chieloos03:59

I chose mine but can't remember what it meant
HappyPants03:59

I clicked accept like a right fool without editing it
chieloos04:00

Hah, the chances. I have the SM tabard on
HappyPants04:34

Invite me
HappyPants06:53

Got my wolf out for this
HappyPants21:25

Hello!
chieloos21:25

Hey!
HappyPants21:25

I got something to say
I'll be brief don't worry
chieloos21:25

Okay
HappyPants21:26

Hate to use you as my secretary but if anyone in gchat is curious where I've gone, tell them I'll be away for a while
And pls no kick xD
chieloos21:27

Haha, I'll keep an ear out for anyone asking
HappyPants21:27

Good
I opened the game on friday and was just "Ugh"
then my sub ran out the next day
So I take that as a hint I should step back and catch my breath
chieloos21:28

Oof, yeah. Don't want to burn yourself out
HappyPants21:28

I already did
I shouldn't have gotten into that stupid mindset of rushing like a bunch of people did
Kinda ruined the experience
chieloos21:29

I haven't really touched my warrior for a few days, it was getting a bit grindy and I'd not even started farming cash like you were. Not surprised you burnt out
HappyPants21:30

Yeah, a few nights in the yeti cave and I started wondering wtf I'm doing with my life
chieloos21:31

And there I've been levelling a hunter so I can do the same! :P
HappyPants21:33

Not just that I tanked dungeons, had to level solo in STV
chieloos21:34

Yeah, I've not done much tanking yet, only a couple here and there and I got to STV at 33 or so, which made the whole thing easier
HappyPants21:34

Thats much smarter
HappyPants21:43

Well, I'll leave you to it
Gonna enjoy my time off lol
chieloos21:44

Good luck with other stuff!
HappyPants21:44

Best part is I'm not paying for this break
chieloos21:44

Always nice to have the sub end just when you want a break
HappyPants21:44

It was not planned at all
I didnt even notice it was about to end
chieloos21:45

I think I'd left my sub running for about 6 months before classic started because my sister wanted to show me something and I forgot to cancel :|
HappyPants21:46

Think of all the rested bonuses you have on retail
chieloos21:46

Oh so much, and those ones at the level caps probably only need a few xp to ding
HappyPants21:47

Retail is - kill 10 murclos, gain a level
*murlocs
chieloos21:47

I bet you don'
t even need to eat or drink!
HappyPants21:47

You do
Only at max level, and only to gain the stat buff
chieloos21:48

I thought maybe to get the achievement for eating all the different things
HappyPants21:48

That too if you care for such things
chieloos21:49

What else do you do when you've done all the content in a patch?
HappyPants21:49

Ah, but see with random loot stats you're never truly finished gearing!
The wheel never stops spinning!
chieloos21:50

It's so miserably addictive
HappyPants21:50

It is
For some, at least
But I know where to stop
chieloos21:51

I have a fairly addictive personality, I like to do things a lot or not at all, kind of why I stopped playing WoW a lot. Well, until now
I think when I stopped playing properly in 2009 ish I was upto 12000 hours. You can start counting that in years
HappyPants21:52

Lucky for me I have the calculator app
Thats like... about a year and a half
Less than a half actually
chieloos21:54

Yep, started in 2005 I think, just over 1 in 4 years ingame, haha
HappyPants21:54

Well it doesnt matter, if its fun it makes no diffference if its sports or gaming or knitting
chieloos21:55

Exactly, as long as it's still healthy
HappyPants21:55

Nothing is healthy if you follow research at all
coffee is bad, beer is bad, smoking, NOPE. Sugar, bread, everything is bad for you
chieloos21:56

All the fun things D:
HappyPants21:57

Well I quit coffee, limited my sugar and bread intake, I don't smoke and I prefer whiskey over beer tbh
But that still means I have a mile long list of others things "that'd kill me"
Anyway, I said I'd be brief. Oops.
chieloos21:59

My only vice in that list is beer
HappyPants22:00

Hope I'm not distracting you from something important
chieloos22:00

Not at all, just swinging my axe angrily
HappyPants22:00

That is good! Angry axe swings are best.
Even better if you use two axes!
chieloos22:01

As soon as I learn to hold two two-handers!
HappyPants22:02

You'll need retail for that
At least I don't think you can do 2h in classic? Can you?
chieloos22:03

Nope, unfortunately not, I think it came in with Wrath
HappyPants22:04

Thats what I was thinking, something so fun could only be from wrath
And it being called Titan's grip and wrath introduced the whole titans storyline, thats a bit of a giveaway
chieloos22:05

