Gumbo Railroaded by GM

Logging started 2021-12-08
[17:53:43] <Belisama> Okay, gents, looks like everyone's in local so we can chat now about this highway issue.
[17:54:35] <Belisama> Please each of you give me an aye, so I know that we're all here and no inadvertent afks have popped up
[17:54:42] <Pruce> here
[17:54:52] <Gumbo> o/
[17:55:04] <Belisama> Excellent. Okay. So, I've gotten to talk to both parties involved now.
[17:55:12] <Belisama> and I think I have an understanding of what went on.
[17:55:33] <Belisama> First, Gumbo, as to the catseyes and waystone that were removed. Pruce will reimburse you those.
[17:55:49] <Pruce> Yes
[17:56:13] <Belisama> Second, let us talk about this project. As I understand, an attempt at communication happened previously where both parties discussed the proposed project, but a mutually agreeable solution was not
[17:56:15] <Belisama> found.
[17:56:21] <Belisama> We all agree this to be true?
[17:56:32] <Pruce> I did try
[17:57:12] <Gumbo> we had a chat
[17:57:19] <Pruce> Twice
[17:57:29] <Gumbo> once
[17:57:29] <Belisama> Okay. So, we're all on the same page right now.
[17:57:34] <Belisama> Minus that
[17:57:41] <Belisama> But, that is irrelevant at the moment.
[17:58:04] <Pruce> Once in local, once via PM
[17:58:10] <Belisama> As I understand it, Gumbo, you want to go through that valley in a relatively straight line to the east, up the hill, to the area you showed me before and remind me again what deed you're attempting
[17:58:12] <Belisama> to connect to?
[17:58:47] <Gumbo> yes that is my proposed route.... deed I was going to is named Nightmare
[17:59:05] <Pruce> Nightmare is at the top of this hill
[17:59:18] <Pruce> where the collosus is
[17:59:25] <Belisama> Okay.
[17:59:38] <Belisama> Now, as I understand, several alternatives were offered.
[17:59:47] <Belisama> I'd like us to work something out here, gents.
[17:59:53] <Belisama> This is going to go one of two ways.
[18:00:01] <Pruce> I only got through the first when he stopped responding
[18:00:06] <Belisama> Either a) we all stand here together and find a solution that we can all live with
[18:00:16] <Belisama> or b) I'm going to come up with a solution and you're both going to live with it
[18:00:29] <Belisama> I'd like to go with plan A.
[18:00:33] <Belisama> I'll live with plan B
[18:02:13] <Belisama> So, shall we commence with some planning for plan A? Or am I going to be telling you how it's going to be done?
[18:02:40] <Gumbo> I'm unsure what is being called into question herre?
[18:03:11] <Gumbo> I was putting in highway legally.. .I've been griefed and insulted
[18:03:22] <Belisama> Gumbo, you want to make a highway on a certain path. Pruce is not in agreement with that. It is a large project going through an area that has a lot of sentimental value and they've asked you to not
[18:03:23] <Belisama> do it.
[18:03:38] <Belisama> You will be reimbursed for the catseyes/waystones that were removed with replacements, and that has already been discussed with the player.
[18:03:57] <Belisama> You also cannot just come in and drop a big huge highway through an area after you are aware that other Wurmians don't want the project there
[18:04:08] <Belisama> This is where the mediation broke down
[18:04:12] <Belisama> And is partially why I am here.
[18:04:20] <Gumbo> singular.. one wurm player
[18:04:21] <Pruce> I feel you are specifically doing this just to grief me since I stated I did not want the highway to use this path.
[18:04:32] <Belisama> I want to find a solution for this highway situation that you can both live with.
[18:04:36] <Pruce> Your stated purpose was to "find uniques".  The existing roads do that.
[18:04:53] <Pruce> You just want to do this since I asked you not to.
[18:05:22] <Pruce> But if you do want a highway from crystal bay I have several alternatives that might work for us both.
[18:05:28] <Gumbo> you are making an accusation.. do you have proof I am doing this to grief you ... or are you just making something up to make a scene
[18:05:36] <Pruce> But I cannot agree to a straight path.
