Free association, self-ownership, and the need to control

<+Suncloud> I don't find any value in having conversations with fred__w

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<dizzy_> rude comments are not acceptable.
<Suncloud> I wasn't being rude
<Suncloud> I was calling fred__w out on that fact that he is not interested in learning
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<dizzy_> leave the other chatters out of your conversations. if you cant stick to the topic, remain silent. do you understand what im saying?
<Suncloud> You and I have a different set of values on this topic
<Suncloud> I support people saying what they desire about other people in the room, while you do not
<Suncloud> I think these issues are best resolved with ignore, rather than devoicing or kicking
<dizzy_> so you will not abide by this request?
<Suncloud> I will, at times, say things that annoy you, yes
<Suncloud> And you will, at times, say things that annoy me
<Suncloud> If I annoy you too much I think you should put me on ignore, and I will do the same
<Suncloud> Otherwise, you can share your thoughts with me, as you have done here
<dizzy_> well, just so you understand, if you ignore an op, you can be banned
<Suncloud> I disagree with that value
<Suncloud> Self-ownership is the seat of all rights
<Suncloud> And a key manifestation of self-ownership is deciding who we have relationships with
<Suncloud> i.e., free association

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You were kicked from #christiandebate by dizzy_ (does not desire to follow the rules)