hahaha

[00:17]	Winged_Phone	Omg a cute guy smiled at me on the bus
[00:17]	Winged_Phone	Best day ever 10/10
[00:18]	Cyrix	pats Winged_Phone
[00:18]	Cecil	grumbles for he must spend three hours at the laundromat soon...
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[00:19]	Olivebirdy	Did you say hello? You should say hello next time
[00:23]	Winged_Phone	Yeah
[00:23]	Winged_Phone	Smile at awkward nerdy looking guys
[00:24]	Winged_Phone	Make their day
[00:24]	Winged_Phone	Repeat
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[00:25]	Twonk	This has never happened to me
[00:25]	Twonk	I need more women like you in my life
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[00:25]	Olivebirdy	If he's cute, why not?
[00:25]	Aurelius_Work	I used to message people on okcupid whose existence made me happier regardless of where they were in the world
[00:26]	Olivebirdy	aww
[00:26]	Twonk	That's exceedingly cute
[00:27]	Aurelius_Work	I ended up dating one of them for six months
[00:27]	Winged_Phone	Twonk: I LOVE the cute geeky awkward nerdy guys
[00:28]	Winged_Phone	Both my girlfriends were awkward nerdy autistics when I first met them
[00:28]	Winged_Phone	So cute
[00:29]	Nae	what's cute about being nerdy, awkward and autistic
[00:30]	Nae	would personally take a smooth talkin' confident chick who knows her stuff over an awkward one any day~
[00:31]	Twonk	I'm at least two of those things
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[00:31]	Twonk	Quite likely the latter too, time and professional opinion will tell
[00:31]	Winged_Phone	If you're an extroverted smooth talking chick already, it lets you take control of the interaction
[00:32]	Winged_Phone	And they're just very endearing and very nonthreatening and tend to love you very sincerely
[00:32]	Nae	<_<
[00:32]	Nae	the word you're looking for is "insecure" I think
[00:32]	Nae
[00:32]	Winged_Phone	And it's just... A nice feeling when you make their day
[00:33]	Nae	the opposite of a confident person
[00:33]	Olivebirdy	You're not /wrong/, Nae, but there's something nice about it.
[00:33]	Nae	oh I know
[00:33]	Olivebirdy	not what you just said, what you said a moment ago
[00:33]	Nae	I've encountered the type
[00:33]	Nae	dated the type
[00:33]	Winged_Phone	No that's not accurate
[00:34]	Winged_Phone	There are just people who aren't social enough to ever be truly at ease with interacting with others
[00:34]	Twonk	Ooh, I'm not insecure any more!
[00:34]	Nae	and saw said type get clingy as fuck
[00:34]	Nae	D:
[00:34]	Winged_Phone	By themselves they're total badasses, and as you get to know them you get to see that
[00:34]	Twonk	DOESN'T check one of the boxes
[00:34]	Winged_Phone	Yeahh that's fair. They do tend get clingy
[00:34]	Winged_Phone	But not all of them
[00:35]	Nae	mhm
[00:35]	Winged_Phone	And you can house train them to not be
[00:35]	Nae	"house train them"
[00:35]	Nae	<_<
[00:35]	Winged_Phone
[00:35]	Winged_Phone	rolls up newspaper, sexily
[00:36]	Nae	basically, I was being asked every moment where I was
[00:36]	Nae	whether I had eaten anything
[00:36]	Nae	what my plans were
[00:36]	Nae	why I was meeting my friends and not her
[00:36]	Nae	etc etc
[00:36]	Winged_Phone	What
[00:36]	Winged_Phone	That's a bit much even for me
[00:36]	ko`otli	yeesh
[00:36]	ko`otli	that's insane
[00:36]	Nae	it was cute and endearing at first
[00:36]	Nae	but...yeah
[00:36]	Nae	fortunately
[00:36]	ko`otli	that's not even cute, that's creepy af
[00:36]	Olivebirdy	what do you mean, 'by themselves total badasses'?
