Deleted post from chksum regarding climate change

First, the general attitude, stance, and language of the Climate Change(CC) crowd. Science is first and foremost never settled. A scientist who thinks something is settled isn't much of a scientist at all. It's an ongoing process of discovery, reviewing past assumptions, testing, retesting, analyzing new data, retesting some more and then coming to a new conclusion. And as soon as that conclusion is found, you immediately start the process over again and see if you were wrong on anything, retest some more. Find new data. Constantly reviewing any past conclusions. The language of the CC crowd is the antithesis of this. It's become a lot more akin to an article of faith, and those who disagree for any reason are likened to heretics. Even the hip term "climate change denier" was created to like them to Holocaust deniers, as if someone disagreeing with the amount of effect humans have on the climate is on the same moral level as not caring if millions of people were systematically executed. The whole attitude around it is decidedly unscientific, and is frankly a lot closer to religious dogma right up there with the attack of anyone who goes against that dogma.
Second, the deception. There have been several verified and documented cases where those on the CC side have been found to have been lying, talking to each other about lying, deliberately leaving out data from reports, and outright falsifying data. This is also not only very scientific, but casts extreme doubt on the whole deal. If a side of an argument needs to blatantly lie and fudge the numbers to get their point across, it's a hell of a lot harder to take their points seriously. And it also begs the question, what other instances of deception have we not yet found out about.
Third, the people who are the biggest proponents and their "solutions". If I were gravely concerned about some particular issue that stood to affect a huge portion of the population, I would make it one of my most important goals to make it as apolitical as possible. I would do whatever I could to get the most amount of people on board with it as possible, win as many to my side, make it as non-divisive, non-partisan, and as cut off from the typical two-group divide as possible Basically all of the things the political left has gone out of their way not to do with CC. The left has done everything they can to tie CC to the rest of the left's platform, and in the process, automatically set a huge portion of the country against them. They made it a part of the Democrat Party platform and used it as a bludgeon to attack the right. Furthermore, it is very suspicious to those of us who have been paying attention for a pretty long while that their "solutions" to CC are strikingly similar to the same "solutions" they have for every other problem they see, namely massive increases in the control the government has over the lives and lifestyle choice of individuals, and massive confiscations and redistribution of wealth. Tell people what to eat, what to drive, where they can drive and how often, where to live, what light-bulbs and laundry detergent they can use, and on and on and on. The same stuff they hold up as the solutions for everything from gun control to poverty to women's rights and everything in between. Take control of more money and decide who gets what, and take more control over the life choices of the citizens. And they're the exact same "solutions" they had back in the day for the impending ice age alarmism, acid rain, and the hole in the ozone layer. So it comes off as a little more than suspicious that the same crowd trots out the same methods of taking away liberty and property from people for every new crisis they say comes along.
And as for those "solutions"? So far no one has been able to demonstrate that any of them can or will have any measurable effect on the problem in the end anyways. All of the hundreds of billions of dollars spent on all sorts of government programs, carbon credits, cutting down on manufacturing, etc and the best estimates the CC people can come up with is that it all might stave off CC by a couple days, a couple weeks, maybe a year. Totally destroying and remaking the entire face of human society, economies, the jobs and lives of billions of people who are struggling to live and work right here right now, to give us an extra month or two.
And that extra month or two? We won't know for sure in a hundred or more years. You see, they started out making predictions about "By the year 2000...", or "in 10 years it will be too late", "In 15 years, we'll be past the point of no return". But a funny thing happened....all of those predictions were wrong. Flat out wrong. !00% of them failed to come to pass. The CC has yet to establish any kind of reliable and verifiable track record that they can make even one prediction that can be shown to be anywhere close to accurate. Whenever they tried, it didn't come true. So they've switched tactics. Push the prediction off to a point where no one who hears it today will be alive when it comes time to check and see if they were even right. But in the mean time, give us you money, let us tell you how to live, and don't mind the fact we've been caught lying about it all before...Just give us control and we promise this doomsday scenario we say will certainly happen in 100 years won't happen.
And lastly, the sun has a hell of a lot more to do with earth's climate than we even know at this point. Other bodies in our solar system have mysteriously also been experiencing temperature fluctuations, and yet there are no humans there to cause it. There is just so much we don't know about the sun, solar cycles, and the rest to be able to conclusively say that it's not a cause. We do however know for a fact that in recorded human history, the sun did have a drastic effect on our climate, long before we were pumping CO2 into the atmosphere. The Little Ice Age was caused not by humans, but by changes in solar output. We know that changes in the sun can make the earth cool enough over the span of a few decades to dramatically alter the lives of every person on earth. It happened. It stands to reason that it can go the other way as well. Is it doing that now? We don't know. There is a lot about the sun we don't know and at our current technology level, can't know yet.
So all of that put together, and I'm sorry but when the same hucksters, liars, and authoritarians who have been trying to take my money and my say in my own life choices for 50-60 years now come along and try to do it again, after being found to be lying about it before, to solve a problem they can't even show they can actually solve even if I go along with it, I'm going to remain skeptical. And frankly, until I see Leonardo DiCaprio and the rest selling their beachfront homes that they're so certain are going to be under water in no time, I'm going to continue to eat meat, drive what car I want where I want, use whatever light-bulbs I want, keep my heard earned money, and vote against and oppose anyone and everyone who seeks to take those things away from me.

-/u/chksum