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  1. Manips: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uFfEQHaEAXk6lhYgMsM0JCCmV4P3nDVYPDRboR368LQ/edit?usp=sharing
  2. Defensive Ranges: https://pastebin.com/1KwybhYA
  3.  
  4. This guide assumes that you know how to beat the game normally and are somewhat familiar with a recent Any% Glitchless Route.
  5.  
  6. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  7. Nido
  8. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  9.  
  10. PC Potion
  11.  
  12. Rival 1: TW + Tackle Spam
  13. (Check special stat at L6. 11 = bad 12 = good special, reset bad special unless bulba faints under 2:40)
  14.  
  15. Route 1 NPC Potion, Oak’s Parcel Quest
  16. KO a L2 or L3 Rat or L2 bird.
  17.  
  18. Get hidden tree Potion and forest Pokeball
  19. Go back and do Nido Manip
  20.  
  21. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  22. Brock
  23. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  24. Forest antidote
  25. Forest potion
  26. Hidden Weedle Guy Pot
  27.  
  28. Swap Nido and Squirtle before Brock.
  29. 1-14 hp potion Squirtle (this is to avoid having to heal in the fight and saves potions overall)
  30.  
  31. Brock: swap train nido like normal.
  32.  
  33. Change options to Set before leaving Brock's gym.
  34.  
  35. if Squirtle has 9+ hp leaving Brock ignore the following note and play normally.
  36.  
  37. (note: if Squirtle is under 9 hp, shorts guy's rat can one shot you easily, so
  38. one option is to swap in Squirtle on BC1's caterpie to get some tail whips in
  39. you can either lead with Squirtle or swap to Squirtle on turn 1)
  40.  
  41. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  42. Route 3 // we'd like to have ~8 HAs left leaving route 3, but we can continue with fewer
  43. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  44.  
  45. BC1
  46. Caterpie: Leer + HAx2 + (Tackle)
  47. Weedle: Leer + Tacklex3
  48. Caterpie: Leer + HA + Tackle
  49.  
  50. Swap Nido and Squirtle.
  51. [Potion Nido if < 18 hp. toss (antidote +) TM34 if healing]
  52.  
  53. Shorts Guy
  54.  
  55. Rat: TWx2 + Tackle until Squirtle faints
  56. HA + Tackle
  57. Ekans: Leer + HAx2
  58.  
  59. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  60. Route 3 [con’t] // we'd like to have 8 HAs leaving route 3
  61. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  62.  
  63. BC2
  64. Weedle: HA + Tackle
  65. Kakuna: HAx2-3+Tackle
  66. Caterpie: HA + HA(Tackle)
  67. Metapod: HAx2 + Tackle.
  68.  
  69. (Swap Nido and Squirtle back)
  70. Toss TM34 Bide and potion nido if neeeded
  71. [pot 1-18, 19 - 21 if playing safe]
  72.  
  73. Lass:
  74. Rat: HA + Tackle
  75. NidoM: HAx2 (If HA crits, finish with Tackle)
  76.  
  77. BC3
  78. PS spam
  79.  
  80. Must KO one route 3 encounter (not a L3 or L7 puff)
  81. HA L5 Puff, but Tackle + PS or Tacklex2 on other encounters
  82. HA Pidgeys if you can, L8 Pidg might be better to run from.
  83.  
  84. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  85. 1st floor Mt. Moon
  86. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  87.  
  88. Manip First Floor:
  89. Moon Manip w/potions v2 - 50/60 IGT
  90. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aX5c3mvCq25T_5rn1fHqyC1RqeqWpaplZzRlPLm68uw/edit?usp=sharing
  91.  
  92. Menu before 2nd floor backup Paras Manip:
  93. (pot if it heals a full 20)
  94.  
  95.  
  96. Ladder Menu:
  97. Slot 3 - Rare Candy
  98. Slot 2 - TM12 teach over Tackle (slot 2)
  99. Slot 3 - Moon Stone
  100. Slot 2 - TM01 teach over Leer (slot 1)
  101.  
  102.  
  103. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  104. 2nd floor Mt. Moon
  105. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  106. followed by _PoY's 2nd floor backup (skip 2nd A press for no paras encounter)
  107. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/88072681710161920/268704307468042241/MtMoonManip3.png
  108. *Or KO the Paras and one more encounter for better ranges on Bridge/Misty split
  109.  
