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  1. CGG RIGHT NOW opened memo on board TAZZPROBLEMS.
  2. CURRENT universallyCognizant [CUC] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
  3. CUC: Hello.
  4. CUC: Let's talk.
  5. CGG: uh
  6. CGG: okay?
  7. CUC: Well, let's wait for the other Pact members.
  8. CUC: I invited them in too.
  9. CGG: mh
  10. CUC made GG an OP.
  11. CURRENT transcribedGuardian [CTG] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
  12. CTG: KEK
  13. CUC: Hello.
  14. CTG: this is a thing
  15. CUC: Let's talk.
  16. CUC made TG an OP.
  17. CUC: Well, let's wait for Bomber.
  18. CUC: I invited him in too.
  19. CTG: are you... how upset are you at this
  20. CGG: ıs thıs just a bıtchfest about tazz's unforeshadowed shenanıganry
  21. CUC: EXTREMELY???
  22. CUC: I will tell you right now.
  23. CGG: oh okay
  24. CUC: RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
  25. CTG: um
  26. CUC: If Crystal souldies.
  27. CTG: okay.
  28. CUC: Straight up Error 413, GM not found, I am leaving DTG.
  29. CUC: I've been thinking about this.
  30. CUC: This may well be the push that tips me over.
  31. CTG: oh boy
  32. CTG: okay
  33. CUC: Others can pick up the shattered pieces of Terraria.
  34. CUC: Such a shame.
  35. CUC: Others can pick up the shattered pieces of DTG0 and their plots.
  36. CUC: Such a shame.
  37. CTG: alright look there's not much to worry about
  38. CTG: we just haev to make sure
  39. CTG: that we dont souldie
  40. CUC: I am out if that happens.
  41. CUC: Yeah.
  42. CUC: Just.
  43. CTG: tazz said it himself, the coffins should be reasonably easy to kill if we do it RIGHT NOW.
  44. CUC: How the FUCK did he think that was a good idea????
  45. CTG: see
  46. CTG: DTG2 worked because
  47. CTG: split and I bounced ideas off of each other.
  48. CTG: we brainstormed.
  49. CUC: This is punishment heaped upon punishment for summoning Omega Flowey.
  50. CTG: I had someone who listened to my ideas and gave feedback first.
  51. CTG: tazz doesn't have someone to do that for him.
  52. CTG: so anything he thinks is a good idea goes through.
  53. CUC: That is no excuse.
  54. CTG: in DTG2's case, a bad idea went through if split and I both thought it was good but it turned out not to be
  55. CTG: which didn't happen that often
  56. CTG: but ocassionally did
  57. CUC: see trial 4's beginning
  58. CTG: the output at which tazz is creating bad ideas seems to be abit more than ocassionally
  59. CUC: oh yes
  60. CUC: despite his rather good idea which you know and generic doesn't.
  61. CUC: and which I cannot say more about.
  62. CTG: I think it's EXTREMELY clever.
  63. CTG: if he can pull it off.
  64. CUC: ^
  65. CGG: kek
  66. CTG: it would validate the game's existence in its entirety.
  67. CTG: but
  68. CTG: hm.
  69. CTG: do you just not want to die because you dont want to die
  70. CTG: or is there something relating to crystal specifically
  71. CTG: that would make a souldeath really fucking bad
  72. CUC: No, this is... just another symptom. Well kinda.
  73. CUC: I'm attached to Crystal.
  74. CUC: As with any Author Avatar.
  75. CUC: Think if this happened to Build or if, for Tazz, this happened to Xi.
  76. CUC: But, well, this seems too much.
  77. CUC: For what, summoning a boss that triggers a FATE?
  78. CUC: For that, people's major RP characters are suddenly under threat?
  79. CTG: yeah
  80. CUC: It's completely idiotic to me, and if Tazz goes through with it he has lost all my respect.
  81. CTG: in bird culture, this is what's known as a dick move
  82. CUC: ^HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
  83. CTG: ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
  84. CGG: ha
  85. CTG: but really though I just
  86. CUC: If I were in Tazz's position, this would not even come to mind.
  87. CUC: So, yeah.
  88. CTG: I don't want anyone else to leave.
  89. CTG: I'm worried that if one more major person goes
  90. CTG: someone who has a big impact on the community
  91. CTG: then the entire game will fall apart like a house of cards.
  92. CTG: and my legacy will be for nothing.
  93. CUC: LET THE WORLD BURN.
  94. CUC: Nah.
  95. CUC: I get that.
  96. CTG: but at the same time
  97. CUC: But, do you want this on your legacy?
  98. CTG: ...no.
  99. CTG: I mean
  100. CTG: at the same time, I feel like
  101. CTG: tazz has done some pretty shifty things.
  102. CTG: I don't think DTG is dying per se.
  103. CTG: (it's quite active)
  104. CUC: (yes)
  105. CTG: it's just that it's not quite going in the direction I think it should, I guess?
  106. CUC: Yeah.
  107. CTG: tazz is doing some cool things but when I heard the FATE
  108. CTG: when he outlined it to me
  109. CTG: there was one thought going through my head
  110. CTG: "this is pretty extreme."
  111. CUC: so the FATE as outlined was this?
  112. CTG: he didn't mention the souldeath aprt
  113. CUC: he didn't say anything about -- yeah.
  114. CTG: at least I dont think he did
  115. CTG: I mean, I wasnt willing to sacrifice all our work
  116. CUC: Did he PM it to uyou?
  117. CTG: all the months we spent planning the boss
  118. CUC: If so, go and check.
  119. CTG: no, it was a pesterchum convo
  120. CTG: but the thing was
  121. CTG: the worst thing was
  122. CUC: Then check the convo.
  123. CTG: he knew.
  124. CTG: he knew I wouldnt be willing to sacrifice everything.
  125. CURRENT abyssalUnderlord [CAU] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
  126. CAU: ??????
  127. CUC: And, with that in mind, he did this.
  128. CAU: did i miss something?
  129. CUC: Sending you a log, Bomber.
  130. CUC: yes you did.
  131. CTG: UC: he didn't mention the souldeath part, and he was vague about the entities in general
  132. CUC: http://pastebin.com/mKeQi8vi
  133. CTG: he only gave me names and said they were eldritch abominations with time powers meant to kill OF quickly
  134. CUC: Bomber:
  135. CUC: Read that.
  136. CUC made AU an OP.
  137. CTG: and that htey can fast forward of's phases
  138. CUC: That at least is reasonable./
  139. CGG: whee
  140. CUC: Springing THIS on us?
  141. CUC: It is NOT.
  142. CTG: then what do we do?
  143. CTG: ask him politely to reconsider?
  144. CUC: Who fucking knows.
  145. CGG: hm.
  146. CUC: I've said what I will do if he goes with it.
  147. CGG: TG:
  148. CTG: we should make our own DTG
  149. CTG: a better one
  150. CGG: what are the odds
  151. CTG: with backjack
  152. CTG: ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
  153. CUC: hahah.
  154. CTG: GG: odds of what
  155. CGG: that we could get off asterısm mımıckıng a coffın
  156. CTG: oh
  157. CTG: hm.
  158. CUC: you mean ampersand
  159. CGG: and then set up a quıck dt extract
  160. CTG: tazz said it's possible
  161. CTG: I think he said we SHOULD do it
  162. CGG: fuck up the battlefıeld
  163. CTG: GG: oh uh.
  164. CGG: and just
  165. CGG: gtfo
  166. CTG: I dont know if we can do that
  167. CTG: I mean
  168. CGG: wıth our lıves ıntact
  169. CTG: you guys are making it sound likhe you want to fuck up as much shit and then leave
