,816 --> 02:26:55,233
- No.
- 1517
- 02:27:04,275 --> 02:27:05,816
- Will you think about it?
- 1518
- 02:27:05,983 --> 02:27:07,358
- No.
- - Yes.
- 1519
- 02:27:07,525 --> 02:27:08,566
- No.
- - Yes.
- 1520
- 02:27:08,983 --> 02:27:11,900
- She didn't take no
- for an answer.
- 1521
- 02:27:12,066 --> 02:27:14,316
- No, of course not.
- 1522
- 02:27:14,483 --> 02:27:17,900
- How do you keep a wave
- upon the sand?
- 1523
- 02:27:20,191 --> 02:27:25,691
- And in the throes of love,
- I was weak and no match for her.
- 1524
- 02:27:28,775 --> 02:27:32,400
- With the risk
- of being too clever for myself,
- 1525
- 02:27:32,566 --> 02:27:37,025
- social inheritance
- is an irrefutable fact.
- 1526
- 02:27:38,400 --> 02:27:42,650
- If anyone knew about the laws
- of the street, it must've been P.
- 1527
- 02:27:43,858 --> 02:27:47,566
- You're more right than you know.
- 1528
- 02:28:07,609 --> 02:28:10,026
- Let's shoot the fucker.
- - No, no!
- 1529
- 02:28:10,192 --> 02:28:13,317
- Stop! Stop!
- 1530
- 02:28:16,692 --> 02:28:19,067
- We don't use firearms.
- 1531
- 02:28:20,234 --> 02:28:24,026
- I'd like to have the gun.
- - The others have weapons, too.
- 1532
- 02:28:25,484 --> 02:28:27,026
- Well, I didn't know that,
- 1533
- 02:28:27,192 --> 02:28:29,109
- but in any case,
- you're not to have one.
- 1534
- 02:28:30,234 --> 02:28:31,901
- But guns aren't dangerous.
- 1535
- 02:28:32,067 --> 02:28:34,484
- It depends on how you use them.
- 1536
- 02:28:34,651 --> 02:28:36,109
- Yes, exactly.
- 1537
- 02:28:36,276 --> 02:28:37,776
- I wasn't going to shoot him.
- 1538
- 02:28:38,817 --> 02:28:40,984
- We wouldn't have gotten
- any money out of him that way.
- 1539
- 02:28:41,151 --> 02:28:43,026
- Can I have the gun?
- 1540
- 02:28:47,651 --> 02:28:49,359
- Thank you.
- 1541
- 02:29:08,901 --> 02:29:10,942
- You're evil.
- 1542
- 02:29:14,942 --> 02:29:19,026
- And now I'm afraid
- one of those coincidences
- 1543
- 02:29:19,192 --> 02:29:24,359
- you have such a hard time with
- occurred with a very special person.
- 1544
- 02:29:25,609 --> 02:29:28,276
- It was P's job to take us
- to the debtors,
- 1545
- 02:29:28,442 --> 02:29:30,567
- so until I saw the name
- on the door,
- 1546
- 02:29:30,692 --> 02:29:33,067
- I had no idea
- whose house we were at.
- 1547
- 02:29:35,442 --> 02:29:39,901
- This is Acer siccharium.
- 1548
- 02:29:40,067 --> 02:29:42,484
- Saccharinum.
- - Saccharinum, yeah, that.
- 1549
- 02:29:42,651 --> 02:29:43,817
- I said that.
- 1550
- 02:29:52,942 --> 02:29:54,776
- Are you sure
- this is the right place?
- 1551
- 02:29:54,942 --> 02:29:55,692
- Yeah.
- 1552
- 02:30:02,776 --> 02:30:08,442
- I was thinking maybe it's time for
- you to do this one on your own.
- 1553
- 02:30:09,359 --> 02:30:10,651
- Yeah?
- 1554
- 02:30:12,567 --> 02:30:15,567
- Thank you, Joe.
- - I don't want anything destroyed,
- 1555
- 02:30:16,526 --> 02:30:18,817
- and I don't want anybody hurt.
- 1556
- 02:30:18,984 --> 02:30:24,234
- Okay? You just show yourself and
- offer him a reasonable payment plan.
- 1557
- 02:30:24,401 --> 02:30:29,026
- If you say so, of course
- that's how I'll do it.
