>>>>>>>>>> your bin on me is about 15 games. 2 of which "aren't suspicious". 1 where i was mafia w/ shamu. many of which were where i died, shamu died, or we both were dead by n1, d1, or n2. your main argument is that he never foses me. read the games, read how many people were fos'ing me on the table. if shamu threw for me then how come i won so many games after he was already dead? did he throw for me in gy too? what about the other 33 games where i played without him?


>>>>>>>>>> out of 15 games where i won, the games where he had direct influence (hammer) on the final result was games: 1,2, and 16.

of the 3 games where shamu mishammered into a win for me and a loss for him -
games 1 and 2 were on the first two days of the round. when i didn't care about winning, wasn't planning on running & barely tried.
game 16 - a blue [snowpuppy] isp'd, outed no reads, and claimed mafia. dead blues in the gy knew snowpuppy would get hammered at some point.


game 3 - shamu died n1.
game 4 - we were both dead before final 3.
game 5 - he died n3 - cop mishammered in final 3 and i won as maf.
game 6 - he died n2. my reports gave town auto.
game 7 - he was lynched d1 bc of guilty test. he outed 2 scumreads, neither were me. nobody else on the table fos'd me.
game 8 - we were both mafia.
game 9 - i sr'd him when he was mafia & i was town, he tried to get me lynched, then i tr'd him rest of game. essa hammered him and town won.
game 10 - shamu orc, nobody fos'd me d1 except mafia, i died n2.
game 11 - i was cop, 2 blues fos'd me but never voted me. shamu [maf] followed his usual town play of lynching someone that outs backwards reports [my cc]. shittown listened to mtlve, who fakeclaimed orc and told everyone to guilty test. law lynched & i won the cc. my reports gave town autowin.
game 12 - "not much suspicious content here"
game 13 - "not much suspicious content here"
game 14 - we were both town. shamu had no reads in cops, i fos'd janitor, unvoted before kicks to see if there'd be a blitz. mafia blitzed cop after town voted wrong which made themselves obvious. n2 blue died, d2 lynched confirmed, n3 i was saved, n4 shamu died. mafia nk'd to be annoying, n8 i died.
game 15 - everyone except 1 person voted janitor. see logic below. dissent voted last. dissent died n2. i was obvious town, everyone tr'd me except for nilla and sosyo. i lead on nilla. everyone voted w/ me. snake was lynched since he was the n1 guilty and town won.


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“dusk lost only 1 game to shamu (and it was on a game dusk was maf and shamu was n1d, and it was dusk's partners who picked the kill)”

>>>lol nobody in the entire round had more than like 2 wins over me.

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1. https://epicmafia.com/game/6429405

“for some reason the town does self for shamu, shamu hammers obv outside dusk and gets the doc”

>>>he didn’t even have hammer read the game lmao this bin is already a joke. essa, scrit, and sinb were all voting sinb [doc]. then me and my partner n2'd cop. nobody tried to get me lynched this game besides scrit, and all scrit did was flashvote me on d2. not once did he actually type out that he fos'd me.

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2. https://epicmafia.com/game/6429425
b2ns shamu blue dusk gf (again)

right after d1 starts, shamu randomly says to bw boryn(blue) and gets him indeed lynched (this was a read without any logic, shamu said to lynch boryn right after the game started)
d2 shamu asks for hammer, ends up lynching another town

>>>wowie a unanimous bw on epic mafia user borynstone on an ML on d1 how suspicious xD glad the whole table threw for me thx guys. the only person to defend boryn was denial. and nobody listened.

20:14  Shamu
IT WAS SPIRIT
 Shamu
FUCK

THIS SHOWS THAT that either shamu knew dusk was mafia but never pushed on her (not even 1 single time) OR he just would never lynch dusk. this was a game with blatant meta abuse. very suspicious game

>>>he fos’d essa daystart but didn’t lynch her. that’s why he said “oh it was essa”. guess shamu’s throwing for essa too :0

>>>also not a single person fos'd me all game besides contrast slightly here on d2 8 mins before the game ended:
12:03  Contrast is one of the mafia bussing or are the team just shamu and dusk?

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3- https://epicmafia.com/game/6432858
janitorial shamu blue dusk lawyer

the other mafs pick n1 kill on shamu, to which dusk reacts badly

oh, and this is the only game where shamu won over dusk, town ended up winning

>>> all i said was “:((“ how does that matter

***game where shamu had no influence on endgame result

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4. - https://epicmafia.com/game/6432909
b2ns dusk cop dissent doc

shamu starts the game asking for selfs (again lol) dusk does self for him along with some others.
the day is long but the only things dusk say is 'oh guys i towntold did you see it' and later says 'report sammie for isp'
dissent talks a lot and is very active but never mentions dusk or tries to read her and lynches sammie who is gf
n2 shamu dies d2 dusk doesnt out as cop and ends up being lynched (lol)
but town wins d3


>>> i said 2 lines all d1 how would he try to read me. nobody tried reading me that d1, was the whole table throwing for me too??? n2 he died. d2 i tr’d yela, softed my report on jordies, and gave yela hammer (because i was throwing for yela).

