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  1. [10:45:21 PM] InhWindfist: well...some drama happened with project freedom.
  2. [10:45:30 PM] Pokefan Gaming: I heard.
  3. [10:45:36 PM] Pokefan Gaming: .Luke left, no?
  4. [10:45:41 PM] InhWindfist: not that
  5. [10:45:44 PM] Kimgie: Yeah, you were a horrible boss.
  6. [10:45:51 PM] InhWindfist: shut up kimgie
  7. [10:45:58 PM] Kimgie: Why else would you leave?
  8. [10:46:29 PM] InhWindfist: because im a retard.
  9. [10:46:31 PM] Kimgie: If anything, my job's been better now that you're gone.
  10. [10:46:36 PM] InhWindfist: yours
  11. [10:46:41 PM] InhWindfist: but what about the fangame
  12. [10:46:53 PM] Kimgie: Actually doing well.
  13. [10:47:01 PM] Pokefan Gaming: Huh.
  14. [10:47:05 PM] InhWindfist: any progress since i left?
  15. [10:47:10 PM] Kimgie: Because everyone's working on it.
  16. [10:47:15 PM] Kimgie: Yep.'
  17. [10:47:23 PM] InhWindfist: show me a song, or a picture, or a build
  18. [10:47:28 PM] Pokefan Gaming: Well, how does it look? Any footage?
  19. [10:47:42 PM] InhWindfist: proof mr Kimgie-Knows-All
  20. [10:48:01 PM] Kimgie: Actually, yeah, I'll go get it.
  21. [10:48:42 PM] Kimgie: [7:26:15 PM] Bingo The Multiva: will warn you guys though that I might push to make it a short game
  22. [7:26:24 PM] Bingo The Multiva: like, 4 or 5 bosses short
  23. [7:26:34 PM] Bingo The Multiva: excluding the intro boss
  24. [7:28:18 PM] Ashema Bahumat: I don't even know what constitutes a Metroidvania
  25. [7:29:39 PM] Ashema Bahumat: but if we change the basic gameplay mechanics from what we already have, we may as well start making an indie game
  26. [7:29:53 PM] Bingo The Multiva: we can still stick to FP's gameplay style
  27. [7:30:08 PM] Bingo The Multiva: suggesting going for that kind of structure
  28. [10:48:54 PM] Kimgie: That enough proof we're developing?
  29. [10:49:04 PM] InhWindfist: words is not proof
  30. [10:49:14 PM] InhWindfist: a living breathing build is
  31. [10:49:15 PM] Kimgie: It's a conversation.
  32. [10:49:17 PM] InhWindfist: concept art is
  33. [10:49:24 PM] Kimgie: Inh.
  34. [10:49:32 PM] InhWindfist: soundtrack is
  35. [10:49:46 PM] Kimgie: Then you have no idea how to be a dev.
  36. [10:50:00 PM] Kimgie: I'm not having this conversation.
  37. [10:50:04 PM] InhWindfist: conversations will get nowhere if you don't have proof
  38. [10:50:12 PM] Kimgie: ...
  39. [10:50:19 PM] Kimgie: Inh, I'm done talking with you.
  40. [10:50:21 PM] InhWindfist: that you got some work done
  41. [10:50:35 PM] Kimgie: You can't tell me to give you proof.
  42. [10:50:44 PM] Kimgie: You are not my boss anymore.
  43. [10:50:52 PM] Kimgie: I listen to a leader.
  44. [10:51:21 PM] Kimgie: Leadership is a quality you lack.
  45. [10:51:43 PM] InhWindfist: "Im going to follow my heart" if that is your leader then everything you touch explodes
  46. [10:52:54 PM] Kimgie: Inh, development's been better.
  47. [10:53:04 PM] Kimgie: You are not a leader, you are a boss.
  48. [10:53:07 PM] InhWindfist: blah blah blah im Adolf Hitler.
  49. [10:53:19 PM] Kimgie: Of game devs, yeah, pretty much.
  50. [10:53:45 PM] InhWindfist: Thanks for the words.
  51. [10:54:07 PM] InhWindfist: call me phoenix Wind
  52. [10:54:24 PM] Kimgie: Phoenix Wind: Ass Developer?
  53. [10:54:35 PM] InhWindfist: hah.
  54. [10:54:44 PM] InhWindfist: what a joke you are.
  55. [10:55:03 PM] Kimgie: I know you are a bit butthurt
  56. [10:55:14 PM] Kimgie: Can you afford ass cream where you live?