How to get warriors out of the mindset of tanking? Let them hold two two-handers
HappyPants22:07

Or just release DKs who are far better at it, and force warriors to change to avoid feeling inadequate!
chieloos22:08

Very true, those things were everywhere
HappyPants22:08

When your class is also the theme of the expansion. xD
Its like with the stupid monks in mists
But those were even worse
Since they have all three roles
chieloos22:10

Hellfire dungeons were just 4 DKs and which ever healer they managed to find, none would 'tank' they just all went all in
Haha, yeah. I did level a monk, the tanking was funkey
HappyPants22:11

Least they managed to get people to play tanks!
Which also includes the DHs from Legion
chieloos22:12

I did a couple of levels with that too, the tank spec seemed pretty good for levelling, all that jumping
HappyPants22:12

Pure cheat when you have the flag in pvp
And they seem nearly invincible 1 on 1
chieloos22:13

It's also almost impossible to go anywhere without having to double jump nonstop
HappyPants22:13

Cheating, that is all.
I thus declare Dhs cheaters xD
chieloos22:15

Haha, well they do break out of old content really easily because it wasn't made with double jump in the game
HappyPants22:16

Most new content is like a big truck crashing through a flower shop, people get out of it and set up a rock festival in its place. Thats how I picture it in my mind.
Complete, almost comical, disregard for previous features and systems
chieloos22:17

Also, if you're not doing high end progression and just LFR or LFD, you blitz through stuff so quick you don't get to look at it
HappyPants22:18

Like Asmongold said, the expansions don't add to one another to gradually build up the game, which sucks
Hence the "reset"
chieloos22:19

I wonder if they'll try and release new content or just roll out the expacs again
HappyPants22:20

Knowing how fond of recyling they are, and how we're already nagging for TBC, i'd wager we'll see the exact same deal up to and including wrath
chieloos22:21

Yeah, probably. I wouldn
't mind that really
HappyPants22:21

It sounds like the best possible scenario
All the "good" expansions in one place
chieloos22:24

I managed to hit 60 in vanilla, but didn't really raid, was too busy with alts, so it'll be nice to see them this time before tbc
HappyPants22:24

True
It won't be jaw dropping for sure, its been quite a few years, but they have a neat charm to them
chieloos22:26

I did run most of them at 70, but that's a bit cheaty
HappyPants22:26

Weren't they still pretty hard?
chieloos22:27

Oh yeah, but I'm guessing not as hard as it would be at 60. Half of it might be that you're not running them all in the right resistance gear
HappyPants22:28

From what I've seen so far from notorious Gnomeregan... the difficulty is greatly over exaggerated
Or just the 2019 gamer is just that darn good at video games
chieloos22:29

Certainly getting a lot less hunters equipping cloth with spirit and things
HappyPants22:30

Thats not counting people who are clueless, but the ones that do know how to play seem to have no issue
In fact you bringing that up, I saw only one case of someone trying to ninja an item
chieloos22:31

Yeah. Asside from the complexity from so many abilities, the mobs and bosses don't really do much if you've come from retail
It's all tank and spanks
HappyPants22:31

Yes
In retail bosses have lots of mechanics but in retail the mechanic is just keeping threat in order
chieloos22:32

Did heroic deadmines when it came out and the first boss is like a disco, there's so much going on
HappyPants22:32

Thats a joke compared to the last raiding I did during wod
And I heard mythic guldan in legion was insane
so much positioning and different phases
chieloos22:33

I haven't touched a raid since ICC, so not got a clue what's going on there
My sister was a healer in a mythic progression raid guild in legion and panda, she was telling me how stressful it was trying to get everyone to do the right things at the right times
HappyPants22:35

I watched an Asmongold video where he talked about how it almost broke their guild and those guys are top 50
To me the reward doesn't justify the work it takes
I draw the line at normal modes
Mythic dungeons I love though, the speedrun style race against the clock is quite exciting
chieloos22:37

For a large part of WotLK, I was doing 10 man raids with a pretty casual guild and it was so much more fun than the 25 man heroics I was running with another guild
HappyPants22:38

Its better if raids arent too hard
In terms of mechanics, getting all the people to show up is challenge enough
chieloos22:39

People can relax, the raids aren't too serious and you don't get pure silence on teamspeak unless the raid leader needs to shout at someone
That
's why the casual guild did 10 mans :P
HappyPants22:40

I suppose the whole point really is to get people to talk
I see between the two kinds of wow how much "in-between" time there is when you do something which can be used to type
in retail there is none, if I stop to type I miss literally 10-20 casts
I mean you saw how much active abilities I was using on my warrior
chieloos22:42

