20th May 2018 - Spoilerse

Leonardo Da Sidci - Yesterday at 10:16 PM
Today's topic - 20th May 2018

Submitted by Chrys

Spoilers. Do spoilers intristically  spoil a piece of media? Would you rather go into something with it not being spoiled, or not? And with the internet, it’s harder to avoid spoilers. Do you think that it’s just become impossible to avoid spoilers completely on the internet, with social media and hype culture and what not?

MentalSnowflake - Yesterday at 10:33 PM
Spoilers don't ruin the experience of a media for me, it is just a different one. You lose out on the surpise/shock, but in return you get a chance to see the small hints that lead up to the moment. And as atleast one research foud out, knowing how something ends doesn't create an experience that was less enjoyable.
I personally don't care for the spoiler itself, but I do mind being told the road to it.
Being one of the first of my peers to have seen DP2 and some not having watched Black Panther/Infinity Wars yet and having friends who are Marvel fanatics it becomes really difficult to discuss certain topics without spoiling some parts. I generally try to keep to certain 'dont not tell spoilers" timeperiods on places with broader audiences(like social media(Facebook) or places like this) for me personally 1 week for a populair currently airing show, 1-3 months on movies released in cinema's, 3-6 months for games, but it mostly goes by feeling.
And honestly it is not my job to keep you spoilerfree, it is a act of friendliness, but not-so-nice things to you if you get angry about spoilers of something that is years old..(edited)

UnknownSir - Yesterday at 10:43 PM
Sadly, avoiding spoilers is incredibly hard and is almost impossible to go a week without encountering any while surfing the web. Although it isn’t really that bad, Surely it does remove the climax of the event but when someone spoils a major detail of the plot of some movie/game I usually question myself to how the movie/game escalated in order for that to happen. That question is what pushes me to watch the movie even though most of the fun has been excreted from the horrors of the internet.(edited)

<Tepid,Name,Change> - Yesterday at 10:57 PM
There was a study a while back, where people were assigned stories to read. For one group, they were told the stories twist (or other details one might not "want" to know about on their first read) and the other groupd was told nothing. On average, the group who had the story spoiled reported more enjoyment out of reading it. I'm sure certain individuals will get more effected by spoilers than others. Also certain genres like mystery, where figuring out the ending/twist before being told can impart a sense of accomplishment, might be sullied by spoilers. Overall though, I think the act of "spoiling" a story is percieved as worse than it actually ends up being. I think it ties into human psychology, and how people generally react extremely negatively to being deprived of choices/options, and in this case it's percieved as being deprived of the ability to experience the story non-spoiled. I think it's less about the impact of spoilers on enjoyment of a story and more about the percieved loss of opportunity.

IndirectCogs - Yesterday at 11:22 PM
Knowing spoilers in a piece of media can very much enhance your enjoyment of that media, especially if it's well written. Well written works, such as Bioshock, or Breaking Bad, have TONS of foreshadowing. Knowing what the foreshadowing is leading up to can very well enhance the story for you, and draw attention to how well orchestrated a work is. Exceptions to this school of thought basically include any work that has a major "Twist" that was not foreshadowed or built up to. Spoiling Infinity War sucks because the entire point of the project was to consume as much of the Avengers mythos as possible and see the conclusion to that, so the spoiler WAS the product.  In most works, however, this type of twist does not work. On repeat viewings, the movies rarely hold up. That is why in my opinion, most spoilers don't actually ruin a movie experience for me. (Or game, book, or other.)

May 21, 2018
Kristian's Good Values - Today at 1:53 AM
For me, it would depend on the type of media. For a movie, I definitely don’t want it to be spoiled because I want my viewing experience to be affected by outside influences. For a video game, I don’t mind spoilers. I mostly play a lot of action games so while there might be a twist to the story that could’ve blown my mind, I don’t see that as important compared to gameplay. Additionally, a movie is an experience that is normally an hour or so. A spoiler can make me aware of a certain aspect of the movie and which would ruin the experience. When I buy a video game, I expect to sink in more time than I would watching a movie, so it helps me beforehand to know what I’m going to get into. In regards to being able to avoid spoilers, that’s tricky in this day and age. If something becomes the bees knees, everyone is going to talk about it and discussions could pop up anywhere making it difficult to ignore.

Till - Today at 3:52 PM
I don't think I ever got mad at someone spoiling stuff for me, except for maybe the end of Brazil, actually it wasn't being mad it was more like " Oh shit that's so smart " and I felt like I lost something knowing it before actually consuming the film, other than that i don't think spoilers are that big of a deal, might be because of what type of media i consume, i usually go with action heavy games, like ninja gaiden or devil may cry, or doom, games that...don't have terribly intricated stories and don't pretend to have one. I guess for me it also depends on what I'm consuming, Would I get mad if a game gets spoiled to me ? Nah not really, would I get mad if I waited like two years to read american gods, waiting for the italian version and then finding spoilers everywhere ? probably, but I wouldn't feel like I lost something because I'm a person that re-reads, and re-plays, and re-watches a lot of stuff, I'm a very slow ype of person when i think about art, so before i have a good opinion about something I usually experience it like 5 or 6 times, for some movies even over 10 re watches which kinda means i very rarely value my first time as something more than just a simple introduction, and doesn't matter nearly as much as when i already know the content and can genuinly concentrate on single parts without feeling like i lost something along the way.

Prosthetic Consciousness - Today at 4:04 PM
It's a bit late but I'll quickly add my two cents:

My favorite book series of late is The Horus Heresy, a prequel series that details the events leading up to 40k. As a result, the ending is Foregone. Horus will turn to Chaos, take half the legions with him, wage a bloody war on the Imperium killing many Primarchs in the process, and eventually slay Sanguinious, mortally wound The Emperor and be erased from existence, sending the Imperium into total chaos. Despite knowing how it ends, the fun comes in finding out how we get there.

Old Senile Mushrooms - Today at 5:56 PM
Well in my case, it really just depends on what's being spoiled. I'll avoid spoilers if I can but what kinds of spoilers do bother me is kind of weird and arbitrary, and I barely understand it myself. I definitely care if a game's narrative is being spoiled though, since that's usually the point of the game for me, but for stuff like platformers spoilers I also care about are what the levels look like or what kind of theme they have. (A sky level with a lot of cool sky themed stuff in it is a nice surprise for me sometimes for example.)(edited)