[00:36]	Nae	we weren't meant to be and she was in a 5 year long relation with a former best friend of mine
[00:36]	Winged_Phone	My clingy guys and girls are just like... "I don't want to say goodnight to you and leave because you're so cool" "you still have to go" "yeahh"
[00:36]	ko`otli	if a dude asked me that I'd be like "go screw yourself, that's my business"
[00:36]	Nae	dodged that bullet
[00:37]	Nae	and he's fucked up now
[00:37]	Nae	D:
[00:37]	Twonk	You know people who only open up when you're alone with them?
[00:37]	Nae	yeah
[00:37]	Twonk	@ob
[00:37]	ko`otli	(can confirm what Ashley's saying btw, was that person at one time)
[00:37]	Nae	but yeah, that chick was the type that everyone *loved*, until you got to know her
[00:37]	Nae	;-;
[00:37]	Winged_Phone	Olivebirdy: they're generally very intelligent and dedicated in solitary pursuits like programming or art or whatnot
[00:38]	Olivebirdy	ah
[00:38]	Nae	^ that I can get into
[00:38]	Nae	I dig that
[00:38]	Winged_Phone	And you get to see them in their element if you get close enough to them
[00:38]	Nae	but on the other hand
[00:38]	Nae	that's kinda my own personality
[00:38]	Nae	so D:
[00:38]	Nae	people who complement you are best
[00:38]	Winged_Phone	Yeah I much prefer being the Tattletale in the relationship
[00:38]	Winged_Phone	The loud one
[00:39]	Cxaxakluth	hate it
[00:39]	Cxaxakluth	so much
[00:39]	Cxaxakluth	my internet
[00:39]	Nae	my best friend is an extrovert who is a sports enthusiast etc. I'm the one who reads books instead of going to nightouts
[00:39]	Vern|GM	Would you go out with me for a night, Nae
[00:39]	Vern|GM	I can show you the world
[00:39]	Nae	depends
[00:40]	Nae	how high would I be
[00:40]	ko`otli	Shining shimmering spleeendid
[00:40]	Nae	would I *have to* be
[00:40]	Vern|GM	We can get drunk together
[00:40]	Vern|GM	If you want to do that
[00:40]	Nae	always~
[00:40]	Winged_Phone	You'd be about... yea high
[00:40]	Vern|GM
[00:41]	Nae	you're in Berlin right?
[00:41]	Vern|GM	Yes
[00:41]	Winged_Phone	places hand over her waist
[00:41]	Nae	I have an uncle who lives there
[00:41]	Nae	so if I'm ever in town
[00:41]	Nae	I'll hit you up
[00:41]	Nae
[00:41]	ko`otli	giggity?
[00:41]	Vern|GM	His his name Karl?
[00:41]	Winged_Phone
[00:41]	Nae	but you're a kid tho
[00:41]	Nae	no
[00:41]	Nae	lol
[00:41]	Vern|GM	because I only know one Indian guy, his name is Karl
[00:41]	Nae	...
[00:41]	Winged_Phone	LOL
[00:41]	Vern|GM	in Berlin, that is
[00:41]	Nae
[00:41]	Winged_Phone	an Indian named Karl? That's priceless
[00:41]	Vern|GM	ikr
[00:41]	Winged_Phone	Ah okay
[00:42]	Nae	parents probably wannabe white
[00:42]	Vern|GM	No, man
[00:42]	Vern|GM	The way his wife looks they 100% arranged that marriage for him
[00:42]	Winged_Phone	coughs
[00:42]	Winged_Phone	named herself Ashley
[00:42]	Nae	lol
[00:42]	Winged_Phone	In our defense
[00:42]	Winged_Phone	White people are awesome
[00:42]	Nae	sigh, this time next year I think most my friends would be married
[00:42]	Nae	D:
[00:43]	Mishie	Ohyeah, I keep forgetting that you're indian.
[00:43]	Nae	also
[00:43]	Winged_Phone	It's natural to want to be one
[00:43]	Nae	no
[00:43]	Mishie	Nae: rip trooper
[00:43]	Winged_Phone	Haha
[00:43]	Winged_Phone	You guys have SEEN pictures of me
[00:43]	Vern|GM	You can always marry me, Nae.
