Justice and broken peasants

Jinx sighs.
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still no backbones amongst Republicans
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we're setting dangerous precedent here
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Jinx, Traitor Trump is only threatening to murder whistleblowers.
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i saw/heard that :(
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i just cannot believe how low the Republicans will go
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i'm not a partisan
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were the shoe on the other foot, i would actively pursue idiocy in the Democratic party
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hell, maybe there is some legitimate complaint about Biden's son's company--i really don't know
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https://apnews.com/68f19fffdbdf4638ab94117b83f5c8f1
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Title: Biden's top 2020 Democratic rivals avoid rush to defend him
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lol
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but every American should know that it's not the president's place to call that out
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that's why there is a DOJ and the notion of recusal
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we really need to separate the roles of our presidency
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Jinx: They have no bottom.
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It's a suicide cult.
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it's a "fuck everyone else in the entire nation as long as i get mine" cult
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A number of them are guilty of serious crimes -- their only chance of not going to prison or being executed is to stay in power.
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eh
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there are a lot of Republicans that aren't guilty of serious crimes and still defend Trump out of fear for their seat
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They're all guilty of RICO conspiracies, but yes.
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this is exactly how a dictatorship rose to power in Rome
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blind allegiance
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fear of questioning the leader
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It's not blind -- they know what they're doing.
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it's exactly the opposite of how our country was founded
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And now they are conspiracy to treason.
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Which I believe is a capital offense.
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i admit it's hard to imagine Lindsey Graham doesn't know the dangerous precedent he's setting
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i don't think that's tantamount to conspiracy
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but it sure makes him look terrible to anyone who understands the constitution
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He knows 100% what he's doing.
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He literally said today he doesn't care about "that conspiracy stuff".
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He gave a speech on the floor of the Senate in 1999 talking about the incredible seriousness of obstruction of justice.
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the conspiracy stuff that Trump/Giuliana spout?
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Sorry.
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Mistyped.
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Guiliani*
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"that obstruction stuff"
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ah
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He is 100% aware his actions are bringing about a 1-party, authoritarian state -- a violation of the US Constitution.
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well, that is most certainly inconsistent of him
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This is being done with the assistance of multiple, foreign, autocratic regimes.
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It is treason.
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100% a death penalty case for him, in particular.
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dereliction of duty, yes--i don't know about treason for Graham
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It consistently amazes me how weak Americans are at holding their politicians accountable.
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the two-party stranglehold makes it hard
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Right now I just mean in speech and orientation.
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because ideally accountability is done by an election
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It's not remotely close that Lindsey Graham should be tried for the state for capital offenses.
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Not remotely close.
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And a lot of Americans want to give him a pass.
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only in extreme cases such as the current one should things like impeachment be invoked
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I couldn't disagree with you more @ ideally accountability is through an election.
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That has never, ever been the American standard.
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Election is *one mechanism* of accountability.
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There are several dozen others.
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Politicians that rig elections and don't want to be arrested or censured or impeached or executed have crafted this narrative of elections and accountability.
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The GOP utterly hates the American republic.
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It doesn't believe in democracy whatsoever, unless it servers their interest.
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eh... for things that fall short of obvious violations of law, elections are the only accountability
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Trump has colluded with multiple foreign, autocratic regimes to attack the foundations of the republic.
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i agree that the GOP in its current state hates the American republic
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And the *only* reason he is getting away with that is the GOP.
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yes
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And you think that falls short of obvious violations of the law?
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You can RICO the top-200 members.
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RICO was created EXACTLY for this.
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RICO goes after mafia organizations, primarily.
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but culpability for inaction is not explicit in the law as far as i know
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The GOP is a mafia oragnization.
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Jinx: It astounds me.
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i guess i should read up on RICO--unfortunately my computer needs a restart so i can't open my browser :)
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There are a billion tools that our state has to go after undesirables.
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Like mobsters and terrorists.
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But the biggest criminals of all, you act as if we're powerless.
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Virtually the entire GOP could be held criminally liable in devastating RICO charges.
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well, i suppose that's because the truth is: we afford those elected into office a higher bar for prosecution
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Every member becomes responsible for the crimes of *any other member of that organization*.
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because we wish to, as they say: "avoid the appearance of impropriety"
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i.e. avoid even the idea that it's politically motivated
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Jinx: Lindsey Graham told us on public TV about 400 times that Trump was a cancer, a poison, the death of the GOP, a conman, etc.
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he's correct
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And now, he is in love with him and "doesn't care about that obstruction stuff" after having argued against Clinton on obstruction of justice.
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hopefully on all of it
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He is a billion light years beyond the appearance of impropriety.
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(i don't know about the death of the GOP--at least the death of any sort of integrity within the GOP)
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His public speech acts are consciousness of his current guilt.
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but innit, what law is he violating?
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i admit he seems spineless
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and partisan
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He is part of a criminal conspiracy to violate the US Constitution.
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and disgusts me as an American
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hmm
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He is a co-conspirator to violation of whistleblower laws.
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He is guilty of violating his oath of office to uphold the Constitution.
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the bar for conspiracy is higher than just "failure to act"
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hmm
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This is wild.
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It's just wild.
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Americans are a broken people.
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They're so used to being raped by their politicians they now have the most fanciful excuses.
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it's not fanciful, and it's not an excuse
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Lindsey Graham has met with Trump dozens of times in one one one meetings the discussions of which are almost surely how Trump can break the law and get away with it.
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it's a legitimate reason to support the constitution
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I have to stop talking to you for awhile.
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The rapidity with which you blitz over "violation of his oath of office" just astounds me.
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There's no way to articulate my surprise.
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You have every excuse in the world why he's not guilty, and have the utmost suspicion of any argument that he's guilty.