  110. Moon Rocket
  111. Rat: MP
  112. Zubat: MP + (PS)
  113.  
  114. Super Nerd
  115. Grimer: MP + WG + (PS)
  116. Voltorb: MP + (PS) (note: HA + PS is 100%)
  117. Koffing: HA + MP (if HA crits use WG turn2) (lead MP if less than 7 HAs)
  118.  
  119. Menu to save for Spearow manip.
  120. Slot 1 - Potion x 0-2
  121. Spearow Manip (great ball pickup)
  122.  
  123. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  124. Bridge (Part 1)
  125. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  126.  
  127. Get instant text, get the rare candy.
  128.  
  129. Bridge Rival
  130. Pidgeotto: HAx3
  131. Abra: PSx2
  132. Rat: MP (WGx2 + (PS), if sand atk hit)
  133. Bulba: MP + HA (if MP crits finish with PS)
  134.  
  135. Caterpie : MP (PSx2 if low)
  136. Weedle : WGx2 (MP is faster)
  137.  
  138. Pidgey: MP + (PS)
  139. NidoF: HA + WG + (PS) (WGx3 if low or MP + WG )
  140.  
  141. Rat: MP
  142. Ekans: MP
  143. Zubat: HA
  144.  
  145.  
  146. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  147. Bridge (Part 2)
  148. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  149.  
  150. Pidgey: MP + (PS)
  151. NidoF: MP + WG (WGx3 + PS if desparate or if MP miss into Growl
  152. HA + WG + (PS) if HA good and MP bad)
  153.  
  154. Mankey: HA + (WG or PS)
  155. 1-14 MP
  156.  
  157. Ekans: MP
  158. Zubat: HA
  159.  
  160. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  161. Route 25
  162. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  163.  
  164. fight Top Hiker
  165. Machop: HA + WG
  166. Geodude: WG
  167.  
  168. Pickup hidden Elixer
  169.  
  170. fight Bottom Hiker
  171. Onix - WG
  172.  
  173. NidoM - MP (HA (+PS), WGx2 (+WG) )
  174. NidoF - HA + WG (or MP + WG, or WGx3)
  175.  
  176. Geodude - WG
  177. Geodude - WG
  178. Machop - MP + (PS) ( or HA + PS or WGx2 + (PS))
  179. Teach Thrash over slot 4 PS
  180. (optional: Swap slot 2 WG and Thrash for sanity)
  181. Geodude - WG
  182.  
  183. Oddish - Thrash
  184.  
  185. Skip the Ether
  186.  
  187. Bill's get the S.S. Ticket, then walk to Misty’s Gym.
  188.  
  189. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  190. Misty
  191. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  192. Goldeen : Thrash
  193.  
  194. Post-Goldeen Menu
  195.  
  196. Slot 1 - Potion x2-3 on Nido (We want to be ~50+ hp ideally)
  197. Slot 2 - Use Rare Candy (in slot 3 if 1 pot left)
  198.  
  199. Misty: Thrash
  200.  
  201. Post-Misty MENU
  202. Slot 1 - Potionx0-1
  203. Slot 5 - teach TM11 over Water Gun
  204. Get IT again.
  205.  
  206. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  207. Boat
  208. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  209.  
  210. Dig Rocket: Thrash
  211. Get TM28
  212.  
  213. Pickup the hidden FR.
  214.  
  215. Jr. TrainerF: Thrash
  216. Jr. TrainerM: Thrash
  217.  
  218. Enter the boat and go right. Take the stairs.
  219. Enter the first door and get Max Potion.
  220. Exit and head back up towards the entrance of the boat.
  221.  
  222. Enter the TM08 room
  223. ( 4th door left of Entrance, below npc pacing in hallway )
  224.  
  225. Thrash the trainer guarding the item ball
  226. Get TM08.
  227. *Optional: Thrash the Lass
  228.  
  229. Exit left, take the stairs.
  230.  
  231. Enter (2nd door) Just fight the right side trainer.
  232.  
  233. Fisherman:
  234. Goldeen : Thrash
  235. Tentacool :
  236. Goldeen :
  237.  
  238. Exit and then enter 2 more doors down
  239.  