***game where neither shamu or i had influence on endgame result

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5- https://epicmafia.com/game/6432949
b2ns dusk gf shamu doc

shamu starts the game asking for hammer as usual. then claims pr to cement it. ends up having hammer and using it on a town
n2 dusk says to kill outside dissent despite his pr claim, she claims it was a fakeclaim, they nightkill a blue
d2 cop has guilty on hooker and thats what they all lynch
n3 dusk finally nightkills shamu, cop misshammers in 3way

a bit suspicious

>>> what’s suspicious here? ML’ing on an ML? lol. me thinking shamu fakeclaimed as blue and being wrong about it? lol.

***game where shamu had no influence on endgame result
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6- https://epicmafia.com/game/6433001
janitorial dusk cop shamu blue

d1 at some point shamu says 04:54  dissentI believe four (four is the jan that cc'd dusk) but shamu never votes dusk or tries to even slightly push on her, in fact he votes outside

>>> dyl was blatant mafia even his partners jeff and d3x bussed him. shamu is almost always hesitant to lynch in cops and also wasn't the only one to vote jeff outside.

06:26  dusk
i don't check u in jan
06:31  dissent
wow META
06:35  dusk
META ABUSE
06:36  dissent
what if I'm amfai
06:41  dusk
m e t a a b u s e

>>> so why was this worth mentioning? i almost never check players that i'm familiar with. is that meta abuse too.

***game where shamu had no influence on endgame. he died n2 and my reports gave us autowin.

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7- https://epicmafia.com/game/6433033
janitorial shamu blue dusk lawyer

the janitor guilties shamu and he ends up being lynched. he also outs a 3/3 without dusk in it
maf ends up winning
shamu tried to avoid being lynched so this one isn't that suspicious. but he doesnt fos dusk as usual

>>> why would he fos me when i was the only one trying to not guilty test him. his "3/3" was sosyo (town) essa (nilla) and "someone in cops". he didn't even have a read in cops, but he was still appealing to nova (cop claim) and wanted to lynch outside (sosyo).

***game where shamu had no influence on endgame. he was lynched d1, nobody on the entire table fos'd me on d1 this game.
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9- https://epicmafia.com/game/6433096
janitorial shamu nilla dusk blue

doc saves n1, d1 shamu only says 'cop claims'. n2 says nothing while partners do the work. d2 he does try to win. n3 says:

18:34  dissent
'recheck nooob'
18:47  dissent
and call em maf
18:49  dissent
if this is doc
18:51  dissent
if it's not
18:56  dissent
just guilty me cuz we lose
19:01  dissent
ok

which doesnt show much willing to win but d3 he tries a bit to win again. but d4 asks to be lynched when hes not even confirmed.
 town wins.

>>> can we stop for a minute and appreciate the fact that you said d2 + d3 he tried to win but during night he “doesn’t try to win”. LOL. doc saved n1, they killed a blue, then lawyer was lynched. thats why he said “we lose”. because.... mafia... was... in a losing position. also i remember this game clearly because i sr’d him, but when he asked to be lynched i thought he was towntelling and tr'd him the rest of the game. i also asked to be lynched almost all of d4 so idk what your point was there.

IMPORTANT: on postgame shamu is literally the one explaining why it was auto, the other people didnt know it was auto and lol'ed.

>>> WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? there was absolutely no way for town to know it was auto unless we reread searching for the doc softs. none of us realized that doctor softed the save, i mean we were all dumb to not check but how is this even relevant.

*** essa hammers shamu despite me tring him multiple times, so i guess i must be throwing for dissent since i incorrectly read him
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10- https://epicmafia.com/game/6433129
janitorial shamu orc dusk blue

shamu tries hard and gets all maf, but this part is kinda suspicious: https://i.imgur.com/pZib2F6.png  it's like dusk doesnt have to towntell
>>> ????? pretty sure i was on the phone this game or doing something else at the same time. i fos’d cop, afk’d, then after i was pinged i reread and fos’d janitor and said my reasoning for why. no town fos'd me all game, mafia did fos me though. dyl (town) fos'd essa (maf) and so did shamu. shamu hammered essa outside of cops (do u see a pattern yet). then i died n2 and dissent won the game.

