[12-Feb-20 12:00 AM] tazz#5495
home is out? Lets ban floon and pix before the end of the week

[12-Feb-20 12:19 AM] Quote#9846
mhm

[12-Feb-20 12:38 AM] tazz#5495
apix+zig seems aids we should consider that too

[12-Feb-20 12:39 AM] tazz#5495
Only viable ghost is frill which can only burn it and the steel and rock types in this meta are already overloaded as all hell

[12-Feb-20 12:39 AM] Quote#9846
I can see it as a potential suspect, though I'd like to see post-floon/sun for a while

[12-Feb-20 06:59 AM] BurntZebra#8147
Yeah not having gastly/abra/mienfoo/magnemite cuts down what can live an attack from zigzagoon to basically just normal resists and spritzee/timburr

[12-Feb-20 09:50 AM] brewfasa#4532
zig by itself seems aids

[12-Feb-20 09:51 AM] brewfasa#4532
not terribly hard to set up even without veils

[12-Feb-20 09:51 AM] brewfasa#4532
and consistent answers are 0

[12-Feb-20 10:07 AM] Coconut#8762
Does anyone have anything to add about banning Vulpix (freeing cherubi)? @everyone

[12-Feb-20 10:38 AM] Luthier#1578
ye

[12-Feb-20 10:38 AM] Luthier#1578
do it now

[12-Feb-20 11:03 AM] Quote#9846
I informed Tony of our plans.

[12-Feb-20 11:04 AM] Quote#9846
Just gotta review the rules to make sure we're doing everything correctly.

[12-Feb-20 11:11 AM] tazz#5495
nope

[12-Feb-20 11:43 AM] Quote#9846
here's a really easy way of doing this

[12-Feb-20 11:47 AM] Quote#9846
does anyone think something other than Vulpix should be chosen for the Sun ban? @everyone

[12-Feb-20 11:48 AM] Coconut#8762
no.

[12-Feb-20 11:48 AM] Quote#9846
also, did anyone actually oppose a drifloon ban? I don't think so but I wanna make sure

[12-Feb-20 11:48 AM] brewfasa#4532
no pix is the right move

[12-Feb-20 11:48 AM] Coconut#8762
no one's said anything and it's been over a week

[12-Feb-20 11:48 AM] Quote#9846
I just wanted to make sure I'm not misrepresenting anyone

[12-Feb-20 11:49 AM] Quote#9846
I know how madoka feels about her balloon

[12-Feb-20 11:59 AM] tazz#5495
hongliLast Thursday at 4:25 PM
react boot to quick ban and balloon if u think it should stay
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[4:27 PM]
bad meme aside i can't imagine anyone arguing in good faith that it's balanced w recycle

[12-Feb-20 12:14 PM] Quote#9846
cool

[12-Feb-20 12:14 PM] hongli#4483
i do love my balloon.

[12-Feb-20 12:14 PM] Quote#9846
I know, that's why I wanted to make sure

[12-Feb-20 02:08 PM] levi#6206
@starmaster didn’t you want chloro banned over pix

[12-Feb-20 02:09 PM] starmaster#8286
id prefer that but

[12-Feb-20 02:09 PM] starmaster#8286
clearly every1 else wants pix

[12-Feb-20 02:09 PM] starmaster#8286
so thats fine

[12-Feb-20 07:15 PM] jake#8907
i mean i am for pix but if you think there is merit in the other option it is worth talking about

[12-Feb-20 07:15 PM] jake#8907
i dont want us to come back to this in sic months complaining that we did it wrong now

[12-Feb-20 07:15 PM] jake#8907
six

[12-Feb-20 07:19 PM] hongli#4483
ninja said he'd prefer chloro ban over pix if that were on the table too i believe

[12-Feb-20 07:21 PM] levi#6206
Is there any real repercussion to revisiting in that scenario

[12-Feb-20 07:21 PM] levi#6206
It doesn’t seem like a high impact ban

[12-Feb-20 07:22 PM] levi#6206
I just want this out of the way so we can move on to veils

[12-Feb-20 07:44 PM] jake#8907
yea

[12-Feb-20 07:44 PM] jake#8907
the likelihood is that we will not revisit it

[12-Feb-20 07:46 PM] jake#8907
so i think it is fair to make sure we do the right thing now

[12-Feb-20 07:46 PM] jake#8907
and if there are no objections then that's fine

[12-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Coconut#8762
correct

[12-Feb-20 07:52 PM] levi#6206
My vote is still on vulpix but I’m fully willing to revisit if manual sun turns out broken

[12-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Coconut#8762
agree

[12-Feb-20 09:19 PM] BurntZebra#8147
I’m thinking vulpix+pony is probably going to be better than manual sun

[12-Feb-20 09:20 PM] BurntZebra#8147
Is manual sun any different than last gen

[12-Feb-20 09:22 PM] hongli#4483
no sashbra but

[12-Feb-20 09:22 PM] hongli#4483
also no sprout

[12-Feb-20 09:22 PM] levi#6206
But bulba is better than sprout

[12-Feb-20 09:23 PM] hongli#4483
isnt bulba

[12-Feb-20 09:23 PM] hongli#4483
weaker by a fair margin

[12-Feb-20 09:23 PM] hongli#4483
than sprout

[12-Feb-20 09:23 PM] levi#6206
Also it’d have to be manual sun that is broken I think

[12-Feb-20 09:23 PM] levi#6206
For chlorophyll to be the banned option over drought

[12-Feb-20 09:23 PM] levi#6206
Err

[12-Feb-20 09:23 PM] levi#6206
Vulpix

[12-Feb-20 09:24 PM] levi#6206
Also, looks like they have the same spa

[12-Feb-20 09:25 PM] levi#6206
But bulbasaur is bulkier and faster

[12-Feb-20 09:27 PM] levi#6206
Only specially bulkier since sprout can afford two extra filler points I think

[12-Feb-20 09:35 PM] hongli#4483
oh

[12-Feb-20 09:35 PM] hongli#4483
wtf yeah

[12-Feb-20 09:35 PM] hongli#4483
sprout sucks

[12-Feb-20 09:36 PM] hongli#4483
why didnt we use bulba back in gen6

[12-Feb-20 09:42 PM] Coconut#8762
no weather ball back then

[12-Feb-20 09:43 PM] hongli#4483
right.