  240. Gentleman Candy Trainer (4th door)
  241. Growlithe: Thrash
  242. Ponyta:
  243.  
  244. Get the Rare Candy
  245.  
  246. Exit and walk right.
  247.  
  248. Boat Rival:
  249. Bird: BBx2 (lead HA if you can, unless L28 BB is just as good of a ohko)
  250. (swap to Spearow if sanded) (situationally with L28, thrash turn 1)
  251.  
  252. Rat: BB if 20+, otherwise HA if you can 80% range, or MP if you can
  253. Kadabra: Thrash
  254. Ivy:
  255.  
  256. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  257. Surge
  258. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  259. Get HM01 Cut and exit boat.
  260. Get the Bike Voucher.
  261. Trade Spearow for DUX.
  262.  
  263.  
  264. Cut Menu
  265.  
  266. Slot 5 - Teach TM28 to Squirtle(up1)
  267. Slot 2 - Swap Nugget down6 with Rare Candy
  268. down1 - Teach HM01 to DUX(down1)
  269. up2 - Teach TM08 to Nido(down1 to wrap around)
  270.  
  271. If you have potion(s) left:
  272.  
  273. Slot 1 - Swap Potions down5 with TM28
  274. down2 - teach TM08 to nido
  275. Slot 1 - teach TM28 to Squirtle
  276. Slot 2 - Swap Nugget down6 with Rare Candy
  277. down1 - Teach HM01 to DUX
  278.  
  279.  
  280. Cut the tree and manip cans.
  281.  
  282. Surge
  283. Voltorb : BS (21-24 BB if bad pace) (25+ BBx2)
  284. Pikachu : Thrash
  285. Raichu:
  286.  
  287. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  288. Fly
  289. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  290. Leave and Cut the tree and walk North to the bike shop.
  291.  
  292. Pickup hidden X-special.
  293.  
  294. Get the bike.
  295.  
  296. Bike Menu
  297.  
  298. Slot 1 - Swap Helix with down10 Bike (3 below HM01)
  299. upby 2 - Teach TM24 over HA
  300.  
  301. ----------------------------------------
  302.  
  303. 4 Turn: BSx4
  304. Veno : BSx3
  305.  
  306. Pickup the hidden Super Potion
  307. See defensive ranges to setup red bar.
  308.  
  309. Pokemaniac1
  310. Cubone: BB
  311. Slowpoke1: TB
  312. Pokemaniac2
  313. Slowpoke2: TB
  314.  
  315. *Either talk to or step directly in front of Oddish Girl if doing the manip
  316.  
  317. Oddish: BSx2
  318.  
  319. No encounter manip. https://pastebin.com/Vj21fub6
  320.  
  321. Hiker: BBx3
  322. Lass: BSx4
  323. Get Max Ether
  324. Gambler:
  325. pupper: BB
  326. fox: BS
  327.  
  328. Get underground Elixer
  329. Stairs up to buy a Fresh Water, take stairs back down.
  330. Exit the mart cut the tree and get HM02.
  331.  
  332. Fly Menu
  333.  
  334. Slot 7 - Swap Nugget down5 with Super Potion
  335. down 3 - HM02 to DUX
  336. up 2 - Max Ether on BS (pls do NOT use Fresh Water)
  337. Fly to Celadon
  338.  
  339. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  340. Gamecorner
  341. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  342.  
  343. Bike to the game corner.
  344.  
  345. Poster Rocket:
  346. Rat: BS
  347. Zubat: BS
  348.  
  349. Key Rocket:
  350. Koffing: TB + BS
  351. Zubat: BS
  352.  
  353. Pickup Lift Key
  354. Get Rare Candy
  355. Get TM07
  356.  
  357. Right Rocket:
  358. Ekans: BS
  359. Sandshrew: BB
  360. Arbok: BSx2
  361.  
  362. Left Rocket:
  363. Sandshrew: BB
  364. Ekans: BS
  365. Sandslash: BB
  366.  
  367. If under 21 hp
  368. Menu
  369. Slot 6 - Use Max Potion on Nido.
  370. *Slot 6 - Use Potion instead if you have it
  371.  
  372. Giovanni:
  373. Onix: BB
  374. Rhyhorn: BB
  375. Kangaskhan: TBx2
  376.  