  170. CUC: yeah
  171. CUC: screw tazz's plans
  172. CTG: and by leave I mean quit
  173. CUC: not that!
  174. CGG: I mean, ı'm not quıttıng
  175. CTG: oh okay
  176. CGG: I mean leavıng *thıs sıtuatıon*
  177. CUC: I will only leave if Crystal dies.
  178. CUC: But if he does...
  179. CUC: Given he's basically my avatar in DTG...
  180. CAU: alright so halfway through this log here what did Tazz change to OF again again again again?
  181. CUC: I am just. GTFOing.
  182. CTG: and I might join you.
  183. CUC: I might stick around.
  184. CUC: You guys are my friends.
  185. CGG: so bomber
  186. CUC: Better friends than anyone I have IRL.
  187. CGG: tazz has stated
  188. CTG: indeed ;-;7
  189. CUC: But, well.
  190. CGG: that we're gettıng possıbly soulkılled
  191. CAU: oh
  192. CGG: whıch whıle "survıvable"
  193. CUC: I won't be participating in much DTG again.
  194. CUC: Other than the memo.
  195. CAU: well yeah you don't.... you don't just do that
  196. CGG: ısn't really anythıng any of us want
  197. CAU: you don't just come back from souldeath
  198. CUC: So, what do we do.
  199. CUC: The DT-extraction and GTFO plan?
  200. CUC: A second Rebellion?
  201. CTG: we get soulkilled if our respective coffin kills us during soulform
  202. CAU: Raise enough hell?
  203. CTG: no no look
  204. CTG: I want to be frank.
  205. CUC: Hell, I might just leak The Secret if that happens, just before leaving for good.
  206. CTG: if I'd known you guys were pulling something like this during DTG
  207. CTG: 2
  208. CTG: I would fucking flip out.
  209. CAU: What, a boss like OF?
  210. CTG: the LAST thing tazz wants to see is his players rebel.
  211. CTG: no no
  212. CTG: I mean discussing plans to leave and cause major hijacks because of something I'd done
  213. CUC: The Rebellion, you mean.
  214. CUC: Ah.
  215. CUC: Yeah.
  216. CTG: and leaking THE SECRET OF THE VOID (OH AMY GOPD WHAT A PUNFA OPUSHOFHS) would be even bigger of a dick move than tazz soulkilling us.
  217. CTG: honestly.
  218. CGG: dıd we actually hıde the memo
  219. CTG: now we did.
  220. CUC: It's hidden.
  221. CUC: I made sure of that when I made uit.
  222. CUC: Have yourself a pastebin: http://pastebin.com/mKeQi8vi
  223. CURRENT ambiguousTheoretician [CAT] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
  224. CAT: Thanks.
  225. CUC: http://pastebin.com/mKeQi8vi
  226. CUC: For Fseftr.
  227. CUC: So, thoughts?
  228. CUC made AC an OP.
  229. CUC made AT an OP.
  230. CAT: Thoughts shall be given once I have completed the reading of the log.
  231. CUC: Kk.
  232. CURRENT absoluteCoolness [CAC] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
  233. CAC: ^^
  234. CAT: Ugh, this REALLY makes it seem like Tazz is some sort of manipulative bastard trying to punish one of you as a warning to the playerbase right here. On line 126.
  235. CUC: He just never told us until OF was already here.
  236. CUC: But yeah.
  237. CGG: hılarıously ıt's all whıttlıng down towards me
  238. CGG: ıt's probably not even gettıng that far though
  239. CAT: Alright, I've read it now.
  240. CAT: From the perspective of someone outside the problem, I can safely say: your concerns are justified, and you have every right to rebel, if need be.
  241. CUC: Hah.
  242. CURRENT totallyTenacious [CTT] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
  243. CTT: I'm here
  244. CUC made TT an OP.
  245. CAT: I'm your 'cool uncle who lit the house on fire as a kid' reference.
  246. CUC: Welcome.
  247. CTT: Welcome, me!
  248. CAT: Except I'm neither cool, nor an uncle, though a possible pyromaniac.
  249. CUC: Ok, as a condition. Nobody shares this with Tazz unless all of the Pact members that were here give clearance.
  250. CTT: Understood.
  251. CUC: Either we surprise him with going Asriel and fucking off or surprise him with a massive rebellion.
  252. CAT: You think I both trust him enough and talk to him enough to drop this shit on him?
  253. CUC: This will be a surprise either way.
  254. CAC: We kept #DTT a secret, did we not
  255. CTT: Uh
  256. CAC: Here's what I think.
  257. CUC: I guess I'll just keep updating that pastebin with all the logs of this here.
  258. CAC: If you leave /after/ he kills your character.
  259. CAC: Some players might be upset, but you may just come off as ragequitting.
  260. CAT: ^
  261. CAC: If you're going to quit, you should do it because the possibility of your PC being killed exist.
  262. CAC: s
  263. CAT: It is important to space them out slightly.
  264. CAT: Also that.
  265. CUC: Hah.
  266. CAT: Anyhow, if you do end up dead, give it a week, and then drop.
  267. CAT: Two weeks, tops.
  268. CUC: If I leave due to Crystal being killed, there will be a RP standpoint for it.
  269. CUC: And it will happen IMMEDIATELY.
  270. CUC: I already have the ideas.
  271. CUC: Heh. One last hurrah.
  272. CAT: Hah, I never had an RP standpoint for dropping out repeatedly. Just "I'm feeling too depressed to get out of bed and be a productive member of society."
  273. CAC: Also, I don't necessarily think you should do a "rebellion"
  274. CTT: I feel like that's a very big word for this.
  275. CAT: Yeah.
  276. CTT: I mean, meaning big.
  277. CTG: I dont think we should rebel.
  278. CUC: mh
  279. CTT: More like, a gathering of people with a concern.
  280. CTG: as a former GM, the last thing a GM wants to see is a rebellion
  281. CAT: But, if need be, there is always good in a bit of rebelling.
  282. CAT: Really, you'd just be depriving Tazz of valuable players.
  283. CAT: Which is ultimately the same thing.
  284. CAU: It should be a last resort tbh.
  285. CAC: If you think the possibility of your RP character being soulkilled is worth leaving over, you should definetly do so.
  286. CAC: Anything else, eh...
  287. CAU: Ultimately our goal is still going Asriel. Because that would be hilarious.
  288. CTT: I never had much in the way of rebellion. With no pesterchu, and no forge, all complaints went on my thread and were addressed (not always correctly), so I've never had to deal with what's happening now.
  289. CTT: Granted, this ISN'T a rebellion. Right?
  290. CAC: You don't know people weren't in group PMs 
  291. CAT: Push comes to shove, you can do whatever the hell you want with my soul, which Twin technically owns the rights to.
  292. CUC: Not quite.
  293. CAC: There were dozens of them /s
  294. CUC: Yeah. Not really yet.
  295. CTT: I... guess you're right.
  296. CTT: Wait, seriously?
  297. CTT: DOZENS?
  298. CAC: no
  299. CTT: You had me going for a minute
  300. CUC: It's more of a set of people with a common grievance.
  301. CAC: I had a /s
  302. CTG: /afk
  303. CURRENT tyrannicalGradient [CTG] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
  304. CTG: yo
  305. CUC: Yo, Split
  306. CUC made TG an OP.
  307. CTT: Hey, red man
  308. CTG: so twin has alerted me about this whole soul killing shit
  309. CUC: Let me get you a log
  310. CAT: Yeah, we had the Anti-Tazz Federation PM, the DTT-MCFE PM, the whole Operation: Kill the Pony, hello Split, and so on.