[00:43]	Vern|GM
[00:43]	Nae	gaaaaaaay
[00:43]	Winged_Phone	Do I not look Indian? I'm curious
[00:43]	Vern|GM
[00:43]	Cyrix	you do Winged_Phone! a bit at least
[00:43]	Vern|GM	idk how you look, Winged_Phone
[00:43]	Cyrix	but you are very tall!
[00:43]	Nae	wait, are you Indian Winged_Phone ?
[00:43]	Mishie	You do, I'm just forgetful
[00:44]	Cyrix	not something i accociate with indians tbh
[00:44]	Cyrix
[00:44]	Cyrix	but that might be ignorance speaking
[00:44]	Mishie	Nae: Winged was the one that was tilted by glernaj talking about naan bread or whatever
[00:44]	Vern|GM	Yeah Cyrix is german
[00:44]	Vern|GM	Bet you she can't see the difference between Arabs and Turks
[00:44]	Nae	My younger brother is over 6 feet tall now
[00:44]	Nae	D:
[00:44]	Mishie	and how he eats it like a sandwich
[00:44]	Nae	is jelly
[00:44]	Vern|GM	To be fair, there's literally none, but all Arabs will be angry if you call them Turks, all turks will be angry if you call them Arab
[00:44]	Cyrix	@Vern|GM i can
[00:44]	Vern|GM	Cyrix: LITERALLY NO DIFFERENCE
[00:44]	Nae	Mishie: LOL
[00:45]	Cyrix	@Vern|GM I want to disagree with you and be upset! let me! logic has no place in this discussion right now
[00:45]	Mishie	I think Winged_Phone may have repressed that though
[00:45]	Winged_Phone	Oh god
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[00:45]	Elara	guys wut
[00:45]	Nae	Elara
[00:45]	Winged_Phone	Don't remind me
[00:45]	Elara	wut is happening in this channel
[00:45]	Nae	White people aren't awesome
[00:45]	Nae	discuss
[00:45]	Cyrix
[00:45]	Elara	all people are awesome
[00:45]	Elara	done
[00:45]	Chime	everybody is awesome
[00:45]	Nae	no
[00:45]	Nae	false
[00:45]	Elara	high-fives Chime
[00:45]	Mishie	Nae: we eat naan bread like a sandwich
[00:46]	Mishie
[00:46]	Chime	everything is awesome, when you're part of a team~~~
[00:46]	Nae	Mishie pls
[00:46]	Chime	^5 elara!
[00:46]	Elara	this is just because you're a grinch Nae
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[00:46]	Elara	's not my fault
[00:46]	Nae	I'm a cynic
[00:46]	Nae	there's a difference
[00:46]	Nae	D:
[00:46]	panth	Elara is not awesome
[00:46]	Nae	well, also a pessimist
[00:46]	panth	Elara could have been awesome
[00:46]	Nae	but lets not go there
[00:46]	Nae	^
[00:46]	panth
[00:46]	Chime	oh right it's "sprint-planning meeting" friday, need to head to work earlier than usual
[00:46]	Chime	out!
[00:46]	Elara	only grinches think there's a difference between grinches and cynics :@
[00:47]	Nae
[00:47]	panth	Sprint-planning?
[00:47]	Chime	a sprint is like a group of bugfixes/enhancements comprising a subset of a software version release
[00:47]	Chime	ours are on a fortnightly cycle
[00:48]	Chime	and we have meetings on every other fri to decide which tickets go in the next sprint
[00:48]	Chime	actually out!
[00:48]	Twonk	Is that an alternative to or part of scrum tactics?
[00:48]	Twonk	I always forget
[00:49]	panth	Either way it sounds like one of those fancy business terms, like "synergise" or "six hats" or whatever
[00:49]	Nae	sprints are basically
[00:49]	Nae	a few people sitting together and quickly fixing small to medium sized issues
[00:50]	Nae	the "oh yeah, gotta take care of that too" ones
[00:50]	Winged_Phone	Nae, I'm Indian yeah
[00:50]	Nae	Where from?