  377. Pickup the silph scope
  378. Pickup the hidden super potion.
  379. Dig out and Fly to Lavender.
  380.  
  381. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  382. Lavender Tower
  383. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  384. Rival:
  385. Bird: TB
  386. Gyarados: TB
  387. Growlithe: BS
  388. Kadabra: Thrash
  389. Ivy:
  390.  
  391. If you haven’t already
  392. Menu
  393. Slot 6 - Use Max Potion on Nido.
  394.  
  395. Tbolt the gastly, finish with BB
  396. Haunter TBx2
  397. We have Full Restore in Slot 5 and two super potions in slot 6
  398. May RNG be in your favor.
  399.  
  400. Get both Elixer
  401.  
  402. Get X Acc and then use Elixer on nido
  403.  
  404. finish last two gastly
  405.  
  406. Marowak: BB + (BB)
  407.  
  408. Rocket Grunt: BSx2 + TB
  409. Rocket Grunt: TB (+BS) + BS
  410. Rocket Grunt: BSx4
  411.  
  412. Get Pokeflute and fly to Celadon
  413.  
  414. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  415. Cycling Road and Safari Zone
  416. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  417.  
  418. Snorlax Menu
  419. *Slot 6 - (Super) Potion once if under 40 hp (under 55 hp to be extra safe)
  420.  
  421. Slot 14 - Teach TM07 over Thrash slot2 (3 Below Fresh Water)
  422. Slot 4 - S.S. Ticket down12 X Accuracy (2 below S.S Ticket)
  423. down1 - Use Poke Flute
  424.  
  425.  
  426. get Rare Candy (pick up from the side for fewer grass tiles)
  427.  
  428. Get Full Restore
  429. Get Gold Teeth
  430. Get TM32 (or hidden statue revive) - *skip if you still have a potion
  431. Get HM03
  432. Dig out and fly to Celadon.
  433.  
  434. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  435. Silph Co.
  436. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  437. Bike to
  438. Silph Co:
  439. Go to 10F
  440.  
  441. Machoke: TBx2 (+ BB)
  442.  
  443. Pickup Carbos
  444. Pickup TM26
  445. Pickup Rare Candy
  446.  
  447. Go down to 9F
  448. Walk to bottom right and take pad.
  449.  
  450. Arbok Menu
  451.  
  452. Slot 2 - Use 3 Rare Candies on Nido.
  453. down5 - swap HM01 down12 to Carbos (4 below Poke Flute)
  454. down 1 - teach TM26 over BS slot1
  455. Slot 7 - Use Carbos
  456.  
  457.  
  458. Arbok: EQ
  459. Get key
  460. Take pad twice and go up from grunt
  461.  
  462. Pickup HPUP
  463. *Go get the X-Acc (Most bottom Left Item)
  464. *Get ELix on way back
  465.  
  466. (first stair both times)
  467.  
  468. Rival: X Acc+HD x5
  469.  
  470. Cubone: BB
  471. Drowzee: EQ
  472. Marow: BB
  473.  
  474. Giovanni:
  475. Nidorino: EQ
  476. Kangaskhan: TB + (TB or BB also KO turn 2)
  477. Rhyhorn: BB (TB stall at 26 - 39 HP)
  478. Nidoqueen: EQ
  479.  
  480. Dig out and Fly to Fuschia.
  481.  
  482. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  483. Koga & Sabrina
  484. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  485.  
  486. Koga:
  487. Juggler: EQx4
  488. Juggler: EQ + EQ(+BB) 80.7% range on Hypno
  489.  
  490. Slot3 - Elixer
  491.  
  492. Koga: EQx3
  493. Weezing:
  494. 1-15 hp use EQ
  495. 16-17 hp use Horn Drill (intentionally a yolo drill here)
  496. 18+ hp BB spam until SD
  497.  
  498.  
  499. Menu Leaving Koga's Gym
  500. Slot2 - use one Rare Candy
  501. Bike
  502.  
  503. Get HM04 and fly to Saffron
  504.  
  505. Sabrina: EQ x4
  506.  
  507. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  508. Mansion
  509. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  510.  
  511. Take the pad and MENU
  512.  
  513. Slot 10 - toss Nugget (2 below X-Special)
  514. Slot 16 - Teach HM03 to Squirtle
  515. down3 - toss HPUP
  516. Dig out to Pallet.
  517.  