  57. [10:55:41 PM] InhWindfist: your music is worst than the one in the old Nokia 5500
  58. [10:56:12 PM | Edited 10:56:19 PM] Kimgie: Your English is worse than my Asian friend's English.
  59. [10:56:47 PM] InhWindfist: You can't even play beatmania well.
  60. [10:56:55 PM] InhWindfist: calling yourself a "fan"
  61. [10:57:00 PM] Kimgie: Because you haven't even seen gameplay.
  62. [10:57:05 PM] Kimgie: I never posted any.
  63. [10:57:09 PM] Kimgie: How would you know. XD
  64. [10:57:26 PM] InhWindfist: im just guessing as you haven't posted some proof
  65. [10:57:46 PM] Kimgie: You're right, I'll go get some proof.
  66. [10:57:48 PM] Pokefan Gaming: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/88/45/23/884523cecc0d28bb69ae04c8ff557764.gif
  67. [10:58:09 PM] Pokefan Gaming: Dang, how long has it been since I posted that gif?
  68. [10:58:18 PM] InhWindfist: Hurry up dude, im going to prepare my deck of insults
  69. [10:58:28 PM] InhWindfist: i got a entire pile for just you
  70. [10:58:35 PM] Kimgie: Can't find my phone
  71. [10:58:38 PM] Kimgie: Wait
  72. [10:58:40 PM] Pokefan Gaming: Like, has it been half a year since I posted that one MJ popcorn gif?
  73. [10:58:40 PM] Kimgie: I know
  74. [10:58:43 PM] InhWindfist: maybe you don't have a phone
  75. [10:58:45 PM] Kimgie: I sent it to Lem
  76. [10:59:05 PM] InhWindfist: proof or gtfo
  77. [10:59:06 PM] Kimgie: Considering where you live, you probably don't even have electricity.
  78. [10:59:19 PM] InhWindfist: Then how am i even typing this
  79. [10:59:28 PM] InhWindfist: you Xenophobic shite.
  80. [10:59:56 PM] InhWindfist: Kimgie is Worst than Donald Trump Confirmed
  81. [11:00:02 PM] Kimgie: Then how did I take this?
  82. [11:00:12 PM] Pokefan Gaming: Look, guys, please stop arguing.
  83. [11:00:14 PM] InhWindfist: Nice Cheats Dood
  84. [11:00:23 PM] Kimgie: Cheats. In an arcade game.
  85. [11:00:25 PM] Kimgie: XD
  86. [11:00:40 PM] Kimgie: DUDE, THIS MACHINE IS CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET.
  87. [11:00:49 PM] Kimgie: ALL MY DATA'S STORED THERE.
  88. [11:01:05 PM] Kimgie: You can't cheat in these types of music games.
  89. [11:01:06 PM] InhWindfist: cheats as in "Hey can you clear this for me"
  90. [11:01:15 PM] Kimgie: Nope.
  91. [11:01:18 PM] Kimgie: Ask any of my friends.
  92. [11:01:22 PM] Kimgie: Did it myself.
  93. [11:01:26 PM] InhWindfist: What friends though
  94. [11:01:34 PM] Kimgie: Go there every Saturday.
  95. [11:01:42 PM] InhWindfist: buy me a plane then
  96. [11:01:45 PM] Pokefan Gaming: Guys
  97. [11:01:48 PM] Pokefan Gaming: stahp
  98. [11:02:03 PM] InhWindfist: see the drama behind the scenes?
  99. [11:02:04 PM] Kimgie: I would, Poke, but Inh is getting desperate.
  100. [11:02:14 PM] InhWindfist: Kimgie is like cancer.
  101. [11:02:22 PM] InhWindfist: just more like ebola
  102. [11:02:36 PM] Kimgie: The dev team says otherwise.
  103. [11:02:43 PM] Kimgie: Now stop being salty.
  104. [11:02:48 PM] Kimgie: You left.
  105. [11:02:51 PM] Kimgie: That's that.
  106. [11:02:53 PM] InhWindfist: Shooow me proooof
  107. [11:03:09 PM] InhWindfist: something along the lines "We are better withouth Inh"
  108. [11:03:15 PM] Kimgie: [Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:54 PM] ♥💖 Luran Sugar Dragon 💖♥:
  109.  
  110. <<< Like, you're literally the only composer on the team, and one of the few members actually doing shit besides me, Yoshi, and Ashema. Even if your position could be replaced, human beings aren't so disposable, and it's repulsive to me that you were treated as such.
  111. [11:03:24 PM] Kimgie: So, yeah, felt like a little toddler was trying to scold me for putting his teddy bear where he couldn't reach it.
