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it is ๐ง๐จ๐ญ shirk to seek help from creatures under the following conditions:

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  1. The Salafi position is that it is ๐ง๐จ๐ญ shirk to seek help from creatures under the following conditions:
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  3. 1) The one being called upon must be ๐ฉ๐ก๐ฒ๐ฌ๐ข๐œ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ž๐ง๐ญ.
  4. 2) They must be ๐œ๐š๐ฉ๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž of fulfilling the request.
  5. 3) When it comes to ๐ฎ๐ง๐ฌ๐ž๐ž๐ง ๐›๐ž๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ฌ like angels, we cannot just assume their presenceโ€”there must be specific ๐ž๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ž๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ฅ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง affirming their presence in that particular situation in a way that makes them capable of responding.
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  7. ๐ˆ๐ง ๐ˆ๐ฆ๐š๐ฆ ๐€๐ก๐ฆ๐š๐โ€™๐ฌ ๐œ๐š๐ฌ๐ž:
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  9. 1) He acted based on a ๐ก๐š๐๐ข๐ญ๐ก he believed to be authentic.
  10. 2) The hadith indicated that the angels were both ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ž๐ง๐ญ and ๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž to assist in such situations.
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  12. Since the criteria of ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ž๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐š๐ง๐ ๐œ๐š๐ฉ๐š๐›๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ were known and met ๐ญ๐ก๐ซ๐จ๐ฎ๐ ๐ก ๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ก๐ž ๐›๐ž๐ฅ๐ข๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐›๐ž ๐š๐ฎ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ข๐œ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ฅ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, this does not meet the Salafi definition of shirk.
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  14. Forget whether this position is right or wrong for a second, because you need to first accurately represent it for any meaningful critique to be possible.
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  16. Hopefully, this makes it clear for those sincerely seeking to understand.
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