Calvin/Nathan DM on 12/12 about having people over for get together
Nathan:
Would you be available to host Christmas meme party?
Barno offered to earlier but he's out of town the weekend of the 22nd
Would the 22nd or 21st work for ya? I'm just trying to see if we got anything to work with, that's all
We could also do a new years thing and save it for then, do white elephant then if you couldn't host the 21st or 22nd
If cleanliness is a deciding factor I'll personally clean stuff up at the end of the night if ppl leave stuff
Calvin:
Uhh idk man, everytime I end up hosting parties for you guys, I end up regretting it.
Nathan:
Ight. That's up to you to then
All I can do is put my hat in for some extra clean up if I can help with that.
I'm more than sure if you set a bunch of ground rules for cleanliness/etc beforehand and say hey this needs to happen like this or I'mma not host that stuff anymore, I'm sure ppl would get the message.
But again that's up to ya since it's your place and all
Like setting ground rules in the party group beforehand I mean
Calvin:
I did that the last time, I had three people volunteer to help clean 2 of whitch did not and the people who did stay and help clean did practically nothing. My point is every time I have hosted a party for you guys Im left cleaning a good 95% of it up.
Nathan:
Then set more ground rules where instead of requiring volunteers, make everyone pick stuff up
I couldn't stay to clean for the office party bc my ride was leaving, and I need to take care of my father a lot more than I had to before
You had a lot of ppl join up for office party, so more ppl should of helped out
But me/gabe helped clean up after last year's new years/Christmas get together a bunch before we left.
I think it's just an issue with circumstances, and if you have a talk with ppl in the group and clarify that this shit NEEDS to be cleaned up after I'm sure ppl will be more than happy to help.
After any kind of get together there's gonna be mess but having ppl pull their weight and help clean mitigates that all.
ie by coming you agree to help clean up after the stuff y'all bring etc if you don't I just won't have ya over
If cleanliness is about picking up throughout the night and not just at the end I think it'll be way easier for y'all.
But again, it's ultimately your decision to host
So that's up to you.
Calvin:
Like I said before, what people have cleaned in the past including you and Gabe has been near nothing or cleaned completely incorrectly. My point is what you guys have done showed a lack of respect since you guys did not care if I was left cleaning everything up. Its  not just you or singularily anybody else. Its everybody as a whole, and yes I could threaten with not hosting anymore, but I really don't care about that, it was rude plain and simple.
Nathan:
And so what do you want people to do going forward? Do you want people to clean more?
Do you want an apology?
More respect?
I can't make anyone do that.
But you can, you gotta tell people how you feel otherwise they won't understand.
So tell the party group what you told me and they'll understand.
Calvin:
Im not looking for anything, people showed me they didnt care/apreciate it. Why should I keep doing it then
Nathan:
Because people enjoy hanging out/getting together?
What gave you the impression that people don't like doing stuff and hanging out?
Bc they don't clean up? That's just lazy shitheads
If people cleaned up whatever respective mess they made that would make it fine by you to host/have ppl over right?
Just lay that as a ground rule.
The people that join the Christmas/Nye groups are pretty much the same ppl on Saturdays. Make em clean up or tell em the boot.

You just said you don't wanna threaten with non hosting yet here you are asking for a reason to keep hosting.
Idk what you want man.
Calvin:
Nothing gave me the impression people dont like hanging out, as I have said multiple times before I have gotten and extreme lack of help from everyone in the group, even when I asked it. The lack of apreciation comes in when every one is more than happy to hang out trash the place and leave without lifting a finger. And as I said I am not threatening to stop hosting for people, I am done hosting parties for this group. My first statement was I dont want to keep threatening you guys just to get help, we are supposed to be friends.
Nathan:
You say you're done but it's basically the same ppl as a DND get together.
You gonna drop those too?
Calvin:
Im not going to lie I was very tempted to stop hosting for dnd, but people make a significantly less mess in DnD considering they are busy playing a game and there has always been less people at any party I have throw. Also I would not want to hinder Jakes campaign with a lack of space, as well as abanfon a story I have spent a year+ telling
rest assured if there was no dnd I would have stopped hosting