*** shamu had full control of the game, but all he did was lynch his fos outside cops d1 then i died. it's not like town was begging him to lynch me, the only person to fos me was mafia.
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11- https://epicmafia.com/game/6433158
janitorial dusk cop shamu nilla

d1 shamu doesnt push on getting dusk lynched not even 1 single time and pushes on janitor instead. town ends up winning

susp d1
>>> 1.) shamu always pushes on backwards reports. i actually came across him say it randomly in gy when i was reviewing these games. in https://epicmafia.com/game/6432949 [a day before game #11 even happened] he says:

16:40  dissent I have maybe 3
16:44  dissent Mechanical confirmations
16:47  dissent like blitz or whatever
16:58  dissent Alignment before name or typing something stupid as fuck
17:01  dissent as a cop claim
17:04  dissent and fucking the : fp: emote

>>> 2.) all shamu did was vote. he barely actually pushed my cc which is why i checked him n3. also his push didn’t matter because idiotic town was guilty testing lmao

*** two blues openly fos'd me - dyl and sinead. but they never voted for me (thx for the throw guys) because mtlve claimed orc (as doc) and made everyone guilty test. town guilty tested, law was lynched, i won the cc against jan and my report put town in autowin.

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14- https://epicmafia.com/game/6437553
janitorial shamu doc dusk blue

n1 shamu doc's dusk. d1 shamu kinda sheeps dusk's vote and they never fos each other (as usual). n2 shamu doc's dusk again. n3 docs dusk again. n4 docs dusk again.

>>>>>>>>>>>> "they never fos each other" dude come the fuck on. i didn't out ANY reads outside of cops. I HAD NO READS OUTSIDE OF COPS. shamu did NOT sheep me either. he was unsure throughout d1, but then look at the votes end of day. kicks happened @ 13 mins. i unvoted RIGHT before kicks.

13:03 dusk 3 v 3 [3 votes on jan, 3 on cop. this was during kicks, but no one kicked yet. i delayed my vote to see what'd happen.]

justin, carbo, amodern were voting htennis. poot, spadez, htennis were voting justin

13:31  ordeal why 13:33  ordeal isn't anyone kicking

then, amodern voted justin. and immediately kicks happened because mafia had two town voting wrong [poot, amodern]

13:38  dusk they kicked
13:42  dusk once amoderndad flipped

13:46 ordeal kick after the flip from amodern

SHAMU DIDN'T SHEEP ME HE SAW THE BLITZ HAPPEN. wagonomics made the game pretty easy after that.

***game where neither shamu or i had influence on endgame result. mafia basically cleared me and we were both dead by f3. poot hammered correctly and we won.

btw when maf is nk'ing for no reason dusk does a slight ogi:
25:56  dusk
YOURE NOT IN AUTOLOSS
amoderndad votes no one
26:00  dusk
I NEED TO PLAY THIS HEART
26:01  dusk
FUCKING STOP
when they both die town carries for win

>>> how is that even remotely ogi? me needing to play hearts before hearts reset has nothing to do with my alignment lmfao. mafia wasn't in autoloss and i wanted to be clear that nking until meteor when not in autoloss is considered gt. who tf wrote this

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15- https://epicmafia.com/game/6439470
janitorial shamu doc dusk blue

n1 shamu doc's dusk. d1 they lynch jan together. n2 shamu doc's dusk and maf kills shamu. town ends up winning

>>> the entire table voted for janitor, actually shamu voted last. besides tart being obv maf, tartosis (janitor) outed a guilty on dead. snowpuppy then outed a guilty on alive. my opinion was:

11:44  dusk if Tartosis was cop and miller is really dead why would SnowPuppy out a guilty
14:32  dusk HEY IF SnowPuppy JANNED MILLER WHY WOULD THEY OUT A GUILTY

*** dissent died n2. i was obvious town, everyone tr'd me except for mafia. i lead on nilla. everyone voted with me. snake was lynched since he was the n1 guilty and town won.

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16- https://epicmafia.com/game/6439533/review -
jan 2.0 ordeal- orc dusk - lawyer

ordeal claims orc day1 and demands hammer theand hammers outside of dusk
day2 start asks for selfs again and hammers outside of dusk
day3 ordeal says that dusk is mafia but allows her to NL and hammers outside of her
Mafia wins.
>>> “ordeal says that dusk is mafia.”

21:07ordeal:Everyone out three scumreads
21:21dusk: ordeal dusk blacksnakemoan
21:32ordeal: ok dusk's mafia she bussed

this is the only time he mentions fosing me. like ya he deadass clearly hard sr'd me because i put myself in a 3/3 with two clear town. Lmfao. shamu hammered snow because snow didn't do sht. their ONLY lines d3 were:

23:56  SnowPuppy im back
24:13  SnowPuppy tr me

their entire d1 was: [i'm not kidding, this is every single line they said d1]
08:09  SnowPuppy i'm town
08:09 SnowPuppy now u have 1 read
10:03  SnowPuppy@dusk im town
10:09  SnowPuppy tr me
10:13  SnowPuppy lol
10:44  SnowPuppy Xd
12:52 SnowPuppy@blacksnakemoan yes
12:56  SnowPuppy I'm here

lmaooooooo who would not hammer puppy at any point in the game.

12:57  blacksnak...@SnowPuppy hi you're maf
13:01  SnowPuppy yes
13:03  SnowPuppy 100%

even dead blue in gy said:
20:18  VWXYZ snow will get hammered
20:19  VWXYZ today or tomorrow

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who tf wrote this bin? jm123? lol