[18:06:00] <Belisama> Gumbo, Pruce is offering alternatives to the path that you had planned. Let us discuss those.
[18:06:01] <Pruce> I have stated my feelings.
[18:06:51] <Gumbo> my purpose was many things..  I gave you a couple of them.. now you just focus on the Unique hunting and criticize that... there are other reasons too.. I just didn't share those wiht you
[18:06:51] <Belisama> I have seen the offered alternatives. All of which seem to be going exactly where you want to go, with less disruption to the current valley
[18:07:24] <Belisama> So why exactly are those not acceptable to you, Gumbo?
[18:07:38] <Pruce> If you would communicate reasonable we could have worked this out ourselves.
[18:08:30] <Pruce> If you have other considerations please state them.
[18:08:31] <Gumbo> I would like to see the scenery as I travel through here
[18:08:38] <Gumbo> not a cave wall
[18:08:44] <Pruce> Existing roads do that.
[18:09:11] <Gumbo> I cannot look for uniques and turn left right up down..
[18:09:38] <Belisama> And the existing paths currently do that, as I understand after a fly through. You don't need a formal highway for that.
[18:10:07] <Pruce> There is no new functionality by a new highway.
[18:10:15] <Pruce> Nightmare is already on the highway system.
[18:10:16] <Gumbo> the existing paths make it difficult to move and search
[18:10:50] <Pruce> They can be adjusted without resorting to a huge wall of a straight highway.
[18:10:58] <Belisama> Is your primary concern not having an actual highway, but traversable series of paths, Gumbo?
[18:11:00] <Gumbo> the were incomplete.. with breaks in the cobble... places over 40 dirts slopes
[18:11:18] <Belisama> Pruce, will you fix these paths, terraform and replace the cobble?
[18:11:23] <Gumbo> dismount to get to other paths
[18:11:28] <Belisama> Make them more easily traversable?
[18:11:40] <Pruce> From here to crystal bay can call be reached without going over 40 slope
[18:11:49] <Pruce> In fact 24 slope max
[18:11:58] <Gumbo> Pruce could also help with the ingoing cobble highway
[18:12:39] <Gumbo> I fixed the old single road..so I could get through this area.. it was unpassable before
[18:12:40] <Pruce> A new highway does not fix that which he speaks.
[18:12:48] <Belisama> Wasn't my question, Pruce.
[18:13:03] <Belisama> If we identify areas that have changed through one way or another over the years, will you fix them so that they are traversable?
[18:13:16] <Pruce> I don't know what is being referenced.  I go to crystal bay without going over 24 slope, paved all the way.
[18:13:31] <Belisama> Okay, Gumbo, show us an area that is over 40 slope and untraversable please
[18:13:43] <Gumbo> you are talking cave route.. correct Pruce?
[18:14:06] <Pruce> There are 2 tunnels.  You can pop out in between and look for uniques.
[18:14:26] <Gumbo> show me an over the top route to crystal lake from here. . no existant
[18:14:34] <Gumbo> I don't want a cave route
[18:14:45] <Gumbo> stop with that suggestion pls
[18:14:53] <Pruce> So build a road over the top to supplement the existing roads.
[18:15:05] <Gumbo> there ya go
[18:15:19] <Pruce> Doesn't need to be a single elevated highway straight throug the valley
[18:15:39] <Pruce> That highway you build to Teeebomb's place is an impassible abomination.
[18:15:48] <Belisama> Here's the thing, Gents, we can't always get what we want, and this fighting isn't going to help.
[18:15:54] <Pruce> Great if you are travelling north.  Terrible crossing east-west
[18:16:01] <Pruce> I don't want that here.
[18:16:09] <Gumbo> demonize me some more .. .I don't need this Bellisama.. he is not being insulting
[18:16:17] <Gumbo> *now
[18:16:18] <Belisama> Okay, plan B it is.
[18:16:22] <Pruce> We need to express our concerns in order to find common ground.
[18:16:43] <Belisama> Okay, you can both stop talking and I'm going to say a few things and then I"ll tell you when it's your turn again, got it?
[18:16:46] <Pruce> How can you cross that east-west?  It's 290 slope!