  311. CUC: Updated one that is
  312. CTG: here's my two cents
  313. CTG: the idea of the coffins being able to have an edge against a certain soul is interesting
  314. CAC: 2k was talking about himself
  315. CGG: hey remember that tıme we all dıed
  316. CGG: and people complaıned about ıt
  317. CTG: but someone being permabanned from the game
  318. CTT: OH
  319. CGG: 
  320. CTG: is just uncalled for
  321. CTT: OOHHHH
  322. CUC: yeah
  323. CTG: like, seriously
  324. CTT: HOW DARE YOU
  325. CTG: what
  326. CAC: Here's the thing, even assuming those two occurences are identical, GG.
  327. CUC: the idea of banning someone from RP permanently is yeah.
  328. CTT: I'm blue. BLUE!
  329. CUC: http://pastebin.com/mKeQi8vi
  330. CAC: This is a point in a trend.
  331. CAT: Something major changed as a result of the complaining, though.
  332. CTG: are you talking about trial 4, where twin killed off all the side characters?
  333. CGG: yeah
  334. CTG: ok
  335. CUC: I'd just give the associated coffin the ability to instakill its associated soul.
  336. CGG: I mean, that wasn't really permanent anyways
  337. CTG: here's the difference between that and this
  338. CUC: That isn't too bad.
  339. CUC: But this..
  340. CUC: yeah.
  341. CUC: Much too much.
  342. CAT: See, these two guys here, they can listen to criticism.
  343. CTG: me and twin did it without really thinking
  344. CTG: we were like "oh yeah, wouldn't it be a whole 'OH SHIT' moment if we did that"
  345. CTG: and then you guys went "OH SHIT"
  346. CTG: but not the good kind
  347. CTG: you were like "OH SHIT THIS SUCKS ENOURMOUS DICK"
  348. CTG: /back
  349. CAC: Honestly, I think most players overreacted to that.
  350. CUC: hah
  351. CTG: and twin and i were like
  352. CTG: ok
  353. CTT: Hey green man
  354. CTG: ASSASSIN'S CREED SUCKS ENORMOUS GORILLA DICK.
  355. CTG: and we changed it
  356. CAT: Hah, we forgive you. Or, I do, at least.
  357. CTG: had to channel dunkey there for a minute, sorry
  358. CTG: because we listen to the playerbase
  359. CTG: or at least, try to
  360. CUC: yeah, I feel like people are attached to their RP characters
  361. CTG: hello slate man
  362. CTG: your color is slate, right?
  363. CUC: and this is too much
  364. CTG: I think that's what its officially listed as in the echeladder
  365. CAT: According to the Great Lime Authority, yes.
  366. CTG: whenever people had criticism to give (which tended to happen near the end of the game) we took it into account
  367. CTG: tazz...
  368. CTG: very rarely does that
  369. CAU: WINston.
  370. CAC: I'd personally say Trial 3 was worse than everyone dying.
  371. CTG: from what i've seen
  372. CAU: "Hi there. Hi there. Hi there."
  373. CUC: well we haven't actually confronted tazz with this yet
  374. CAC: But maybe that's just because my characters had become expendable
  375. CUC: but yeah
  376. CTT: He has vision. As compared to me, who made everything up on the fly.
  377. CTG: twin and i did a general field wipe without too much thought put into it
  378. CUC: True.
  379. CUC: He does have vision.
  380. CTG: tazz is deliberately trying to make six players' lives a living hell for summoning a boss
  381. CUC: But the problem is, when does vision become a problem?
  382. CAT: But you have to let the players pitch in on the vision.
  383. CTG: that's the thing
  384. CTG: dtg2, after a certain point, focused more on the story than on the game
  385. CTG: or at least got equal focus
  386. CAU: i'd make references to an old mario MSPA that is unfortunately dead but none of you would get it probably.
  387. CTG: balancing gameplay with player interaction is easy
  388. CTG: entities
  389. CUC: Ok, should we take this to the Pact PM? Well, not this conversation, but this info and this idea.
  390. CTG: balancing story is not
  391. CUC: ^
  392. CTT: I guess you could SORT OF say the same about DTG1, if you mean that crazy stuff was happening for basically the whole endgame
  393. CTG: and it almost always ended up horribly in dtg2
  394. CTT: But, yeah, not with story
  395. CAT: But it did not, because things like this were not constantly happening.
  396. CAT: Or, at least periodically, even.
  397. CTG: i'm talking about piono
  398. CAT: Please continue. I kind of interrupted you, sorry.
  399. CTG: it's fine
  400. CTG: piono was a beast
  401. CTG: a tumor
  402. CTG: brought about due to twin's negligence and my own
  403. CTG: our inexperience
  404. CTG: piono didn't mean any harm
  405. CTT: I'm uncomfortable with describing him like cancer, but I had to help Twin with him on occassion
  406. CTG: but he caused a lot of it
  407. CUC: plot tumo, not literal
  408. CTG: yeah
  409. CTG: plot tumor
  410. CTG: describing someone as literal cancer is way out of line, even for me
  411. CTG: 
  412. CTG: but
  413. CTG: split was described as cancer multiple times
  414. CTG: and you now carry his handle
  415. CTG: therefore
  416. CTT: Good. That's what I thought you meant
  417. CTG: you're literally cancer
  418. CTG: ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
  419. CTG: but yeah
  420. CTG: proof that i'm better than you
  421. CTG: ok stop
  422. CTG: yes
  423. CTG: seriously
  424. CTG: yes
  425. CTG: a big sign where we fucked up
  426. CTG: it's just
  427. CTG: a BIG sign
  428. CTG: oh what
  429. CTG: was where piono began to control vriska and gamzee after act 2
  430. CTG: yep.
  431. CTG: I explicitly said "hey you shouldnt use the trolls."
  432. CTG: explitictly.
  433. CTG: and he used the trolls.
  434. CTG: after a certain point twin and i had to go "oh well, that's a thing that's happening and we can do jack shit about it"
  435. CTG: it was through PM but it was still a thing that happened.
  436. CTG: twin this is my story pls don't interrupt
  437. CTG: and then piono has the gall to say "wow the scratch did nothing"
  438. CTG: oh sorry
  439. CTG: ;-;
  440. CTG: wait a sec
  441. CTG: did he actually say that
  442. CTG: at some point iirc
  443. CTG: heh
  444. CTG: ok so correct me if i'm wrong
  445. CTG: but in piono's eyes, the game was different than it was for everyone else
  446. CTG: in his eyes, what he did should be encouraged, expected
  447. CTG: he wanted people to contribute to the game in the same way he did
  448. CTG: and was confused when others didn't
  449. CAC: I agree.
  450. CAT: Yep.
  451. CTT: By trying to be the major driving force, right?
  452. CTT: Well
  453. CTG: that's accurate.
  454. CTG: he explitictly said as much.
  455. CTT: Yeah
  456. CTG: well i'd love to stay and chat
  457. CTG: and i will stay
  458. CTG: but not chat
  459. CUC: hah
  460. CTG: have to finish homework
  461. CAT: Hah.
  462. CTG: i'll be back
  463. CTT: See ya Split!
  464. CTG: /afk
  465. CUC: yeah I gotta homework too
  466. CUC: I'll stay/
  467. CTT: This is a hidden memo, right?
  468. CAT: Yes.
  469. CTG: (yes)
  470. CUC: just in-- yep.
  471. CAC: Hmm, what was the original #DTT about again
  472. CUC: And invite-only.
  473. CAC: I don't even remember
  474. CUC: I was thorough.
  475. CAT: The original DTT. Hmm.
  476. CAT: I literally cannot recall.
  477. CGG: hm.
  478. CTT: Uhhh..
  479. CUC: I'll check logs
  480. CGG: we were pıssed off about somethıng
  481. CAT: Oh, it was the thing with Bomber's entities, yeah?
  482. CTT: Maybe it wasn't that important, if we can't recall it?
  483. CGG: nah
  484. CTT: It seemed major at the time...
  485. CUC: no idea
  486. CGG: not bomber
  487. CAT: And other repeated incidents.
  488. CUC: hmm
  489. CAT: Surely that was going on at the same time, no?
  490. CAC: Wow, my bad memory hascaused mass introspection
  491. CGG: oh
  492. CGG: repeated ınstances of nopıng
  493. CGG: I thınk?
  494. CAT: Ah, yes.
  495. CAT: Everything is flooding back now.
  496. CAC: Has he gotten better with taht
  497. CTG: the thing with bomber's entities
  498. CTG: a meh schedule
  499. CTG: not listening to others
  500. CAU: well that was one incident.
  501. CAT: Has any of that changed since I left?
  502. CAU: i was cool with him putting a stop to the Grim Patrons because
  503. CAU: the next turn they'd be 400something, then 800... and so forth
  504. CAU: bleh it was so long ago what was the entity in question again?
  505. CAT: In all seriousness, have those things changed at all since I vanished in the public eye, for better or for worse?
