Risen Idea

weed (4:44:12 PM): Tbh idek why packs have limits to ensure you're "loyal" (its as if they're playing it off as a fuckin cult or smth tbh)
weed (4:44:22 PM): but whatever makes them happy i guess
madesi (4:44:44 PM): It's to keep activity.
madesi (4:44:52 PM): I want my site to be where you don't feel obligated to stay.
madesi (4:44:54 PM): but want to.
weed (4:45:13 PM): YES
weed (4:45:21 PM): like idc how many rps you're in
madesi (4:45:21 PM): I want something exclusive.
weed (4:45:24 PM): you can be in fuckin 20
madesi (4:45:26 PM): So people are like
madesi (4:45:27 PM): wow
weed (4:45:29 PM): but as long as you're active, i'm cool
madesi (4:45:31 PM): i love risen !
weed (4:45:33 PM): ^
madesi (4:45:34 PM): i love rping there !
weed (4:45:36 PM): ^^
weed (4:45:36 PM): YES
madesi (4:45:38 PM): which is why i want
weed (4:45:38 PM): DOUBLE YES
madesi (4:45:42 PM): something new like
madesi (4:45:46 PM): plot rotation
madesi (4:45:48 PM): that works
weed (4:45:51 PM): yes
weed (4:46:00 PM): like we could start with the overall stuff which is the continental drift thing
weed (4:46:03 PM): and then just work from there
madesi (4:46:05 PM): yeah
madesi (4:46:06 PM): exactly
weed (4:46:09 PM): develop our pack, our culture
madesi (4:46:09 PM): but making people work for stuff
weed (4:46:29 PM): because I hate it when a site focuses on one overall plot
weed (4:46:31 PM): it gets.. boring
weed (4:46:38 PM): its the same shit, different day
madesi (4:46:48 PM): yeah literally
madesi (4:46:49 PM): adrift was
madesi (4:46:51 PM): boring tbh
weed (4:46:53 PM): thats why i like the scouting idea
madesi (4:46:58 PM): tbh
madesi (4:47:01 PM): with continental drift
weed (4:47:01 PM): like, its just a little mini game that gets people rpg
madesi (4:47:04 PM): and having it all together
weed (4:47:05 PM): they go out and explore and find new shit
madesi (4:47:08 PM): means that scouting is easier
weed (4:47:09 PM): YES
madesi (4:47:09 PM): bc its
madesi (4:47:11 PM): literally new land
weed (4:47:13 PM): it is
madesi (4:47:15 PM): like
madesi (4:47:19 PM): but just make the world map a bit smaller
madesi (4:47:22 PM): so its more accessible
weed (4:47:41 PM): yes
madesi (4:47:47 PM): but it just adds fucking diversity.
weed (4:47:52 PM): and with li
weed (4:47:54 PM): like
weed (4:48:00 PM): all these different wolves from different regions
madesi (4:48:09 PM): it means you can have fucking
weed (4:48:15 PM): there's gonna be a bunch of clashing cause everybody does things differently
madesi (4:48:18 PM): rare eye colours if you fucking want
weed (4:48:18 PM): and also the wolves look different
madesi (4:48:21 PM): yeah cultural differences
madesi (4:48:28 PM): different beliefs of how shit can be run
weed (4:48:54 PM): Luxure is basically the empitome of what an Aquarius should be
weed (4:49:01 PM): ...so technically me
madesi (4:49:04 PM): plus i mean you can mix up the fact that humans could still be around but are on settlements and out of cities
madesi (4:49:05 PM): ..
weed (4:49:11 PM): wow I've never really made a character based off of me since 6th grade
weed (4:49:12 PM): dead ass
madesi (4:49:16 PM): yike dude
weed (4:49:17 PM): back when I ran Ruins of Ituha
weed (4:49:19 PM): this is exciting
weed (4:49:20 PM): LOL
madesi (4:49:22 PM): LMFAO
madesi (4:49:23 PM): good
madesi (4:49:28 PM): adeo was the
madesi (4:49:30 PM): closest thing i had
madesi (4:49:31 PM): to like
madesi (4:49:34 PM): the embodiment of me.
