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* kreyren is looking for a game suggestion, because he is bored af
* Chiitoo suggests VVVVVV and Super Hexagon.
<kreyren> Meh too casual
<Chiitoo> Hmmm Telltale things will be more like it then methinks.
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<kreyren> 01: sleepymario told me that you might have same issue as i https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5782#issuecomment-447485904 can you help?
 01> kreyren: I'm confused, I already replied to the thread several times, is this not the same issue? as I said, I don't use the xpad driver myself, only xboxdrv.
 01> kreyren: admittedly I haven't yet released my patches to make xboxdrv more stable but it should work most of the time
<kreyren> Ah sorry just realized that you replied on github to me, sorry for bothering you. It worked for me on xpad i will try xboxdrv then
<kreyren> but last time it just turned my controller into a mouse iirc
 01> kreyren: I have tried to use various controllers on OpenSUSE without xboxdrv and it's been a total nightmare, never been able to get it to work right. I don't know what everyone else does.
 01> I pass these options to xboxdrv in /etc/conf.d/xboxdrv
 01> --detach-kernel-driver --mimic-xpad --force-feedback --deadzone=8192
<kreyren> emerging xboxdrv now will try, thanks again for help
 01> here's the branch i use https://github.com 01/xboxdrv/tree/gentoo
<kreyren> noted, making required kernel configuration now
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* kreyren is back
<kreyren> xboxdrv results in `USBController::USBController(): libusb_open() failed: LIBUSB_ERROR_ACCESS` investigating
<kreyren> using sudo fixed the issue
<kreyren> xbox360 controller seems to be detected
<kreyren> not recognized by steam, trying sudo xboxdrv --detach-kernel-driver --mimic-xpad --force-feedback --deadzone=8192
<kreyren> parsed `XBOXDRV_OPTS="--detach-kernel-driver --mimic-xpad --force-feedback --deadzone=8192"` in /etc/conf.d/xboxdrv same issue
<kreyren> checking branch
<kreyren> 01: You want me to install your branch instead of xboxdrv ?
<kreyren> Tried downgrading steam from beta.
<kreyren> same issue
 01> kreyren: please show "ls -l /dev/input"
<kreyren> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/m3wAbTxfU9h74oxQ9fUm/ and with invoked xboxdrv https://paste.pound-python.org/show/OiX335Xr9zhn0pK0jaNk/
<kreyren> 01
 01> kreyren: let me guess, you're not in the input group? not that you should be but didn't use my tip here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5782#issuecomment-424084769
<kreyren> i'm not in `input` group, https://paste.pound-python.org/show/gGaYSvazH1ey1SBNYuRj/ Sorry this is new installation and i missed it.
<kreyren> Should i add myself to input group now?
 01> no, use the plugdev group and add the udev rule as mentioned
 01> don't forgot to log back in (or use su)
<kreyren> ok
<kreyren> Created: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/qbPYG3FIhOy05asfdqPK/
<kreyren> invoking `killall X` to re-log
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* kreyren is back
<kreyren> xbox360 controller is still not recognized in steam (using big picture to test)
 01> hmm. install games-util/joystick, which has jstest, handy for testing.
<kreyren> sleepymario also recommended using autimicro, joystick emerged
<kreyren> `jstest [<mode>] <device>` what is device?
 01>  /dev/input/js0
<kreyren> [ 6196.698629] input: Xbox Gamepad (userspace driver) as /devices/virtual/input/input33 relevant?
<kreyren> ah ok
<kreyren> Axes:  0: -4292  1:  -929  2: -6968  3:  1372  4:-32767  5:-32767  6:     0  7:     0 Buttons:  0:off  1:off  2:off  3:off  4:off  5:off  6:off  7:off  8:off  9
<kreyren> outputs
<kreyren> simmilar to xboxdrv
 01> I have tried antimicro before but games will work better if it actually advertises as an xbox controller
<kreyren> noted
<kreyren> https://i.imgur.com/ulofNee.jpg output of jstest and xboxdrv
 01> okay, well that should work outside of steam at least. I checked the controller settings you see in big picture mode, I don't have the Xbox controller box ticked but it shows an "Unregistered" xbox controller below.