- 1558
- 02:30:44,276 --> 02:30:46,859
- Whether the feeling
- when I saw Jerome again was love,
- 1559
- 02:30:47,026 --> 02:30:48,651
- I couldn't say.
- 1560
- 02:30:51,609 --> 02:30:54,192
- But it was a feeling...
- 1561
- 02:30:54,359 --> 02:30:57,067
- and far stronger than I liked.
- 1562
- 02:31:08,276 --> 02:31:12,192
- I was actually
- walking home through the alley here.
- 1563
- 02:31:12,359 --> 02:31:14,651
- Your two neighborhoods
- are totally different,
- 1564
- 02:31:14,817 --> 02:31:18,192
- but still so close together
- that the shortest route
- 1565
- 02:31:18,359 --> 02:31:22,359
- from Jerome's house towards
- the center was through the alley.
- 1566
- 02:31:29,317 --> 02:31:31,317
- Hello!
- 1567
- 02:31:31,484 --> 02:31:35,359
- How did it go?
- - Brilliant.
- 1568
- 02:31:35,567 --> 02:31:38,651
- Yeah, really well.
- 1569
- 02:31:38,817 --> 02:31:41,401
- I made a reasonable payment plan
- like you told me to.
- 1570
- 02:31:41,567 --> 02:31:46,442
- How did he look?
- - Scared.
- 1571
- 02:31:46,609 --> 02:31:48,984
- How old did he look?
- 1572
- 02:31:49,151 --> 02:31:52,484
- I don't know. Ancient?
- 1573
- 02:32:12,317 --> 02:32:16,067
- Jerome was to pay
- off his debt in six payments.
- 1574
- 02:32:16,234 --> 02:32:18,984
- Every time P
- went to Jerome to collect,
- 1575
- 02:32:19,151 --> 02:32:23,901
- I'd pace around restlessly
- until she was back home again.
- 1576
- 02:32:26,192 --> 02:32:29,485
- I even had to find my mother's
- sad old solitaire cards
- 1577
- 02:32:29,652 --> 02:32:32,693
- in order to make the hours pass.
- 1578
- 02:32:40,110 --> 02:32:41,985
- Each night I was less reassured
- 1579
- 02:32:42,152 --> 02:32:45,193
- by her coming home
- than the night before.
- 1580
- 02:32:45,360 --> 02:32:48,610
- The question of whether jealousy is
- the fear of sharing
- 1581
- 02:32:48,777 --> 02:32:52,068
- or the fear of losing
- was of little interest to me.
- 1582
- 02:32:52,235 --> 02:32:55,360
- But yes, it was a fact
- that this unworthy feeling
- 1583
- 02:32:55,527 --> 02:33:00,235
- I had managed to suppress
- for so long was creeping up on me.
- 1584
- 02:33:03,068 --> 02:33:05,818
- The evening she was
- to collect the final payment,
- 1585
- 02:33:05,985 --> 02:33:07,818
- she didn't kiss me.
- 1586
- 02:33:07,985 --> 02:33:10,318
- I took it to be forgetfulness,
- 1587
- 02:33:10,485 --> 02:33:14,402
- but the hours passed,
- and she didn't return.
- 1588
- 02:33:21,485 --> 02:33:26,693
- Every time I saw car lights,
- I thought it was P being driven home.
- 1589
- 02:34:25,235 --> 02:34:27,318
- So the next morning I took a trip
- 1590
- 02:34:27,485 --> 02:34:30,652
- to the round hills
- just outside of town
- 1591
- 02:34:30,818 --> 02:34:34,193
- that I visited with my school class
- when I was 12,
- 1592
- 02:34:34,360 --> 02:34:37,818
- to say a symbolic goodbye.
- 1593
- 02:34:41,443 --> 02:34:44,152
- I had decided to flee.
- 1594
- 02:34:44,318 --> 02:34:48,818
- I couldn't stay in this town
- with her and him.
- 1595
- 02:34:48,985 --> 02:34:53,277
- I had cowardly made a plan
- to escape and head south.
- 1596
- 02:34:53,443 --> 02:34:54,777
- Like from some ice age
- 1597
- 02:34:54,943 --> 02:34:58,110
- I didn't have the guts
- to turn around and face.
- 1598
- 02:34:59,277 --> 02:35:03,485
- But the goodbye was sad
- and strangely unfulfilling.