[18:17:27] <Belisama> First, this is a Sandbox game. You need to WORK with your neighbors, NOT sit here and snipe at each other and both insist it's your way or the highway, so to speak.
[18:18:04] <Pruce> I would be glad to help even, if a mutually agreeable route is found.
[18:18:27] <Belisama> Second, you're going to get ONE FINAL attempt to find a mutually satisfactory path for this highway and if there are any insults from either of you, I'm going to take over and tell you exactly where
[18:18:31] <Belisama> the highway is going to go.
[18:18:49] <Belisama> I said no speaking
[18:19:26] <Belisama> Gumbo. Your highway is being hotly contested by someone who has a deed in this area, that was legally placed, and that deed is not griefing you.
[18:19:34] <Gumbo> well if I'm not mistaken.. game mechanics are on my side... I'm not griefing by putting in a highway... the devs put in ways to prevent people from doing what Pruce is attempting
[18:19:51] <Gumbo> his deed can stay
[18:20:03] <Belisama> I also said NO SPEAKING UNTIL I SAID SO
[18:20:06] <Gumbo> sorry
[18:20:49] <Belisama> Yes, his deed can stay, but you won't be able to put your highway over it, so we need to find another path.
[18:20:59] <Gumbo> I will
[18:21:23] <Belisama> So, you can find one that works with Pruce as well, and we can make good neighborly relations, or I am going to tell you where that highway is going.
[18:21:42] <Gumbo> I can simply go around it
[18:22:06] <Belisama> Now. You get ONE LAST CHANCE to work together to find a path that doesn't disrupt that valley unnecessarily and that Pruce can live with.
[18:22:16] <Belisama> Gumbo, have I said you could speak yet?
[18:22:23] <Belisama> You keep pushing.
[18:23:02] <Belisama> Now, you can both speak again, but there will be no insults, no accusations, there is ONLY discussion of where there is a path taht you can both live with.
[18:23:13] <Belisama> And, Gumbo, you need to be open to some brief cave paths.
[18:23:20] <Pruce> Gumbo may I show you some alternatives?
[18:23:27] <Gumbo> I will make my highway around what his griefer deed
[18:23:58] <Gumbo> he wanted to prevent a highway close to Eagles Nest.. but he is now forcing it there, to get around Death Valley.. consider that
[18:24:05] <Pruce> And already with the insults
[18:24:46] <Belisama> We're done with accusations and insults.
[18:24:51] <Gumbo> I don't need your permission Pruce... the game mechanics are there to stop people from griefing like you are doing
[18:24:51] <Pruce> and a threat too...
[18:25:06] <Belisama> If you two can't work together, then expect a GM directive to explain exactly where the highway can and cannot go
[18:25:22] <Belisama> Last chance.
[18:25:27] <Gumbo> I want an above ground highway.. where would you like it to go?
[18:25:42] <Pruce> May I show you something that may work?
[18:25:50] <Gumbo> all above ground?
[18:25:54] <Pruce> Yes sir
[18:26:00] <Gumbo> lead on
[18:26:16] <Pruce> next intersection
[18:26:45] <Belisama> Slow down, Pruce, Gumbo is on foot
[18:26:52] <Pruce> sorry!
[18:27:07] <Gumbo> this seems rather far out of the way of the proposed highway
[18:27:13] <Gumbo> 50+ tiless
[18:27:15] <Pruce> bear with me
[18:27:35] <Pruce> this is all existing highway
[18:27:52] <Pruce> adds a new mountain top for unique searching...
[18:28:08] <Pruce> and access to this mountain to the right
[18:28:13] <Pruce> you can get up top from here
[18:28:40] <Pruce> this section is all highway ready
[18:29:41] <Pruce> here is only about 20-30 tiles north of Death Valley
[18:30:17] <Gumbo> but we are trying to go north
[18:30:29] <Pruce> south you mean
[18:30:38] <Gumbo> errr ya.. south
[18:31:09] <Pruce> running this troll off
[18:32:00] <Pruce> ok I'm right below there now
[18:32:24] <Gumbo> again.. it's going north..  the goal is north
[18:32:27] <Gumbo> errr Soutn'
[18:32:31] <Gumbo> backwards here
[18:32:34] <Pruce> Yes, not a straight path, but would not affect my access to this valley
[18:33:13] <Pruce> Non-highway path would still exist, and you could still have a highway connecting Crystal Bay to Great Mountain Road.