  112. [11:03:32 PM] Kimgie: He needs to learn to chill, and he probably will. I honestly can't deal with it in the meantime, though.
  113. [11:03:44 PM] InhWindfist: White Knight
  114. [11:03:49 PM] Kimgie: ?
  115. [11:03:51 PM] InhWindfist: 1 person ain't defending you
  116. [11:04:00 PM] InhWindfist: that is just your personal white knight
  117. [11:04:01 PM] Kimgie: OK, I'll go get Ash
  118. [11:04:12 PM] InhWindfist: Ash is neutral as fuck
  119. [11:04:20 PM] Kimgie: [5:41:22 PM] Kimgie: deep breath
  120. [5:41:29 PM] Kimgie: INH CONTRIBUTES NOTHING TO THIS GROUP
  121. [5:41:40 PM] Ashema Bahumat: yea
  122. [11:04:37 PM] Pokefan Gaming: [11:03 PM] InhWindfist:
  123.  
  124. <<< 1 person ain't defending you
  125. that is just your personal white knight1: The hell are you smoking?
  126. 2: Can I have some?
  127. [11:04:39 PM] Kimgie: Now he's gonna say it's faked
  128. [11:04:41 PM] InhWindfist: in that way can be edited
  129. [11:04:46 PM] Kimgie: Called it.
  130. [11:04:50 PM] Kimgie: I'll snapshot it.
  131. [11:05:12 PM] InhWindfist: show me like this
  132. [11:05:13 PM] InhWindfist: really?
  133. [11:05:18 PM | Edited 11:05:23 PM] Kimgie: See how fast it was?
  134. [11:05:29 PM] Kimgie: Wouldn't have time to edit it.
  135. [11:05:46 PM] InhWindfist: 2
  136. [11:05:59 PM] InhWindfist: now how many people we have...oh yeah 9
  137. [11:06:01 PM] InhWindfist: 2/9
  138. [11:06:14 PM] InhWindfist: get 2 more
  139. [11:06:59 PM] Pokefan Gaming: Dang. All the salt in the Dead Sea can't even compare with how you are right now,
  140. [11:07:45 PM] Pokefan Gaming: Seriously, just look at what you're saying, and tell me that how you're acting isn't childish in the slightest.
  141. [11:07:47 PM] Kimgie: ^
  142. [11:07:58 PM] Kimgie: I'd be happy to get 2 more.
  143. [11:08:10 PM] Kimgie: But I got work to attend to.
  144. [11:08:24 PM] Kimgie: Something you never did.
  145. [11:08:49 PM] InhWindfist: so you want me to kill myself?
  146. [11:08:59 PM] InhWindfist: you want to be responsible of a human death?
  147. [11:09:11 PM] InhWindfist: i know you won't care at all but dood, that is fucked up
  148. [11:09:20 PM] Kimgie: If you want to kill yourself, that's your choice.
  149. [11:09:27 PM] InhWindfist: more like yours.
  150.  
  151. ---The Next Day---
  152.  
  153. [1:56:37 AM] Josuke Higashikata: ...I got absolutely nothing important of input rather than saying, "Well this happened".
  154. [6:36:37 AM] TwistedHensley Second Account: Same
  155. [7:08:09 AM] InhWindfist: im just gonna do what any normal person would do and cancel the fangame, i just need to get some preparations before doing any official announcement
  156. [7:14:41 AM] InhWindfist: then avoid the freedom planet fanbase like the plague, its literally the sonic fanbase with another coat of paint.
  157. [7:15:30 AM] InhWindfist: and with the whole leaks of Freedom Planet 2, im just gonna go and give my last goodbye
  158. [7:24:19 AM] Josuke Higashikata: ... Well, your choice then. Those team would might become indie devs in some chance.
  159. [7:24:43 AM] Josuke Higashikata: It's sad to see this kind of scenario happening, really
  160. [7:24:58 AM] InhWindfist: you better thank kimgie.
  161. [7:25:17 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Really...?
  162. [7:25:39 AM] InhWindfist: stuff that happened in the private chat of the fangame
  163. [7:26:28 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Yeah, I read. I couldn't figure out any other way to post a reaction earlier.
  164. [7:27:13 AM] Josuke Higashikata: It made me happy hear Ashema's thoughts about almost anyone in here being indie game teams...And I do wish luck for them.
  165. [7:27:42 AM] InhWindfist: i think they can't
  166. [7:28:27 AM] InhWindfist: mostly because they think that no one in command is better than having someone in command.