- 1599
- 02:35:03,652 --> 02:35:07,610
- And something called me on to
- seek further up the mountain.
- 1600
- 02:36:31,152 --> 02:36:33,735
- I understand dictators
- who commit murder.
- 1601
- 02:36:36,693 --> 02:36:39,568
- What was Hitler,
- when it all boils down,
- 1602
- 02:36:39,735 --> 02:36:43,735
- other than a man to whom society
- gave free reins?
- 1603
- 02:36:46,277 --> 02:36:49,568
- Well, that was
- just what we were missing.
- 1604
- 02:36:49,735 --> 02:36:53,568
- You understand racists,
- you have a soft spot for pedophiles,
- 1605
- 02:36:53,735 --> 02:36:56,652
- and, of course,
- now at the finishing line,
- 1606
- 02:36:56,818 --> 02:36:58,568
- you have to sympathize
- 1607
- 02:36:58,735 --> 02:37:01,361
- with the greatest mass
- murderers of history.
- 1608
- 02:37:01,528 --> 02:37:03,778
- What I mean is...
- 1609
- 02:37:05,444 --> 02:37:07,986
- It's said to be difficult
- to take someone's life.
- 1610
- 02:37:08,194 --> 02:37:12,028
- I would've said
- that it's more difficult not to
- 1611
- 02:37:12,194 --> 02:37:15,986
- when, as a dictator or as me,
- 1612
- 02:37:16,153 --> 02:37:18,528
- you've nothing to lose.
- 1613
- 02:37:20,861 --> 02:37:22,111
- For a human being,
- 1614
- 02:37:22,278 --> 02:37:25,486
- killing is the most
- natural thing in the world.
- 1615
- 02:37:25,653 --> 02:37:27,903
- We're created for it.
- 1616
- 02:37:30,361 --> 02:37:32,028
- Wonderful.
- 1617
- 02:38:22,736 --> 02:38:24,278
- No, get off!
- 1618
- 02:38:34,486 --> 02:38:36,653
- Fireman's grip.
- 1619
- 02:42:22,654 --> 02:42:27,195
- Fill all my holes, please.
- 1620
- 02:42:51,862 --> 02:42:54,612
- I still don't know
- why the gun didn't work.
- 1621
- 02:42:54,779 --> 02:42:59,279
- I did check to make sure that there
- were bullets in the magazine.
- 1622
- 02:42:59,445 --> 02:43:02,112
- It simply malfunctioned.
- 1623
- 02:43:02,279 --> 02:43:04,862
- Just like Bond's Beretta.
- 1624
- 02:43:05,029 --> 02:43:08,112
- I think I know enough to say
- that even if you had rounds
- 1625
- 02:43:08,279 --> 02:43:10,279
- in the magazine
- of the Walther PPK,
- 1626
- 02:43:10,445 --> 02:43:13,945
- if you'd taken off the safety,
- 1627
- 02:43:14,112 --> 02:43:16,862
- you cannot shoot
- until you've racked the gun.
- 1628
- 02:43:17,820 --> 02:43:20,195
- You pull and release
- 1629
- 02:43:20,362 --> 02:43:22,612
- the sliding mechanism.
- 1630
- 02:43:22,820 --> 02:43:24,820
- And P hadn't done it
- because as she said,
- 1631
- 02:43:24,987 --> 02:43:27,612
- she had no intention
- of shooting the man.
- 1632
- 02:43:29,779 --> 02:43:32,779
- I don't know about Bond,
- but I assume it has to be apparent
- 1633
- 02:43:32,945 --> 02:43:34,445
- from his books and his films
- 1634
- 02:43:34,612 --> 02:43:38,904
- that you have
- to rack an automatic pistol.
- 1635
- 02:43:40,195 --> 02:43:41,904
- Of course, you're right.
- 1636
- 02:43:42,904 --> 02:43:46,570
- I've seen it in films
- a thousand times.
- 1637
- 02:43:51,487 --> 02:43:52,654
- It's morning.
- 1638
- 02:43:55,279 --> 02:43:58,904
- The snow is gone.
- - So the sun must be up?
- 1639
- 02:44:00,112 --> 02:44:02,029
- Yes, there is sun.
- 1640
- 02:44:03,362 --> 02:44:05,320
- How can you see it?