  518. Walk to the regular spot.
  519. Surf and then manip no encounters.
  520.  
  521. Mansion:
  522. Get Carbos
  523. Get TM14
  524. Get Both Candies
  525.  
  526. Menu before Key:
  527.  
  528. down6 - swap Helix Fossil down12 TM14 (3 below Card Key)
  529. up2 - Teach HM04 to Squirtle
  530. *be careful here*
  531. down1 - Carbos on Nido
  532.  
  533. Pickup Secret Key, dig out, fly to Cinnabar.
  534.  
  535. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  536. Blaine, Erika, & Giovanni
  537. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  538. Blaine: BB (+BB) + EQx3
  539.  
  540. Menu
  541. Slot 2 - Candyx2 Nido
  542. Slot 3 - Elixer
  543. Dig out
  544.  
  545. Exeggcute: EQ
  546.  
  547. Victreebel: EQ
  548. Tangela: EQ + (BB, EQ turn 2 if Erika Super Potions)
  549. Vileplume: EQ
  550.  
  551. Walk out and fly to Viridian.
  552.  
  553. Jr. Trainer: BB
  554.  
  555. Black Belt:
  556. Machoke:EQ
  557. Machop:TB
  558. Machoke:EQ
  559.  
  560. Giovanni:
  561. Rhyhorn : BB
  562. Dugtrio : EQ
  563. Nidoqueen: EQ
  564. Nidoking: EQ
  565. Rhydon: BB
  566.  
  567. Post Giovanni Menu:
  568. Slot 3 ~Elix
  569. Get on Bike
  570.  
  571. Rival:
  572. Pidg: TB + (BB)
  573. Ryhorn: BB
  574. Gyr: TB
  575. Growlithe: EQ
  576. Zam: EQ
  577. Venu: Slot5 Full Restore Turn 1, then EQx2
  578.  
  579. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  580. Victory Road
  581. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  582.  
  583. *Very important*
  584. KO any wild encounter before Lorelei. Otherwise,
  585. 36 exp short of level from Machamp and L60 Gengar will speed tie us.
  586.  
  587. Optional: Pickup the hidden Full Restore during Badge Check
  588. Pickup the Full Restore in last boulder before exit
  589.  
  590. Lorelei: Swap to Dux, X Acc + HD x5 (this is always the safe play)
  591.  
  592. HP strats:
  593. 1-86: swap to Dux, then X Acc + HD x5
  594. 84-86: consider yolo on bad pace
  595. 87-109: X Acc + Drill x5
  596. 110+: swap to DUX, then X Acc + Drill x5
  597.  
  598. Post Lorelei / Pre-Bruno
  599. Slot 4 - Full Restore ( if needed ) then down3
  600. Slot 7 - Teach TM14 Blizz over Horn Drill slot2
  601.  
  602. Bruno:
  603. Onix: BB
  604. Hitmonchan: Bliz (+TB)
  605. Hitmonlee: EQ+(BB),
  606. Onix: BB
  607. Machamp: EQ x2 (EQ+TB+TB if x Def)
  608.  
  609. Agatha Menu:
  610. Slot 2 - last Candy
  611. Slot 2 - last Elix
  612.  
  613. 1-20 hp heal unless red bar is needed
  614. 21+ hp go in without healing. Full Restore if confused.
  615.  
  616. Agatha: EQ + TBx2 +EQx3
  617.  
  618. Pre-Lance Menu
  619. Slot 2 - Full Restore
  620. Slot 3 - Super Pot (if 125+ hp)
  621. Heal to 175+ (only KO'd by hydro pump crit)
  622.  
  623. Lance:
  624. Gyarados: TB(+TB)
  625. Dragonair: Bliz
  626. Dragonair: FR turn 1 if needed, Bliz
  627. Aero: TBx2
  628. Dragonite: Bliz
  629.  
  630. Slot 2/3 - Full Restore or Super Pot if needed
  631.  
  632. Rival:
  633. Bird: X Spec + TB
  634. Zam: EQ
  635. Rhydon: BB
  636. Gyarados: TB
  637. Arcanine: EQ
  638. Venu: Bliz (+EQ) (or EQx2)
  639.  
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