weed (4:49:50 PM): but like, Luxure loves adventures, she's a 'free spirit', and she believes in change as long as its for the better
weed (4:50:06 PM): she likes to settle disagreements through discussions instead of straight up violence
weed (4:50:23 PM): which, i think we need more characters like that, cuz nowadays everybody wants to be the biggest, baddest wolf there ever was.
madesi (4:50:28 PM): exactly
madesi (4:50:30 PM): i dont wanna be that
weed (4:50:32 PM): we need to have a diversity in characters
madesi (4:50:42 PM): i wanna be like the strong and reasonable type but i want a fucking fiery side that comes out first
madesi (4:50:42 PM): ..
madesi (4:50:46 PM): bc that is me.
madesi (4:50:50 PM): i shoot out
madesi (4:50:52 PM): then i hold back
weed (4:50:55 PM): like its fine if someone wants to be cold and distant, i just dont want there to be a repitition
madesi (4:50:57 PM): and then i talk it out
madesi (4:51:04 PM): maybe throw up like
madesi (4:51:09 PM): remember how in what was it
madesi (4:51:11 PM): devils domain?
madesi (4:51:13 PM): they had that whole page
madesi (4:51:15 PM): and it was like
weed (4:51:17 PM): and its totally fine if someone wants a straight out EVIL wolf, but lets be honest, that wolf isnt going to last long.
madesi (4:51:18 PM): you can only pick one of the traits
madesi (4:51:22 PM): and it was like a series
weed (4:51:35 PM): h
weed (4:51:36 PM): hmm*
weed (4:51:42 PM): so like, we could have starter personalities?
madesi (4:52:05 PM): i mean that limits people
madesi (4:52:09 PM): if its mandatory
weed (4:52:16 PM): I don't want it to exactly be mandatory
weed (4:52:33 PM): I want people to be able to delve into their character and get a feel for them
weed (4:52:52 PM): I feel like people just, don't really care about their characters anymore. They don't put that much thought or time into it
weed (4:53:14 PM): They just want their character to be a stereotype, which is sad.
madesi (4:53:17 PM): yeah exactly
madesi (4:53:22 PM): maybe have them choose a standing point
madesi (4:53:27 PM): so they either want to be a lone wolf
madesi (4:53:38 PM): or they want to be like
madesi (4:53:48 PM): chaotic evil or smth
madesi (4:53:53 PM): but the thing is
weed (4:54:00 PM): Maybe we should throw up a page that's kind of like DD's, but we make it our own. Kind of like the starter personality. We ask them to choose one, and then build from it. That doesn't have to be their personality from the get-go, but it can be like, their foundation.
weed (4:54:09 PM): Yeah I agree
madesi (4:54:18 PM): yeah no i think so
weed (4:54:54 PM): no to my idea or
madesi (4:54:57 PM): have them choose how they want to be, so a lone wolf, evil, peacemaker or neutral and then have personalities based off of that. a lone wolf can have a series of different personalities but there could be a quirk in each
weed (4:54:59 PM): we have like 3 different convos going on at once
weed (4:54:59 PM): LMAO
madesi (4:55:00 PM): i ean yes
madesi (4:55:00 PM): ..
madesi (4:55:01 PM): LMFAO
madesi (4:55:19 PM): have a chaotic character but have a quirk so its the polar opposite
madesi (4:55:25 PM): there's a good trait in there somewhere.
weed (4:55:29 PM): we should have 'evil' closed at first
madesi (4:55:29 PM): but they have to adapt to that.
weed (4:55:31 PM): because if we have it open
madesi (4:55:33 PM): yeah i agree.
weed (4:55:34 PM): everybody is gonna rush towards it.
madesi (4:55:35 PM): everybody will do it.
weed (4:55:56 PM): and tbh, in the beginning everybody will be a lone wolf.
madesi (4:56:19 PM): should we do it because it's so open worldy tho so people can make their own lil tribes or smth in different continents but overall there's world leaders
madesi (4:56:27 PM): bc that is either
madesi (4:56:31 PM): really clever or
weed (4:56:31 PM): there is no set pack yet because everybody is still jazzed about pieces of land literally moving and clashing together
madesi (4:56:31 PM): super
madesi (4:56:33 PM): super
madesi (4:56:34 PM): hard
weed (4:56:39 PM): I feel like that'd be super hard
madesi (4:56:44 PM): me too
madesi (4:56:44 PM): .