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And it's not because you're partisan, obviously.
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You're just broken.
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You have never lived a life inside a healthy republic and you have no examples of what it should be like.
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Here's an analogy for anybody interested:
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Humans have existed for about 200k years.
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We've been living in society essentially all of that time with a distribution of labor and privileges.
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In recorded history, we have clearly delineated roles like 'doctor' or 'child care administrator' or 'farmer'.
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A politician who is upholding the Constitution is the HIGHEST level of authority in our system, way above 'teacher' or 'policeman' or 'priest'.
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Yes, you get a lot of powers as your society grants you these various roles, which Jinx is in love with reminding us -- they have so many privileges! What can we, as the FUCKING CREATOR OF THOSE ROLES AND PRIVILEGES POSSIBLY DO!
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Also, and you'll get no sense of this whatsoever in Jinx's posts: they have a lot of responsibilities, and duties, and oversight in any healthy community
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So, let's continue our analogy
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It's hard to intuitively understand how much harm Trump is doing as 'president', so let's give him a different role: 'priest'
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A priest has incredibly less power and incredibly less constraints, but let's see what happens at this level
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Imagine this priest works with priests from rival communities called 'Saudi Arabia'. In that community, the 'priests' get to murder anybody they dislike, like 'Jamal Khashoggi'
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So, let's say you're the brother of this murdered Jamal and you want your priest to help put pressure on their priest who murdered your brother
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Imagine that priest essentially say fuck you to the community that elected him priest and publicly showing support for the murderous rival priest
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Now, Jinx will gaslight us about how the 'priest' has a lot of powers, and how he has discretion, etc.
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And so people don't typically act on a single, intense violation like this
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But Trump the Priest has about 35,000 of these events
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And now half of the brothers and sisters and mothers in our community want to hold this murderous, child-raping priest accountable
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But we can't have that because the priest has some priest-pals, the GOP, that won't do a goddamn thing about this butt-fucking priest, Trump
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And our society has 500 years of religious teachings about all the things priests should do and how they should help out the brothers and sisters and mothers in our society
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It's a way our society has informally balanced the power and duties afforded to role of 'priest'
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So, let's take a look at history to see what happens in human communities when a priest goes around butt-fucking the kids of a community, pissing everybody off
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Well, if the priest and his priest-pals get too much power, nothing happens, and complainers disappear in the night never to be seen again
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But we're interested in justice -- what happens when the community is able to express itself on this issue
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So, what do societies do then?
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Well, they storm the priest's home and they start to cut off his skin, and this arms, sometimes they shove swords up their assholes
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And then they track down all their priest-pals who didn't care about "obstruction of justice" and then they throw them off cliffs, or bash their heads in with rocks
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So, that's the milieu out of which our republic is emerging
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Now there are various problems about bashing in the priest-pals with rocks that philosophers and others have noted
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Sometimes you kill the wrong people, or you hurt the people too much, etc.
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So, we invented 'legal systems' to help try and constrain our impulses to have more surgical ability to hold people accountable
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America has this. All the 'politicians' take an 'oath of office' that is them guaranteeing to our society they won't do the bad priest-pal game where we have to storm in and break their fucking skulls open
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But, it's a contract
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It's not, as many, many Americans think, a unilateral surrendering of power by the peasants in America to the elite rulers
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So, one of the ways these politican-priests can avoid getting their fucking faces bashed in by having independent investigators investigate the predator-priests
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But, predator-priests don't really like ending the butt-fucking parties, so they do this thing we call 'obstruction of justice'
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Obstruction of justice is one of the most serious crimes any predator-priest-politician can do, as it prevents us from using our non-violent legal system to avoid face bashing
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And this is what Trump and his administration have done about 10,000 times
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Now, Lindsey Graham is a literal professional lawyer
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He knows everything I just said
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He has made the same exact argument on the floor of the Senate in 1999
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https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/lindsey-grahams-views-on-obstruction-of-justice-in-1999
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Title:  Lindsey Graham's Views on Obstruction of Justice in 1999 - NowThis
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So, remember, our responses as a society -- as a JUST society -- are to follow an escalation of force
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We set down our face-bashing rocks not for capitulation, but to find a better way
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And that better way requires all members of the GOP to follow the law on Trump
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And when they don't do that, as is currently the case, then they're all guilty
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Guilty of what?
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Guilty of crimes under the legal system of the United States
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And sense their crimes are enabling predator-priest-politicians, it is extremely serious
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And when they push too hard, as they're increasingly doing, we don't surrender on the internet about we need to avoid the "appearance of impropriety"
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The Framers of our US Constitution literally wrote whole documents about this
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What you do, is you pick up your blood-crusted face-bashing rock and you go hunting priest-pals
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Where is the intensity of Jinx for any of this?
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We saw none of that expressed
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All he could do is tell me over and over and over again about the rights of the politicians WE ELECT who are doing much worse than butt-fucking our kids
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There's no moral authority in that, brother, and your calls for 'civility' are the tool of the oppressor
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So, what should be done?
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The entire GOP should be taken out with RICO
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That's what should be done
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It's non-violent
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It's not going to happen because our DOJ is already collapsed
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So, really, about the only non-violent method we have is voting Trump out in 2020
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But our elections our insecure and this current issue is about Trump working to attack our elections
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Defended by his priest-pals in the GOP
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And so there is already a substantial argument, right now, for American citizens to escalating to violence against members of the GOP for their complicity in treason
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But Jinx wants us to remember some fictional standard they're not remotely close to so that we ensure their powers are respected and 'vote in 2020'.
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This is the expression of a peasant class so beaten and broken they cannot even recall they have a right to have their children safe from predator-priest-politicians