Whooping cough 2

Nov 10th, 2015
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  3. Gabrielle Duebendorfer
  4. Message 1 of 5 , Apr 24, 2013
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  6. We have a bad epidemic of a different strain of pertussis moving through town - since the beginning of the year. I currently have two young girls (2 and 8yo) who are not getting better despite multiple treatments within the last 2 weeks - the older has been coughing for close to 4 weeks.
  8. They both experience a series of short coughs with gasping for air that lead to an incredible amount of retching of white foamy mucus with occasional vomiting of stomach contents; no typical whooping; waking every 1/2 to 2 hours at night to cough less frequently during the day when eating brings it on more. Both are fine once recovered, no fever, normal appetite
  10. The younger one wants to be held more the last day as she is getting exhausted from not sleeping. She wants to sit up and be held up high during a fit (tried carb veg for that to no avail), complains of sore throat from coughing and has gas from gulping air.
  12. Older one has a lot of drama around the coughing episodes, wishing she weren't this person or that her parents could just take the cough away and dread of new episodes coming on. Low dose aconite/bryonia/belladonna didn't address that. She is picking up a lot of anxiety from her mom whom I am treating for that.
  14. here is what I have tried:
  15. *essential oil rubs/steams of cypressus, lavender and thyme
  16. *hp ipecac, Drosera, Coccus, Kali carb, Phos (specifically for anxiety around cough) - homeopathy is not my forte but I am trying:-)
  17. *herbal tinctures of thymus, trifolium, eriodyction, melissa, glycerrhiza, symplocarpus, grindelia, inula, verbascum - not all together and there were others
  18. *undas 5, 37, 32 and recently 2, 5, 710
  19. *Vitamin A 200,000IU once a day for two days then 100,000IU for two days
  20. *onion packs
  23. haven't tried mucolytic such as NAC - has anyone have success with that for pertussis? Other things I am considering is unda #210, herbal dioscorea or viburnum op as anti-spasmodics, maybe valeriana? any help is appreciated. thanks from a practitioner who is exhausted dealing with an exhausted mom and frantic kids in my office. Gabrielle
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  31. Dr. Gabrielle Duebendorfer, ND
  34. eli_tra
  35. Message 2 of 5 , Apr 24, 2013
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  37. Hi Gabrielle-
  39. You might try Dr. Suzanne Humphries Vitamin C treatment for healing whooping cough. I have not had the opportunity to use it yet, but one of my families (8 children) has and they have found it very helpful. The link to the article:
  43. Best-
  45. Elizabeth Trautman, ND
  46. Moses Lake, Wa
  49. Gregory Pais, ND, DHANP
  50. Message 3 of 5 , Apr 24, 2013
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  52. Hi Gabrielle,
  53. I recommend using classical homeopathy, no undas at the same time. Specifically I would use the Boenninghausen method.
  54. If you're using homeopathic software use 4 clipboards.
  55. #1-The best rubric you can find that fits the location of the worst symptoms.
  56. #2-The best rubric you can find that describes the most characteristic aspect--perhaps the foamy expectoration you mentioned.
  57. #3-Your best modalities--have to be clear and specific. What makes the cough better or worse.
  58. #4-Concomittants--The other symptoms that are going on concurrent with the cough. Perhaps with the 1st child-being held. And with the 2nd child-how they are experiencing the anxiety.
  59. For each clipboard you want no more than a total of about 150 remedies, more or less. You want rubrics that accurately describe what the patients are experiencing. Pathological rubrics like 'pertussis' may not be that useful. In particular you're interested in what has changed the most since the illness began. What is most different about the patient since being ill and/or compared to past illnesses.
  60. From the few cases of pertussis that I've treated you can't expect a 1 dose remedy given 1 time. Dose in water, succuss before each dose. Dose as needed. As the patient gets better the doses can be spread out more. In every case I've treated it's taken more than 1 remedy to resolve.
  61. I realize this isn't a direct answer in terms of remedy specifics but, if you're able to follow the process this can be very powerful in the results you can get.
  62. Peace,
  63. Gregory
  65. Gregory Pais, ND, DHANP
  68. Emily Kane
  69. Message 4 of 5 , Apr 24, 2013
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  71. Gabrielle
  72. What turned my teen's pertussis around last fall was Mucolyxir. Torrey Smith mentioned this. Look in archives from last fall. It's DNA from salmon to regrow the lung cilia. I think NAC would help meanwhile 600 mg hs
  73. Emily Kane ND
  74. Juneau AK
  77. Mona Morstein
  78. Message 5 of 5 , Apr 25, 2013
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  80. That's an interesting article. Any reason why Dr. Butler is so against calcium ascorbate and Ester C, and only wants to use sodium ascorbate (or lipophilic C, which I understand)?
  82. Mona Morstein, ND
  83. Mesa, AZ
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