madesi (4:56:50 PM): it only works with human rps
weed (4:56:54 PM): we can do different factions? It's sort of like the tribes, but it's easier
madesi (4:56:54 PM): and two sides at that
madesi (4:56:59 PM): factions works
weed (4:57:10 PM): like a faction is in charge of this land, another faction in charge of this other set of land, etc.
madesi (4:57:15 PM): factions have different areas of land
madesi (4:57:17 PM): yeah
madesi (4:57:17 PM): ..
madesi (4:57:25 PM): so the map will be like coordinated to that
weed (4:57:25 PM): and we have like, two to four faction leaders, two main ones and two sub ones
madesi (4:57:36 PM): yeah
madesi (4:57:39 PM): we need a no mans land somewhere
weed (4:57:58 PM): and then in the middle of the map we could have the main camp, aka where the biggest part of the pack would live
madesi (4:58:06 PM): yesss
madesi (4:58:14 PM): im laughing lets just use skyrims map
weed (4:58:17 PM): and that would be the main home for the superiors and such
madesi (4:58:20 PM): rename solitude to like america
madesi (4:58:21 PM): LMFAO
weed (4:58:23 PM): OH MY GOD LMAO
madesi (4:58:45 PM): BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN ABOUT SKYRIM LIKE YOU'RE IN GRASSLANDS NEXT MINE OH NO ITS ICELAND
madesi (4:58:46 PM): AND FUCK ITS COLD
madesi (4:59:06 PM): i mean we have to have some parts of the map bein fuckin inhabitable
madesi (4:59:23 PM): like a desert isnt going to be habitable for a wolf
weed (4:59:29 PM): but like, the alphas would take lets say the deltas (just using a filler rn, idk if we're gonna have deltas), and the betas and gammas stay behind to look after things, and then it flip flops and then the betas and gammas go and such
weed (4:59:30 PM): YES
madesi (4:59:38 PM): or it could be and they have fuckin huge tolerance to heat but i find that unlikely
madesi (4:59:47 PM): yes
madesi (4:59:52 PM): rotation of superiors n shit
weed (4:59:52 PM): Like it could be inhabitable, but they could go there to scavenge and shit
madesi (5:00:00 PM): certain areas have certain prey
weed (5:00:02 PM): just can't stay there for long or else they'd die
madesi (5:00:03 PM): but it has certain difficulty
weed (5:00:06 PM): YES
weed (5:00:14 PM): tegan we are so fucking smart.
madesi (5:00:15 PM): so difficulty levels in places of the map
madesi (5:00:16 PM): i know
madesi (5:00:16 PM): LOL
madesi (5:00:19 PM): THIS IS INCREDIBLE ACTUALLY
weed (5:00:23 PM): THIS IS??
madesi (5:00:24 PM): BC THIS IS NEW
weed (5:00:31 PM): its gonna require a bunch of writing but im up for it
madesi (5:00:32 PM): LIKE I AINT SEEN SHIT AS SMART AS THIS
madesi (5:00:39 PM): yeah its gonna take a shit load of planning
weed (5:00:47 PM): Let's not go TO EXTREME with layouts though, or else it'll be hard to incorporate the info into the layout
weed (5:00:50 PM): too*
madesi (5:00:52 PM): yeah exactly
weed (5:00:58 PM): but we still need to make it appealing
weed (5:01:31 PM): but yeah we could incorporate the prey and stuff into something called "quests"
madesi (5:01:31 PM): we'll figure something
madesi (5:01:46 PM): yeah probably a good idea
weed (5:01:49 PM): like we could have this overall quest for a group of wolves to go on and they could do a rp session, but we have side-quests involved as well
weed (5:02:01 PM): and a side-quest could be like hunting or scavenging and finding cool stuff
madesi (5:02:21 PM): would it be an idea for wolves that travel to lets say the desert or the tundra to gain slight tolerance as an ability to their character if they've been there over a certain amount of times
madesi (5:02:30 PM): like the first time you go you're hindered
madesi (5:02:34 PM): bc of the harsh condition
madesi (5:02:39 PM): but you gain moderate tolerance
weed (5:02:43 PM): but the overall quest could be like, let's say you have to clear out this huge den that the pack could use for shelter during storms or to keep their young, mothers and elderly safe