- 1641
- 02:44:06,362 --> 02:44:10,945
- This alley's located so that you
- never get direct sunlight here,
- 1642
- 02:44:11,112 --> 02:44:15,612
- but I can see a small reflection
- on the building on the other side.
- 1643
- 02:44:22,362 --> 02:44:26,154
- I've never managed to figure
- out where it comes from.
- 1644
- 02:44:26,945 --> 02:44:31,862
- It must be some interplay
- between windows and towers
- 1645
- 02:44:32,029 --> 02:44:35,154
- and high buildings.
- 1646
- 02:44:37,779 --> 02:44:42,904
- It's not much, but it's the sun
- you get here at my place.
- 1647
- 02:44:47,029 --> 02:44:48,779
- It's beautiful.
- 1648
- 02:44:58,945 --> 02:45:00,154
- In the beginning,
- 1649
- 02:45:00,320 --> 02:45:02,154
- you said that your only sin
- 1650
- 02:45:02,320 --> 02:45:05,487
- was that you asked
- more of the sunset.
- 1651
- 02:45:07,070 --> 02:45:11,029
- Meaning, I suppose, that you wanted
- more from life than was good for you.
- 1652
- 02:45:13,737 --> 02:45:17,445
- You were a human being
- demanding your right,
- 1653
- 02:45:17,612 --> 02:45:19,154
- and more than that,
- 1654
- 02:45:19,320 --> 02:45:22,695
- you were a woman
- demanding her right.
- 1655
- 02:45:25,987 --> 02:45:28,695
- Does that pardon everything?
- 1656
- 02:45:30,070 --> 02:45:34,154
- Do you think if two men were to
- walk down a train looking for women,
- 1657
- 02:45:34,904 --> 02:45:38,070
- do you think anybody would have
- raised an eyebrow,
- 1658
- 02:45:38,279 --> 02:45:41,112
- or if a man had led the life you had?
- 1659
- 02:45:42,779 --> 02:45:47,362
- And the story about Mrs. H.
- would've been extremely banal
- 1660
- 02:45:47,529 --> 02:45:48,862
- if you'd been a man.
- 1661
- 02:45:50,070 --> 02:45:52,612
- And your conquest
- would have been a woman.
- 1662
- 02:45:53,612 --> 02:45:58,237
- When a man leaves his children
- because of desire,
- 1663
- 02:45:58,904 --> 02:46:01,695
- we accept it with a shrug,
- but you as a woman,
- 1664
- 02:46:02,154 --> 02:46:04,613
- you had to take on a guilt,
- 1665
- 02:46:04,946 --> 02:46:07,363
- a burden of guilt
- that could never be alleviated.
- 1666
- 02:46:11,363 --> 02:46:14,821
- Your abortion was legal,
- but more than anything else,
- 1667
- 02:46:14,988 --> 02:46:18,988
- it was a punishment
- you inflicted upon yourself.
- 1668
- 02:46:20,113 --> 02:46:23,363
- And all in all,
- all the blame and guilt
- 1669
- 02:46:23,530 --> 02:46:26,071
- that piled up over the years
- became too much for you,
- 1670
- 02:46:26,238 --> 02:46:28,238
- and you reacted aggressively,
- 1671
- 02:46:28,405 --> 02:46:31,405
- almost like a man, I have to say,
- and you fought back.
- 1672
- 02:46:32,696 --> 02:46:34,071
- You fought back
- against the gender
- 1673
- 02:46:34,238 --> 02:46:38,363
- that had been oppressing
- and mutilating and killing you
- 1674
- 02:46:38,530 --> 02:46:43,030
- and billions of women
- in the name of religion or ethics,
- 1675
- 02:46:43,196 --> 02:46:46,446
- or God knows what.
- 1676
- 02:46:49,488 --> 02:46:52,405
- But I wanted
- to kill a human being.
- 1677
- 02:46:55,821 --> 02:46:57,821
- But you didn't.
- 1678
- 02:46:59,780 --> 02:47:02,196
- Because of a chance event.
- 1679
- 02:47:02,363 --> 02:47:04,405
- You call it a chance event,
- 1680
- 02:47:05,905 --> 02:47:08,696
- I call it subconscious resistance.
- 1681
- 02:47:08,863 --> 02:47:11,113
- On the surface you wanted to kill,
- 1682
- 02:47:11,946 --> 02:47:14,363
- but deep down,
- you celebrated human worth
- 1683
- 02:47:15,405 --> 02:47:17,113
- in a veil of forgetfulness
- 1684
- 02:47:17,280 --> 02:47:21,780
- draped itself over your
- knowledge of how to rack a gun.