[00:50]	Twonk	India
[00:50]	Nae	<_<
[00:50]	Winged_Phone	Born in Bangalore, grew up in Dubai
[00:50]	Nae	India is...quite big
[00:50]	Nae	I've been to Bangalore
[00:50]	Winged_Phone	Born Tarun Moni
[00:50]	Winged_Phone	South Indian Brahmin, Tamil
[00:50]	Nae	and I *might* get to go to Dubai this month
[00:50]	Winged_Phone	Iyer
[00:51]	Nae	also
[00:51]	Nae	you're like the third Brahmin I've met online
[00:51]	Nae	the other two are Bihari Brahmins
[00:51]	Nae
[00:51]	Nae	CASTE SYSTEM PERSISTS
[00:51]	Winged_Phone	I suspect the majority of Indian emigrants are Brahmin
[00:51]	Nae	all Indians online are Brahmins except me
[00:51]	Nae	D:
[00:51]	Winged_Phone	It's part of the caste culture to seek knowledge
[00:51]	Vern|GM	rip
[00:51]	Winged_Phone	So we scatter over international universities
[00:51]	Winged_Phone	And often settle
[00:52]	Elara	castes are evil
[00:52]	Nae	kthnx
[00:52]	Nae	@Elara
[00:52]	Nae
[00:52]	panth	Thus sprach Zarathustrelara
[00:52]	Nae	Zarathustra*
[00:52]	Nae	spach*
[00:53]	Nae	wait, sprach is correct
[00:53]	panth	sprachs at Nae
[00:53]	Nae	:{
[00:53]	Winged_Phone	http://imgur.com/eIF4e7v
[00:54]	Winged_Phone	http://imgur.com/U8q7qNP
[00:54]	Nae	is from New Delhi
[00:54]	Winged_Phone	Are you Indian too, Nae?
[00:55]	Nae	[20:21:31] Nae:	all Indians online are Brahmins except me
[00:55]	Vern|GM	no, Nae is obviously a British citizen.
[00:55]	Nae	lol
[00:55]	Vern|GM	Pretending to be Indian.
[00:55]	Nae	no joke
[00:55]	Nae	we actually had an Indian dude in the chan once
[00:55]	Winged_Phone	Sorry, missed that
[00:55]	Nae	and we got the Brit to pretend to be an Indian
[00:55]	Mishie	I'm pretty sure you were online when we were linking pics Winged_Phone
[00:55]	Mishie
[00:55]	Nae	and I pretended to be a Brit
[00:55]	panth	Well, in a way all Indians are ex-British citizens...
[00:55]	Nae	trolled the fuck out of the poor kid
[00:55]	Nae	enjoyed that so much
[00:56]	Nae	Vern|GM, you saw the logs right?
[00:56]	Twonk	Panth, if Indians are anything like the Irish you don't wanna go there
[00:56]	Nae	they're in the epic IRC thread I think
[00:56]	Winged_Phone	Mishie: there were a lot of new names to assign to a lot of new faces back then
[00:56]	Vern|GM	Nope, Nae
[00:56]	Mishie	fair
[00:56]	Winged_Phone	I was new
[00:56]	Nae	check the epic IRc thread
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[00:56]	Mishie	Well, Nae's was the brown one
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[00:56]	Vern|GM	Will do
[00:56]	Winged_Phone	What's your varna, nae?
[00:56]	Nae	I have no clue
[00:57]	Winged_Phone	I only know Brahmins myself
[00:57]	Winged_Phone	Gotcha
[00:57]	Twonk	Link to said epic thread?
[00:57]	panth	Twonk: the Indians are /much/ less notorious than the Irish re: car bombs though
[00:57]	Nae	different forum Twonk
[00:57]	Mishie	Twonk: not a #parahumans thing
[00:57]	Twonk	Ah
[00:57]	Nae	Winged_Phone: I guess technically I'm a Sikh "Jatt" D:
[00:57]	Nae	but like
[00:58]	Nae	no turban, hair etc, and I'm anti-theist
[00:58]	Nae	<_<
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[00:58]	Winged_Phone	Man I remember when the only reason people knew about Tamils were because of the Sri Lankan terrorists
[00:58]	Nae	LOL
[00:58]	Winged_Phone	And people would ask me if I was from Sri Lanka
[00:58]	Winged_Phone	Oooh Sikh!