  506. CAU: i feel bad cause this should probably be something i need to remember :V
  507. CUC: hah, no idea
  508. CUC: Have they changed?
  509. CUC: This incident suggests not.
  510. CAU: honestly AT things were okay until OF happened
  511. CTG: ^
  512. CUC: ^^^
  513. CAU: at least, they seemed okay
  514. CAT: Hmm.
  515. CTT: Yeah, OF changed things. A lot.
  516. CTG: at least i got to design some kickass art for it
  517. CTG: that was fun
  518. CTT: That was cool!
  519. CAT: Ultimately, there is a large overlying problem, possibly. Tazz has a vision, and he kind of wants to stick to it as closely as he can, one way or another.
  520. CUC: good job btw split
  521. CTG: thank
  522. CTG: twin also worked on it as well
  523. CAT: I never saw it. :/
  524. CTG: really? i'll yell at twin to send you a link
  525. CAT: Thanks.
  526. CUC: https://i.imgur.com/Ggkn69O.png
  527. CUC: I think this is it
  528. CTG: oh, thank
  529. CAT: Ooh.
  530. CAT: Nice.
  531. CTG: that drawing was VERY hard to do
  532. CTT: I can imagine
  533. CTG: and I now have the utmost respect for whoever had to make and ANIMATE everything for the real omega flowey fight
  534. CAU: partially my fault since i suggested Twin make him look like his Beta design 
  535. CTG: it's fine
  536. CTG: I liked doing that
  537. CTG: or rather, split did
  538. CTG: we both helped make it
  539. CTG: yeah i made the soul canisters and plant eyes
  540. CTG: twin you should crosspost that to r/undertale
  541. CGG: kek
  542. CTG: ha
  543. CGG: oh god
  544. CGG: remember that subreddıt nobody used
  545. CAT: Yes.
  546. CGG: that fseftr made as a joke
  547. CTG: ?
  548. CTG: kek
  549. CAT: Vividly.
  550. CAU: like that time he posted art to Gravity Falls and.. well i gues they liked it 
  551. CUC: yesy
  552. CTG: yeah it got like 25 upvotes
  553. CTG: not bad all things considered
  554. CAU: thought GF was a bigger subreddit than that :V
  555. CTG: it was because it wasnt a shitpost
  556. CTG: I know it in my gut
  557. CAT: Alas, we just need to blackmail more people next time.
  558. CTG: but ANYWAY.
  559. CTG: what's the game plan.
  560. CAU: here just take the same art, paste stan's face over it and make a "JOAJE" title
  561. CTG: if we want to do something about this
  562. CTG: and if everyone agrees we should
  563. CTG: we need to think of something.
  564. CTT: We! Need! Plan!
  565. CTG: I don't think we should to a hardcore rebellion.
  566. CAT: ^
  567. CTT: We could politely talk to Tazz about it
  568. CTG: something like last time would work.
  569. CTG: we PM him.
  570. CUC: Hm.
  571. CTG: if he refuses,
  572. CTT: I mean, he hasn't actually killed anybody yet
  573. CAU: Well if we talk to tazz he'll know something is up
  574. CTT: He might not even be planning to.
  575. CAT: Intervention before rebellion.
  576. CAT: Rebellion being mass-exodus, of course.
  577. CAC: Personally, I think this is just a point in a trend and
  578. CUC: If he refuses, Ampersand mimics a Coffin, we fully charge a DT Extractor use, grab a player SOUL, or just get Erelye's from Twin, go Asriel, and fuck off?
  579. CTT: Possibly the worst-case scenario for any forum game
  580. CTG: I think he might be planning to
  581. CTG: TT: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
  582. CAC: Lets say you get Tazz to say soulkilling won't happen
  583. CTG: UC: probably
  584. CAT: Hmm, if all regulars ended up quitting DTG, would we create a new all-us memo?
  585. CAC: You got Tazz to conceed last time as well.
  586. CAC: How's that worked out?
  587. CTG: hm.
  588. CUC: But if after all that Crystal still dies, then fuck DTG for all I care.
  589. CAT: That's an excellent point.
  590. CTG: he seems to be treating bomber better
  591. CTG: what were the other things
  592. CAU: fuck i still don't know what entity
  593. CAT: But this still happened.
  594. CAU: he shafted
  595. CAT: Creed, wasn't it?
  596. CAU: grim patrons were handled fine, i didn't care cu- oh yeah it was Creed I think
  597. CAT: Yeah.
  598. CAU: now to remember what actually happened :V
  599. CUC: CREEEED!
  600. CTG: yeah honestly i don't see how he thinks killing off all of the major players' main characters is anything but a bad idea
  601. CUC: hah
  602. CAC: Was it?
  603. CAU: no no it was before Creed
  604. CAT: I think so, yeah.
  605. CAC: I'm pretty sure I was the one who "shafted" creed 
  606. CAU: Creed was charge-locked or some shit I think, and so I switched the companion charge to the baneblade itself.
  607. CAT: You did indeed, AC.
  608. CAU: yeah no that wasn't tazz it was fseftr
  609. CTG: cause if they die, what are you going to do?
  610. CTG: create a new character from scratch?
  611. CAU: eh, not mad about it. but holy fuck why can't i remember
  612. CAT: Hah, hell no.
  613. CTG: that's easy
  614. CTG: exactly
  615. CAT: Light everything on fire, and get the hell out of dodge.
  616. CTG: I'll just play as $@()*$^!@#$ and do the glitch-analogue early
  617. CAT: Would he allow that, though?
  618. CTG: I wouldnt care at that point
  619. CTG: would you?
  620. CAU: i know I'll play as a secret from my plot and totally ruin everything  except tazz knows about it too so...
  621. CAC: Well, the rest of you, how's the first concession worked out?
  622. CAT: Hmm.
  623. CUC: I wouldn't care at that point, yeah.
  624. CAT: Probably not, nah.
  625. CTT: We just politely ask Tazz not to kill anyon
  626. CTG: ^
  627. CTT: *anyone
  628. CAT: Then again, I don't want to mess things up for players who had nothing to do with it.
  629. CTG: we should just try again, alright?
  630. CTG: that's what I think the best option is.
  631. CTG: i get that there has to be consquences for summoning a boss like this
  632. CUC: yeah
  633. CAT: This is a cycle of madness.
  634. CTG: but not like this
  635. CTG: once again tell tazz to listen to players before acting.
  636. CUC: talk to tazz
  637. CTG: IF the same thing happens again
  638. CAU: if Tazz wanted a slightly more interesting way of punishing us he'd have us all dragged to Limbo and we'd do some stupid sidequest there :V
  639. CTG: and he refuses to listen to usa nd ticks off everyone?
  640. CAU: after OF dies I mean
  641. CTT: Who will do it? Should me and Twin do it as the GM ambassadors
  642. CTG: then we have a SERIOUS fucking problem, I mean.
  643. CAT: Like AC said. This is a trend on a graph.
  644. CTG: yeah
  645. CTG: TT: well.
  646. CTG: UC was the person who had complaints in the first place.
  647. CTG: he should probably come along too.
  648. CAC: Do you really want to have to confront Tazz every three months.
  649. CUC: hell, my suggestion is 'the corresponding coffin deals 50k damage to OF-when-vulnerable if it kills their soul'.