<kreyren> i have xbox controller box ticked
<kreyren> + generic
 01> i only have "guide button focuses steam" ticked
<kreyren> should i change it too?
 01> yeah
<kreyren> trying
 01> and restart steam
<kreyren> restarting now
<kreyren> not recognized
<kreyren> want otout of steam?
 01> bah. you could try replugging the controller and restarting xboxdrv to be sure but yeah, this is weird.
 01> any non steam games handy?
<kreyren> league of legends only, but it doesn't support controllers
<kreyren> In theory something from uplay or origin can be tested
<kreyren> or is there any game in gentoo repo that supports controller?
<kreyren> unpluged reciever results in "USBController::usb_write(): libusb_submit_transfer(): LIBUSB_ERROR_NO_DEVICE"
 01> yeah that's one of the things I fixed
 01> you'll probably need to restart xboxdrv
<kreyren> plugged it back and reinvoked xboxdrv in sudo
<kreyren> jstest also stopped with jstest: error reading: No such device
 01> did you still have jstest running when you ran steam?
<kreyren> yep
 01> hmm maybe that didn't help
<kreyren> trying again
<kreyren> jstest stopped, steam not recognized with xboxdrv
<kreyren> *xbox360 not recognized in steam
 01> most interesting games for controllers are commercial
<kreyren> i used steam-launcher, maybe using steam-meta?
<kreyren> (had same issue on steam-meta tho)
<kreyren> checking for non-steam game
<kreyren> Installing assassin's creed from origin
 01> wine complicates things
 01> I was hoping neverball might work but nah
<kreyren> i see
<kreyren> https://itch.io/games/free/input-joystick/platform-linux mby?
 01> if you don't mind the download, supertuxkart works :D
<02> try supertuxcart
<kreyren> Downloading
<kreyren> 5 sec left
<kreyren> extracting
 01> that must be some connection you have there
<kreyren> 500ms/s down and 10G/s on gentoo mirror xD
<kreyren> game is loading
<kreyren> controller works
 01> okay so must be steam then. this is interesting, iirc it's much like what i saw on opensuse. maybe I did something special on this system that I can't remember. :|
<kreyren> output of tuxkarts if it helps https://pastebin.com/caESFBEx
<kreyren> :/
<02> sounds like the next step is to try steam with a custon SDL controller mapping
<kreyren> Checking SDL
<kreyren> `INPUT_DEVICES="synaptic evdev"` was set. Relavant?
<kreyren> emerging sdl global use
 01> shouldn't matter, xboxdrv uses USB directly
<kreyren> Set SDL using media-libs/sdl-gfx ?
 01> and SDL2 doesn't use X input devices like SDL1 did, that's why you get those permission issues
<kreyren> noted
 01> not sure exactly what Steam itself does, I think that's complicated
<kreyren> 02: Isn't there some update that might broke it? iirc it worked on xpad+desktop profile before
<kreyren> meaning on steam
* 02 shrugs
<kreyren> o.o
<02> I only have a steam controller, and no other gamepads to test with
<kreyren> Steam controller works fine
 01> hold on, what is the first line that jstest reports?
<kreyren> checking
 01> 2nd actually
 01> after the version
<kreyren> https://pastebin.com/raw/x6D4UXN2
 01> hmmm that is interesting
 01> I get this
 01> Joystick (Microsoft X-Box 360 pad) has 8 axes (X, Y, Z, Rx, Ry, Rz, Hat0X, Hat0Y)
<kreyren> which reciever are you using?
 01> the official wireless one but it shouldn't matter, I would get that even with a non-xbox controller because xboxdrv fakes it
<kreyren> https://www.kuma.cz/microsoft-xbox-360-wireless-gaming-receiver-for-windows-pc?gclid=Cj0KCQiA6dLgBRDoARIsAJgoM4uIeax69y8wDitR9f_AJV3rYi3X8DzSkdWWIQjgg4UeN0PbkGIG8ZUaAoAREALw_wc using this one
<kreyren> i see O.o
<02> maybe mimic-xpad changes that?
<kreyren> more info `mimic-xpad`?