[00:58]	Twonk	I'm annoyed Irish terrorism is best known for car bombs. We basically revolutionised guerilla warfare! No recognition /s
[00:58]	Winged_Phone	Are you male?
[00:59]	Nae	Yes
[00:59]	Winged_Phone	I totally don't remember the picture
[00:59]	Mishie	rip
[00:59]	Winged_Phone	Huh, always assumed you were a girl
[00:59]	Winged_Phone	Til!
[00:59]	Nae	Twonk: did you?
[00:59]	Nae	re: guerilla warfare that is
[00:59]	panth	TIL Twonk self-identifies with Irish terrorists...
[00:59]	Nae	^
[01:00]	Vern|GM	Didn't you assume Mishie was a girl as well, Winged_Phone
[01:00]	Nae	tbh
[01:00]	Twonk	I USED /S
[01:00]	Nae	Mishie has a girly name
[01:00]	Vern|GM	ikr
[01:00]	Winged_Phone	I generally assume names ending in vowels to be girls
[01:00]	Shemetz	Kyle
[01:00]	Nae	like Phone
[01:00]	Winged_Phone	They flow like girl names
[01:00]	Winged_Phone	I mean, the syllable
[01:00]	Vern|GM	name is Ali.
[01:00]	Winged_Phone	Not literally the letter
[01:00]	panth	Prince Ali!
[01:00]	Nae	Did I ever like you the Ya Ali song Vern
[01:00]	panth	Fabulous he, Ali Ababwa!
[01:00]	Winged_Phone	Hah, Vern are you Arab?
[01:00]	Nae	link*
[01:01]	Shemetz	It's because it's very common to end a female name with "a" or "i", wing
[01:01]	panth	Winged_Phone: he's Lesbianese
[01:01]	Winged_Phone	Lol
[01:01]	Shemetz	other vowels aren't really that common for that
[01:01]	Mega|Wright	So, what do you think my gender is, Winged?
[01:01]	Nae	non-existant
[01:01]	Nae	checkmates Mega|Wright
[01:01]	Mega|Wright	Oh, is your name suddenly 'Winged', Nae?
[01:01]	panth	No no, clearly the first half of Mega|Wright is female and the second half is male
[01:02]	Nae	nu
[01:02]	Winged_Phone	Male I guess
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[01:02]	Vern|GM	Winged_Phone: No, I'm German.
[01:02]	Quanfinigon	Mega is a skeleton
[01:02]	Vern|GM
[01:02]	Twonk	We did, yeah.
[01:02]	Nae	keep telling yourself that Vern|GM
[01:02]	Nae
[01:02]	Twonk	Check "Modern terrorism": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_terrorism
[01:02]	Vern|GM	I'm trans-German, Nae
[01:03]	Quanfinigon	way to put us on a watchlist twonk
[01:03]	Vern|GM	Stop supressing my identity.
[01:03]	Nae	So a trans person from Germany
[01:03]	Nae	gotcha
[01:03]	Vern|GM	:v
[01:03]	Winged_Phone	Vern identifies as German?
[01:03]	Nae	weird right
[01:03]	Quanfinigon	but wasn't born that way?
[01:04]	Winged_Phone	Ethnically or culturally?
[01:04]	Nae	nop
[01:04]	Winged_Phone	It's not that weird
[01:04]	Tadpole	Transculturalism?
[01:04]	Winged_Phone	I'm dating two therians
[01:04]	Mishie	iirc Vern was born in Germany to Arab parents
[01:04]	Winged_Phone	I think that's just called assimilation
[01:04]	Quanfinigon	at leasst they aren't thespians
[01:04]	Winged_Phone	I'm pretty Canadian these days
[01:04]	Twonk	"Therians"?