[18:33:37] <Gumbo> it's not very time saving.. that is another thing I and my friends like...  faster routes.. not slower
[18:33:48] <Belisama> It's not that much more time.
[18:33:51] <Gumbo> it takes us out of our way
[18:33:54] <Belisama> Especially on horseback
[18:33:57] <Pruce> Well if its time-savings that's the concern, the cave route is fastest.
[18:34:02] <Belisama> And there are still going to be traversable paths through the valley.
[18:34:03] <Pruce> You can do that TOO
[18:34:04] <Gumbo> it's more time than I wish to spend
[18:34:32] <Belisama> Gumbo, it'll likely cost you an extra what, 5-10 minutes, at most?
[18:34:39] <Belisama> It's all pretty much terraformed already.
[18:34:41] <Pruce> If you have a need to get there quickly (not search for uniques), choose the cave highway.
[18:35:03] <Gumbo> I curious Belisama....  do you think you could maybe try to coax Pruce into going my route for a bit?
[18:35:09] <Pruce> No up/down up/down and no switchbacks.  Straight line.
[18:35:21] <Gumbo> I feel I"m being ganged up here
[18:35:26] <Belisama> We'll get there.
[18:35:33] <Belisama> Right now we're looking at this option
[18:35:39] <Pruce> I'm a gang?
[18:35:56] <Gumbo> thanks.. is in the wrong direction from where I would like to go
[18:36:09] <Belisama> Why does it have to be a highway if your only concern is ridability?
[18:36:17] <Gumbo> is many things
[18:36:31] <Gumbo> the all amount to going the route I chose
[18:36:33] <Belisama> There's already an existing highway to where you want to go, and as you said, your primary concern is unique hunting.
[18:36:35] <Pruce> This is why I feel it is griefing.
[18:36:46] <Gumbo> not primary
[18:36:48] <Pruce> My only choice is his straight 20-slope highway
[18:36:58] <Gumbo> Pruce said that was my primary reason.. not me
[18:37:00] <Belisama> Again, large projects such as a highway cannot just be placed through an area where others contest it. This one is being ocntested.
[18:37:13] <Belisama> You said that earlier, you wanted faster, easier unique hunting.
[18:37:27] <Gumbo> my proposed route is 100 tiles away from your deed Pruce
[18:37:32] <Belisama> There are viable options for a big highway that bypass the valley.
[18:37:49] <Pruce> No - more like 40-50
[18:37:51] <Belisama> And then there can be a smaller traversable path, one lane wide, that goes through the valley, overland.
[18:38:19] <Pruce> This all started because I saw you working regularly in my local from my house.
[18:38:57] <Pruce> I showed you an idea.  Show me an alternative?
[18:38:57] <Belisama> My suggestion would be a middle ground.
[18:39:13] <Belisama> What about putting the big highway on a path that diverts the valley
[18:39:15] <Belisama> BUT...
[18:39:31] <Belisama> put an established, traversable ONE TILE WIDE path that runs in a FAIRLY straight line through that valley
[18:39:36] <Belisama> To where you want to be, Gumbo
[18:39:48] <Belisama> You get the path you want, it's not the huge highway that Pruce objects to
[18:39:53] <Belisama> The highway goes around
[18:40:00] <Belisama> You'll both work together on it
[18:40:07] <Pruce> But still makes the valley not traversable.
[18:40:24] <Belisama> A one tile wide path, when you state that there are already paths that go through there?
[18:40:29] <Belisama> Doesn't have to be a straight line
[18:40:36] <Pruce> The only way to put a 2-tile 20 slope highway up the valley is lots of switchbacks.  All those are steep slope sides.
[18:40:38] <Belisama> It can wend and weave, but it has to be traversable
[18:40:55] <Belisama> It is MIDDLE GROUND, gents
[18:41:07] <Pruce> Well let's have a look so you can see my point.
