<Kuba> Is the action "Object added to container" triggered if it has been moved there by another content rule?
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<MacYoda> .oO(try it out)
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<Kuba> oh, it does not :(
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<Kuba> I wanted to make something like that: action1 (move to /news) is triggered by "added to container" when object is news, action2 (enable auto-blogging) is triggered "by added to container". action1 is defined in / (and enabled in subfolders), where action2 is is defined in /news
 But apparently it doesn't work
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<Kuba> I think that "moving" isn't the same as adding
 Or I misunderstood chaining behaviour
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<Kuba> Correct me please if I'm wrong :>
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<LloydPearsonIV> This seeems like another job for...
<LloydPearsonIV> Plomino....
<LloydPearsonIV> j/k
 lol
<MacYoda> kuba: don#t listen to trolls, just try it out
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<Kuba> yeah, I checked it
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<Kuba> But I wanted to make sure by asking here
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<LloydPearsonIV> dont listen to the trolls, listen to the pricks instead
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<Kuba> Is Plomino something I should try out?
<MacYoda> no
 stay mainstream
<LloydPearsonIV> Kuba:  Plomino is a great tool & it eliminates the need for many add-ons
<Kuba> hmm, MacYoda vs LloydPearsonIV
<LloydPearsonIV> but i am not sure it will do what you want atleast the way you are trying to do it
 unless you wanted to accomplish the same task with a different approach
<Kuba> Currently I'm using only collective.blogging
<MacYoda> you don#t need Plomino for blogging
<LloydPearsonIV> Well there is definitely a way you can crate a blogging app, but its alll about whats best for you
<MacYoda> what you want is working with content-rules
<Kuba> haha
<LloydPearsonIV> dont worry about mainstream, worry about what you are trying to accomplish with the site
<kojiro> hmm
<Kuba> You look like two worst enemies guys
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<Kuba> :P
<LloydPearsonIV> we just have 2 different perspectives
 u figure out what works best for you
 macyoda is not worthy enough to be cosidered an enemy
 considered***
<kojiro> I'm just going to address this with facts: Some add-ons are amazing and super helpful; however, I have been bit, hard, by having to deal with conflicts and uninstall bugs in multiple add-ons
<MacYoda> only idiots consider MacYoda as an enemy :)
<MacYoda> only fools listen to plomino fools
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<kojiro> MacYoda: taking a hard line today?
<MacYoda> Tea time :)
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<LloydPearsonIV> kojiro:  thats why i prefer to just use plomino. its only one add-on that can accomplish many things
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<kojiro> That's great! I'm glad you're happy.
<LloydPearsonIV> its not for everybody, but i am not against suggesting that they give it a chance
<kojiro> LloydPearsonIV: no, you certainly aren't :)
<MacYoda> add-ons that will break your neck with the next migration
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<MacYoda> :->
<Kuba> haha
 Now I know whom to trust!
 ;)
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<Lloyd> You can ban nicknames, you can ban ips, but you cant ban me. you are wasting your time
<aclark> Lloyd: We can and we will if you keep it up ;-)
 Lloyd: This channel is for Plone related questions
 Lloyd: Please respect the rules
<csenger> Kuba: Plomino is well maintained for a long time. It's there to click together applications. It was inspired by Lotus Notes afaicr. It's a bit like PloneFormGen combined with excel like tables. Look at plomino.net if your interrested and talk to them if you think it may fix your needs. But it's a hammer, and most requirement are not a nail (at least for most people)
<Lloyd> keep up what? expressing a different opinion?
 i
 i am talking about plone
 just not the way you are
 what rule am i breaking???
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<Kuba> csenger: Thank you, I'll check it
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<Kuba> btw, are there any featured products?
<aclark> Lloyd: You are being disrespectful to the channel members, for one
<Lloyd> Kuba: dont be afraid to check out many options. its all about what works best for you
<Rotonen> i thought flame wars like this were a thing of the 90's
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<Lloyd> aclark:  not nearly as much as they are to me...in that case
<zedr> Rotonen: of the 00's actually
<MatthewWilkes> Does everyone REALLY need to be told not to feed trolls? Lloyd likes Plomino - so what? Don't take it personally.
<Guest22131> anyone using ATSchemaeditor on Plone 4??????
<Lloyd> i can only return the amount of respect given
<Rotonen> zedr: well, that was a golden age of mailing list idiotism, yes, but for irc confrontations the 90's were the golden age as far as i've seen
<Lloyd> MatthewWilkes:  thats my thoughts
<zedr> Rotonen: true
 Rotonen: I still have my irc sword and cape from that age
<aclark> Lloyd: You have to earn respect. It's nothing personal. Just play by the rules and everybody happy :-)
<Lloyd> aclark: so do you, its a two way street, not a one way
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<aclark> Lloyd: Dude. This is an IRC channel with rules. There are operators and there are participants. You are one of the participants. Please respect the operators and rules of the channel.
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<Lloyd> i am equal opportunity. I return what is given according to how they trat me, not chatroom status
 treat***
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<aclark> Lloyd: You can go outside and do that in the real world, this is IRC :-)
<MatthewWilkes> Ok, seriously, everyone take a deep breath and drop this. Everyone gets frustrated with Andreas every now and again, this is getting more disruptive than the original comment.
<aclark> MatthewWilkes: Where you here yesterday?
<Lloyd> aclark: I am my own person
 un irc or not
 MatthewWilkes:  yesterday the same thign happened
<zedr> aclark: what's this 'real world' you're talking about?
<Lloyd> anytime you disagree with the crowd, they want to call you a troll, whther you are actually being disrespectful or not
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<Lloyd> i guess i should just kiss up to them
 zedr:  everyone's perception of the "real world" is different. I cant telll him that his is wrong
<MatthewWilkes> I don't care, Lloyd, please try and be the bigger man when you feel disrespected, rather that starting an argument in public.  AFAICT this has all blown up over nothing today.
 I don't know what happened yesterday, but people seem to be a bit frayed and are reacting too much.  On both sides.
 Lets get back on topic
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<Lloyd> MatthewWilkes: I understand. I just dont like ti when people go on power trips
 i'm here for plone, not them
<MatthewWilkes> Lloyd: And people don't like it when they feel people are belittling their friends and colleagues
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<zedr> well, power trips here on #plone are pretty tame, compared to the ones I often assist to in #python or ##c :)
<Lloyd> MatthewWilkes: well it seems that people are taking offense to things that are not meant to be offensive. And if i am being belittled, do i not have the same right as they do? are they kings & i a lowly peasant?
 zedr: I wouldn't doubt it
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<MatthewWilkes> Lloyd: As I say, let's drop it.  This conversation certainly is being disruptive and it has to end, now.
<Lloyd> MatthewWilkes:  no, problem...thanks for being levelheaded