[01:04]	Nae	jfc I need to stop commenting on news/magazine articles on facebook
[01:04]	Winged_Phone	Twonk: identify as animals
[01:04]	Nae	random people start sending friend requests
[01:05]	Nae	and they're never the hot ones
[01:05]	Nae
[01:05]	Winged_Phone	If Vern says he's German, he's German afaic
[01:05]	Twonk	You need to stop using Facebook as anything but a vaguely convenient messaging and event management service
[01:05]	Nae	lol
[01:05]	Nae	it used to be like that
[01:05]	Nae	but I'm more active on fb now
[01:05]	Nae	only way to keep tabs on people
[01:05]	Winged_Phone	Man I always get flattered by all the dudes who add me to flirt with me
[01:06]	Winged_Phone	Wish they weren't all brown
[01:06]	Mishie	w h o a
[01:06]	panth	That's racist
[01:06]	Winged_Phone	They're all from, like India
[01:06]	panth	Besides, you know, once you go brown you never go... down?
[01:06]	Mishie	stares at Vern|GM
[01:06]	Nae	...
[01:06]	Nae
[01:06]	Nae	panth pls
[01:06]	Winged_Phone	So none are local. None even speak entirely reasonable English
[01:06]	Nae	that would be terrible
[01:06]	Vern|GM	WOW
[01:06]	Winged_Phone	And also it sucks knowing that part of my appeal to them is that I'm Indian too
[01:07]	Winged_Phone	I want to be attractive, not ethnically convenient
[01:07]	Twonk	One can be both
[01:07]	Tadpole	Winged_Phone: In my experience the two often go hand in hand.
[01:07]	Nae	LOL
[01:07]	Tadpole	The majority of people are attracted to their own ethnicity.
[01:07]	Twonk	I mean, I know I'd want to be with someone who speaks my native tongue
[01:07]	Tadpole	Not sure if there's some evolutionary reason for that.
[01:07]	Winged_Phone	Maaaybe. I still get suspicious
[01:08]	Winged_Phone	There is yeah
[01:08]	Winged_Phone	GSA
[01:08]	Nae	GSA?
[01:08]	Winged_Phone	Genetic Sexual Attraction is a real effect
[01:08]	Twonk	My native tongue is English, so that's not particularly hard, but the point stands
[01:08]	Winged_Phone	Only limited by the Westermarck Effect
[01:09]	Winged_Phone	Like, if it was even just an Indian from Ontario who told me I seemed cool
[01:09]	Winged_Phone	That'd be good enough
[01:09]	Aurelius_Work	Winged_Phone : humor--my gf looks more ethnically jewish than I do, buuuut she's not
[01:09]	panth	Winged_Phone: maybe it's because you're a Brahmin and they're all seeking to marry upwards, caste-wise?
[01:09]	Winged_Phone	But nooo it's always some loser living in Bihar
[01:09]	Nae	panth: no
[01:09]	Winged_Phone	Who thinks I'm so beautiful
[01:09]	panth	shrugs
[01:09]	Nae	my head starts to hurt when people start talking about the caste system like they get it
[01:09]	panth	Hey Aurelius_Work
[01:09]	Winged_Phone	Panth: it's pretty isolationist even upwards
[01:09]	Winged_Phone
[01:10]	Nae	I've lived here my whole life and I don't fully get it
[01:10]	Winged_Phone	Nae, it was a reasonable model to him :x
[01:10]	panth	Nae: all I really know is that there are layers and it's really hard to move between layers? And the most bottom layer is like, completely shat on
[01:10]	Nae	no
[01:10]	Winged_Phone	... Ish yes
[01:10]	Nae	that's simplifying
[01:10]	Nae	very very much
[01:10]	Winged_Phone	As someone from the top layer
[01:10]	Winged_Phone	We shit on the lower layers
[01:10]	Tadpole	Rude.