[18:41:08] <Belisama> Big highway goes around, smaller path goes through to allow for transit
[18:41:39] <Gumbo> so now over to my proposed spot?
[18:41:45] <Belisama> Yes, Gumbo
[18:41:50] <Pruce> Sure, where to?
[18:42:13] <Gumbo> east side Death valley tunnel
[18:43:16] <Pruce> Here?
[18:43:25] <Belisama> He's coming, Pruce
[18:43:56] <Gumbo> notice the hampered cave travel time
[18:47:04] <Pruce> I'm going to use the cave - faster
[18:48:19] <Gumbo> so would like to know ... what reasons are there to make this a legitamit "contesting" ?
[18:48:51] <Belisama> A moment, RL phone call.
[18:49:03] <Pruce> Where are you currently?
[18:49:24] <Gumbo> climbed up
[18:49:25] <Pruce> I don't object to your work here.  My concern is through the valley
[18:49:59] <Pruce> I'm out of stam
[18:50:20] <Belisama> Sorry about that, I return.
[18:50:39] <Pruce> Gumbo can I get up the other side?
[18:50:43] <Belisama> Pruce, is there a path that you'd agree upon through the valley, hugging the mountain wall, and to this point? NOT a major highway, let's start with that.
[18:50:45] <Gumbo> yes
[18:51:01] <Pruce> ok, I'll go around
[18:51:16] <Pruce> @Belisama yes - the north wall of the valley would be fine
[18:51:46] <Belisama> Gumbo, will you agree to a path that hugs the north wall of the valley
[18:51:51] <Gumbo> my plan has been and always was.. to go from here...  angle diagonally to the SW .. hug the mtn for 14 tiles... then go due west and connect with the ramp I've been making on that side
[18:52:06] <Gumbo> south wall hugging?
[18:52:38] <Gumbo> that was my route.. the right along this wall here that I"m at
[18:52:54] <Belisama> Hold on, Pruce has moved out of local
[18:53:06] <Belisama> Okay, say that again, Gumbo, now that Pruce is back in local
[18:53:17] <Gumbo> [18:51:51] <Gumbo> my plan has been and always was.. to go from here...  angle diagonally to the SW .. hug the mtn for 14 tiles... then go due west and connect with the ramp I've been making on that s
[18:53:37] <Gumbo> side
[18:54:12] <Gumbo> this way where I am... but 14 tiles south.. to hit that down ramp on west side GSHwy
[18:54:57] <Belisama> Okay, not a straight shot, hugging the mountain?
[18:55:18] <Gumbo> cannot be straight.. .they are 14 tiles different.. I have explained that before
[18:55:52] <Pruce> and that is the part I object to.  Going SW goes left of my existing roads, and blocks access to the N/S valley
[18:56:10] <Pruce> I would prefer this go via the right-side mountain wall (north side)
[18:56:24] <Pruce> Leave my existing road and tunnel
[18:56:40] <Pruce> (please)
[18:57:10] <Gumbo> I will only be crossing one cobble tile
[18:57:19] <Gumbo> it will be fine
[18:57:47] <Pruce> But take out the whole cedar woods I made walkable and put a wall across the end of the valley.
[18:58:05] <Gumbo> I need to match up a good height on this side.. to that side.. I hug this mtn. and get in matching height range.. and we're good
[18:58:13] <Pruce> I've not finished sloping the right side, so no real impact if you went that side.
[18:58:28] <Gumbo> trees chopped?
[18:58:43] <Gumbo> your objection is trees chopped?
[18:59:18] <Pruce> To the left of the road is a cedar woods I planted and sloped so I can walk to every tile.  You want to road through there.
[18:59:20] <Gumbo> I think I'd like to hear some valid reasons why this highway I'm making, is being contested pls
[18:59:34] <Pruce> Look behind you
[18:59:48] <Pruce> the slopes of the sides of the highway are impassible
[19:00:06] <Pruce> That is what I have to cross trying to travel north-south
[19:00:17] <Pruce> I have said this many times.