<kreyren> ah cli argument
<kreyren> . /etc/conf.d/xboxdrv has XBOXDRV_OPTS="--detach-kernel-driver --mimic-xpad --force-feedback --deadzone=8192"
 01> note I don't have CONFIG_JOYSTICK_XPAD enabled in the kernel
 01> or any of the jotstick drivers actually
<kreyren> 01: me neither it outputs when i emerged xboxdrv
<kreyren> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/Tm04apbbO1eRcyceZDD1/
<kreyren> $ uname -a
<kreyren> Linux localhost 4.18.18-gentoo-r1 #14 SMP Sat Dec 15 20:01:02 -00 2018 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
<kreyren> maybe INPUT_DEVICES="joystick" in make.conf ?
 01> nah
 01> that would probably make things worse actually
<kreyren> or trying USB 3.0 ?
<kreyren> (currently on USB 2.0 i think)
<02> usb 2 ports are generally less quirky when given a choice between 2.0 and 3.0
<kreyren> hmm.. trying it to eliminate variables
<kreyren> reciever not detected in USB 3.0
 01> my kernel has CONFIG_INPUT_JOYSTICK=n, which even surprises me a little
<kreyren> should i try?
 01> I'm not sure if that option actually does anything except expose the menu but worth a try
<kreyren> trying
<02> I'd give something like http://generalarcade.com/gamepadtool/ a try
<kreyren> recompile kernel or SDL first?
 01> that aside, I would focus on jstest reports a different name despite --detach-kernel-driver and --mimic-xpad, that doesn't make any sense
 01> what are your SDL2 USE flags?
<kreyren> SDL2 reports no gamepads found btw
<kreyren> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/aU8QNjVAs7968MhRMoAw/ just `sdl` global use afaik
 01> I mean this
 01> media-libs/libsdl2-2.0.9::gentoo  USE="X dbus gles haptic joystick libsamplerate opengl pulseaudio sound threads udev video vulkan wayland -alsa (-altivec) (-aqua) (-custom-cflags) -kms -nas -oss -static-libs -tslib -xinerama -xscreensaver"
<kreyren> set CONFIG_INPUT_JOYSTICK=n, recompiling kernel
<kreyren> checking
<kreyren> eix : https://paste.pound-python.org/show/V8K035Ahy3JU2xLdL2Sx/
 01> hmm supertuxkart doesn't use SDL, maybe that wasn't a useful test
<kreyren> What it uses?
 01> X input, I guess
 01> x11-libs/libX11 is a dep
<kreyren> meaning?
 01> you have the evdev X driver, which will pick up whatever is in /dev/input, and supertuxkart will see whatever X sees. that's how SDL1 worked, not relevant for newer stuff like SDL2.
<kreyren> noted
<kreyren> kernel recompiled, reboot?
 01> ok
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<kreyren> kernel updated https://paste.pound-python.org/show/1Q3muOmgMSc0clPwikew/
<kreyren> jstest https://pastebin.com/raw/k54e1nzd
 01> here's an idea
<kreyren> hmm?
 01> we're running in xboxdrv in daemon mode, which means it'll show a joystick device even when none is plugged in. that let's you plug it in after starting the game.
 01> if I unplug the receiver and restart xboxdrv, I can still run jstest against js0 and it'll still show the same
 01> see what happens when you do it
<kreyren> Trying
<kreyren> How do you invoke xboxdrv in daemon mode? using `rc-update add xboxdrv default` ?
 01> yeah
<kreyren> results in https://pastebin.com/raw/X2v5XEAE
<kreyren> ah my fault
<kreyren> i had it in terminal
<kreyren> xboxdrv is running as deamon
<kreyren> unpluging reciever
<kreyren> restart xboxdrv now?
<kreyren> (reciever plugged in)
 01> unplug, then restart
<kreyren> ok
<kreyren> [ERROR] XboxdrvDaemon::run(): fatal exception: USBController::usb_write(): libusb_submit_transfer(): LIBUSB_ERROR_NO_DEVICE                               [ ok ]
<kreyren>  * Starting xboxdrv ...