[01:10]	Winged_Phone	Ish, several top layers
[01:11]	Winged_Phone	But like, I'm not sure you can marry up
[01:11]	Winged_Phone	Between varnas
[01:11]	Nae	not to mention, irrelevant except in only a few cases
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[01:11]	Winged_Phone	Your kids will just be polluted by the lower one
[01:11]	panth	What's a varna
[01:11]	Winged_Phone	The caste
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[01:11]	Winged_Phone	Let's just use caste
[01:11]	Nae	the most visible form it takes for young Indians is when they go to college, there's a reservation (affirmative action)
[01:12]	Winged_Phone	There's also a lot of discrimination, nepotism and arranged marriage market segmentation
[01:12]	Nae	the "shit upon the lower caste" thing doesn't happen
[01:12]	Winged_Phone	It totally does
[01:12]	Nae	unless you live in a village in the middle of nowhere
[01:13]	Winged_Phone	I know people who've been part of it
[01:13]	Winged_Phone	Even my parents kind of take part in it
[01:13]	Winged_Phone	They run an international software solutions vendor
[01:13]	Winged_Phone	Out of the UAE
[01:13]	Nae	yeah, the ones who leave and whose idea of the country is same as when they left
[01:13]	Winged_Phone	They exist, Nae
[01:13]	Twonk	And caste is decided by what? Family? Birthplace? Economic background? Is there a racial element?
[01:14]	Winged_Phone	You can't pretend they don't count
[01:14]	Nae	the consensus is that ironically
[01:14]	Nae	the Indians of the diaspora are more conservative than the Indians in India
[01:14]	Nae
[01:14]	Nae	much much more
[01:14]	Winged_Phone	Twonk: family
[01:14]	Winged_Phone	Some race by extension
[01:14]	Winged_Phone	But it's blood
[01:14]	Twonk	Right
[01:14]	Winged_Phone	My cast is my birthright
[01:14]	Nae	...
[01:14]	Nae	ok I'm out
[01:14]	Twonk	So if you're born to two parents of differing varnas, what are you?
[01:15]	Winged_Phone	I mean that in the most evil, ironic sense
[01:15]	Winged_Phone	No idea, no one told me
[01:15]	Winged_Phone	Being a Brahmin basically sorta makes me a pure blood in the Harry Potter verse
[01:15]	Winged_Phone	And there are plenty of people in my extended family who are sort of cunts about it
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[01:16]	Winged_Phone	I'm not happy about it
[01:16]	Winged_Phone	Nor would I crap on anyone from a lower caste, nae
[01:16]	Tadpole	Winged_Phone: So, you're a pureblood but you don't hang with Malfoy?
[01:16]	Winged_Phone	I try not to
[01:16]	Twonk	She's like Sirius
[01:16]	Winged_Phone	In practice... It's hard. It sinks roots into you
[01:16]	Winged_Phone	It takes ages to remove them all
[01:17]	Winged_Phone	To make sure you're not a bad person
[01:17]	Winged_Phone	My parents were relatively nice
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[01:18]	Winged_Phone	They're still dicks in the "oh some of my best friends are lower class, but they just /think stupider/ and you'd never MARRY one"
[01:18]	Twonk	Were?
[01:18]	Winged_Phone	were in the sense of the time period where they were my guardians
[01:18]	Winged_Phone	They're still sorta that
[01:19]	Twonk	So it's a more rigorous, formalised equivalent to socioeconomic classes in Western countries?
[01:19]	Winged_Phone	And they've kind of translated and rationalized it into this secular classism
[01:19]	Winged_Phone	And they don't want me to marry someone blue collar for example
[01:19]	ThalAI	This is a weird talk to walk in on.
[01:19]	Winged_Phone	Yeah pretty much
[01:19]	Winged_Phone	Imagine socioeconomic class, except blood based
[01:19]	Winged_Phone	Like nobility
[01:20]	Tadpole	It really is, Thal.
[01:20]	Mishie	I'm no expert
[01:20]	Tadpole	It sounds a little medieval.
[01:20]	Mishie	But I'm pretty sure that it's far more complex than that
[01:20]	Winged_Phone	Inter caste violence is a big deal
[01:20]	Winged_Phone	Oh yeah.
[01:20]	Winged_Phone	Acid attacks
[01:21]	Winged_Phone	They're like the classic show-the-lower-castes-their-place thing
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[01:21]	Winged_Phone	All the acid attacks in India are generally cross caste branding