  167. [7:28:49 AM] InhWindfist: Nothing can be done withouth a leader, and kimgie needs to learn that.
  168. [7:29:59 AM] Josuke Higashikata: I thought the team is deciding a leader on their own...Based on whoever they have. Being a leader may not be easy but leaders can encourage others to the right direction, not forcing them.
  169. [7:30:09 AM] InhWindfist: no..
  170. [7:30:22 AM] InhWindfist: they thought they could go withouth leader
  171. [7:32:05 AM] InhWindfist: and i did force kimgie, but it was because he wasn't doing anything. I told him to do a remix of the Freedom Planet theme and he said he can't then he requested me to get Midi's of the FP OST which i would need to ask woofle which has to ask strife.
  172. [7:32:23 AM] InhWindfist: but everyone was free to do as they please
  173. [7:34:41 AM | Edited 7:50:29 AM] Josuke Higashikata: I'm pretty sure leaders are open-minded to what others want to do and really would not suggest people all the time. Doesn't mean they shouldn't take care of anyone. I guess you couldn't take patience in asking Woofle somewhere?
  174. [7:35:16 AM] InhWindfist: i asked woofle, but she said she needed strife's permission
  175. [7:36:21 AM] InhWindfist: And contacting Strife is more harder than contacting aliens
  176. [7:36:33 AM] InhWindfist: I've tried.
  177. [7:37:48 AM] Josuke Higashikata: That's because Strife shuns the fanbase 80% of the time without taking the time to know further about who we are than we look on the surface. Surprisingly enough, I am still worried about him in the inside.
  178. [7:38:07 AM] Josuke Higashikata: I never thought of whose the leader of galaxy trail either.
  179. [7:38:54 AM] Josuke Higashikata: I know I may be a bit confused by this, but if a game company needs a leader, then what about Nintendo? Sonic Team? SEGA? Capcom? Did they need leaders?
  180. [7:39:18 AM] InhWindfist: yes, just better ones
  181. [7:39:38 AM] InhWindfist: (in the case of capcom and SEGA)
  182. [7:39:50 AM] InhWindfist: Nintendo is doing a-ok
  183. [7:40:12 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Like, producer being in charge of the director such as back in the time where Zelda 2 was in development?
  184. [7:40:51 AM] InhWindfist: what?
  185. [7:42:07 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Y'know, something like that. If you were to produce an idea and a game along with a team, and if you had a director, wouldn't you be in charge of the director?
  186. [7:43:35 AM] InhWindfist: yes, but at the same time he would be in charge of the rest of the team.
  187. [7:47:37 AM] Josuke Higashikata: ...Then I do not know who is to blame. Being leader is hard for most people, but to me, having to constantly watch for a every individual of the team at once while trying to nicely lead anyone is really a lot like hell to me. Maybe it's just my thoughts since I never tried it yet, but yeah.
  188. [7:48:18 AM] Josuke Higashikata: If they need a leader, then one day they'll realize it
  189. [7:49:55 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Why does Kimgie do need to make a soundtrack off of FP midi's by the way?
  190. [7:50:48 AM] InhWindfist: i wanted a few remixes of the FP ost
  191. [7:51:10 AM] InhWindfist: Example: Main Theme, Dragon Valley
  192. [7:52:45 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Well if there are circumstances that aren't letting it work in a way, try going for something else? You ARE the producer of the fan game, right?
  193. [7:53:26 AM] InhWindfist: yes, i would see original music until plom came to help
  194. [7:54:16 AM] InhWindfist: he was a life savior, mostly remplacing Kimgie in every single way, i just kept Kim because he was a nice guy.
  195. [7:55:21 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Can't the producer be able to do anything else also besides only leading the project?
  196. [7:55:27 AM] InhWindfist: then he suddenly acted so negative towards me, but that was me being bossy
  197. [7:55:51 AM] InhWindfist: i was trying to learn.
  198. [7:55:58 AM] InhWindfist: and see how i could help
  199. [7:56:10 AM] InhWindfist: i didn't tell anyone though
  200. [7:57:05 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Maybe if you had not left, you could've had your chance to make up for it
  201. [7:57:29 AM] InhWindfist: well, i have made a mistake
  202. [7:57:57 AM] InhWindfist: and now that i have what's left of control on the fangame
  203. [7:58:04 AM] InhWindfist: im just willing to give up
  204. [7:58:41 AM] Josuke Higashikata: You're looking for hope somewhere since you have that profile picture...I know you are. It's not inevitable leaders could even react like that sometimes since they have their own personal issues (Hence why I fear trying to lead anyone).