Right click, get the rend on and back to chatting, the white damage makes up most of my DPS anyway :P
Yeah, it did look pretty intense
HappyPants22:44

It is
Imagine that in pvp
I sometimes can't keep up with whats going on
chieloos22:45

Rogue was pretty manic in WotLK, so many hotkeys needed
HappyPants22:45

I dunno, Mop seemed like the buttons expansion to me
chieloos22:46

Maybe, they seem to have removed half of them in cata
HappyPants22:47

I'm not sure, I'm a bit weak in my cata lore
I didnt really play it
But I did keep up with it from a distance so to speak
With the rise of youtube gaming and all that
Actually I made this account I'm using during mists
Before that was a chaos of playing on other peoples accounts, but shhhh don't tell anyone xD
chieloos22:49

I have another account I made in mists that me and my sister did recuit a friend on. That was hilariously quick to level
HappyPants22:50

I recall it took me about three weeks to level up my first character on the fresh account
chieloos22:51

With dungeon spamming in two to three weeks we got all but 2 classes to 85-90, it was crazy
HappyPants22:51

Sounds about right
I was taking my time, I read the quest texts and explored
chieloos22:52

We just blitzed it. Haven't got a clue what was going on, haha
HappyPants22:52

But if you rush its quite fast
Yeah
Honestly that does appeal to a lot of peope
chieloos22:53

I didn't use that account for classic because I have no real attachment for it, I played it for about a month
HappyPants22:54

Understandable
Though it doesnt matter 100% since they are separate games
chieloos22:54

Yeah, but if I'm gonna have a sub, I might try retail and it might as well be on the account with all the nostalgia
HappyPants22:56

I did enjoy seeing some authentic wrath gear
I'm glad you shared that
chieloos22:56

Still with all those old shoulder enchants I don't think you use anymore :P
HappyPants22:57

Keep those whatever happens
They are more valuable than all my Bfa stuff combined
chieloos22:57

It's part of why I never levelled it, still has all the raid consumables. It's like a time capsule
HappyPants22:58

Exactly
Before classic hit, quite a lot of veterans dusted off their old mains and when those walk round the trade district they are just the biggest pimps around
And with the new head tracking you know who is checking them out
chieloos22:59

Hah, you're like... Wait, that's not a transmog
HappyPants22:59

Yeah
And vanilla items that are unobtainable sell really well for collectors
I even have a small quiver on my hunter I payed up the !@# for xD
chieloos23:00

Someone was saying some items go up to millions :O
HappyPants23:04

Theres a thing called a black market auction house
I dont know how it works since I dont carry around that kind of money
But from what I know its an auction house for old boe items to use as transmogs
chieloos23:06

I think I have like 5k
HappyPants23:06

Hey that wasnt bad for wrath
Well if you need more gold is easier to get than exp or gear
chieloos23:07

I think they did all the honor points and BG tokens to gold and I got rich over night that patch
HappyPants23:07

Ah, right
They did that a few times recently too
they brought valor back then took it away and gave everyone gold instead
So many damn changes
chieloos23:08

They can't make up their minds
HappyPants23:09

Its just one big experiment
Anyway I'll call it here and finally know what its like to sleep at night
chieloos23:11

Huh, doing that sleep while it's dark? Let me know how it goes. I'm not ready to test it yet
HappyPants23:11

I'll make sure to take notes, this is quite the experience
chieloos23:11

Well, keep those pants happy and enjoy!
HappyPants23:11

I'll try at least
Good night!
chieloos23:12

Night!
HappyPants21:21

Hey hey
Good evening
chieloos21:21

Heylo!
HappyPants21:21

Whats going on?
chieloos21:22

Not a lot, working on some alts
You?
HappyPants21:22

Stressed out of my mind
chieloos21:22

Oh? Something up?
HappyPants21:22

I'm having a wisdom tooth erupt and its driving me mad lol
chieloos21:23

Oof, that's not fun
HappyPants21:23

My dentist doesn't want to pull it ince its healthy and growing straight up
chieloos21:24

That's pretty lucky, sometimes they can a lot of problems
HappyPants21:25

So far only slight inflammation
Mouth wash helps cool it down but its still unpleasant
chieloos21:26

A bit of whisky, hurts at first then numbs it down
Any excuse to drink to be honest :P
HappyPants21:27

Its like you are inside my head sometimes
chieloos21:27

Haha
HappyPants21:29

I'm trying to count how long my vacation has been so far
I keep opening the launcher, but the motivation to play just ain't there
chieloos21:30