  650. CTG: AC: no.
  651. CTG: this is going to be an ouroborous sustained by a steaming hot plate of fuck you
  652. CTG: so if we have to confront him again
  653. CAU: was it the Horrors of Tzeentch that were screwed over?
  654. CTG: and it's obvious tazz won't change
  655. CTG: then we will.
  656. CAU: he kinda nerfed their damage output. a lot.
  657. CTT: Yeah, he should also come.
  658. CTG: if tazz didn't listen before, he won't again
  659. CTG: alright.
  660. CAT: Nah, those did kind of okay.
  661. CUC: Alright.
  662. CTG: should the other members of the pact come along?
  663. CAT: Also, yeah.
  664. CAU: doggy was irrelevant and that was just unfortunate circumstance :V
  665. CAT: More extreme action must be taken.
  666. CUC: Other Pact members, yeah.
  667. CAU: don't worry I plan to bring him back again.
  668. CUC: Those in here at least.
  669. CTT: All six of them? Hmmm... not really my decision.
  670. CTG: alright
  671. CTG: GG and AU were here so
  672. CTG: TO BE FAIR
  673. CUC: Mythic and Ire weren't in this convo.
  674. CTT: We'd be facing him with a massive crowd if we did it, though
  675. CTG: you've only confronted him once
  676. CTG: it'll be TT, TG, GG, AU, and UC.
  677. CTG: that's five people.
  678. CTT: Yeah, that's a massive crowd.
  679. CUC: Ok, piratepad for writing this stuff up?
  680. CTG: hm.
  681. CTG: maybe you all should confront him nicely again
  682. CTG: if he won't budge
  683. CTG: TG: THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING YOU MONKEY FUCK
  684. CTG: THEN go full force.
  685. CTG: *WE'RE
  686. CUC: Let's critique each other's responses.
  687. CTG: ok
  688. CTG: :)
  689. CTG: I'm not in the mood to write this out kek
  690. CAC: I don't know what going full force means, but really.
  691. CTT: That sounds weird.
  692. CAC: I /really/ don't think you should "rebel"
  693. CAC: Just leave.
  694. CTG: idk threaten to leave or something
  695. CUC: We aren't.
  696. CTG: yeah
  697. CAT: Sex-analogues aside, you need to do something, just not rebel.
  698. CUC: We're just talking for now.
  699. CTG: what does rebel even mean
  700. CTG: I'm not leaving
  701. CTG: in this context
  702. CUC: Telling Tazz about these problems.
  703. CTG: keep playing but ignore everything tazz does?
  704. CAT: DON'T make things miserable for the other players. Make them a problem for just Tazz, if it comes down to it.
  705. CTT: The greatest rebellion eber
  706. CTG: I'm leaving when this game crashes around me
  707. CTT: Telling our leader about our problems
  708. CUC: hah
  709. CTG: kek
  710. CAT: Hah.
  711. CUC: ok, who's making the pm
  712. CAT: "Me."
  713. CTT: Isn't the game crashing around us what we're trying to stop?
  714. CGG: 3lazy
  715. CAC: If Tazz shows that he's willing to kill PCs for no real reason despite beign confronted.
  716. CTG: alright wait just wait.
  717. CTG: that's the point
  718. CTG: TT: yes.
  719. CUC: Exactly, TT.
  720. CAC: I don't see how you can stay
  721. CTT: Yep.
  722. CAC: Even if you don't die.
  723. CAC: This time
  724. CTG: AC: he hasn't been confronted YET. that's the thing.
  725. CTG: if he doesn't change this time
  726. CTG: then we leave.
  727. CAC: ...that's what I was saying
  728. CAT: I swear, the third installment of "You Can't Teach a Pony New Tricks" is going to be a fucking catastrophe.
  729. CTG: okay.
  730. CAC: And you disagreed with me
  731. CTG: good
  732. CTG: ...whops
  733. CTG: how many people are going to be involved in this
  734. CTG: ugh now I'm confused?
  735. CTG: anyway we all seem to be in agreement.
  736. CTG: we make a PM
  737. CTG: voice our concerns
  738. CUC: Five, TT, Twin, me, Generic, and Bomber.
  739. CTG: if he refuses, we take "action"
  740. CAT: I don't think I CAN be justifiably involved, so not me.
  741. CAC: ^
  742. CTG: UC: TT said that would be a massive crowd
  743. CTG: something we're trying to avoid
  744. CAT: Nah, count the shame factor in.
  745. CTG: I think it should be you, TT, and I
  746. CTT: Five IS a massive crowd for a forum game
  747. CAT: Have a crowd.
  748. CTG: how many people were there last time
  749. CAC: Eh, don't do that.
  750. CUC: Hm.
  751. CUC: Ok.
  752. CTG: last time it was TT and I
  753. CTG: iirc
  754. CAC: Tazz loves confrontation.
  755. CTG: oh
  756. CUC: The three other GMs.
  757. CUC: Or former GMs in your cases.
  758. CTG: ^^^^
  759. CTG: tazz thrives off of confrontation
  760. CAT: Ugh, I hate it when this shit happens.
  761. CUC: ugh quick afl
  762. CUC: *afk
  763. CTG: what, forum game politics?
  764. CUC: gotta find somethin
  765. CAT: Nah, that's fine.
  766. CAU: my only gripe with doggy was that i wanted TAzz to have doggy casually interrupt the dop sometimes with his cleverbot-style gibberish.
  767. CAU: :V
  768. CUC: ok thing found
  769. CTG: ok
  770. CAT: When somebody creates a problem this large that we have to create a separate memo to hide ourselves as we prepare to confront them.