[19:00:31] <Gumbo> the slopes on the sides of the highway .. will be passable.. I guarantee that
[19:00:38] <Pruce> I helped BUILD Great Mountain Highway.  I know my highway building.
[19:01:10] <Gumbo> I started the GSHwy... with a buddy and his deed
[19:01:34] <Pruce> GS?
[19:01:39] <Belisama> Off topic, gents. Let's bring it back before things escalate again
[19:01:41] <Gumbo> Great Southern Hwy
[19:01:55] <Pruce> Oh yeah, much later.
[19:02:00] <Gumbo> so this route.. no slopes.. problem?
[19:02:34] <Gumbo> cedar trees replanted where needed
[19:02:38] <Pruce> Can't be done.  I'm fine up until the valley.  Please use the right side of the valley.
[19:02:59] <Gumbo> [18:59:20] <Gumbo> I think I'd like to hear some valid reasons why this highway I'm making, is being contested pls
[19:03:15] <Pruce> I'm trying not to be insulting.
[19:03:20] <Belisama> Gents, we're both going to have to give a little here. Neither of you is going to exactly get your way.
[19:03:33] <Gumbo> [18:59:20] <Gumbo> I think I'd like to hear some valid reasons why this highway I'm making, is being contested pls
[19:04:42] <Belisama> He has given you several, including impact to his current paths, etc.
[19:04:52] <Belisama> We need to find a solution now. This has been ongoing for a long time.
[19:05:02] <Pruce> He does not thing my reasons valid...
[19:05:07] <Pruce> think*
[19:05:12] <Gumbo> my route will not create any unpassable regions
[19:05:16] <Belisama> and if you two can't agree on something, the GM team will make a directive and we will decide the path, and you'll both live with it.
[19:05:29] <Pruce> Understood
[19:05:48] <Pruce> Gumbo look at this slope even this - the better part of your highway 121 slope.
[19:05:52] <Pruce> Impassible
[19:06:06] <Gumbo> huh?
[19:06:08] <Pruce> This entire highway you have built.  Same thing.
[19:06:08] <Belisama> This is your very last chance to find something you can BOTH agree upon. I am going to walk away for 5-10 minutes, and you will both stay in local and DISCUSS, NOT ARGUE.
[19:06:14] <Pruce> Can't be crossed.
[19:06:18] <Pruce> That's my issue.
[19:06:26] <Gumbo> the sides were not passable before
[19:06:31] <Belisama> When I return, I expect progress towards that goal. And if this is not resolved in the next 20 minutes, it will be a GM directive. Do you both hear me?
[19:06:35] <Gumbo> that is not a valid reason
[19:06:37] <Pruce> But down there they are
[19:06:44] <Pruce> don't break it for me please!
[19:06:51] <Belisama> Focus, gents, see my text and acknowledge it
[19:06:52] <Gumbo> [18:59:20] <Gumbo> I think I'd like to hear some valid reasons why this highway I'm making, is being contested pls
[19:07:04] <Pruce> Put the highway where the slopes are already broken
[19:07:11] <Pruce> The right side...
[19:07:35] <Pruce> These are valid reasons!
[19:07:40] <Belisama> READ MY TEXT GENTLEMEN
[19:07:43] <Belisama> AND ACKNOWLEDGE
[19:08:03] <Pruce> Which text?
[19:08:22] <Pruce> I'm trying to work it out.  Why not let us?
[19:08:59] <Belisama> I'm going to step away for 5-10 minutes, I expect more progress and no insults when I return, and if we don't have a solution in the next 20, the GM's are going to make a directive. Got it?
[19:09:19] <Pruce> You can make a directive now if you like
[19:09:39] <Pruce> He is not willing to compromise.  20 minutes will not help
[19:10:02] <Belisama> You're both going to give something at the end of the day, so be prepared for that. I'll be right back.
[19:10:22] <Pruce> I don't know what else we can do
[19:21:51] <Belisama> Okay, I return. I don't see any chatter, so am I to take this that neither of you can come up with a solution you can both live with?