I can get how that can be. I haven't been playing it all that much
HappyPants21:33

Like one of the wow youtubers said, it feels like when you're playing, its impossible to quit - until you do then you wonder what kept you hooked at all
chieloos21:34

I'm making a point to often play or do other stuff so I don't get so fixated
HappyPants21:35

I think I messed up by playing bfa for so long before classic
classic was the motivation to dig up my retail account again, of course. And some curiosity too, I kept hearing its really bad
chieloos21:36

Especially about warriors!
HappyPants21:37

Didn't stop me playing one!
But, anyway
I'll wait around some more maybe I'll wake up at 3 AM one night with shaking hands wanting to grind mobs again
The brain is weird like that sometimes
chieloos21:38

Haha, the call of the yetis
HappyPants21:39

Should be its own game
chieloos21:40

I'm not far off the yeti cave on my hunter
HappyPants21:40

Its a gold mine
But it can cost you your desire to play xD
chieloos21:41

Hah, take yetis in moderation
HappyPants21:42

Jokes of course, I'm an adult I won't blame the yetis for my mistakes.
But I feel there should be a sign somewhere at the entrance
chieloos21:44

Oh definitely, but isn't part of being an adult blaming your problems on other stuff? :P
HappyPants21:44

I think you might be right!
This reminds me of that bloke that tried to sue bethesda because he couln't stop playing fallout 4
chieloos21:46

People are strange sometimes
HappyPants21:47

I've thought about that in the shower a lot
But, I'm trying to figure out if its that good of a game
chieloos21:48

Well, it passes the time
HappyPants21:50

Its basically Call of Duty with base building
chieloos21:51

I played a few hours of it, not sure now why I stopped playing
HappyPants21:52

Did you play the previous ones?
chieloos21:52

I played 3, but not New Vegas
HappyPants21:54

Well, theres two issues with 4 - rpg elements are lacking and the world just doesn't make sense
These are based on opinions I've garnered from the youtubes
chieloos21:55

Yeah, I didn't like the conversation choices. Some are pretty much the same as each other
HappyPants21:56

They saw the witcher has a similar thing and tried to copy it
chieloos21:57

Worked well in Mass Effect
HappyPants21:57

I said "Tried", as in "Do or do not, there is no try."
And they did NOT
chieloos21:58

Hah, yeah
HappyPants21:58

Also Fallout 76 is a major NOT
chieloos21:58

I didn't try that one at all
HappyPants21:59

When I feel depressed I watch people rip into it on youtube
It looks like a major mess
Like Garrys Mod with many broken conflicting addons, bad
chieloos22:00

Oh that doesn't sound good at all
HappyPants22:00

Its major drama.
Sucks how many fans are giving up on it, theres huge potential in the ip
chieloos22:03

Could've been worse, they could've just turned it into a mobile game
HappyPants22:03

They have one already
Luckily its decent
chieloos22:04

I'm not a fan of mobile games. I don't really play them
HappyPants22:05

I've only ever played 2 during a year I was using an old broken down laptop
Never going back to that!
chieloos22:07

Well, my PC is from 2013!
HappyPants22:07

PC is fine, easier to maintain
My computer had black ash all over the inside from dust and cigarette smoke
Couldnt clean it so it kept overheating and eventually the battery broke so it was anchored to the wall socket
chieloos22:11

I had a laptop that was like that, ended up putting it on a desk and attaching a monitor, keyboard and mouse
HappyPants22:12

I'm never buying another laptop, too many issues down the line
chieloos22:13

I had mine originally for work, so I could take it with me
HappyPants22:22

That sounds likea good deal
Ok, I'm in for an adventure
chieloos22:24

What adventure?
HappyPants22:24

I decided to grab that whiskey that the good doctor prescribed
chieloos22:25

Haha, I'm slumming it with some beer instead
HappyPants22:25

Beer won't help my stupid tooth, need the hard stuff
I poured it in a round bottom glass, looking from top down it looks like a little
But when I lift it up to my eyes... oh my
Thats a lot actually
chieloos22:26

You only live once, treat yourself! :P
HappyPants22:27

That quote belongs in a frame up on the wall!
Words to live by
chieloos22:28

For sure!
HappyPants22:28

It helps us artistic types too, as the stereotype goes
chieloos22:29

I tried art once, didn't agree with me
HappyPants22:30

It takes a lot of work
Anyone can do it, provided you have the patience
chieloos22:31

I don't think I'm patient enough for art
HappyPants22:32

Thats fine, its not for everyone
I rate it the highest form of being a neckbeard