 01> okay, now try jstest
<kreyren> https://pastebin.com/raw/3yAYFCQr
<kreyren> (reciever not plugged)
 01> aha
<kreyren> O.O
 01> now you get the same as me
<kreyren> no bluetooth reciever is connected excluding reciever for G533
 01> keep jstest running and plug the receiver in, does it respond?
<kreyren> and steam controller
<kreyren> trying
<kreyren> jstest responding
<kreyren> xbox360 controller LED player 1
<kreyren> try steam?
 01> stop jstest then start steam
<kreyren> ok
<kreyren> not recognized by steam
 01> bleh
 01> still, weird how you needed to start it in that order. mine just works.
<02> are you using sdl 2.0.8 or 2.0.9
 01> 2.0.9 here but I've had this working for years
<kreyren> eix-installed -a | grep sdl
<kreyren> media-libs/libsdl-1.2.15-r9
<kreyren> media-libs/libsdl2-2.0.9
<kreyren> media-libs/sdl-gfx-2.0.26
<02> okay, non-factor
<kreyren> Try to activate xbox support in big picture and restart steam?
 01> I dunno, I've been trying to make your setup match mine but I'm out of ideas now
<kreyren> trying
<02> I don't think jiggling the steam input customization makes a difference until after it sees there's a controller
<kreyren> yep not recognized
 01> I'll have to try opensuse again when I have time
<02> maybe try LD_PRELOADing the steam runtime variant of libsdl2 when starting steam?
<kreyren> more info?
<kreyren> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/libstdc++.so.6 steam ?
<kreyren> ** LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/32/libstdc++.so.6 steam
<kreyren> (for 64bit libs?)
 01> we do patch steam with this but I'm not sure whether it affects Steam itself
 01> https://github.com/anyc/steam-overlay/blob/master/games-util/steam-launcher/files/steam-fix-joystick-detection.patch
<kreyren> 01: what about https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5782#issuecomment-425244631 ?
 01> I believe that was in relation to graphics drivers, not joystick
<kreyren> ah my fault
<kreyren> i'm out of ideas >.>
 01> it really shouldn't be this hard, huh
<02> something like LD_PRELOAD="/home/username/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libSDL2-2.0.so.0 /home/username/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libSDL2-2.0.so.0" steam
 01> I chose xboxdrv in the beginning because I wasn't using real xbox controllers back then, but it's still useful for the hotplug functionality
<kreyren> It worked on xpad OOTB before for me tho..
<kreyren> Should i try `LD_PRELOAD="/home/$USER/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libSDL2-2.0.so.0 /home/$USER/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libSDL2-2.0.so.0" steam` ?
<02> just hardcode it for the test
<02> no variables in LD_PRELOAD
<kreyren> not recognized https://pastebin.com/raw/YwQQTbmf
<kreyren> no variables like `LD_PRELOAD="" steam` ?
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<02> I ment like $USER
<02> in any case, looks like that wasn't a factor
<kreyren> what
<kreyren> ah ok
 01> isn't LD_PRELOAD : separated?
<02> seeing as it complained about both variants in the log, I guess it went through?
 01> suppose so
<kreyren> like i can try it.. separeted with `;` ?
 01> nvm, man page says either works
<kreyren> ok
<kreyren> btw. SDL program from 02 is unable to recognize xbox360 controller it seems
<02> yeah, I'm out of ideas,
<02> didn't have much to go on to start with
<kreyren> https://pastebin.com/raw/E1snXe1S
 01> I'll try it
<kreyren> `Environment variable "SDL_GAMECONTROLLERCONFIG" is not defined`?
<kreyren> probably software specific
 01> it's not but I don't think you need it
<kreyren> noted
<02> yeah, there's a gamecontrollerdb baked into sdl2
<kreyren> So should i try manually maping SDL ?
 01> that stupid tool bundles half a distro lol but yeah, it works
<kreyren> lol
<kreyren> Ok more info to how to make manuall SDL? (never done it on gentoo)
 01> it's not really the mapping that's the problem though, it's just not seeing it at all
<kreyren> ah i see
 01> at this point, I'd be trying strace
<kreyren> command for strace?