  205. [7:59:01 AM] Josuke Higashikata: There really is no one left to soothe the leader to get them back on their feet quickly
  206. [7:59:23 AM] InhWindfist: yeah.
  207. [8:00:20 AM] InhWindfist: look at it in this way. You have to do choices 24/7
  208. [8:00:43 AM] InhWindfist: they can get to good thing, or they can get to apocalipticly bad stuff
  209. [8:01:52 AM] Josuke Higashikata: If I were in your shoes, I'd be pretty much too scared of sharing anymore of my feelings with anyone whether to vent or not... Only because I am scared of making the wrong move
  210. [8:01:59 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Real leaders are confident
  211. [8:04:17 AM] InhWindfist: brb
  212. [8:04:47 AM] Josuke Higashikata: But still, can't producers be able to do something else besides just only lead the team?
  213. [8:08:28 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Okay
  214. [8:10:18 AM] InhWindfist: they can but its mostly minimal.
  215. [8:14:37 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Then maybe if you could work around Kimgie, and if everyone gets rejected because there was no leader with them, perhaps they can see something
  216. [8:16:59 AM] InhWindfist: maybe, but at this point i don't think kimgie wants anything to do with me
  217. [8:20:42 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Well hey, I'm not in charge of your fan game nor am I in the team. I don't have much control of that situation. That's why I think you could do it. Or else the team will may make a fake producer.
  218. [8:21:13 AM] InhWindfist: i have given myself bad publicity so why just keep this thing going?
  219. [8:22:25 AM] Josuke Higashikata: 'Cause if you don't make up for your failure either you're still going to have a bad time
  220. [8:25:36 AM] InhWindfist: yeah...
  221. [8:26:18 AM] Josuke Higashikata: All you're doing is slimming down some hope for you from others. Don't end up like how I was before PAN and during PAN
  222. [8:28:02 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Because then you would really want to keep isolating yourself away from everyone after losing any hope on relying on them for only a limited subject you could bring up to them and they end up showing their true tolerance and patience.
  223. [8:28:23 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Unless if you had founded any purpose to come back
  224. [8:28:34 AM] Josuke Higashikata: But just don't end up following my path
  225. [8:30:55 AM] Josuke Higashikata: You'll just be another me, worse as I could be...Deemed as a potential scapegoat until everyone gets over it. In the end, it could be my opinion, even though I still usually do more things on my own than letting anyone do stuff for me.
  226. [8:31:59 AM] Josuke Higashikata: If you had seen the chat being more active without me being active, you'd see where I'm coming from with this opinion in mind
  227. [8:32:27 AM] InhWindfist: yeah i have seen it a few times
  228. [8:34:23 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Well, only as a hint of that
  229. [8:35:22 AM] Josuke Higashikata: ...But it's your choice, and there's still a chance. Either you end up like me, or try to make up for this
  230. [8:37:20 AM] InhWindfist: and how do i make up for it?
  231. [8:42:43 AM] Josuke Higashikata: I...Just told you. You could try to could work around Kimgie.
  232. [8:43:18 AM] Josuke Higashikata: And then it'll be you both to make up for reactions towards each other
  233. [8:56:26 AM] Josuke Higashikata: And it won't be easy as you'd expect
  234. [9:18:29 AM] InhWindfist: i know that
  235. [11:41:35 AM] Kimgie: Inh. The project's not being cancelled.
  236. [11:41:42 AM] Kimgie: I became the new leader.
  237. [11:42:30 AM] Kimgie: And the only reason I didn't do what you said was because you treated me like shit.
  238. [11:43:06 AM] Josuke Higashikata: ...You did not read the whole discussion?
  239. [11:43:30 AM] Kimgie: InhWindfist - Today 4:15 AM
  240. > and with the whole leaks of Freedom Planet 2, im just gonna go and give my last goodbye
  241. [11:43:34 AM] Josuke Higashikata: I mean
  242. [11:43:39 AM] Kimgie: What's this?
  243. [11:43:41 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Between what me and Inh was discussing
  244. [11:44:01 AM] Kimgie: Is he threatening to leak FP2?
  245. [11:44:10 AM] Josuke Higashikata: ..
  246. [11:44:25 AM] Josuke Higashikata: You clearly did not read what me and Inh was talking about
  247. [11:44:33 AM] Kimgie: I skimmed.
  248. [11:45:12 AM] Kimgie: Wait nevermind
  249. [11:45:29 AM] Kimgie: I figured out what he meant
  250. [11:45:47 AM] Josuke Higashikata: That's not what we discussed about
  251. [11:46:00 AM] Josuke Higashikata: I suggested him to make up for himself
  252. [11:46:21 AM] Kimgie: No, it's too late for that.