[19:22:09] <Gumbo> I did
[19:22:28] <Belisama> I said that you can BOTH live with, Gumbo
[19:22:37] <Gumbo> He can keep his Death Valley blocker deed... and I will route my highway around it... .we both get what we want
[19:23:14] <Pruce> And when you route uphill and I grow my deed to block we'll be right back here again.
[19:23:19] <Gumbo> now if his goal is not about the Death Valley deed.. then he's in a wee bit of trouble
[19:23:27] <Belisama> No, because you still are going through an area that he doesn't want a full highway on. And there are many highways around here.
[19:23:35] <Gumbo> no we won't Pruce
[19:23:39] <Belisama> GM Directive Time
[19:23:42] <Belisama> You will both listen
[19:23:43] <Gumbo> you expand all you want to
[19:23:47] <Belisama> Neither of you will speak
[19:23:53] <Belisama> Do. I. Make. Myself. Clear
[19:24:13] <Belisama> I have discussed this with other GM's, including all information provided by both parties.
[19:24:22] <Belisama> At this time, the GM team has the following directive:
[19:24:51] <Belisama> First. Pruce, you will manufacture and replace the catseyes/waystone that you pulled up illegally and you will provide those to Gumbo.
[19:25:26] <Belisama> Second, Gumbo, you will not build the highway as planned. There will be no highway through this area. There are many others that go around here that are amenable and the deeds are on the highway
[19:25:29] <Belisama> system.
[19:25:37] <Belisama> This is the final word.
[19:25:50] <Belisama> Appeals may be made to the HGM, Enki, and the AHGM, Pomona.
[19:27:29] <Pruce> Speak now?
[19:27:34] <Belisama> You may
[19:27:57] <Pruce> I have the cateyes and waystone.  I will fetch them and return while all still here?
[19:27:59] <Gumbo> I seem to be missing the part of the judgement that Pruce is not going to like
[19:28:11] <Belisama> He's giving the catseyes and the waystone to you.
[19:28:15] <Gumbo> that was a 55ql waystone btw
[19:28:17] <Belisama> You can get them, yes.
[19:28:23] <Belisama> What ql are yours, Pruce?
[19:28:27] <Gumbo> you're kidding right?
[19:28:41] <Belisama> As I said, appeals may be made to Enki and Pomona.
[19:28:48] <Gumbo> again... where is the part of the judgement that Pruce is not going to like
[19:28:51] <Gumbo> ?
[19:29:05] <Belisama> I've already given that answer, Gumbo.
[19:29:13] <Gumbo> hat is a joke
[19:29:15] <Pruce> I have the exact catseyes removed.
[19:29:16] <Gumbo> *that
[19:29:25] <Belisama> How long will it take you to get them, Pruce?
[19:29:30] <Belisama> And are they damaged?
[19:29:36] <Pruce> About 2 minutes
[19:29:42] <Belisama> Fine, get them please.
[19:29:46] <Pruce> longer to ride back
[19:31:08] <Gumbo> giving back to me that which he destroyed... is not something he dislikes... infact that is pleasing
[19:31:22] <Gumbo> what kind of a silly judgement is this?
[19:31:59] <Belisama> You have your options for appeal. If you continue to argue, you can have a time out. Now, I need to leave. You two can handle this trade peaceably, can you not?
[19:32:14] <Pruce> I can
[19:32:15] <Belisama> If not, they that does not trade peaceably WILL get a time out.
[19:32:28] <Gumbo> lol
[19:32:56] <Gumbo> maybe a finger wagging... that'll learn em
[19:33:20] <Gumbo> so this here Directive.. that's good for how long?
[19:33:28] <Belisama> Permanent.
[19:33:38] <Gumbo> don't think there are such things
[19:33:47] <Gumbo> if so.. I will need this in writing pls
[19:34:05] <Belisama> You have it, in the logs right here. And that is what you will get. Now, make the exchange peaceably.
[19:34:17] <Gumbo> infact.. could you send me all your data and info on the forum pls.. so I can contest this contesting
[19:40:39] <Pruce> Almost there
[19:43:31] <Pruce> Take care
[19:43:46] <Gumbo> up yours you whiney asshole
[19:43:54] <Pruce> lol
[19:44:09] <Pruce> I did not complain to the GM :)