  771. CAC: The plot twist is that Tazz did this so he could enjoy the ensuing confrontation
  772. CTG: so when do we do it.
  773. CTT: Whoa
  774. CTG: mind blown
  775. CTG: ah
  776. CUC: whoa
  777. CUC: wow
  778. CAT: Mind: blown.
  779. CTG: what a twist
  780. CTT: TWIST
  781. CTG: okay seriously when do we make the PM.
  782. CUC: So, when DO we do it -- yeah
  783. CTT: Hmmmmmmmmm
  784. CAT: As soon as possible.
  785. CTT: Today? Tomorrow?
  786. CTG: start it now
  787. CAT: ^
  788. CTT: They both work for me/
  789. CTG: the sooner the better
  790. CUC: yeah, today.
  791. CTT: Who's starting and who's following up?
  792. CAT: The passion can flow into the conversation.
  793. CUC: The sooner the better.
  794. CUC: Hmm.
  795. CTG: you need to get this issue in front of tazz before he seriously confirms his decision
  796. CTG: give him time and he will not budge
  797. CTT: Should I do it, should Twin do it, or should the guy bringing the grievances do it?
  798. CAC: You don't want the passion to flow into the conversation?
  799. CTG: the guy bringing the grievances. I think that's only fair.
  800. CUC: Ok.
  801. CTG: just
  802. CUC: Piratepad for responses?
  803. CTG: try to sound calm I guess?
  804. CAC: You can't out argue Tazz.
  805. CTG: AC who are you talking to for that
  806. CTG: make one if you feel like we should
  807. CAT: Be calm, yeah.
  808. CTG: AC: ^
  809. CTG: oh
  810. CTT: Don't go ANGRYNESS
  811. CTG: yeah
  812. CTG: I did that with pionoo nce
  813. CTT: That's the best way to convince Tazz, if he needs convincing
  814. CUC: http://piratepad.net/tazzproblems
  815. CTG: ended up devolving into a bad time
  816. CTT: I remember that...
  817. CAC: Well, maybe you can, don't know you
  818. CTT: Yeah...
  819. CAC: I dont*
  820. CAT: These kinds of fuckers thrive on battles.
  821. CUC: ok, write and critique messages here
  822. CUC: twin, tt, and me
  823. CTG: why exactly can you not out argue tazz
  824. CTG: not because he's right
  825. CAC: 1.
  826. CAC: He's stubbon af
  827. CAC: 2.
  828. CAC: He loves arguments
  829. CAC: 3.
  830. CAT: ^
  831. CTG: but because he believes what he says with such conviction that you end up believing he's right>
  832. CAC: He ragequits
  833. CTG: when has he ever ragequit
  834. CTT: I feel like we're hitting him too hard here
  835. CAC: Not with DTG0 stuff
  836. CTT: But I can see it, I guess
  837. CAC: Like in...
  838. CAT: Better to overhit than underhit, though.
  839. CAC: Old IW arguments
  840. CAC: And such
  841. CTG: ah
  842. CTG: ah.
  843. CTG: TT you raise a good point
  844. CTT: OH
  845. CTT: I remember that!
  846. CTT: That was a long time ago!
  847. CTG: you have to run a fine line between raising good point and straight anger
  848. CGG: ?
  849. CTT: That's the best way to convince Tazz, if he needs convincing
  850. CTT: Is what I said
  851. CTG: yeah
  852. CTT: /afk one minute
  853. CAC: Here's a completely useless point
  854. CAC: This feels less intense than the first "rebellion"
  855. CAC: Maybe because I'm not in the game
  856. CTG: good
  857. CTG: don't want to be too intense I guess
  858. CAT: Yep, same sentiments.
  859. CTG: how do people still in the game feel
  860. CGG: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  861. CAC: But I mean, last time worked, didn't it?
  862. CTG: I think this is pretty intense and valid
  863. CAC: Might you be being too passive?
  864. CAT: That's rather hilarious, considering that MORE is at stake here.
  865. CAC: Ehhh
  866. CTG: again, if he refuses to budge, people just leave
  867. CAC: I'd say less is
  868. CTG: or is the point that we should be trying to prevent that scenario
  869. CAC: This time, your RP is at stake
  870. CAC: Last time, it was enjoyment of the game
  871. CAT: You underestimate how much more that means to people.
  872. CTG: for some people those are the same thing
  873. CGG: yeah
  874. CAC: Those may be the same thing
  875. CAT: Yeah.
  876. CAC: But not for everyone
  877. CAC: So
  878. CAC: Less
  879. CTG: the people involved here are heavily tied to their rps
  880. CAT: ^^
  881. CTT: /back
  882. CAT: So, more.
  883. CAC: I mean, it can only be even
  884. CTG: yeah
  885. CTG: when you look at it that way
  886. CAC: Enjoyment of the game is... everything
  887. CAC: Why the fuck would you play a game you don't like
  888. CTG: ^
  889. CAT: Because you feel like you have to?
  890. CTT: Maybe if it's some kind of skinner box
  891. CTG: talist
  892. CTG: ninjatwist
  893. CTT: And what CAT said
  894. CGG: to see the end
  895. CTG: me
  896. CAT: That's happened to quite few of us at several points.
  897. CGG: to get everythıng
  898. CTT: CAT's statement is closer to what may happens with DTG
  899. CAT: Me, as well.
  900. CTG: I made the game to end it.
  901. CTG: I made my story and I set out to achieve it.
  902. CAC: Talist? Ninjatwst?
  903. CTT: Well, CGG, that doesn't particularly apply to DTG, but yeah
  904. CAC: Why did you namedrop them
  905. CTG: ^
  906. CTG: they played a game they didn't like
  907. CTT: Twin, you sacrificed a lot for the game
  908. CAC: I mean, they didn't like it as much
  909. CTG: ninjatwist didn't dislike it, he just didn't care
  910. CTG: ye
  911. CTG: I did
  912. CAC: I doubt they got no enjoyment
  913. CTG: talist seemed to have no enjoyment at the end
  914. CTG: and even before that
  915. CTG: scratch's mansion, trial 3, trial 4, trial 7
  916. CAC: He enjoyed having an audience for his Wilson
  917. CTG: and that's it
  918. CTG: that's all he cared about
  919. CTG: isn't it?
  920. CAC: I mean, people play DTG for different reasons
  921. CAC: Who are you to say that's not good enough
  922. CAC: Well, I guess you're you so
  923. CAC: No one should say that
  924. CAT: Ultimately, my reasons don't even matter to me anymore.
  925. CTG: i remember how wilson kept berating the godmodder as a villain and a person
  926. CAT: As far as it goes to me, you are all the reason now.
  927. CTG: i have a question that might have been asked before
  928. CTT: DTG has evolved to more than, well, destroying a godmodder.
  929. CTG: do you all think that by the end of dtg2, the godmodder turned into an actual character with an arc?
  930. CAT: Pretty much, yes.
  931. CTT: In DTG1, he didn't get any lines until the very end
  932. CAT: The arc was ultimately summed up by the Red Dragon's final words, actually.
  933. CTG: yeah
  934. CTG: yep
  935. CTT: What were they again?
  936. CTG: I don't know how you feel about it TT, but I feel like the godmodder deserved to have at least SOME character behind him
  937. CAT: He became much more real to me than, say, Wilson.
  938. CTT: No, I agree with you!
  939. CTT: In DTG1, he ultimately revealed himself as a hypocrite and a poor loser
  940. CTG: okay cool
  941. CTT: But for DTG2, he needed more or it may have fallen flat
  942. CTT: "Mission Pack Sequel
  943. CTG: "YOU CLAIM TO HAVE MASTERED RAGE, BUT FALL VICTIM TO IT ALL TOO OFTEN. LEARN TO CONTROL YOURSELF. GO BACK TO YOUR ROOTS. DO NOT THINK AS BIG NEXT TIME, IF THERE EVEN IS ONE. DO WHAT YOU DO WHAT BEST. DO NOT BECOME SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE NOT." -The Red Dragon
  944. CAC: Hey could someone uninvite only the memo real quick, I need to join on mobile...
  945. CAC: Actually...
  946. Memo is no longer Invite-Only by CAC
  947. CTT: Oh no
  948. CTT: CLOSE IT UP AGAIN
  949. CTT: CLOSE
  950. CTT: IT
  951. Memo is now Invite-Only by CAT
  952. CTG: REEE
  953. CTT: UP
  954. CTG: THE FLOODGATES
  955. CTT: AGAIN
  956. CAC: I mean
  957. CTG: okay we're good
  958. CAU: REV UP THOSE FRIERS
  959. CAC: He still needs to know the name
  960. CTT: Phew
  961. CAT: The gates are sealed.
  962. CAT: Take no chances, AC.
  963. CAC ceased responding to memo.
  964. CAC ceased responding to memo.
  965. CTG: by the end of the game, the godmodder realized his mistakes
  966. CTG: and was ready to move on
  967. CUC: TT, you joining the piratepad?
  968. CTG: but he couldn't
  969. CTG: due to the mark
  970. CTT: Can you link me to it again?
  971. CTG: he was forced to play one last game
  972. CTG: and it broke him
  973. CTG: he wasn't as untouchable as he thought he was
  974. CTG: TT: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/off-topic/forum-games/435676-destroy-the-godmodder-2-operator-finished?comment=25864
  975. CTG: not just in minecraft
  976. CTG: but on earth
  977. CTT: Thank you!
  978. CUC: http://piratepad.net/tazzproblems
  979. CUC: There's the link.
  980. CTG: also I foreshadowed godmodder soul and no one knew
  981. CTG: "AND MY MARK ON YOU WILL NEVER FADE. MAKING A DEAL WITH A DEVIL IS NOT SOMETHING TO TAKE LIGHTLY. IT CAN COST HEALTH, MIND, AND SOUL. OR PERHAPS, SOMETIMES EVEN GIVE SOUL. BUT A TWISTED MOCKERY, AND ONE SCULPTED BY ME. YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING. CREATION CAN BIRTH DESTRUCTION."