  253. [11:46:35 AM] Kimgie: We already abandoned PF.
  254. [11:46:46 AM] Kimgie: And turned it into Project Cyclone.
  255. [11:47:19 AM] Josuke Higashikata: So Inh is going to end up like how I was before PAN and during PAN...
  256. [11:47:46 AM] Kimgie: I'm sorry, but I do not want a rerun of last night.
  257. [11:48:02 AM] InhWindfist: Project:Cyclone?
  258. [11:48:13 AM] Josuke Higashikata: I encouraged him to find a way to work out the problem, not make it worse.
  259. [11:48:21 AM] Kimgie: Yep, we transfered it, I think.
  260. [11:48:32 AM] InhWindfist: ehhh...
  261. [11:48:38 AM] Kimgie: It's too late for that.
  262. [11:48:47 AM] InhWindfist: Kimgie, you can't
  263. [11:48:56 AM] InhWindfist: the idea was originally mine
  264. [11:49:06 AM] Kimgie: Yet you abandoned it.
  265. [11:49:15 AM] InhWindfist: uhuh...still mine.
  266. [11:49:30 AM] Kimgie: And what are you gonna do about it?
  267. [11:49:33 AM] Kimgie: Sue me?
  268. [11:49:38 AM] InhWindfist: sure.
  269. [11:49:40 AM] InhWindfist: good idea
  270. [11:49:47 AM] Kimgie: Story was not your idea.
  271. [11:49:55 AM] InhWindfist: Gocker's.
  272. [11:50:14 AM] Kimgie: Then we'll switch stories if he get their.
  273. [11:50:16 AM] Josuke Higashikata: It's not that it is not inevitable that leaders can overreact like that occasionally. Like I said to Inh before, there IS no one left to soothe a leader to make them quickly get back on their feet. Plus, I have nothing personally against you Kimgie. I wanted this drama to stop
  274. [11:50:21 AM] InhWindfist: You didn't do anything Kimgie.
  275. [11:50:31 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Inh
  276. [11:50:35 AM] Kimgie: Hypocrite.
  277. [11:50:38 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Chill
  278. [11:50:47 AM] Kimgie: You sat around and did jack shit.
  279. [11:51:11 AM] Kimgie: You were a boss, I'm a leader.
  280. [11:51:12 AM] InhWindfist: oh really trying to deal with 9 crazy people which include you is doing nothing?
  281. [11:51:26 AM] Kimgie: Yeah, look how that went down.
  282. [11:51:49 AM] InhWindfist: i call that bullshit, you sabotaged it
  283. [11:52:06 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Okay, first of all, what do you mean "transferring" the idea?
  284. [11:52:11 AM] Kimgie: You contributed nothing to the game
  285. [11:52:15 AM] InhWindfist: copying and pasting
  286. [11:52:35 AM] InhWindfist: Kimgie
  287. [11:52:35 AM] Kimgie: We switched groups in fear of the old one being destroyed
  288. [11:52:40 AM] InhWindfist: you did jackshit too.
  289. [11:52:56 AM] InhWindfist: how many songs did you compose
  290. [11:53:01 AM] Kimgie: Is my music jackshit?
  291. [11:53:04 AM] Kimgie: 3
  292. [11:53:11 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Why did you fear that the old one would be destroyed?
  293. [11:53:12 AM] Kimgie: OST take time
  294. [11:53:20 AM] Josuke Higashikata: I predict it is because of my presence there?
  295. [11:53:26 AM] InhWindfist: those were personal works kimgie
  296. [11:53:30 AM] InhWindfist: they don't include
  297. [11:53:30 AM] Kimgie: Gocker gained admin
  298. [11:53:55 AM] InhWindfist: did you write something as you wanted to be a writer?
  299. [11:54:00 AM] Josuke Higashikata: That's why you switched groups? Because of Gocker?
  300. [11:54:10 AM] InhWindfist: you begged me to be a writer, to not write anything
  301. [11:54:17 AM] Kimgie: Actually, I would have if you gave me a chance
  302. [11:54:35 AM] Kimgie: The writer chat was silent for the most part
  303. [11:54:48 AM] InhWindfist: and how many times were you an asshole to gocker and the others?
