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- glkfan
- the concept of "gender" as separate from sex makes no sense
- 14:21 glkfan
- bruce/caitlyn jenner was and will always be male
- bonni_g
- let's say your gender is female - so why is the sex part left out?
- glkfan
- getting breast implants and growing your hair out does not make one female
- 14:22 bonni_g
- IKR?
- bonni_g
- nice pic
- bonni_g
- chopping one's breasts off and taking testosterone doesn't make one a male
- glkfan
- UnderCoverNerd, i care because now instead of trying to get society to stop treating women like crap, women are 'transitioning' to escape 'being treated like a woman'
- bonni_g
- that's right UnderCoverNerd
- 14:24 EonEcho
- glkfan: Which is more important for identity: the qualities of the mind, or physical anatomy?
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- glkfan
- what identity?
- bonni_g
- and then we have the bathroom issue made famous by Ted Cruz
- glkfan
- when does identity come in? who cares about identity? no one
- EonEcho
- https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/identity/
- EonEcho
- Identity is a core concept in philosophy.
- bonni_g
- I identify as a unicorn - and someone yells WHO CARES
- glkfan
- no one asks a woman at a bar her gender identity before drugging and raping her
- ____ARGIC____
- but does anyone have a hissy fit when women who transitioned to men go to men's bathrooms?
- EonEcho
- I put bonni_g on lifelong block.
- ____ARGIC____
- its always the other way around
- glkfan
- no one asks child brides their gender identity before marrying them off to some creepy 50 year old man
- EonEcho
- glkfan: Which is more important for identity: the qualities of the mind, or physical anatomy?
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- glkfan
- i don't know what you mean by identity
- EonEcho
- Refusal to give a serious answers results in you being labeled an unserious chatter.
- glkfan
- UnderCoverNerd, the point is that women are trying to escape treatment like that by 'identifying out' of it
- EonEcho
- glkfan: A person comes before me and I ponder the question: What is the nature of this person?
- glkfan
- any woman who correctly identifies that sexism is real will want to escape it
- EonEcho
- That question can be importantly answered by understanding their identity.
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- EonEcho
- To help establish the parameters of this person's identity, I might consider their physical anatomy, as well as various qualities of their mind.
- EonEcho
- In that process, which of those two will be more important?
- glkfan
- nonsense question
- glkfan
- why does one have to be more important?
- glkfan
- sex is not race
- EonEcho
- glkfan: Because heterogeneity is a key part of almost all metaphysical systems.
- EonEcho
- glkfan: Are physical anatomy and mental qualities identical?
- EonEcho
- If they are not, then I might be able to apply a comparison function to them.
- EonEcho
- This is a standard cognitive process.
- EonEcho puts glkfan on Red Alert
- glkfan
- all of these questions sound like you're talking about some video game
- EonEcho
- I put glkfan on block until 2025-01-20.
- EonEcho
- Reason: Insufficient intelligence.
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