  982. CURRENT absoluteCoolness [CAC] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
  983. ?AC: ... Huh
  984. CAT: Oh, yeah.
  985. CTG: I foreshadowed it even further back, too
  986. CTG: hang on
  987. CAT: I think I might have initially interpreted that as a literal mark, as well?
  988. CAT: Who knows.
  989. CTT: Hmmm
  990. CTG: part of me and twin's goal for the endgame of dtg2 was to give richard a satisfying character
  991. CTG: "[HEROBRINE] IS MY SERVANT. HE EXISTED BEFORE EVEN YOU, AND WHEN HE DIED, I TOOK HIM AND MADE HIM MY OWN. A PORTION OF ME IS SEALED INSIDE OF HIM, HENCE HIS NAME. HE IS THE HERO OF BRINE."
  992. CTG: it makes me happy that we've succeeded
  993. CTG: "WHAT I DID TO HIM I WILL NOW DO TO YOU."
  994. CAT: Okay, where did we break off from the original topic.
  995. CTT: Uhhhh
  996. CTG: probably my fault
  997. CTT: It was some time back
  998. CTG: to be fair crystal is working on the piratepad
  999. CTT: And totally Split's fault
  1000. CTG: kek 
  1001. CTG: I mean yeah, crystal is working on the PM
  1002. CAT: It appears to be Split's fault, oui.
  1003. CTG: and I'm doing the echeladder
  1004. CGG: ı'm lookıng back
  1005. CGG: through
  1006. CGG: thıngs
  1007. CAT: Has everyone surpassed me yet, Twin?
  1008. CTG: nope
  1009. CTG: you're still the top
  1010. CTG: as it should be
  1011. CTT: Where am I on the echeladder?
  1012. CTG: ok
  1013. CTG: back to the main point
  1014. CTG: level 10
  1015. CAT: Probably shoudn't be, but whatever.
  1016. CTT: Yaay
  1017. CTG: or not because now echeladder time
  1018. CTG: close to level 11
  1019. CUC: Ok, my part of the PM seems to be done.
  1020. CUC: Thoughts?
  1021. CAT: Hmm. Do you THINK anyone might reach me by the end?
  1022. CTT: Hmmm
  1023. CTT: I can feel your emotion put into it
  1024. CTG: none of the newb players who joined for the boss rush will be included.
  1025. CTG: 'in the echeladder, that is.
  1026. CTG: MAYBE bomber?
  1027. CAU: i mean
  1028. CAT: Hmm, where are you at?
  1029. CAU: don't include me just because of where i am now :V
  1030. CAC: Do it
  1031. CTG: is emotion a bad thing TT?
  1032. CAC: Nepotism
  1033. CTT: No
  1034. CAT: Sometimes.
  1035. CTT: I'm just thinking
  1036. CTT: Maybe I should have talked to Tazz more often
  1037. CAC: Sometimes
  1038. CTG: yeah
  1039. CTT: Me and Twin talked allll the time when he was GM
  1040. CTT: Maybe I should have communicated more in private.
  1041. CAU: i have a theory that erelye actually went into hiding and left behind the scattered shards of a "map" of The Void
  1042. CAU: and now we have to find him 
  1043. CAT: Well, Twin is generally a more charismatic and amicable person.
  1044. CAT: Hah.
  1045. CTT: It was actually more like
  1046. CTT: He'd ask me for a bit of advice
  1047. CAU: totally not stolen from the new Star Wars or anything
  1048. CAT: CANON SEAL OF MAGEPROVAL.
  1049. CTT: And I'd end up typing millions of words
  1050. CAC: Twin, charismatic
  1051. CTT: Most of which didn't need to be said
  1052. CAC: 
  1053. CTT: But he appreciated it, I think
  1054. CTG: he did.
  1055. CTG: he definitely did.
  1056. CTT: Wait a minute
  1057. CAT: Bomber, if you find the map shards, I'll provide you with one last collab.
  1058. CTT: Something similar to this DID happen in DTG1!
  1059. CTG: really?
  1060. CTG: when?
  1061. CTT: The "administratormodder" arc!
  1062. CTT: Talist got mad because he thought his entity was dead
  1063. CTG: when you killed off all the entities?
  1064. CTG: oh YEAH
  1065. CAU: the chart is actually another one of Erelye's needlessly complex ARGs and, if we solve it he will come back to DTG to aid the rebels one last time 
  1066. CAT: Hah.
  1067. CAT: I'm not joking, though.
  1068. CAT: You find the map, I give you your fun.
  1069. CTG: wELP HERE WE GO
  1070. CTT: I always planned to give them back for the end, but I might not have communicated it as well as I should have
  1071. CTT: Okay
  1072. CTT: SEND IT OFF
  1073. CAT: In fact, if any of you find the map shards, you get the collab.
  1074. CAT: Let's just pretend you won't have to make them yourself for a sec.
  1075. CTG: TT: oh yeah, I did
  1076. CAU: I'm gonna hide in the Bunker Pocket Dimension™ until this blows over.
  1077. CAU: Also known as dinner 
  1078. CTG: yeah i still haven't done my homework
  1079. CTG: /afk for real
  1080. CAT: Anyhow, /AFK.
  1081. CTT: Have a nice dinner!
  1082. CTT: Have a nice homework!
  1083. CTT: Have a nice whatever you're doing!
  1084. CTG: we'll all regroup when the pad is done
  1085. CUC: ok, back
  1086. CUC: yeha
  1087. CTG: thanks tt
  1088. CUC: homework time
  1089. CTT: I need to add my piece
  1090. CUC: yeah, add it
  1091. CTG: not sure if twin is done but you can start
  1092. CUC: ping me when it's done
  1093. CAC: >only person able to multitask
  1094. CUC: I gotta do math
  1095. CUC: yeah twin are you done with your bit?
  1096. CTT: Great, I'm ramblinh
  1097. CTT: I'm not sure what to say
  1098. CAC: Paste what you have here
  1099. CTG: hmm...
  1100. CUC: http://piratepad.net/tazzproblems
  1101. CUC: look there
  1102. CAC: Can't
  1103. CTG: rant finished
  1104. CTG: > rant
  1105. CUC: nice
  1106. CTG: oh boy
  1107. CTT: Still working on mine here
  1108. CUC: ok, let's read each other's things and critique
  1109. CUC: don't want to come off as too abrasive
  1110. CTG: hm
  1111. CTG: I think it's alright
  1112. CTG: whose
  1113. CUC: yours looks good too twin
  1114. CTG: crystal's
  1115. CTG: thanks
  1116. CTG: ok
  1117. CTG: Essentially, nothing new happens in paradox space.
  1118. CTG: You just need to notice the parallels.
  1119. CTG: So I did.
  1120. CTG: -_-
  1121. CTG: kek
  1122. CAC: ?
  1123. CUC: hah
  1124. CUC: doc scratch references
  1125. CTT: Okay, all done, but I'm open to changes
  1126. CUC: I'm adding a thing about soulkilling
  1127. CTT: NO
  1128. CTT: TT DOES NOT STAND FOR THAT
  1129. CGG: kek
  1130. CAC ceased responding to memo.
  1131. CAT: /UNAFK. Alright. Officially speaking, the first person to create the eight VOID MAP SHARDS, and follow them to Kalare's location gets a look into AUTHORIAL PARADISE DIMENSION, and the Veticon Horbynyx, or something. Second person gets the full schematics for the Hazel Wand.