  304. [11:55:05 AM] Kimgie: Only because she couldn't take jokes
  305. [11:55:19 AM] InhWindfist: If she can't take jokes then don't do them
  306. [11:55:20 AM] Kimgie: And people followed me to the new group
  307. [11:55:26 AM] Kimgie: They trust me
  308. [11:55:42 AM] InhWindfist: what Luke and who else?
  309. [11:55:46 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Or just teach her how to take a joke...
  310. [11:55:51 AM] Kimgie: Ash, bing, etc
  311. [11:56:08 AM] InhWindfist: Only Ashema and Bingo
  312. [11:56:13 AM | Edited 11:56:25 AM] InhWindfist: aka your boyfriends.
  313. [11:56:28 AM] Kimgie: They were the only ones in my contacts
  314. [11:56:33 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Okay, so I guess Gocker is left out of your team
  315. [11:56:39 AM] Kimgie: At least I have a team
  316. [11:56:42 AM] Kimgie: That trusts me
  317. [11:56:49 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Yeah but
  318. [11:57:10 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Don't you think when someone wants to learn from their mistakes, they wouldn't WANT to repeat the same thing again?
  319. [11:57:14 AM] InhWindfist: Weegee can do more shit with a broken laptop that you can Kimgie
  320. [11:57:32 AM] Kimgie: Inh, I'm not having this conversation
  321. [11:57:38 AM] InhWindfist: you wanted it
  322. [11:58:03 AM] Kimgie: All I wanted was for you to respect me as an asset
  323. [11:58:12 AM] Kimgie: You blew it
  324. [11:58:19 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Inh
  325. [11:58:19 AM] InhWindfist: then why didn't you tell me before doing shit
  326. [11:58:23 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Listen
  327. [11:58:43 AM] InhWindfist: you could of said "Hey Inh can you please respect me as an asset?"
  328. [11:58:55 AM] InhWindfist: and nothing of this would've of happened
  329. [11:59:09 AM] Josuke Higashikata: Kimgie or anyone wouldn't really have to say that for you to acknowledge that, Inh.
  330. [11:59:22 AM] Josuke Higashikata: All you gotta do is read people and then you could see it.
  331. [11:59:32 AM] Josuke Higashikata: And Kimgie, uhhh
  332. [11:59:33 AM] InhWindfist: Kimgie was cryptic
  333. [11:59:45 AM] InhWindfist: as in he doesn't talk and when he talks he is an asshole
  334. [12:00:25 PM] Kimgie: Inh, I'm not talking to you about this
  335. [12:00:34 PM] InhWindfist: yes you are.
  336. [12:00:37 PM] Josuke Higashikata: Well he hasn't been an ass the whole time in this conversation except when you provoke him to. Which makes him sarcastic at times
  337. [12:00:44 PM] Josuke Higashikata: Directed to inh
  338. [12:01:22 PM] InhWindfist: its too late for me to do anything
  339. [12:01:32 PM] Josuke Higashikata: ...
  340. [12:02:05 PM] InhWindfist: im just gonna leave and join another fanbase or something
  341. [12:03:06 PM] Josuke Higashikata: ...You really are going to end up like how I did
  342. [12:04:17 PM] InhWindfist: unless kimgie gets a little nicer to me im not going to do shit.
  343. [12:06:04 PM] Josuke Higashikata: ...Okay then, if you're not gonna prove Kimgie a reason for himself to trust you, then you're better off not really working with a group of people about your project if they would plagarize it when you screw things up for them, leave and be replaced by a new producer.
  344. [12:06:34 PM] InhWindfist: to trust me on what?
  345. [12:06:42 PM] Josuke Higashikata: On being back to the team
  346. [12:06:52 PM] InhWindfist: sure
  347. [12:08:39 PM] InhWindfist: He can be a part of the team, and i will threat him more nicely
  348. [12:10:06 PM] Josuke Higashikata: ...Alright then. But if you dare to try and follow my path again, I will be at my limit with this.
  349. [12:10:20 PM] InhWindfist: okay
  350. [12:11:58 PM] InhWindfist: BUT, i want him to stop this new project of his. And be more forgiving as im learning how to be a leader
  351. [12:13:04 PM] Josuke Higashikata: ...You simply told me that you were being a leader before
  352. [12:13:48 PM] InhWindfist: no human is perfect?
  353. [12:13:58 PM] InhWindfist: im still learning things?
  354. [12:14:09 PM] Josuke Higashikata: I don't mean that kind of subject about perfection
  355. [12:14:28 PM] Josuke Higashikata: I mean, I thought you knew how to be a leader even though I told you about it
  356. [12:16:32 PM] InhWindfist: what?