weed (5:02:49 PM): but there's some sort of beast that inhabits it
madesi (5:02:56 PM): yes
weed (5:02:57 PM): YESS
madesi (5:02:59 PM): fuck lets make a hybrid bear or smth
madesi (5:03:00 PM): LMFAO
weed (5:03:01 PM): I like the tolerance idea
weed (5:03:03 PM): FUCK YES LMAO
madesi (5:03:09 PM): something that requires strategy
madesi (5:03:12 PM): animals that require
madesi (5:03:14 PM): particular takedowns
madesi (5:03:23 PM): so you know in speed rp they have moves on animals and how many breaks n shit
madesi (5:03:28 PM): have the normal prey then the
madesi (5:03:30 PM): mutated prey
madesi (5:03:34 PM): and the mutated/hybrids
weed (5:03:35 PM): there's gonna be some pretty strong ass predators, because every time Earth goes through some sort of period where the plates are shifting around and it reforms the land, species are going to evolv
madesi (5:03:37 PM): or evolved shit
weed (5:03:38 PM): evolve*
weed (5:03:41 PM): YES
madesi (5:03:44 PM): require certain hits
madesi (5:03:52 PM): yessss exactly
weed (5:04:02 PM): i love how we're on the same page LMAO
madesi (5:04:06 PM): LMFAO YEAH
madesi (5:04:28 PM): i mean we could also do it so humans are existing and at paritcular times, prey could be sparse in areas because of them hunting??
madesi (5:04:37 PM): bc with continental shift its also earthquakes and shit so
madesi (5:04:41 PM): most shit would be in ruins
madesi (5:04:43 PM): by the time it settles
madesi (5:04:56 PM): so there's danger zones bc of human interaction
weed (5:04:58 PM): so that probably means our wolves will evolve too, hence becoming tolerant to certain climates once you're there for a while
weed (5:05:00 PM): YES
weed (5:05:20 PM): but I think it should be where humans have de-evolved, because let's be honest, we're not gonna evolve further if this shit EVER happens.
weed (5:05:32 PM): So basically humans will have to revert back to like, cave-men times and tribes and shit.
madesi (5:05:36 PM): yeah
madesi (5:05:38 PM): so they have camps
madesi (5:05:46 PM): we can set up certain camps around the map like
weed (5:05:48 PM): So they aren't the strongest or most dangerous predator out there, but they can still fuck up a wolf
madesi (5:05:49 PM): big camps.
weed (5:05:54 PM): and they're stronger as a whole
weed (5:05:55 PM): YES
madesi (5:06:13 PM): particular quests may have humans there present but again we could have strategy on how to take them down
madesi (5:06:15 PM): so like
madesi (5:06:17 PM): it gives a threat level
weed (5:06:25 PM): I just don't want the humans to be the top of the food chain anymore, because that would cause them to be a main problem, and I don't want that cuz there's been so many wolf rpgs where its wolf vs human
weed (5:06:30 PM): YES
madesi (5:06:34 PM): and the threat level could be like a 2 because it's a teenage human but may be a 4 if it's like 5 humans
madesi (5:06:39 PM): on a scale of 1-5
madesi (5:06:49 PM): no i know me neither and having humans as top is generic
weed (5:07:11 PM): the food chain is going to be changing constantly, anyways
weed (5:07:30 PM): like we could be at top at one point in time, but then something happens and we get knocked down a few levels
madesi (5:07:46 PM): i mean
madesi (5:07:49 PM): freak weather events
weed (5:07:52 PM): yep
weed (5:08:03 PM): and also prey and predators both get smarter over time
weed (5:08:20 PM): they figure out a certain being's hunting techniques and such, and they work their way around it
weed (5:08:28 PM): so it becomes more difficult and we have to change things up
madesi (5:08:29 PM): yeah so strategy changes
weed (5:08:32 PM): so we're not doing the same thing over and over
madesi (5:09:52 PM): i think this is fair
madesi (5:09:55 PM): its rotational so it isn't boring