- 1685
- 02:47:24,155 --> 02:47:26,446
- Although all this
- sounds frighteningly close
- 1686
- 02:47:26,613 --> 02:47:29,571
- to the clichés of our times...
- 1687
- 02:47:29,738 --> 02:47:34,696
- and I'm predisposed to knock
- holes in your arguments...
- 1688
- 02:47:36,363 --> 02:47:38,530
- I'm too tired.
- 1689
- 02:47:38,696 --> 02:47:39,988
- Well, that's good.
- 1690
- 02:47:43,571 --> 02:47:45,613
- Why don't you lay down?
- 1691
- 02:47:47,905 --> 02:47:49,696
- Yes.
- 1692
- 02:48:01,030 --> 02:48:03,696
- Let me just say that
- telling my story
- 1693
- 02:48:04,738 --> 02:48:07,738
- as you insisted, or permitted,
- 1694
- 02:48:09,613 --> 02:48:12,238
- has put me at ease.
- 1695
- 02:48:13,738 --> 02:48:19,488
- At this moment,
- my addiction is very clear to me.
- 1696
- 02:48:21,863 --> 02:48:23,780
- And I've come to a decision.
- 1697
- 02:48:26,321 --> 02:48:33,030
- Even though only one in a million,
- as my dubious therapist said,
- 1698
- 02:48:34,280 --> 02:48:38,488
- succeed in mentally,
- 1699
- 02:48:38,655 --> 02:48:40,863
- bodily,
- 1700
- 02:48:41,030 --> 02:48:43,238
- and in her heart
- 1701
- 02:48:43,405 --> 02:48:48,571
- ridding herself
- of her sexuality...
- 1702
- 02:48:48,738 --> 02:48:51,280
- this is now my goal.
- 1703
- 02:48:52,030 --> 02:48:55,030
- But is that a life worth living?
- 1704
- 02:48:57,738 --> 02:49:00,738
- It's the only way I can live it.
- 1705
- 02:49:04,571 --> 02:49:08,363
- I will stand up against all odds...
- 1706
- 02:49:12,988 --> 02:49:16,405
- just like a deformed tree on a hill.
- 1707
- 02:49:24,488 --> 02:49:28,988
- I will muster
- all of my stubbornness...
- 1708
- 02:49:32,488 --> 02:49:34,655
- my strength...
- 1709
- 02:49:36,863 --> 02:49:39,571
- my masculine aggression.
- 1710
- 02:49:41,863 --> 02:49:45,446
- But most of all I want
- to say thanks
- 1711
- 02:49:45,613 --> 02:49:50,238
- to my new and maybe first friend.
- 1712
- 02:49:50,405 --> 02:49:53,280
- Thank you, Seligman...
- 1713
- 02:49:54,946 --> 02:49:58,321
- who perhaps is happy
- when all is said and done.
- 1714
- 02:50:05,405 --> 02:50:07,988
- I'm happy at any rate
- 1715
- 02:50:08,155 --> 02:50:10,238
- that the shot didn't go off
- 1716
- 02:50:10,405 --> 02:50:13,155
- and made me a murderer.
- 1717
- 02:50:18,821 --> 02:50:21,613
- If I may, I'd like to sleep now.
- 1718
- 02:50:25,655 --> 02:50:28,280
- I'll make sure
- you won't be disturbed.
- 1719
- 02:50:31,280 --> 02:50:34,488
- And when you wake up,
- maybe we could
- 1720
- 02:50:34,655 --> 02:50:37,739
- discuss your future if you'd like.
- 1721
- 02:50:46,572 --> 02:50:49,989
- In your new life,
- 1722
- 02:50:50,156 --> 02:50:52,864
- would you consider
- seeking out your son?
- 1723
- 02:50:55,697 --> 02:50:57,697
- It's possible.
- 1724
- 02:51:02,031 --> 02:51:04,114
- Good night, Joe.
- 1725
- 02:51:05,489 --> 02:51:07,364
- Good night, Seligman.
- 1726
- 02:52:47,489 --> 02:52:49,197
- No!
- 1727
- 02:52:51,531 --> 02:52:54,281
- But you,
- you fucked thousands of men.
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