  1132. CTG: FSEFTR IS NOW LEVEL 13
  1133. CTG: # MakeDTGGreatAgain
  1134. CGG: nıce
  1135. CTG: holy shit
  1136. CAT: >:O
  1137. CTG: this is serious
  1138. CGG: so what, offıcıally hıgher level than tazz
  1139. CGG: or
  1140. CAT: What level am I, again?
  1141. CGG: also 13
  1142. CTG: 13
  1143. CAT: Alright.
  1144. CTT: I thought better. I took it out.
  1145. CGG: the current fhree l13s
  1146. CAT: If he surpasses me, I'm taking a knife to his head.
  1147. CGG: are me
  1148. CUC: Ok, added a bit about the whole souldeath means actual death thing.
  1149. CGG: you
  1150. CGG: and fsef
  1151. CTT: Fixed grammar
  1152. CUC: Added a lil' reference to something, Twin./
  1153. CUC: You may recognize it.
  1154. CTG: I did.
  1155. CTT: Is my little blue paragraph okay?
  1156. CTG: Clever.
  1157. CTG: TT: yep!
  1158. CTT: Does it meet your standards?
  1159. CTG: I think we're good
  1160. CUC: Ok, just gotta make sure of one thing
  1161. CUC: sec
  1162. CUC: gotta make sure that wording is right.
  1163. CTG: so are we shoving this into tazz's face today?
  1164. CTG: better sooner rather than later.
  1165. CTG: ok
  1166. CUC: Yes.
  1167. CUC: Today.
  1168. CTG: my body is ready
  1169. CUC: Just not... quite... yet.
  1170. CTG: 3.5 HOURS UNTIL THE RAPTURE.
  1171. CTT: Uh
  1172. CTG: twin, the rapture was the davepeta/arquius bro hug bunp
  1173. CTG: no it wasn't??
  1174. CTG: yes it was
  1175. CTG: where was that ever said
  1176. CTG: TT: the end of homestuck
  1177. CTG: hussie said that the entire comic led up to that moment
  1178. CTT: Ahhh
  1179. CTT: I forgot!
  1180. CTT: 4/13!
  1181. CTT: I'll wake up to it in the morning, oh man.
  1182. CTG: yeah
  1183. CTG: it's releasing at midnight
  1184. CTG: it's coming out at midnight tonight
  1185. CTG: i'm staying up to see it because i'm an idiot
  1186. CTG: DARWIN AWARD: ACHIEVED
  1187. CTG: KILL SELF WITH GRENADE
  1188. CTG: I DID IT ACCIDENTALLY
  1189. CAT: Hah, I don't give enough of a shit anymore.
  1190. CUC: Ok.
  1191. CTG: AT: you should, EOA6 was fucking amazing
  1192. CUC: Fixed.
  1193. CUC: There/
  1194. CAT: I'll see it around 4:13 PM anyway.
  1195. CTG: should we remove colors?
  1196. CTT: When is the PM
  1197. CUC: Now, are we all ready to drop the bomb right on Tazz?
  1198. CTT: OFFICIALLY
  1199. CTT: sent
  1200. CTT: Ah
  1201. CAT: Drop it.
  1202. CTT: Yes, I'm ready
  1203. CUC: Because I'm making the PM now.
  1204. CTG: HERE WE GO
  1205. CTT: Don't title it
  1206. CTT: Tazz Problems
  1207. CTT: Say something like, "Important Concern"
  1208. CUC: What should I title it, really.
  1209. CUC: Hmm.
  1210. CAT: Nah, "Concern of Mild Import."
  1211. CTT: OUR Concern of Mild Important
  1212. CUC: I'll just say.
  1213. CUC: Concerns.
  1214. CAT: Sounds good to me.
  1215. CTT: Okay, simple. I like it.
  1216. CGG: told ıre abt thıng
  1217. CUC: Ok, everyone.
  1218. CUC: Ready to send.
  1219. Memo is no longer Invite-Only by CGG
  1220. CUC: You all ready?
  1221. CTT: GO!
  1222. CAT: Best of luck to you loveable clods.
  1223. CUC: First Twin posts his, then TT posts his.
  1224. CTG: get ready to get die
  1225. CUC: There.
  1226. CUC: GO.
  1227. CUC: Twin first, then TT.
  1228. CUC: Repeat, Twin first.
  1229. CUC: TG.
  1230. CTT: GOOOO!
  1231. CTG: OH
  1232. CAU: I'm back.
  1233. CAT: Welcome, sir.
  1234. CAT: To the chaos.
  1235. CTG: he's playing nuclear throne
  1236. CAU: Clod, too, has become part of my vocabulary.
  1237. CTG: the fucking gall
  1238. CTT: The PM is going up TG! Let's get with it!
  1239. CTG: THERE
  1240. CAT: Clod is a wonderful word, is it not?
  1241. CUC: TWIN TWIN TWIN
  1242. CUC: ok
  1243. CTG: did it
  1244. CUC: good
  1245. CTT: Oop! My turn!
  1246. CUC: Now TT/
  1247. CAU: inb4 it is a high-tier gem insult
  1248. CGG: told ıre
  1249. CTG: why is ire doing something
  1250. CAT: Hah.
  1251. CGG: and ıre ıs talkıgn
  1252. CGG: bc I told hım kek
  1253. CAT: Equivalent of some sort of horrible slur.
  1254. CUC: what he say
  1255. CTT: Done!
  1256. CTG: bluh.
  1257. CTG: ire's adding his piece
  1258. CTG: do you think tazz wil respond today?
  1259. CAT: Mayhaps.
  1260. CAT made AC an OP.
  1261. CAT: Ignore the fact that mayhaps isn't a word.
  1262. CURRENT absoluteCoolness [CAC] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
  1263. CAC: Isn't it?
  1264. CTT: I have to take a shower. I will be back to see how things progress.
  1265. CAT: It should be, and therefore it is.
  1266. CTT: By for now!
  1267. CTT: /afk
  1268. CAT: Ooh, you know what would be better than the DTG void map quest thing? Memo Game: Aeon Void Sailor. Or some shit.
  1269. CUC: Ok.
  1270. CUC: And, for those of us in the Pact, we're agreed that if Tazz fails to recant, we grab a full charge of DT Extraction, hit a player, and GTFO as Asriel.
  1271. CUC: If we don't just leave outright.
  1272. CGG: well
  1273. CGG: assumıng chara doesn't murder
  1274. CTG: i think you all should leave outright
  1275. CGG: ampersand
  1276. CUC: true.
  1277. CAT: Can't you just use Kanera's soul, if needed?
  1278. CURRENT anotherCreeper [CAC] RIGHT NOW responded to memo.
  1279. CAC: hello.
  1280. CUC: I suppose..
  1281. CAT: Hello.
  1282. CUC: Hello, Ire.
  1283. CTG: don't blast the other players over this
  1284. CTG: yo ire
  1285. CUC: I'll grab you a full log quick.
  1286. CAC: Huh, I can't see who's in the memo.
  1287. Memo is now Invite-Only by CTG
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