  357. [12:17:43 PM] Josuke Higashikata: Look, if you did not knew being a leader is about encouraging others in the right direction, being very open minded, not forcing others to follow decisions, not meaning the same thing as bossing around either, etc.
  358. [12:17:52 PM] Josuke Higashikata: Then I'm starting to see why Kimgie left you
  359. [12:19:02 PM] InhWindfist: yes i know that.
  360. [12:19:25 PM] Josuke Higashikata: Then why saying, learning how to be a leader?
  361. [12:19:36 PM] Josuke Higashikata: How much experience did you have at being a leader?
  362. [12:19:58 PM] InhWindfist: a few.
  363. [12:20:29 PM] Josuke Higashikata: ... And did it turn out well from natural ability?
  364. [12:22:26 PM] InhWindfist: yes.
  365. [12:23:55 PM] Josuke Higashikata: So if you wished that you could've followed all of those instructions of being a leader if you knew, then...
  366. [12:25:44 PM] Josuke Higashikata: I am sorry to say, but your lack of self-awareness is blocking your way of being a leader
  367. [12:26:18 PM] Josuke Higashikata: When it comes to preventing something like bossing around.
  368. [12:27:03 PM] Josuke Higashikata: Now now, at least I've been told that you do not have to be entirely self aware...
  369. [12:27:39 PM] Josuke Higashikata: Your maturity is kind of blocking your way from being that kind of leader.
  370. [12:28:23 PM] Josuke Higashikata: And that is also why I never afforded myself as a leader either
  371. [12:28:26 PM] InhWindfist: well ashema did say that i was basicly the half of a leader
  372. [12:29:02 PM] InhWindfist: and i need the other half
  373. [12:29:21 PM] Josuke Higashikata: Then you are not a leader
  374. [12:30:49 PM] InhWindfist: he said gocker was the other half though
  375. [12:31:12 PM] Josuke Higashikata: ...Did you really use someone as your other HALF for your leadership part?
  376. [12:31:23 PM] InhWindfist: no.
  377. [12:31:31 PM] InhWindfist: gocker tried to help me
  378. [12:31:50 PM] InhWindfist: being that part
  379. [12:33:14 PM] Josuke Higashikata: ... You should've learned how to be a leader before you became a producer
  380. [12:33:38 PM] InhWindfist: so basically i should of never had the idea to make a fangame?
  381. [12:33:47 PM] Josuke Higashikata: No
  382. [12:34:11 PM] Josuke Higashikata: I'm saying that you should've had been more mature, learned more about how to be a leader beforehand and have more experience with it
  383. [12:34:51 PM] InhWindfist: [12:33 PM] InhWindfist:
  384.  
  385. <<< so basically i should of never had the idea to make a fangame?unless i had a previous experience or atleast an ability?
  386. [12:35:07 PM] Josuke Higashikata: You're gonna wait until I charge my phone batteries
  387. [12:35:13 PM] Josuke Higashikata: So we can discuss this more
  388. [12:35:25 PM] InhWindfist: i really want this to end
  389. [12:35:39 PM] InhWindfist: i feel like vomit
  390. [12:35:47 PM] InhWindfist: like dragon vomit
  391. [12:44:49 PM] InhWindfist: welp, cancelled the game
  392. [12:44:52 PM] InhWindfist: good bye
  393. [12:44:58 PM] *** InhWindfist has left ***
  394. [12:45:46 PM] Zwataketa, The Aspy Gamer: ...
  395. [12:46:13 PM] Josuke Higashikata: Do not get involved with him right now. It's nearly too late to do anything about him
  396. [12:46:46 PM] Josuke Higashikata: You should just get over it and move on
  397. [12:47:51 PM] Zwataketa, The Aspy Gamer: I don't even know what's going on here. I haven't been paying too much attention to the conversation. I know it's about some fangame, but .
  398. [12:48:37 PM] Josuke Higashikata: Don't worry about it.
  399. [12:59:56 PM] Kimgie: The game's not being cancelled
  400. [1:00:04 PM] Kimgie: We started a new group
  401. [1:36:37 PM] Zwataketa, The Aspy Gamer: ah okay
  402. [1:36:43 PM] Zwataketa, The Aspy Gamer: Project Freedom, right?
  403. [1:53:39 PM] Pokefan Gaming: Yeah
  404. [1:55:41 PM] Pokefan Gaming: Inh has become so salty, he makes even the strongest of salts seem unappreciated.
  405. [1:56:48 PM] Kimgie: Trust me, I want to have good connections with GT.
  406. [2:05:44 PM] Pokefan Gaming: So do I
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