 01> strace with that test program, see whether it tries to open js0
<kreyren> ok
<kreyren> js0 and js1 is present in /dev/input btw
<kreyren> ah nwm that was Steam Controller
<kreyren> `strace -o $HOME/strace-of-jstest.log -f -s 10000000 jstest --normal /dev/input/js0` sufficient?
 01> yeah
 01> wait
 01> I meant the gamepad tool, sorry
<kreyren> from gamepad tool from 02?
 01> yeah
<kreyren> ok
<kreyren> emerging strace..
 01> we saw jstest work already, that earlier weirdness aside
<kreyren> ...
<kreyren> it detected xbox360 on root?
 01> I mean how it showed the wrong device until you unplugged it
<kreyren> https://i.imgur.com/bCGZ90C.jpg
 01> but even without xboxdrv, I'd expect SDL2 to pick up *something*
<kreyren> O.o
 01> oh I see
 01> have you been running jstest as root?
<kreyren> no as user
 01> this makes no damn sense
<kreyren> ikr
<kreyren> can i force steam to run as root?
 01> that's a bit extreme :|
<kreyren> just to verify?
 01> i guess so
<kreyren> like they have all my money on artifact anyway.. i have nothing to lose xD
<kreyren> how to force it?
<kreyren> it errors on root
 01> wait, I've noticed something
<kreyren> uploading strace on gdrive wgetpaste won't push it
 01> your paste here https://paste.pound-python.org/show/OiX335Xr9zhn0pK0jaNk/ showed js0 with the plugdev group but I also get a corresponding event device with plugdev too
 01> when I stop xboxdrv, they go away
<kreyren> it also says to be part of input group? i'm not in input group still
 01> I'm not either but you could try it
<kreyren> added to input group
<kreyren> Strace of gamepad-tool has 662.1 MiB O.o
 01> you might want to filter it with -e trace=file
 01> another thought, do you have sys-fs/eudev or sys-fs/udev?
<kreyren> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/OlqiqQTHe4HJdsAHk0jY/ both it seems?
 01> no you have eudev
 01> but i have udev. I wouldn't rule that out as a factor.
<kreyren> ok should i switch it?
 01> not sure how safe it is to switch
<kreyren> me neither.. but i can try..
<kreyren> in theory i can make a backup too
<kreyren> My gentoo has under 40G
<kreyren> and is on btrf
<kreyren> *btrfs
 01> handy
<kreyren> snapshot of /etc sufficient?
 01> I would snapshot the whole thing, udev is very important
 01> key files under /lib
<kreyren> ok
<kreyren> trying to figure out how to make snapshot..
 01> I've done it before but not recently. not overly familiar with btrfs.
<kreyren> trying to figure it out
<kreyren> . /sbin/btrfs subvolume snapshot / "/mnt/backup/backup_now" Create a snapshot of '/' in '/mnt/backup/backup_now'.. close enough
<kreyren> is USE="-udev evdev" enough to switch?
<02> running steam as root will only give you a bad day
<02> don't do that
<kreyren> ok
<kreyren> changed USE="-udev evdev -libinput" and invoked `emerge -uDU --with-bdeps=y @world"
 01> huh? don't do that...
 01> just change the package
<kreyren> what?
 01> you really want USE=udev
 01> just install udev instead eudev
<kreyren> i have that in desktop profile already i think https://paste.pound-python.org/show/V1g7PINnSppCfBSDeAOz/
 01> evdev has nothing to do with eudev lol
<kreyren> ah
<kreyren> sorry
<kreyren> also i dont have udev it seems, added it in USE and emerging
 01> that's interesting, it's used in a lot of packages
 01> including SDL2 but you had it enabled there?
 01> I need to go
<kreyren> i had SDL in GLOBAL_USE
<kreyren> ok thanks for help
 01> good luck. if I get around to trying opensuse again, i'll let you know if I find anything.
 01> my daughter uses it and we tried controllers but gave up and stuck with keyboard
<kreyren> Also yep udev is already present https://paste.pound-python.org/show/Qka0WBK6R9FpcGa5PdGs/
<kreyren> it seems to be problem with permission based on gamepad-tools tho
<kreyren> ok
<kreyren> thanks again for help